>>try to keep the hate to a minimum
>>talk about rides, miles, stats ect.
>>anything about fixed gear/track bikes
>>keep the super gay fixed gears with bright unorganized color schemes and shitty wheelsets out of the thread please
tandem track bike
>>929659
autist detected.
>>929651
They should both be encased in the same suit for more aero.
>>929650
I'm glad to see someone made the thread. My wheelies might be not move freelies but my feelies feel for realies.
Haven't been riding very much this week because I've been really busy with work and purchasing a murder cage. But with the weekend comming up I plan to go on a couple long rides in the beautiful 92 degree heat.
>>929650
Real track bike > 'fixie'
>>929650
>posts a steel is reel celeste bianchi
who /toeoverlap/ here
howdy y'all
What ratios do you guys run?
48-16
Pretty generic. But decent fun for mashing around and blowing out knees.
I've heard that 48-19 is a pretty alright.
Should I just give it a shot?
I've been needing a new chain anyway.
>>929772
>Sugino
awww yiss.
>>929772
>buying a 48T zen
Looks nice
>>929650
>try to keep the hate to a minimum
>keep the super gay fixed gears with bright unorganized color schemes and shitty wheelsets out of the thread please
oh hey
>>929838
what part of
>>keep the super gay fixed gears out of the thread please
don't you understand?
>>929772
Anyone planning to go to the fixed gear classic since they're bringing it back this year??
Also hi
>>929841
Didn't mean to quote that guy.
>>929838
You have the gayest fucking bike on /n/ an you still post it in every thread.
>>929799
dude try 48 - 19 or even 46 - 19.
swollow that weird fixie pride.
it's way more fun and due to the faster acceleration more suited to the city you'll be overall faster.
>>929865
I primarily do city riding/ commuting so 48-19 seems like it might be worth a shot. On the weekends when I'm not slaving away I like to go exploring or just ride way out into the desert. How does that ratio fair with climbing and general longer rides?
>>929872
In the city it's flat af familia. My commute to school has about 75 feet of elevation at its hardest but for city. I'd also like to improve my cadence so I feel this would be a good fit.
BTW I love your bike fampai
You're up there with my Bacon as one of my favorite posters
>>929862
i like that bike you fucking dunce
>>929838
w2c front rack?
>>929989
cetma
Where can I buy some cool single speed frames in europe
>>929970
I gurantteeyou, switching to 48-19 is an epiphany.
spin to win and all that.
it's just much mor fun.
for everything offroad lower is better.
many people go almost 1:1 for the ss mtbs
>>929992
get a dolan pre cursa.
worth every penny, it's a beast for that price.
to be honest I'd go pre cursa or steel roadie conversion.
all the inbetweens are weird as they are way more pricy than a good road conversion but don't offer much more.
>>929650
do ss count?
>>930021
Yes, and they can count to over 11 million.
>>929838
nice brake I know fixed gear is hard for you sometimes
>>929838
I-Is.. Is that a rubber band on the brake handle? Learn 2 reach adjust. For crying out loud...
>>930052
Looks like a hair tie but yeah. Probably just for the picture.
>>929970
Thanks senpai. Although Bacon is on a whole other level.
Definitely pick up a 17t and 19t cog, and slap the 19 on first. It'll be super fun, guaranteed. You won't get that top end speed right away, but spinning is nicer than mashing and skidding is stupid easy.
>>929989
Cetma 5 rail.
>>930045
>ragging on someone for not going brakeless
I guess you're in the CANTSTOPWONTSTOP clan
>>930052
It's there as a parking brake
>>930045
I've been thinking about getting some DZR's for my birthday.
I do more biking than walking nowadays and I've been craving a clipless setup.
I'm open to any ideas so if you think I should get the shoes or a different set up I'm free to discussions.
Can you guys point me toward a bike fitting guide (80-90 style road bikes) I got a 58cm and I think it's too big. Preferably with pictures
What's a good pre-built entry level fixie for casual commuting to uni? I'm looking at the fuji feather
>>930160
If you're just commuting to uni, buying secondhand is really something to look into.
The feather looks nice enough if you insist on buying new.
Also, I'll probably get a lot of shit for this, but the Windsor steel fixie frames actually aren't bad. If you picked up one of those, you could invest the money you saved into a better wheelset. It won't be nearly as stylish (which I guess is half the point of a fixie these days), but I'm pretty sure those Windsor frames are based off (and some say they're made in the same factory) as Fuji frames.
If that's true, it comes down to the Fuji looking better and the Windsor leaving enough funds to sink into a nice wheelset. If you've got the cash though, I'd still go for the Fuji and just replace the wheels if you ever feel like it.
>>930016
thanks, the dolan looks p good for the money
>>930160
>looking at the fuji feather
Quill stem detected! Abort! Abort!
Also look up the Kona Paddy Wagon. They seem to have made it flatbar for 2016 out of sheer retardedness, but you should be able to get a good deal on any 2015 bikes out there.
>>930192
well their paintjobs are nice.
but to be honest they're really nothing special.
probably just the same one of those windsors, and for that the price is quite steep.
I'd still go roadconversion and put the saved money in a nicer wheelset.
or if you insist on getting a fixie specfic frame , go for something tha's atleast cheap like the windsor or good like the dolan
>>930194
I suppose converting something would be the most economical way of doing things. I've just never done anything particularly mechanic-ish before, but I suppose I could learn. Anyone have any good resources on the bikes I should look for and what parts I'll need?
>>930195
You just need a singlespeed crank/chainring set, and a fixed gear wheelset.
Sheldon Brown's website has a ton of information on fixed gear conversion, and everything else bicycle relating.
>>930195
Don't go road conversion. A fixie without track ends will be a pain in the ass. And without a way to take up slack as the chain wears it could even get dangerous if you get chainslip.
You'll also have to respace the frame to take track hubs.
All in all it's just a lot of work for what is at best going to be a hack job.
