/BRT/ Bike Racing Training general thread
>>914063
Do terrariums count as transportation since you just go around in circles?
>>914065
Nope. Won't fly there at all. You don't like it then hide the thread and go talk about buses or whatever it is the rest of you do.
HI GUYS TRAINING FOR RACING DOING ALL KINDS OF PT FOR MY KNEE TODAY. LAST SESSION OF PHYSICAL THERAPY I THINK! TOMORROW DOING 1:30 ON TRAINER AGAIN. NOIDEA WHAT COACH HAS PLANNED FOR THE 1:30 BUT YEAH LOL.
OK SOMEONE ELSE SHARE THEIR TRAINING (:
ALSO IT'S -5C OUTSIDE EVERY DAY DFOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS WITH ICE ALL OVER THE PLACE RIP.
SO ANYWAY GUYS GOT ANY TRAINING TIPS (: HOW TO GET FROM 260WATT FTP BACK TO 340 WATTS FAST? LOL JK BUT YEAH LOL LOL ANYWAY....................
KPEACEOUTBYE
>>914126
GUISE my 20 second power today was 600w!!!!
>>914208
HOLY SHIT 600 WATTS FOR 20 SECONDS..
DAMN NICE GIRL1!!!
TELL US, AS A GIRL, WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING DO YOU FEEL IS BEST FOR YOUR SPRINTING? (:(:
Thank you for your contribution, Seth.
HI GUYS I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE TO SHARE SOME TRAINING MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES LOL HERE YOU GO
>>914213
A DILDO IN THE BUM GETS THE JOB DONE
>>914219
OK LAST ONE... HUGE DUMP OF ALL MY INSPIRATIONAL AND MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES LOL.. HOPE U GUYS APPRECIATE THEM & IT HELPS YOU GET TYHROUGH THE TOUGH TIMES YOUR ALL HAVING WITH YOUR TRAINING
And here I thought there would be some actual discussion here.
What a fucking idiot I am
Tfw I want to get good so bad
>>914282
Get gud sun
>>914268
I kind of expected this. /n/ is so full of wankers and NEETs and hipsters that it was a foregone conclusion. Might I remind you that you can hide comments?
Currently recovering from whatever shithead virus is going around that crawled down into my lungs and gave me walking pneumonia, but the prednisone is helping quite a bit so maybe I can actually ride somewhere next week. Haven't even started Base yet..
>>914282
Get Cyclists' Training Bible.
>>914215
Who's Seth?
>>914320
>search /asp/
>nothing about racing road bikes
You don't like this thread then HIDE IT and STFU, wanker.
>>914208
What is 'w' supposed to symbolise?
>>914316
THIS IS SETH (:
>>914400
Looks like like a femboy
>>914402
Yeah he told me he sucks dick all the time. He also asked if I would ask you for your number for him
>>914268
There's a discussion to be had, I don't know why I would help people on the internet train for free though.
>>914402
>>914403
Wow, sounds like nobody likes this Seth much. I already don't like him just for the posting with capslock on. The pic just makes him all the more unlikable.
>>914415
What's that supposed to mean?
I've wondered why it seems like a board that likes bikes so much also seems so against even talking about bike racing. Without bike racing there really wouldn't be much in the way of bikes at all, all there would likely be is something your grandmother would ride (like oddly enough the adult tricycles I just had to select for the captcha)
>>914315
>/n/ is so full of...
>>914426
Sadly, it's just one very vocal samefag who has appointed herself as queen and master of /n/ and shitposts relentlessly to ward off cyclists, often false flagging as one herself.
Source: Oldfag who rarely posts but still monitors the board out of habit.
This board is truly dead now, but an alternative might come soon if Josh can get his shit together.
>>914428
I guess I'm abandoning this thread then. I've been sick for a month and haven't been able to ride let alone do any training and I thought at least talking about it might be nice until I get back on my feet, but this is just dragging me down now.
Thanks, cunts!
>>914426
>Wow, sounds like nobody likes this Seth much. I already don't like him just for the posting with capslock on. The pic just makes him all the more unlikable.
lmao you're such a fucking pansy. #SayItToMyFace
Also just did 1:30, did a little bit of tempo but 90% of it was easy for my knees. Prolly will do some hardish rides by the end of the month or early Feb.
>>914323
>not creating a new thread
>using /n/ as a personal board to avoid the ridicule of tougher athletes.
Has anyone even tried to post there?
>>914464
All bike related threads have traditionally gone on n. Therefore, people looking for bike threads come to n. Why would we change it simply to appease you and your trains, Sheldon?