Just pony up the money for what it actually costs and stop trying to make short cuts. It doesn't work out in your favour in the end.
>>930199
I've had this conversion for a couple of years now and I've yet to have anything break or slip up. It cost less than $150 to build too. I say he should build a beater conversion if it's a cheaper option than a hi ten Steel fixie
Opinions? Wheels are not going to stay, I just borrowed them from my other bike to get a picture. Also the chainring is not going to stay.
I'm probably going to buy a carbon track wheelset somewhere at some point, there is no hurry since the velodrome near me is an outdoor one and there is still going to be snow for a few months or so.
>>930199
I'm not confident putting a bike together myself yet and this makes me feel less confident. Would a fuji track classic be a better option? It's considerably cheaper than a State bike, doesn't appear to have a quill stem and I know I can buy one (unlike the kona or windsor which I think I'd need to import)
>>930209
True, that's exactly what made this bike a good conversion candidate. there's an abundance of good quality Steel frames from the 70s and 80s here where I live. With some luck he could even find a converted bike at a good price and with some minor mods make it his own.
>>929992
Get Dolan or Goldsprint Ronin (pic)
http://www.goldsprintshop.com/Goldsprint-Ronin-Track-Frameset
>>930086
I've ridden about 1500 km with my DZR Minna shoes. Otherwise good, but the shelaces need to be replaced with stronger ones.
>>930199
>Don't go road conversion. A fixie without track ends will be a pain in the ass. And without a way to take up slack as the chain wears it could even get dangerous if you get chainslip.
You'll also have to respace the frame to take track hubs
Nope. By road bike conversion it is usually implyed that the bike being converted is an old steel road bike. The dropouts on those things are like in the pic, so you can tighten the chain as it wears. Also the spacing thing, old road bikes' rear forks are 126 mm whereas track hubs are 120 mm. Steel frame can take the 3 mm bending from each side no problem, not dangerous at all. And if that still scares you, just add one extra washer to both sides of the hub and the problem is gone.
I know because I rode a converted road fixie couple of years until I bought a Dolan. Nothing wrong with the conversion bike, but upgraded for fun.
>tfw can't ride for more than half an hour at a time because of an injury
I just want to feel the breeze again
>>930197
you could even use the crank that comes with bike if it's decent
>>930239
Not as simple as that. Chainline aside, track chains don't have same spacing as geared chains. Not only are they wider, the links are longer.
>>930235
what frameset?
>>930244
Fuji Declaration
>>930209
dude that's just not right.
a classical road conversion fixie uses a frame with horizontal dropout that work just as well as track drop outs.
if you do some ebaying you can get a tripple butted cromo frame for 50 - 70 € with fork instead of a hi ten gaspipe ride.
If you never done anything mechanicaly with a bike it is a challange.
but also a fun project.
if you have no tools at all you would need access to a open workshop or something in order to get away withou buying all the tools.
concerning the the spacing, that's a absolut non argument when going singlespeed , you wouldn't even need a new wheelset then.
but there are clean solutions for a non 120mm fixie,like cold setting , spacers, front disc hubs or even specially spaced track hubs.
>>930218
for 200€ it's actually a good deal.
>>930243
you might have a point.
I used to run road chain rings.
but I also did lots of stupid things...
>>930251
Of course it can be made to sort of work. With high chain tension and high wear... It would work better the more worn the chainring is, so a 30yo craigslist find would be less bad than a ew chainset.
The effect is the same as running an incredibly worn chain on a new chainring.
I stand by the opinion that it's silly to save a few quids on running hacked together, near end of life old crap instead of buying the right gear. Built for the purpouse.
Bikes are cheap enough that you don't have to abuse yourself.
>>930203
I always liked that frame, keep the wheels if you need to ride it on the street though
somehow I haven't taken a pic since I got a new, significantly less ridiculous stem and freewheel/chain last october
2014 feather (44/16) with mostly stock parts except for the SRAM brakes/levers. stock wheelset is shit, I fell on myself commuting a month ago and the front is microscopically out of true so that might be the last straw mentally.
any recommendations for a decent budget wheelset? my heart's desire is to get a custom wheelbuild but that would cost probably 2-3x more. new pedals/toe clips (or straps) are also on my long-term list.
bonus front end of dad's speshul cirrus
>>930299
build some yourself, it isn't as hard as you might think and actually fun.
and a very valuable skill
>>930299
>>930334
This!
Get a _good_ spoke key, don't be put of if you buy the wrong spokes initially, keep calm and Sheldon Brown, and you'll be fine.
Ambrosio or H+Son box rims with Miche hubs and 3x lacing would look awesome on that. Not budget by any means (2-300€ total or so), but building yourself keeps it reasonabe.
>>930299
You could save yourself some money by relacing the stock hubs to new rims with new spokes.
>>930337
>>930334
>I built a house for $10, with a little bit of help but basically I did it all myself. My dad bought the plot of land, my uncle did the woodwork and the foundations were dug by a family that my sister knows. All I had to do was spend $10 on a piece of leather from Amazon!
>>930299
do not listen to the guys replying to you, DIY wheelbuilding is NOT a money saver
>>930342
Compared to what? Compared to letting someone else build you a set it is (about 30-40€ per wheel), compared to buying machine-built wheels it is not.
You sound like someone with lots of worked up ideas about how impossible it is to build a pair of wheels, yet has no practical experience.
>mfw I built all wheelsets currently in use myself
Your greentext is also completely irrelevant and utterly retarded. Why would building a pair of wheels involve freeloading off others?
>>930350
>40€ per wheel savings
here we go with the DIY bizarro math
how are you factoring the cost of tools?
answer: you're not. therefore you're either freeloading, or your math needs adjustment.
>>930350
>>930352
I've been to a wheelbuilding hands-on thing and laced a wheel myself, so I agree that it's not rocket science. not really hyped for buying a tension meter, stand (inb4 DIY), etc.
>>930341
I would probably want to go all the way with new parts given that this wheelset might be around forever.
but are state wheelsets any good?
http://www.statebicycle.com/collections/wheels/products/white-wheel-set
an LBS is fixie/singlespeed oriented so I'll probably consult them too. last time around they were trying to sell me a white industries freewheel instead of the shimano one, the only way I begged myself out of it was that they don't make a 16T 1/8" variety. not debating the relative quality here, but I have a feeling they would try to get me to spend a fortune on bulletproof stuff when I'm looking more at budget offerings.
>>930352
Are you retarded or something? The only tool you need is a spoke key, which if you own a multitool like the cb m17 or similar, you already have, or it's a mindboggling 7€ expense.
You use a ruler and rubber bands to dish and center in the frame, and a spoke to seat the nipple.
30-40€ comes from the fact that this is what Rose charges to build you a wheel from parts in your shopping cart. Your local bike mechanic will likely charge you more since they'll have to lace by hand and don't have a wheel assembly line. Or less, because they're wizards or you offer blow jobs.
The fact that you think there is some massive investment in tools needed to build a wheel proves you have no clue what you're talking about.
>>930362
You can compare tone pitch to another wheel to get ballpark tension, and you don't need a truing stand. I ended up buying a ParkTools tensionmeter, but unless you're buildning with realy finicky rims, tone height is good enough.
>>930352
dude what the fuck.
you haven't built a wheel, have you ?
I currently run a budget set on my fixie that I built with a very makeshift jig and it's more than fine.
tool costs were like 10 €
I wouldn't sell those, but they hold up fine.
and whats up with that attitude.
I'd much rather go out and fail gloriously on a new task and reconsider than just make up excuses for not trying it.
as with every thing bike related , just give it a try, see if you like it.
>>930352
Ah, yes. The dreaded tools. This is a high class spoke wrench. It's 4.31€.
You've never built a wheel in your life, bub. But keep up the internet tough guy facade.
It's only used as a tarck bike for now
I made a mistake by putting 700x25 tires on it because the chainstays are so narrow that the tire only barely clears
>>930367
>>930365
>>930364
>>930363
>lol u dum, u can build a wheel with rubber bands and a screwdriver
>well actually I'm such an expert that I ended up buying a $500 truing stand and a $500 spoke tension meter but ur an idiot if u think this is necessary, I just realized that after destroying $2000 worth of parts it was worth it to me, but nobody else needs this stuff lol it's overkill except for the part where it wasn't for me
of course these types will rarely admit to the true cost of their "money saving" fantasies
>>930364
>>930363
>>930371
Generally right, but keep in mind that it also depends on the wheels you're building. I can put together a wheelset for one of my own road bikes (150# rider) with no tension measurement beyond squeezing pairs of spokes by hand, and produce a wheel that stays true forever. But for more demanding wheelbuilds (say, a cx wheelset for a rider who weighs 250+ lbs.), then a tensiometer becomes invaluable for making a wheel that is equally balanced and sufficiently tensioned.
And judging tension by plucking the spokes and listening to pitch is fine if you have the talent for it, but at best it's only a comparative test: it can tell you which spokes have more/less tension, but by itself can't tell you accurately whether how much tension is on a given spoke or across the entire wheel.
>>930219
that's no problem, I'll most likely be getting a pair
>>930109
how tall are you?
>>930203
sweet looking ride anon. I think the carbon track wheelset would top this beauty off nicely. What's your pedal set-up?
>>930235
hope you heal fast anon. Was it a cycling injury?
>>930369
nice bike man. What bottom bracket do you have anon?
>>930372
Judging spoke tension by sound doesn't work for many reasons.
Honestly a calibrated tension meter is an invaluable tool along with the most comfortable spoke wrench for your hand.
Everyone is arguing as if they know how to build a wheel better than anyone else on here. You're all doing it incorrectly and it's the way of most mechanics to be stubborn about learning a better way.
>>930402
>Judging spoke tension by sound doesn't work for many reasons.
u wut m8
>Honestly a calibrated tension meter is an invaluable tool along with the most comfortable spoke wrench for your hand.
It's only needed for high tension low spoke wheels, although a high tension high spoke count wheel never hurt anyone.
>Everyone is arguing as if they know how to build a wheel better than anyone else on here. You're all doing it incorrectly and it's the way of most mechanics to be stubborn about learning a better way.
That's because you're full of shit. Also unless the shop you take it specializes in building wheels, they will usually do a shit job, and many of the shops don't even use a tension meter.
LBS shills are mad because wheelbuilding and truing are supposed to be the sacred cows of working on bikes, a home mechanic might be able to do everything else, but not those two things. The problem is not that it is easy, but shops are doing increasingly shitty jobs of truing and wheelbuilding. Lots of shops don't even build wheels anymore because factory wheels are commonplace. The wheelbuilders at some shops are inexperienced because they don't build many wheels. Mechanics doing spot truing don't bother tensioning spokes properly because they like to just blame it on low spoke count machine build wheels.
Also, the cost savings of building your own wheels if sourcing your own spokes and rims and hubs, instead of paying the retail prices of the shop that will refuse to build from parts you bring in yourself.
>>930392
Thank you! It wasn't cycling related, some guy assaulted me. Ended up with a broken spine, but I'm getting better now
>>930403
>>Judging spoke tension by sound doesn't work for many reasons.
>u wut m8
Reasons that the sound a spoke makes is affected by length, the gauge and if the spoke is butted.
I'm not arguing you should/shouldn't take your wheels to a shop, I'm saying custom wheels should be left to the individuals who know what they are doing.
A quick true can be left to the shop if you don't have the tools.
Some shops don't know how to build wheels and don't act like they can. They send their wheels into builders like me or the wheelhouse at Q.
It is time consuming and not profitable if you're not proficient. I'm all for shops doing a shitty job they should outsource honestly. More money for the professionals. Building your own wheels can be fun, however you're always guessing tensions no matter what you're argument may be. Tension is extremely important as any good wheel builder will acknowledge.