>>914467
No they don't even come to 4chins in the first place. You stumbled upon a board with a misplaced bicycling scene where you can talk all the shit you want within the confines of a low traffic board. Racing isn't transportation it's recreation. Unless its about riding your 26 inch full rigid with slicks and bags to work you should be posting to the correct board and allow appropriate discourse to continue.
>>914063
Just picked this up for under 3k
>>914500
Nah dog, not happening. Post on the right board and stop hiding your community of nohomo fagz on /n/.
No homo.
>>914486
Report the threads that you consider misplaced. I'm sure the mods will deal with them appropriately.
>>914504
What pedals are those?
>>914519
they're obv TIME pedals.
>>914504
black bikes are starting to look underwhelming.
>>914527
What do you mean? I agree that Scott doesn't look flashy, but it's beautiful no doubt
Hi guys
First race weekend is almost here, super stoked. About to purchase a TT bike from my team mate for the low so I can be a bit more competitive during stage races (road bike + clip ons won't cut it for our cat 3 field)
Recent power test put me awful close to my FTP goal of 5w/kg, should meet/exceed it by mid season (around when our state TT/Crit is)
seth please no caps we're all rly chill dudes here
>>914537
Let us know how it goes
First race of the season on sunday. I'm gonna suck b/c I just got out of being sick for a week.
Pic related: My race bike. I still need to get some decent wheels.
>>914428
I will try and make an effort @ dat forever shitters competition thing i thought of like 2 years ago :)
Otherwise friend i think us oldfags are just going to have to accept that it will never be like the good old days :))))
But i will still always be here, sethposting and shitposting until i make or die from cancer :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>914589
make it* :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>914590
it sick
>wonder about insuring my bike
>cover that includes race insurance costs $500p.a.
>more than third party fire & theft for my cage
I mean, yes my bike is worth more than my car. But I'm not sure what I was expecting really.
>>914527
Black bikes have always looked underwhelming. Especially matte black ones that are trying way too hard to be stealthy.
>>914574
those wheels are fine. What's the problem?
>>914605
watts per kilogram of body weight.
>>914648
I use velosurance, paid like $400 and later got a check for like $3900 when I got caught up in a crash. Sound investment if you're paying for your own gear and like to go fast.
>>914574
KMC X10SL? I just put one on my bike, nice change from silver.
>>914750
I think we was asking your weight sensei :P
>>914750
according to this chart my power output for 5 seconds is mid cat 2, my 1 minute is cat 4ish, and my 5 minute is low cat 5.. then again this is all based off of stravas estimated power out puts so we all know thats buggy as hell... i'd probably be mid cat 5 if I raced and that would mean taking time out of the gym and probably rarely training upper body.
>>914464
i've tried in the past with no luck, see they even post WWE type stuff so really we dont want or need to be associated with them... it would be nice if we had /bike/
>>914750
>Implying 'w' is the symbol for the watt
Re-examine the image you posted.
>>914864
Watts are not a SI unit, and do not have to follow the usage indicated by the SI brochure. Watts are a unit acceptable to use with SI units, but not actually SI units.
>>914878
>Being this wrong
>Implying the SI Brochure says things that it does not
Please read the SI Brochure.
>>915062
I think most of us are wondering if you have even read the SI brochure...
well m8s, I'm back on the horse
took a break after mtb and cx, looking forward to my first road season
Just got my first power meter and did my first power test yesterday. I'm analyzing the data tomorrow. I know I'm not in top shape (I'm also from sea level and tested at elevation) but I'm cautiously optimistic.
What are your goals /brt/? I'm planning on doing well in collegiate road and hopefully make a good showing at the Tour of the Gila.
>>914400
sexyyyyyy :D
>>915112
Actually starting to race would be mine.
>>915062
well, he is technically right. There are only 7 true SI units that can define all other units: meter, kg, second, ampere, kelvin, mole, and candela. The true SI notation for power would be kg*m2*s^-3. Force is mass time acceleration and would defined as a kg(m/s2) which is one newton. Energy is is force over a distance so N*m also known as a joule. power is energy divided by time so it would be joules per second, (N*m)/s. A newton meter is a joule, and a joule per second is a watt. A watt is an SI derived unit, and commonly accepted as the unit for power since the definitions are interchangeable.
>>915127
Fuck homie, r u a grill?
How tall r u
cause like. Im 68kg n mai is like 4.8 :\\\\\\\\\\\\\
6"00 :|||||||||
I made an effort
>>915160
DFont bully pls
>>915178
Depends on height, build, etc. How tall are you?
I'm 1.8 m and have been around 70kg my entire adult life.
>>915229
Damn, an underweight BMI. Genuine skellington tier.
Anyone have any tips for what I should focus on for build?
I have pretty good short term power and shitty FTP
10.3 w/kg 1 min
5.6 w/kg 5 minute
4.3 w/kg FTP
I've never done short term intervals so I was surprised when I did 580w for 1 min at 124lbs
It seems like a super useless power to weight profile, way too small watts for crits, no long term power for long climbs, only thing I can think of where this is good is on short punchy climbs.
wat do?
2x20s till I die?
>>915234
Become puncheur / look up the british hill climb TT scene.
my FTP is 4.74 which I feel is ok for now. I'd like to get it to 5 someday. 69kg, 6'1". I'm a skinny boy but I can climb
>>915178
>I start to feel sick and weak at under 80
fucking pansy
>>915241
4x20 of what
FTP or SS?
4x20 FTP intervals is a fuck ton of work
sometimes people graduate to 3x20 @FTP but that is pretty brutal
>>915343
Sorry, I forgot to specify. I do them at LT, sometimes with a jump every 5 minutes.
>>915364
How close are you LT intervals to you VO2Max ones? I think I go too hard when doing them because 2x20s are pretty horrid...I do them to power but maybe I need to go down a bit there for more volume? My VO2MaxHR averages usually around 192 when I'm fit (I haven't ridden a lot since sept and did some yesterday and averaged 200bpm), my LT stuff is around 185-186 bpm when I'm fit...spposedly they should be more like 175bpm which is a lot easier...
>>915366
I always use power for them, not HR. LT is 91%-105% of FTP and VO2 is 106%-120% of FTP. Big difference for 20 minutes!
>>915092
I can assure you, I have read it many times. When I detect any but the basest of errors, I refer to the SI Brochure to ensure that I identify the problem precisely.
>>915127
For the fullest understanding of the proper use of SI prefixes, units and unit symbols, you should consult the SI Brochure. In order to address the particular failing I initially brought your attention to, you need only copy the expression as shown in the image you posted in >>914750
>>915129
>Implying the seven SI base units are the only SI units
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>915156
>Mixing unit systems
>No space between the number and the unit
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>915181
>>915229
>No space between the number and the unit
Please re-read the SI Brochure
I don't think there has ever been a cycling activity posted by a Forever Shinkansen member on Strava that hasn't exceeded 20 m/h.
>>915234
I think you should focus on re-reading the SI Brochure until you can use SI prefixes, units and unit symbols as prescribed by the Brochure.
>>915327
>Mixing unit systems
>Expressing functional threshold power with a unit of 1
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>915670
say it to my face, not online you fucking pansy
is there a mod? can we all ask the mod to ban SI brochure guy?
he shits up every thread
>>915676
He only shits up threads when people seem to have problems following the SI brochure. He's doing God's work tbqh familia.
>tfw didn't get a (You) from SI brochure guy
>>915670
oh fuck off. I don't care about how tall I am in cm. also I'm gonna express my FTP however the fuck I want
post your ftps brehs
>>915933
Buy me a power meter and I'll tell you ok
>>915229
I know :(
Sorry desu but some people will cheat and i cant be ffed figuring out how to score speed
>>915958
When you say cheat do you mean like, digital EPO or driving up a hill and only recording a descent?
>>915969
You could just manually pause when you're going slow.
>>915970
P. sure (at least for garmins) if you manually pause strava will paint a straight line between the stop and start points and fill in the time.
>>915969
Yes those and mainly adding manual rides.
I considered a speed jersey a while ago but couldnt come up with a way that wouldnt revolve around shifting through piles of information to compare who had the highest average speed in relation to distance ridden or who had say for instant only uploaded one ride that he clocked 100km/h on.
Really theres nothing wrong with avg just rather i couldnt come up with a easy way to compare it competitively
>>916014
>60kg
CMON
pic related, a foto of u. PNASY BITCH.
>>915680
you're obviously si brochure guy because there is not a single person that is amused or enjoys his stupid meme spam
>>915178
I'm 5'10" and 64kg.
Alberto Contador is 5'9" and 62kg.
So go figure.
>>916014
Hey, mine is 4.74 ayy lmao. 68kg
>>916138
post your strava
this always happens on competitive bike forums
9 out of 10 people say they have cat 1/domestic pro power and then when asked to put up proof the thread dies
>>915178
6'2" 65kg
Are you even a cyclist?
(nah it's pretty unhealthy but the climbing game ridikulus)
196 watts based on a lab test, not racing.
153lb, 5'4. I started at 194lb before I started cycling.
>>916142
the fuk would my strava prove?
I have cat 1 road power because I can climb. I've never raced road, I race cat 1 mountain and A collegiate. I can't sprint for shit. I'm starting road but I'll suck at it because no tactics.