I'm also all for the machine built wheels when you have a wheel house that and good standards such as the wheelhouse in Q .45 mm radial and lateral run out, with a tension between 1000-1250nm on their D class wheels (which is the lowest class). When you're sending out a min of 250 wheels a day at these standards you honestly can't be against a mass production. I can't speak on behalf of the other "factories".
>>930419
>Reasons that the sound a spoke makes is affected by length, the gauge and if the spoke is butted.
>using different length spokes on the front wheel
>not doing nds/ds sound separately because of dishing
Seriously u wut. You are a literal retard, huh?
>Building your own wheels can be fun, however you're always guessing tensions no matter what you're argument may be. Tension is extremely important as any good wheel builder will acknowledge.
Or you can spend $5 to use the tension meter a the co-op
>>930218
>47cm
>61cm
Jesus are they just out of stock or are they only catering to the smallest of manlets and cyloskelingtons?
>>930421
No I'm sick in bed rambling about something I'm passionate about. The spoke sound is something we talk about often at work.
Again I said a calibrated tension meter is key, that'd be rad if co-ops had tension meters and a way to calibrate otherwise you know tension is only even.
>>930395
it is just the regular SRAM GXP bb that comes with Omnium cranks
>>930424
Co-ops have the exact same options for calibrating tension meters pros do. Buying a new one or sending it back for calibration.
> The spoke sound is something we talk about often at work.
You're a retard and don't know what plucking spokes is for. It's for checking evenness, not the amount of tension.
>>930371
>Sheldon doesn't know how to wheel but I do
Look who's buttflustered
>>929992
I have an on one pompino, which you can order from the UK or Germany, I love it although the paint is kinda weak.
>>930371
I'm starting to think you're trolling.
>>930423
I think they are trying to sell the old frames fast to make room for new ones or something like that.
>>930402
actually the thread seems to be divide between several people that say for private purposes there is a lot of leeway in wheelbuilding,
while others seem to say that there is just one way a wheel can be built and if it not the best of tools are used it will go up in flames.
...then there's that guy that says going to a self help workshop or asking you're lbs if you can use theyre jig is a crime against humanity
>>930371
Now you're surely trolling, and the outlandish claims about tensiometer and stand costs prove you're clueless. You're an order of magnitude off.
And by the way, I bought both because it makes building faster and more convenient. That you believe the wheels will explode in your face if you don't own a tensiometer and stand is comical.
SS and fixed wheels are dead easy. Minimal or no dish, standard spoke count and often high flange hubs with sturdy rims. Those can be built by feel and ear without a problem. 90-120kg is just fine, and getting in that range is like hitting a barn from the inside.
The only time you really need to know absolute tension is on the back wheel of a highly dished build with frail rims (low upper tension limit) where non-drive side is dangerously low.
For those of a paranoid disposition there are free iPhone and Android apps that measure tone height of a plucked string and gives you a tension estimate based on length and butting. Not as accurate as a 350€ DT tensiometer, but more than enough for hobby use.
>>930589
yeahs thats gone be a no since i know a few guys already on those but ty
>>930434
>Co-ops have the exact same options for calibrating tension meters pros do. Buying a new one or sending it back for calibration.
If you have a very large weight of a known mass you could hang it on a spoke measure the tension. Calibrate until it's right.
A pair of jerry-cans filled with water, handles bound with zippers, a curved piece of metal hooked under and inbetween the handles, hole drilled in it for spoke nipple, other end of spoke held with a welding clamp suspended to the roof... *mumble* *mutter*
>>930425
I'd suggest switching that out later on in the future if you want to continue using that drivetrain
>>930410
that sucks man, karma will get to him.
Here's mine. It's pretty basic but it's just what I need in a fix-d.
>>930737
Nice, I have the original curved seat tube khs track
>>930386
5 11
>>930292
In fact I'm considering building another wheelset for possible road use, but first I'll get the carbon wheelset. I'm using the wheels seen in pic on my other bike that I ride the whole year so they're in use almost daily
>>930387
Thanks! I forgot all about the pedals. I'm not completely sure about them yet but I think I'll get some clipless road ones. That means I would have to get a pair of road shoes too because I use clipless mtb pedals with my commuting bike so they wouldn't work.
>>930851
>5 units of dimension 11
????
>>931003
>doesn't even know 11
fuck off to wherever you came from instead of pretending the SI brochure troll
you don't even have a good bike other than an OTS or 90s rigid MTB memebike, fucking poorfag
>>930851
try a 54' or 55'cm
1. Flat or Riser?
2. Drop or Bullhorn?
>>931084
1. No. Might as well tatoo 'douche' on forehead.
2. Yes. To taste.
>>931086
>1. No. Might as well tatoo 'douche' on forehead.
Why the hate?
>>931099
I don't care if you don't have breaks but for the love of fucking god have drop bars on a fucking fixie
bullhorns if you're ok being gay, but drops is love drops is life
>>931104
>muh opinions
>>931105
>With a fixed gear bike you can't downshift into wind to maintain high cadence
>so yo ucan only shift position
>lets do bars with no fucking positions
Bullhorns are for faggots unless they're persuit bars and full forward
>>929838
>fabric mudguard intensifies
Geometry looks nice and slack, fat tires, fenders, no rear rack, sensibly includes a front brake, reflectors for safety, devil-may-care aesthetics... Mismatched parts are either good or bad, depending on who you are. Same goes for the stickers. Only thing it's missing is an emergency brake on the rear. Get a cheap caliper and put the lever on the top tube.
Also get a different rack already. I don't care how much you spent, that rack looks faggy set up like it is.
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I Use it for grass track in the summer but use brakes for commuting b/c I want to keep all of my teeth.
>>931154
ditch the back brake unless you really like to use it
fixed gears suck
This is coming from a former fixed gear rider
>>931173
I wanted to, but then i'd have to buy a top lever for the front. riding around with one hood would look wonky methinks.
>>931154
how difficult or time consuming is it to get those track grips on?