>>916142
I can hit about 40 mph with a 53x11 on the flats with my road bike. I can hold this for a few miles before I burn out. I always end up running out of gearing with a 46t when in route to the trails.. I understand you think you are some eilte rider that 'knows' everything about biking but I think you are just weak as fuck.
Anyone have a team that really fucks with other riders by attacking at retarded / random times, false breakaways, etc?
>>916142
>>916014
attached
>>916194
:^) wow thats fast!!
>>916196
There's a shop team in my area that will show up with like 7 extra guys on the last day of a stage race and just all sit around and block while the shop owner TTs off the front. This is in the 4/5 races though so most people don't even notice.
pic unrelated
>>916194
big deal i can sustain 115mph going up a 20% grade at 130x9 until the rear sprocket wears down completely
>>916213
Why else would you sponsor 5s as a shop owner?
>>916213
>just all sit around and block while the shop owner TTs off the front
sounds a bit kimo desu
>>916248
How else you gonna get sponsored deals from a shop as a 5?
>>916255
haha, I'm not saying it's bad or anything
That's just exactly what midosuji has his goons do on one of the INTA HIGH stages.
>>915672
The sentiment is reciprocated.
>>915680
Perhaps you used SI prefixes, units and unit symbols as prescribed by the SI Brochure? If so, thank you.
>>915704
You are free to express your height using any multiple or submultiple of the metre as you see fit.
People are likely to misinterpret your functional threshold power if you do not specify a valid unit. I recommend using an SI-derived compound unit of the appropriate dimension.
>>916014
>>916138
>Expressing functional threshold power with a unit of 1
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>916019
>No space between the number and the unit symbol
>Assuming the use of an SI unit where the unit of 1 was specified
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>916101
>>916143
>>916151
>Mixing unit systems
>Using non-SI units not approved for use with the SI
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>916194
>Propagating memes which invoke SI prefixes and unit symbols in a manner not permitted by the SI Brochure
Cease and desist.
>>916220
>Abusing SI prefixes and unit symbols
Please re-read the SI Brochure.
>>916289
your a bitch.
>>916101
I doubt contador weighs that much during the season. I'm 5'9" and usually get down to 122-124lbs. during the summer and still don't look as lean as him.
>>916212
how much u weigh
I tried strava stalking u but everyone on that seggy but the number 1 spot was 266w and it took him 15:18 to do it
how did you do 301w and take 20 minutes to do it?
>>916327
http://www.strava.com/activities/466105890
133 pounds americano
I didn't begin the test at the start of any segment, just rode through one. That's a manual lap, not anything designated by Strava.
>>914574
What bars are those?
>>916345
nice heart rate bruh.
Im popping around 186 :(
wish i had a non shit heart like uuuuu
any1 else using this guide? lmao... thought it was relly hekpful desu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDR0u-deIc
>>916433
>trek bike on the wall
>black hair
seth is aaron confirmed
>>916427
my max HR is maybe 191, even though I can't reach it. Maxed out at 189? so far. I simply can't get higher than that.
Maybe I have a Froome heart...
>>916492
Quick google says his max ever seen is 174, so nah :)
>>916493
i assumed as much. Wishful thinking. Just looked at some power data from a mid peloton rider and felt sad
>>916460
there's no way to recover from that position. no way.
>>916536
Maybe he was going fast enough to be launched forward if he slammed on the back brake
Though I doubt it
>>916492
i get to 204 hr during races max. regularly hit 196 as max in training tho if i remember right..
less fatigue = higher hr
more fatigue = lower hr
also more excited/pumped (like during a big effort in race) = highherr hr.
Max HR decreases with fitness too
When I'm out of shape I can hit over 200 bpm
During the season I max out around 191-192
180s bpm when I'm out of form feels like 170s when on form.
It has to do with the amount of blood volume you have. More blood volume=lower heart rates. Froome must have a shit load of blood.
>>916593
I know that, but that doesn't have anything to do with your max. If I were fatigued, my HR would decrease either way, no matter what my max is. Having a high max =/= not fatiguing. I could be putting in the same effort as you at 204 bpm when I'm at 188, etc.
>>916601
I've heard that Froome had some sort of disease that made him generate a lot of blood or something like that (good thing he grew up in Africa, eh) so now he has insane HR
>>916327
What does the 'w' symbolise?
>>916609
>
mad WATTS
>>916613
'W' is the symbol for the watt, so that can't be it.
>>916615
wat
>>916609
'w' is a common japanese emoticon
ㅇㅈㅇ
>>916646
I think that's the prevalent theory. Really cool story regardless
What are you guys favorite trainer workouts?