Any tips or tricks?
>>931185
Not op, but hairspray or alcohol, hairspray works best though
>>931154
You can throw on a dummy lever for the right side, I've been seeing more and more people do it
>>931178
cable it to a bell.
Also tape your bars all the way up, it's not a fucking track bike.
>>930737
i really liked the flite 100 until they went to a curved seat tube.The old seat tube looked so classic. Your build is pretty good looking tho.
>>931104
>>931107
you're too dumb and illiterate to keep posting. it's okay. go to sleep now.
>>931185
Those came on the bike, not too sure. They don't seem terribly difficult to work on and off though.
>>931197
>not using shimsham 10mm pitch chains
>>931192
They're track grips, bay-bee
>>931176
fixed gears don't suck. This is coming from a current fixed gear rider
>>931154
For the love of god please don't angle the brake levers outward that way. >_<
>>931197
Modern stuff yes, 70-80s Shimano stuff might not be. In the context of SS conversion of a geared road bike from this era that's something that needs to be taken into account.
>>931148
>is neutral about overall appearance of whole bike
>shits on rack
In all fairness I have a fuckhuge Wald basket I could put on it, but I doubt I will. This rack will go on another beater most likely while I end up keeping this one rack-less.
Also, duct tape mudguard, not fabric.
>tfw just ordered a dolan pre cursa
>>931424
>mfw no f
>>931424
Frameset or the whole bike? Which color?
>tfw i know nothing about bicycles
>tfw i see a fixie i never know if it's good or not
>tfw brands considered good in my country are considered shit overseas
>>931635
Leader, Aventon, BLB etc are usually bad. "Good" fixies are the track frames from, say Bianchi, Cinelli etc."actual" bike companies that have history of making bikes.
Of course for example Leader Renovatio is a good frame, but generally the brands known only for fixie bikes are the bad ones.
>>931662
keep in mind, the words good and bad in the fixie world are usually used to accurately describe street cred level which itselfe is loosely based on quality but takes things like rareness and swag among other secondary values in consideration
>>931620
Full bike with spd pedals and a >front brake in black
>>930851
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-sizing.html
most questions you have about bikes can be solved by googling "sheldon brown [subject of question]"
more important than simple stature is to measure your cycling inseam, torso length, and arm length.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/bike-fit-guide/
this link tells you how to make those measurements and how they factor into frame sizing
What do you guys think about this bike for about $335?
http://www.fujibikes.com/global/bike/details/track-comp
great
>>931960
I'm not liking the brake levers, it's so much better to have regular brake levers on the drops.
>>931967
This is pretty good bike for it's price. If I was buying a new bike, I would get this one.
http://www.wiggle.com/eastway-esaki/?curr=USD&dest=18
>>931971
why do you think so?
>>932012
Not him, but have you ever actually ridden with drop bar brake levers? If you have you know it's the best way to have brakes on a drop bar.
>>932025
not if you're doing most of your braking on the tops
>>932039
to clarify :
not if you're on the tops in most braking situations
>>931995
that's really nice.
>>931995
I already have my shitty cheap bike. My seatpost bended on itself, kek.
But it's worth the price, it was cheaper than a cheap frame. With time i'll make it good.
>>932012
Because on a regular bike you'd be on the hoods 99% of the time, and it makes sense to have your brakes immediately available to you. Anyways the bike you posted doesn't even have hoods which is going to make for a much less comfortable ride.
49/20 a good starter gearing? I live in a pretty flat city and ride pretty much every day
>/n/ spends most of it's time mocking fixie riders yet there's a whole fucking thread full of them
Get a proper bike you twats.
>>933282
I have 2 bikes with gears idiot
>>933284
no you
>>933276
Mine is 49/18 and it's light.
I would recommend something heavier.
I don't get why Fixies are so expensive. a decent trackframe is around 600 bucks, everything below is shittier like Aventon.. Then comes the part with the Wheelset, even if you get cheaper Wheels with Velocity Rims and Miche hubs you are still around 250-300 bucks for it, then the crankset. Sugino? Sram? Campagnolo? Shimano? Sugino 75 with a Chainring and bottom bracket is, depending on where you live and get it, around 400-500 bucks, Sram Omnium almost the same, Campa pista is way less but still around 300 bucks.. Then comes the parts about chain, cog, pedals, stem, headset, seatpost, saddle.. Overall you have to spend at least 1500 bucks for something where you could just get a decent Giant or Trek bike with a full Shimano 105 Groupset and some ok-tier Mavic aksium wheelset
>>933314
1. first off, literally every price you quoted is exagerrated - no point correcting all of them, but jfc a simple google search will show you that a sram omnium crankset is only $200.
2. why are you comparing the price of building a fixed gear bike to the price of buying a complete road bike? obviously it's going to be cheaper to buy a complete track/fixed gear bike than to build it as well, and even if you were building a fixed gear bike it's almost definitely going to be cheaper than building a road bike of equal quality.
try harder.
>>933314
>Sram Omnium almost the same
What? I bought new Omniums (cranks, bb and chainring) for 168 €. They weren't even in a sale or anything.
>>933282
why don't you stop being a pussy and ride without your gears for once and actually get some good pedaling posture you dumb fuck. Every serous cyclist knows fixed gears are the way to train, pussy ass roadies just make them seem like outcast bikes because they can't push their knees to maitain a pace 20 mph. You're the fucking joke here m8.
>>933282
the fixed gear scene would be better if they're weren't some many fucking kids riding around with heavy ass wheelsets and have they're bike looking like it got fucked by a radioactive gay unicorn.
>>933579
I live in the countryside where there are constant hills not some shit flat city mate. I cycle for fun not to be a hipster.
>>933586
I can respect that. Fixed gears are fun to push yourself on, at least I find it one of my favorite hobbies. My city is mainly flat but the most elevation this place gets is 2,500 feet.(Not including mountains) Cycle however you want but don't bash anothers profile just because you don't like the way they're bike functions, that's kiddy shit.