I like these 30 sec intervals that go
30 sec 100% VO2max 1 min 50% VO2max x10
5 min rest
30 sec 100% VO2Max 30 sec 50% VO2max x10
5 min rest
30 sec 100% VO2max 15 sec 50% VO2max x10
done
also
(5 min zone 2, 5 min FTP) x 5 or 6 times for a nice hour
>>916872
i dont like any of the trainer workouts
>BRT
>No DH
>>916883
I hope you won because that steez is unacceptable
>>916883
Well, I mostly race XC and I'm just starting road this year. I'm cat 1 XC junior, but I guess my race age in 19 now baka. I should see if I can get a pro upgrade lol, I haven't renewed yet
>>914537
>>914566
Cat 3 road race on Saturday was brutal, half of the field dropped out due to high winds and low temps. I got into a break with a few others and came in second on the uphill finish. Winner is our current state RR champion, so I don't really mind being second to that dude.
Sunday was a short crit and dang I was rusty. Didn't really work hard, just wasn't in the right tactical mindset to position myself well at the end. Ended up 9th, but I think I shook off the cobwebs at least.
I saw someone destroy a new Madone with Enve's today, wish I would of taken pictures for you guys.
>>917154
how they do that
>>917154
I knew it. There's no way from recovering
>>916894
what happens when you go beyond steez
>>917246
you automatically get sponsored
who wants to go for a ride with me anons
>>915112
>Tour of the Gila
UNM? NMSU? ....NAU even?
>>917154
>state champ
>racing cat 3
Nek level sandbagging
>>917923
It means RR state champ for Cat 3. He won one road race that happened to have a jersey and title attached to it. I can't know if he is sandbagging without seeing how many points he has accumulated, but that "award" alone doesn't automagically make him a sandbagger.
>>917931
Correct.
However, he's already got a fair amount of points and has said he doesn't plan to upgrade anytime soon, and no one can make him because this is his last year as a junior. He's talented as heck and probably just doesn't want to go from being a big fish in a small pond to the opposite.
>>917918
FLC, but I'm not racing with them.
How long do you have to train for to not make a twat out of yourself in a road race?
>>915112
Post strava link to power test :^) ill give u kudos
Goals at to race as much as possible, and not burn out on the quest to become a cat 2. Also want to buy a TT bike, since my teammate decided at the last minute not to sell his. I have more vacation time this year so I want to do a few "bigger" races out of my state. Looking at the Georgia Grand Prix, Gila, and the Tour of the Southern Highlands. Possibly more. Will definitely be racing 2 of the USA Crits series event in Florida, since they're right in my home town.
>>918011
In USA non hill regions just a couple months serious training if you have been reletively fit for at least a few years. I'd say 5 months 'training' from a low lvl fitness to hold your own in a cat 5. 18 months training and you should be able to win a cat 4 if you are a good racer.
Anything over cat 3 you can't really tell because it's as much a matter of skill as fitness. There is a lot of cat 3s who are the same fitness as cat 4s though. Just tactics etc
>>918045
I'm in England and it's hilly everywhere really, not alps tier though but constantly up and down.
Are the categories the same internationally?
https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/search/article/roadst_Road-Categories_Classifications
>>917931
You americans have state champs for different grades? But doesnt everyone realise that no one cares unless you are top of A grade/Cat 1 etc?
>>918048
Don't you realize no one other than some local racers even care for more than 10 minutes about who the Cat 1 champ is?
Does the existence of a Cat 3 championship detract from the "value" of a Cat 2 or Cat 1 championship?
Bought a Stages last week but just found out about a better deal on a PM. They say they won't accept returns if it's been installed on a bike (ie pedals installed). Can they check that or is it just bs?
>>918077
How much of a better deal?
who /doesntmindthetrainer/ here? It can give a more accurate interval workout with a very controlled setting which I like. Riding outside (in the winter) is great for group rides/base/Z2 but i'd rather do foundation/building intervals on the trainer.
>>918095
Right there with you bro. I don't mind the trainer at all, I go into my trance like state without worrying about traffic or whatever
>>918095
I do z2s on the exercise bike because I can watch the tele that way
>>918081
$280 cheaper. Friend in the industry.
>>918191
I'd just see if you can get a decent price for it on eBay.
>>918067
Its pretty much the participation award of racing
>>918077
So easy to check dude
>>918046
If you're talking GB then you'll need a full year of training to be competitive, maybe less if you come from an endurance racing background and have a smart head on your shoulders.
>>918256
How come? Higher standards?
>>918242
>participation award
>beat all other participants in your field
>only one award
yeah dude we're all state champs, since we raced the state championship.
>tfw you just start riding again after your rest period and then you immediately get sick
>>918282
It would take a while to explain fully, but the main reason is that most races you'll do at the start will be 3/4, and cat 3 has a massive spread of ability, ranging from guys who could be 1's/elites/are ex elites but are only 3's because they don't race more than once or twice a year in local events, to total beginners who just lucked in to points by winning cat 4 circuit races against fat sportivists. Also Cat 3 has lots of young riders on their way up, who will also often be riding at a very high standard, and may very well have been national / international level juniors.
But if you train your arse of 20h a week, and get lean as fuck, and i mean lean as fuck, none of this "muh health" "muh metabolism" "muh big boned", then after one year you should smash it.
>>918304
That sounds stupid why don't they change the categories?
>>918313
Racing is incredibly unprogressive in many ways
>>918313
BC is dumb and literally only cares about its handful of chosen olympic "golden riders" at any time, and using sportives and races to fund them.
>>918331
Only smart, strong riders who do lots of races progress to cat 2 in my experience.
Either that or those who just get really lucky, which does happen.
So if you want to get there, you'd better start training up, gaining up, and leaning out.
>>918332
Do you have to be Froome-tier skelly to progress?
>>918337
you need to be lean, around 10% b/f, ideally less. I would say someone like Cancellara or Boonen has the ideal body for UK racing (note, they are much bigger than Froome, Contador et al, but still very lean).
Don't get so hung up on it that you lose power, but it's important to remember that cycling is all about efficiency, and less b/f = huge efficiency gains.
How you actually look is immaterial (Contador for example looks like Fabu would smash him in a TT, but the 2009 tour says otherwise)
Also get very aero, stretch a lot, do plenty of core work. So many strong riders just haemorrhage speed by having shitty, non aero positions. The "pick a fast position and adapt" mentality springs to mind here.
>>918339
Is racing fun though, or does it become just MUH TIMES MUH GAINS?
>>918355
I'll tell you my story and let you make your own decisions -
I started cycling for fun, now I've become near neurotic about it. I get my fun from having agonisingly painful training sessions. It's nowhere near as easy as just bimbling around the lanes having a chat, especially if I'm slogging out base miles in shit winter weather.
BUT
Now I have discovered that there is no finer feeling than seeing it all come together, getting it right, blowing up the field and winning a race. It really makes it all worth it, and for this alone, I love cycling, she is the one for me.
>>918357
I'm new to cycling and nowhere near being able to do it competitively, but was just wondering if it would be something fun. The atmosphere and all that looks great. I'm not a competitive person at all but I can see how it'd be good testing yourself really.
Do you think it's something every cyclist should at least try? Or can it ruin cycling and just turn it into what you say, an autistic number crunching strategic thing?
>>918358
I'm a very competitive person, and I really love the feeling of smashing everyone, making them suffer, and being the best, that's why I like it.
Racing isn't for everyone, and I would advise against doing it unless you really want to. A race is a fierce place and you've really got to want to be there. if you're just a chill non competitive person then I would recommend audax, or some kind of offroad riding, and there's certainly no shame in not being a racer, or even never being a racer, contrary to what some say.
>>918361
Fair enough then! I'm planning to get into sportives, one near me in May that I'll do, they seem fun.
I'm a fat shit (6'3" 285ibs) and I wanna lose weight. I dream of racing someday bit its gonna be a long, tough road. Anybody got some advice on training for a newb?
>>918365
Cycle more eat less
>>918362
Sportives are full of wannabe racer middle aged men who are too slow to race, and get btfo by actual racers, shattering their fragile egos, so they try and race sportives.
riding standards are getting lower and lower in sportives for this reason, so I would be very careful. This is why, if you're into road riding but not racing, I would recommend audax. Far better community, far safer, and some really cool events out there (like paris - brest - paris) that actually present a challenge of sorts, not like these "epic" 100 mile sportives people are whoring out for money.
>>918368
Wew there's a 100km one near me on the 20th of Feb.
Not ready for that desu lel, further I've done is 52km.
Does it matter if sportives are full of slow people? Are they not fun?
>>918367
Obviously. Should I be focusing on anything in particular as far as training? I'd like to try an event 60 miles or longer by the end of summer.
>>918370
It's not the slow people, there's nothing wrong with being slow, it's the wannabe fast people who have convinced themselves a sportive is a race, and they ride dangerously.
>>918373
Ah right, they sound like twats.
>>918370
He's exaggerating m8. He has such a fragile hipster ego he gets triggered whenever he sees anyone trying hard, because to a hipster if you can't be at the top, you shouldn't try at all. This is why hipsters gravitate towards smaller niche disciplines or try to separate themselves from the norm not by trying hard and losing, but instead by seeking activities the hipster considers more hardcore, but objectively difficult to make a direct comparison in difficulty.
Honestly, this hipster underachievement attitude is killing cycling.