Who else here collects handlebars and stems? I have a small collection that I like to switch out from time to time because I like how different bars/stems make the bike handle differently.
Also my bike is a meme so I might as well roll with it.
>>931995
the only thing worthwhile on that bike is the crankset
>>933789
I have a small collection of bars, need to start getting stems for them so I can switch with ease. It's super nice switching out the bars every once in while.
>>933789
I do the same thing anon
This thread be dry as fuck.
What can we do to liven this.
It wasn't a great thing but it was an OK thing.
Maybe /pyfg/? In the fixed gear general?
>>934448
>What can we do to liven this
put some gears on it
>>934451
If I want to ride a cancer meme machine so be it.
Despite the inefficiencies and pitfalls in practicality a fixed gear is a whole lot of fun.
We can argue all the stale old arguments about fixed gears vs. road bikes if it makes you feel any better fampai.
>>930243
You are dumb.
>tfw can't skid strapless for my life
>>934489
Why would you ride strapless
>>935035
I don't but you can strapless skid with straps
You just don't pull them
>>935037
You must have really low gear ratio
>>934489
nobody running something higher than 1:1 can.
>>930203
How do you like those rims? I'm thinking of building a set for my commuter for the summer. Also, why did you go for a high spoke count?
>>929838
troll bikes best bikes
>>935850
>why did you go for a high spoke count?
The wheelset is from my commuter bike that I use all year, mud or snow. So basically I built a bombproof wheelset and even after a year and a half of use they've stayed true. The weight of the wheelset is about 1,6 kg so not that bad.
The rims are good for commuting bike, and I believe they're would work with cyclocross too. In my build I used Mack hubs (an European company making custom hubs http://www.mackhubs.com/index.php?lang=en) and DT Competition spokes.
>>936647
>they're would work
I don't know what I wanted to type there but definitely not that.
Still riding hard my silver old conversion frame holding up really well.
>>936655
I bet you ride it on the tops 90 % of the time
Fuck i hate track grips so goddamn much
>>936657
Still /fa/ as fuck though.
>>929651
do they have different chainrings? Are tandem track bikes really a thing?
>>936655
Are those archetypes?
>>936688
>do they have different chainrings?
The rear crankset (stoker) has two chainrings, the one on the right connects to the rear hub and determines the gear ratio and the one on the left connects to the front crankset (captain) via a timing chain.
The latter connection transfers power from the captain and also keeps the two riders in sync as the timing chainrings will be the same size, they can be as large or as small as you want without affecting the gear ratio. I suppose they could be different sizes if the riders have different preferred cadences although I don't know if anyone actually does this.
>Are tandem track bikes really a thing?
Yes, even more surprising is there are tandem mountain and downhill bikes.
>>936706
>tandem dh bikes
>the stuff of nightmares.
How does that suicide pact work out in practice?
>>936706
>fixed gear tandem downhill bike
Would be a legendary piece of shit
>>936707
I've never actually seen one in motion, just photos, but you could probably find some videos somewhere (it may even be a legit competitive discipline and not just a bit of fun). As much as I like riding off road I'd rather take a tandem on the road or track, I don't think I could trust another person's riding ability when there's the potential of slamming into a tree.
>>936726
Are you mistakenly assuming that all tandems are fixed, or is that just an addition to make the idea even worse? On a related note it's just occurred to me how awful it would be to have the cranksets linked when riding off road, foot retention would be an absolute must.
>>936779
>On a related note it's just occurred to me how awful it would be to have the cranksets linked when riding off road, foot retention would be an absolute must.
I think that may be least of problems. You all have to shift your weight around in _exactly_ the same manner to navigate obstacles without falling over. And your balance will take feedback from any delay or advance (relative to the motion you where planning) in your partners movement, and instinctively try to counter it.
This is why tandem bikes are hard to ride, and triples/quads are stag party/carnival props.
>>936760
Aside from that, it's a nice bike and if you taped the bars all the way up it would look better and ride a lot nicer. It's almost as bad as having bare bars.
This goes to all you faggots running track grips on street bikes. Unless you're solely racing and you never use the multiple hand positions that make drop bars so superior, cut that shit out.
>>936707
Quite well. A surprising number of folks do it...
A little silly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmKkDLRn81A
A pretty good run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJcXSLuEFqE
>>936848
>implying fixiefags care about function
I have never heard of track grips before and google likes stores more than information, so what does it do exactly?
I mean, why are they good for tracks?
>>937018
It's the one-piece grips that only cover the drop of the bar. They're not realy good for track as Merckx above will tell you, but angsty hipsters like them because they're too stupid to wrap a bar, and think they make their fashion accessories look more "authentic." They propably heard someone call it autistic once and got it mixed up.
>>937019
So they are never the best option?
In my opinion looking at the anon's bike it looks weird, not very stylish.
>>937018
You can get the material and texture fairly similar to flat bar grips, but they only cover the drops. On track-specific handlebars that do not have flat tops or suitable place to hold like "ghost hoods", there is no reason to add grip past the drops. Track racing is pretty much always done in the drops, and one shouldn't be holding the tops near the stem during efforts with other riders in proximity.
On the track, it is really just a matter of preference between tape or grips; like on a mountain bike, some riders may prefer lock-on grips or foam grips.
To say it is useless on the track because an old-ass photo of Merckx has fully-taped bars is nonsense, just like the nonsensical fixie foos on the street that only add grips or tape to the drops when they rarely get down in the drops.
>>937108
>one shouldn't be holding the tops near the stem during efforts with other riders in proximity
Said no hipster with a road conversion ever.
>ITT People telling others how to ride their bikes as if they were some form of authority
How about a big cup of
So my bike came with a 48 tooth chainring and a 16 tooth cog, which obviously is too hard for my atrophied hipster legs. Actually it works, but according to the Internet a 48/19 or 44/17 ratio will allow me to keep up in traffic and get bitches, basically.
>can't find a 44t 144mm chainring
>can't find a 19t freewheel besides $100 white mountaineering
>can't find fucking anything
Help? Where can I find a decent quality 19t freewheel? My LBS wants $50+ to backorder one and add links to my chain.
(Also, I want a freewheel because I'm a giant faggot and I can't bunny hop unless my pedals are horizontal.)
>>937526
44t 144mm 5-arm chainring for 30€ ↓
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;product=95102;menu=1000,4,122;pgc[122]=4816;orderby=2
Don't know where you'd find it in the staes, but now you know what to look for.
Not 19t, but 20t and 23€ ↓
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;product=138209;menu=1000,2,82;pgc[5216]=5217;orderby=2
>>937531
I am in Americaland but I found this:
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-BMX-Freewheel
Chainrings are $50 for the lowest quality ones so I think this will have to do. It's only temporary anyway.
>>937526
This is why people just buy those freewheels that come with lots of cogs on them, because you get a whole bunch to pick from
>>937526
What about an 18 tooth?
Those are easier to find.
>>937550
well, I'm lazy as hell and I would never buy those, unless it came with some kind of motor that moved the chain onto different cogs for you.
>>937560
Well, electric derailleurs have little motors in them that do that.
>>937561
why would I want those, I only use my bike to get to the nearest starbucks and it would probably get stolen there anyway. track bikes are invisible to normie scum as well as bike thieves. I traded bikes with my friend for a few weeks, so he could experience the unbridled euphoria of fixed gear riding. I immediately got complimented on his shitty dept store bike.
>dude nice bike is it new?
I assume was the neon green cable housings and prominent brand placement.
>he only rode my bike once
obviously, I'm not friends with any of those people anymore.
>>937567
I don't know dude. I wasn't telling you to get one.
It's weird what non-cyclist people find to be a cool bike. I was trying to help my friend pick out a bike, and he kept going for the bikes with the weirdest color schemes.
>>937550
Golden Post
Love,
Meme fixter
>>937553
18 would work but if your goal is to have as many skid patches as possible. It would be more logical to use a 17 or a 19 as you would have more points where the tire would wear down.
say a 48:16 where the tire would wear at only one contact point a 48:19 would have 19 different contact points.
However all this basic mathematics is just so that Brakeless fixii riders can wear out our tires a little longer..
>>937567
>track bikes are invisible to normie scum as well as bike thieves.
Are you from 10 years ago?
>>937570
I fell for that meme so hard man.
I love riding my bike but fuck that paint.
Fortunately or unfortunately as the miles added up and my knowledge of bikes grew I realized what a meme I had on my hands.
Its chunky, its not the best but I love her.
My main Aurora.
>>937601
That's hot. Not a fan of that aero spoke front wheel but I like the color.
>>937648
Thanks phamiligia
I named her Aurora because the meme green paint faded and left this light gradient look.
That's actually my third bontrager racelite rim. Its not that I like them or dislike them its just they always seem to be at my co-op after I crash bad and need a new one.
>>931154
what's grass track?
>>931198
W2c bars, my 650c vintage tt troll build needs these.
Picture not mine but current grail.
The GT Pulse Kinesis, I've always been fond of the triple triangle on GT bikes. Current parts assembled awaiting the frame include, Dura Ace to Mavic Open Pro wheel set, 16t Phil Wood Cog, Sugino 75 Cranks, Phil Wood BB, Chris King 1", Nitto Pearl 10, and Nitto B123 Drops.
>>937667
Basically racing track but on a grass loop instead of a velodrome
Please excuse my noobness. My Budd has a generic dingle speed he got from bikes direct a while ago. The frame is a bit too small so we tried swapping over the parts and wheels sets to an old 12 speed Raleigh marathon frame. The chain line doesn't line up. He has a single speed wheel. Shouldn't it fit? Is it the rear freewheel or the crank? How fix
>>937752
The crank. Swap the cranks over too.
>>937756
I did swap the cranks over. I swapped the cranks over but used the original BB and spindle from the Raleigh. Do you think the spindle is too long and needs to be swapped to the one from the original bike (that cane with cranks )
>>937758
Yes, you are correct.
Can anyone recommend a good back wheel to get for a fixie? Looking to get something quite cheap but still reasonably durable to replace the stock wheels on my commuter as they are really shit.
>>937783
deep v on formula hub
it is heavy at 1100+ g
>>937785
Sorry, should have mentioned I am in the UK. The wheels look good but I can't seem to find anyone outside the US that sell them.
>>937783
Never mind components. Get a hand-built wheel and adjust the choose of components to fit the budget. You can get two wheels with the exact same components and one be shot and the other bomb proof - the only difference being one is machine built with nipple torque reference, and the other hand built and tuned by ear and tensiometer.
>>937801
I know even less about wheel components than I do about wheels. Also, aren't hard built wheels generally a lot more expensive? I do about 5 miles a day on this bike and intend to leave it locked up outside random pubs so I'm really not looking to spend much.
>>937829
he's going to tell you to build it yourself and then cite a bunch of ridiculous standards that don't apply to your bike and say if you have anything else it's obscure exotic future tech and you're a MGTOW LBS shill
I bought a frame off craigslist with intentrions of converting it to a single speed. Do i need to order a new BB? The length on there is 68x118 mm (for a double) WHat length should i replace it with?
>>937886
The short answer is yes.
The long answer yes but you also have to concider the frame spacing as well as the wheel spacing. Will you be using a flip-flop hub? Will you be using a cassette conversion? What are the dropouts vertical, horizontal, track dropouts?
Lots to consider
>>936655
nice bike anon
>>936655
>exactly what I wanted to do, except I'll wind up with shit $200 chinese aluminum frame and bull bars
Well shit. At least I know 'all silver' will look okay. You probably also have space for wider tires than 23mm, which I would prefer. Oh well. Tell us more about it if you get the chance. I'm interested in the build process especially. Why those parts, how well did it all go together, etc.