>>918375
They are, and really they've started ruining what would have been fun, inclusive events otherwise.
>>918378
m8 treating an open road sportive like a race, nearly hitting cars, crashing in to novice riders or causing them to crash, swearing at traffic or other riders for no reason, this is nothing to do with ego, it's just people being plain dangerous.
7/10 you got a half hearted response
>>918375
Almost no one thinks a sportive is a race where you have to win. To a lot of people, it's an event where you put in your best effort and try to do your best.
>>918379
Nice exaggerations. You really convinced me since I'm a naive rider who has never ridden in any sort of organized ride before. Let me worship you and take your platitudes as gospel.
>>918380
>Almost no one thinks a sportive is a race where you have to win.
If only that were true, there are people who genuinely believe sportives are races. And I've seen first hand the damage they can cause through their reckless behaviour.
The attitude you purport, one of stiving for best personal effort, isn't one I think anyone should look down on, and I don't like the elitist amateur racers who somehow think they're above recreational riders.
>>918385
I don't know where you've been riding m8 but all the sportives I've done have had far too many morons riding them like races for me to be comfortable.
>>918388
Sure thing, m80. You are 100% right. There's no way you just aren't a hipster shit who got btfo by middle aged men in a sportive, shattering your fragile ego, so you try do audax where you get a gold star sticker for just finishing. And you totally did the PBP and got the biggest gold star sticker of them all.
>>918391
you've just made it too obvious now, which is a shame really, there was some excellent potential for high quality trolling.
>>918392
Here's your gold star sticker, hipster scum.
>>918393
let me break down why you're trolling was bad
>blatant insults - "hipster shit" "shattering your fragile ego"
>criticizing audax for handing out a "gold star sticker" just for finishing, when sportives hand out medals
some careful tailoring of that response would have actually elicited a serious response from me, just tighten it up next time and you might be trolling with the best of them one day
>>918362
Here's the thing about audax. There is an actual difference and audax is more laid back.
You pick the event based on your desired challenge level, rather than using a standard length event to do your best and complete as fast as you can, because audax is based on completion. That means the strongest riders are trying to do it at a comfortable pace, and the people trying their hardest are at the back. Lengths vary from sportive lengths, and instead of going faster like you would with a sportive, they get longer.
By no means should you avoid sportives just because some guy is trying to justify his anti-try-hard attitude and being mad at MAMILs. Note that a lot of hipstershits are attracted to audax, because it lets them ride steel rando bikes and wool clothes at a challenge level they don't feel threatened by. A hipster will find himself at home with other hipsters in audax. Sportives are still far safer and kinder than an actual race, but there's a higher proportion of lycra. They're nowhere as bad as the guy pretends they are. He just doesn't like that people try to go fast and he is surrounded by lycra.
>>918394
>blatant insults - "hipster shit" "shattering your fragile ego"
>Sportives are full of wannabe racer middle aged men who are too slow to race, and get btfo by actual racers, shattering their fragile egos, so they try and race sportives.
That's actually from you, you self-oblivious m80.
>criticizing audax for handing out a "gold star sticker" just for finishing, when sportives hand out medals
Yes, they're both shit for plebs, what's your point?
>>918395
I'll do the sportive and make my own decision. It looks fun.
>>918397
Good for you.
can someone give me the low down on canadian racing
preferably around calgary
Does this video hold even a grain of truth? Is this routine any good at all..? BRT advice PLEASE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIjctlKfRbA
>>918358
>I'm not a competitive person at all but I can see how it'd be good testing yourself really.
Time trials would probably suit you better than bunch racing. You don't need to worry about being up to snuff before taking part in one of those either.
>>918371
Start by building up how hard you can ride for an hour, then introduce progressively shorter interval workouts.
>>918481
Wii fit and Zumba is better
>>918599
Thanks, brother.
>>918480
pls someone help
bought a bright orange no name carbon TT bike off the swap meet for under $400 without wheels. Sram rival, uberhund bars. Stoked. Set out to not spend a ton on a bike that I'll barely get to race, and I got just that. Team confirmed to loan me a disk/deep front to race on.
Anyone here have TT bikes? post 'em
i love riding in New Mexico tbqh
>>919097
Let's see yours first faggot
Always humbling that even when I come 2nd in my C-Grade race there's always B and A above that.
Long way to go.
so?,, i dont hear about electronics?,
,,,Transqutanius stimulation can grow muscle in ,, well, ME.,feel,my Butt!
, itso strong it can make muscle faster then ligaments,, so Tearing from bone is danger.,
,,,imagineyour sponsor having the "Volume?, "CLIMB!!"
>>919097
>>919097
his riding garb is decidedly pleb, 2bh
>>916593
>204 max heart rate
Are you a teenager anon?