You really like posting that thing.
you post it every couple months on fgb too
>>941211
Craigslist and patience will get you a decent 10 speed from there you can just add mid range components and save ton of money while having 3x better quality over generic hi ten garbage which will cost you the same or more.
- I got a complete vintage 10 speed Moser (still have all the original parts intact) 190€
- blb hubs and weinmann rims 120€
- blb vera crankset + blb track sprocket + surly lock ring + a few cheap KMC silver chains 130€
- blb fly x saddle 40€ (personal preference you can get the normal version for something like 20€)
- giant grips 10€
- michelin dynamic classic 16€ for a pair (got like 10x with a discount)
I don't have much money and blb has very attractive "vintage" looking components so I went for that. The quality is mid range but gets the job done I can tell you that the quality is a lot better than any other generic fixed gear oriented brands. Also the frame can take 25 mm slicks no problem.
>>942854
>blb
Please explain what this actually means.
What I've been doing so far is piecing together new and used stuff as far down in price as I can possibly go while still keeping some modicum of quality. Except the frame and spokes but we'll get to that.
So far I have:
Formula hubs (sealed bearing)
Kinlin XC279 rims
Aero S7 track frame
Dura Ace FC-7410 crankset (used wew)
Sapim Laser spokes
I went with 36H drilling on the rims and hubs for the purpose of meme spoke patterns that I'm having severe second thoughts over (Crow's Foot lacing on the front, 3-leading/3-trailing on the rear). The frame is hot trash but it might still work for me; the bottom bracket threads had a forest of aluminum shavings in them, the bearing seats in the headset are uneven (ground properly but the head tube itself is slightly ovaled), and the fork has a steel steering tube and what seems to be cast aluminum arms that are visibly welded together halfway down. The frame itself is...not too heavy. I'll need to replace the fork though, it weighs as much as I do. I definitely overspent on the spokes because...I'm not sure what I was thinking, really. Such spokes would go much better on a bike with hub braking where the rim is expected to last, like on my other bikes. The used crankset seems passable; the 53t chainring attached has a little wear and has pins/ramps so purists will certainly REEEEEEEE, and I'm still figuring out exact part choices for brakes/brake handles/pedals/stem/seat/handlebar/tires... I've never built a bike from the ground up and this was a crash-course learning experience. Do I have regrets? I'll finish this project and find out. Going for a pursuit handlebar set niiiiiiice and low, and bare aluminum everything.
>>943048
Brick Lane Bikes
>>943048
Looks like you have some decent components put together except for the frame (post pic btw). If I were you I would replace the frame and get something better asap I made the same mistake of buying a complete brand new "fixie" back in 2011 and no matter what I upgraded the frame was an eye sore aswell as a bitch to ride. When I finally got some decent used chromoly frame the difference was enormous, everything lined up, components fit together like a glove, the weight difference and handling just blew my mind so ever since I only convert old frames if needed. My first conversion was stolen a few years back unfortunately with only surviving piece being the saddle kek.
>>943223
http://www.aerofixcycles.com/aero-frames/aero-frame-s7-matte-black.html
Look for yourself. I set myself a very strict budget for the frame because I'm poor, but also wanted to at least meat a minimum standard of quality while doing so. I think I missed with the frame, where it's just too Chinese for me to feel great about it. I'll finish the build for the time being and see how the frame/fork are, then probably switch the fork at least for a higher quality one.
>>943345
>aero
top kek m8 yet another bianchi super pista rip off with added anchor weight down tube like aventon. You fell for the latest "modern track bike" meme but I have seen many people ride it without complaints so it's not that bad.
>>930186
That looks a little like my cross bike
>>943497
Reviews from similar products made it abundantly clear it wouldn't be particularly light. It also had a good chance of being Chinese. I thought I'd roll the dice on the quality, as Visp is known for being acceptable, while other offerings are trash. I got super hung up on this one in particular because of the looks, and it didn't go over my initial budget, so I decided to risk it. In hindsight, I now need to at least buy a fork at some point, but I couldn't have known that ahead of time. There were no reviews for this particular frame.
Oh, by the way
>You fell for
>top kek m8
>meme
>rip off
>>>/s4s/
>>943580
>Visp is known for being acceptable
See, this is how I know you're having le giggle m80
>>943580
But you did fell for the latest meme my friend. With frames of that type and shape you either go carbon or go home.
>>943598
"acceptable" for a given definition of the word. I liked to use an '87 Schwinn beach cruiser to get around downtown Chicago day and night. Four-inch caliper brakes on chrome rims, aww yea. With an old set of Wald baskets on the rear and a Wald Pizza Rack up front, I used it for a shitload of stuff+getting groceries and also sight seeing. I took that damn thing onto Metra trains and the light rail...It weighed damn near 50 pounds, and was only the second bike I've ever owned. Really, I've only ever owned heavy vintage stuff. This fixed frame is the lightest I've ever had.
And I meant similar aluminum frames that Visp sold...What was it, around 2011 or so? Reviews were cautiously positive, with few critical issues in their construction. I'm hoping what I've got doesn't snap in half or creak annoyingly. Otherwise it meets my standards for "acceptable".
>>943598
This bike is really freaking me the fuck out, by the way. I haven't googled it yet and I'm trying to figure out if it's quality or not. The mechanical disks, the brake lever placement, and the kick stand are all telling me "no". And what the hell kind of shifters are those, friction? That said, I love eclectic bikes and the weird mishmash of parts on this puts it right up my alley.
>>943626
Last piece of the puzzle on my frame choice; I knew the Pre Cursa was better if I broke the ceiling on my budget and was already antsy for how much this was all going to cost. I also have an aversion to your bog standard diamond frame. Like, to the point where I would have subjectively hated owning the objectively superior frame. It felt too samey, too plain janey, and I know I'd have been unhappy with it. A really odd spot for me to be in, knowing I'm making a poorer choice with an untested frame. I've yet to ride it, so we'll just have to wait and see.
DON'T JUDGE ME DAMN YOU ALL