>>919225
Not him but the highest I've seen mine at was 195 and I'm almost 20
>>918393
Dude the fact that you're actually calling audax hipster while defending sportives(which are fucking lame) show's that your painfully unhip yourself.
I bet you're actually intimidated by people that you perceive as being cooler than you so you try to dismiss them with meaningless pejoratives.
>>918378
>hipster underachievement attitude is killing cycling.
KEK
You should see how much weed I smoke on my 10mph average century rides
>>919715
>being slow
why live
roll call for boyos gonna be at Tour of the Gila
>cat
>how you think you'll do
>>919712
>Dude the fact that you're actually calling audax hipster while defending sportives(which are fucking lame) show's that your painfully unhip yourself.
>hipster audist gets assblasted when identified as an audistic hipster
>I bet you're actually intimidated by people that you perceive as being cooler than you so you try to dismiss them with meaningless pejoratives.
>hipster audist tries to shit all over something with his ironic opinion of betterer-taste-than-thou calls kettle black when called out for it
>>919689
Might want to get your heart checked for AF and other factors lad, because that is pretty freaky HR for your age.
>>919736
No it's not? Even using the outdated 220-age gives you 185 as a "theoretical" max. It's basically threshold?
My dad did 175 average 186 max over a 35 minute ride the other day and he's turning 60 this year.
>>919715
>You should see how much weed I smoke over the course of a 400-day long ride
Quite a lot, I would imagine.
>>919790
>century
>400 days
Try 36,524 days
>>919790
> he doesn't know what a century ride is
I held 193bpm for an hour last year (26/7)
Jus saiyan
>>919865
Holy shit. Age, weight and height?
My ex gf could do that, but we're pretty young and she's small... and a girl...
>>919865
Sounds dangerous desu
>>919871
Is this your gf?
>>919871
26, just before my 27th birthday, 69kg, 6'2"
>>919885
>is that meant to be a cycling cap
>hi vis jacket that clearly is unaero as fuck
>kneepads
>tail not tucked in for aero
>ears not tied & tucked for aero
>hasn't even shaved, those hairs can't be very aero
>how are you going to clip in those flexy paws
2/10 would not ride with tbqhwyfam
>>919890
whoa. I'm a similar build (68-69kg, 6'1') but I'm only 18. My max is 189 and I've hit it once, for like 5 seconds, in the uphill sprint of my life
>>919917
>in the uphill sprint of my life
iktf, when do we reach the top of the hill?
>>917154
god the kid in the thumbnail is annoying irl
>>919185
>triathlon setup
>>919918
never, brother
keep climbing
>>918480
Every province does their shit differently.
You have to look up how it works in Alberta.
>>919820
A ride of 100 km, duh
>>919918
>he still thinks the hill has a top
>>914063
I thought it was impossible IRL, but what the fuck caleb ewan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsB_Ad_0p9g
>>920091
it's 100 miles actually
>>920368
rule 24 m8
That said it's easy to avoid confusion if you specify imperial or metric
>>920345
>can't hang in the vuelta last year
>does this shit this year
hm
>>920378
You know he won a stage at the vuelta before pulling out, right?
Like, sure he tends to fade out over a long tour but that doesn't mean can't sprint with the best of them.
>>920385
I know he did, sprinter consistency just makes me lol sometimes.
He's really young too. He's got a long career ahead.
>>920369
what is rule 24
>>920392
>Speeds and distances shall be referred to and measured in kilometers.
>>920394
yes but a century has always traditionally been 100 miles
>>920395
Maybe in third world countries that still use imperial units. In any civilized place a century refers to 100 km.
>>920436
>If we say that the standard meter in Paris is one meter long it isn't the same sense of "one meter" as when we say this cloth is "one meter long." The standard meter sets the standard. What would it mean to say that it is inaccurately measured? It is what sets the standard of perfection. On the other hand, we can say that the cloth was inaccurately measured.
>>919225
I'm 18 fagget, My uncles are both physically fit and have MHRs of around 195
Also my rhr was 32 when I was fittest, my mum has a rhr of 55 and she isn't fit in the slightest, literally just genetics. Also when I was 13 my MHR was 204 as well, 5 years w/o decline.
>>920873
should've added that they're both in their late 40s
>>914063
>Actually a bikefag
>see thread about racing fredbikes
Ayy lmao,this board has been taken over from n00b s whomever been banned from (any cycle forum ever)
>>920873
Weird you're an outlier in both then.
Last year when I was 19 in one of my Kin classes I did a max HR test and reached 179, with a resting HR around 55-60. I guess genes plays a large role.
>>920878
Oohh, everyone stop and look at this ACTUAL BIKEFAG
