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Euro train looks like a dildo. American train is a beefy mother fucker that doesn't take shit from anyone.
Difference spotted.
Americans came up with the passenger set trains. Check out The Burlington Zephyr and the Union Pacific Little Zip.
>>789667
And yet europoors never got any Little Joes.
You may have electric locomotives now but you'll never have the ones that matter.
>visit at northern europe
>fastest train is like acela express
just posting a bloody locomotive
Why are these threads so full of implications :(.
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>>789684
thats badass as fuck
i would ride that train
>>789672
Matter for what? We just don't need those
>>789667
The US equivalent of the Transrapid would be >>781310
hay guise
>>789719
>tfw when winter arrives
>shit its night train regards driver
>after oulu, speed 120km/h
>see sumting brown
>not_sure_of.jpg
>HOLY SHIT IT'S A MOOSE
>>789688
Pretty sweet but that train is even nicer when pulled by an FM Train Master.
>>789846
And even nicer when they were pulled by GS-4's and MT class 4-8-2's. Can't find my photo's of it though.
>>789667
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>>789667
Europe is tiny and has a shit freight network.
Hey, americans! How does it feel that a crapped country like spain, like, beats your railway system in every aspect?
>>789991
>blue stripe on that last train
Man, that's an old picture.
>>790007
That's the only interesting looking American train, everything else is just a box
>>789991
love those AVE trains but i don't understand luggage checks. is crime so bad in spain???
>>790065
No, but it was made for riches, so I guess they though it was necessary even if it's completely useless. It's about pretending.
Keep in mind that AVE is a loss-making loss-making made from public money.
>>789667
Burger King is British...
>>789667
The one on the left looks like a Swedish prostate massager.
The one on the right burns dead dinosaurs for power.
>>>789667 (OP)
>Burger King is British...
brah:
"Burger King... headquartered in unincorporated Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. The company began in 1953 as Insta-Burger King, a Jacksonville, Florida-based restaurant chain."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King
You must be thinking of Wimpy
>>789991
Every aspect? Yea our passenger trains are running on outdated infrastructure. But our freight trains are unbeatable. An average train can be over a mile long and carry millions of tons of cargo while using very little fuel. Meanwhile European trains average 20-40 cars. So before you start to spread your bias, keep in mind each system has its own advantages.
>>790129
Ahhh, what the fuck. I'm stupid. I was really hoping America didn't own that, but afraid to fact check because I knew, deep down in my heart of hearts, that only America could do something as gross as Burger King. Fuck.
>>790130
>millions of tons
No. Loaded coal train is about 24,000 tons. Which is a lot, but not "millions of tons."
>>789991
You're a fucking moron. HSR across the US makes no sense. We're too busy making tons of money on freight rail and having the world's best airport system.
>>790162
Honestly the only really viable places for HSR are the Eastern Seaboard, The Chicago area, California and the Texas Triangle.
>>789890
I have the Lego version of that train
>>790167
Some of these places have decent light rail systems anyway.
>>790162
>HSR across the US makes no sense
is dat sum strawman?
A common retard tactic is to deliberately misinterpret the discussion to be about having HSR from coast to coast across continental USA
Totally and utterly ignoring the obvious use in the major regions
Because they are a retard and cannot argue properly
>>790238
>lightrail
>streetcars on the road/row used to get around inside a city and its inner-burbs
>used for high speed intercity transit
are you stoned?
also
>decent system
>a single short route in the downtown
lel
>>790240
>>790167
>>790162
Behold!
Your new God.
>>790240
You're the one who made a sweeping generalization and HSR without being specific. You have nobody to blame but yourself.
>>790045
>He doesn't love him some Geeps.
Fuck you too, nigga'!
>>790240
we don't need high speed intercity transit, we have aeroplanes and a big country. why train when plane?
>>790240
Show me the $100+ billion needed to upgrade Acela to true HSR.
>>790167
>Texas Triangle
>implying Texan voters would ever approve such a scheme
>>790263
If we got 100 billion a year for cavemen in afghanistan we got 100 billion for HSR.
>>789991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZywILevyps
:^)
>>790249
>its your fault I can't think
>>790256
1) take that straw cock out of your mouth
2) for journeys of a few hundred miles HSR could do it in an hour or two, it would be more comfortable than driving and a lot more continent and efficient than flying
>>793904
They have no say.
>>794254
Stay mad, friend. You made a generalization about America and refused to even hint at any regional specificity.
>>794169
And they just built another route with the same shitty system that failed previously on vid related.Fuck the government,they said it was completely safe.
>>789667
Okay, so a self propelled computer mouse versus the sexiest, most robust series of diesel locomotives ever built. Not to mention that they have been retired from mainline service for decades, so the comparison isn't exactly valid.
>>794261
>You didn't explain every little detail for me because I can't figure it for myself because I have no common sense and have no knowledge of HSR capabilities
>>794259
Sup authoritarian.
![new_acela_6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w7RRSx9.jpg "new_acela_6[1].jpg")
Everyone forget about Acela?
>>789672
little joes are communist propaganda. I don't support any commie transportation in my country.
>>797190
Well the good news for you is that none of them are in active service anymore. A capitalist conspiracy killed them off.
>>797187
>average speed: 65mph
yeah that's shite.
>>797187
Hi little bro!
>>797194
It is capable of true HSR speeds. the problem is it isn't on its own grade made for HSR. There are also too many stops in places.
>>797370
then we will have the California HSR which will fail miserably. Putting HSR rail projects in America back decades.
Hopefully the drought will collapse the California economy and the HSR won't get built.
>>797373
I don't think it will fail. If anything California will keep pouring money in it until it does work. The East coast is more or less sane when it comes to transit.
>>797429
>drought depopulates southern Central Valley
>lol we'll still build a HSR line from Fresno to Bakersfield though
No.
>>797270
in addition, several places of the Acela line have the tracks spaced too close together to allow for it's tilting systems to be used
>>797270
Unless it's 1 stop every 5km, 1 stop every 20-30 km is still fine if you didn't have such horrific acceleration from an outdated design. A bunch of these little things power trains that pick up people every 5-10 minutes in the countryside and get up to speed almost as quickly as regular commuter trains while maintaining an average speed of well over 100km/h
>>797431
HSR is habbening, Union Pacific are backing it because it means they can get free money to upgrade Tehachapi pass. Also, HSR goes hand in hand with SF Peninsula Cal-Train upgrades (4x tracks, no more grade crossings, electrification) of which construction has already begun (signalling system installation began last year, construction proper starts next year).
Anyway, HSR is going to happen, if only because they built the fucking Salesforce Tower (Transbay Terminal) and it'd probably be embarrassing if there was no HSR in it. Now whether or not people use it is another question entirely but at least one end of the system, SF, is willing to go all the way with it.
So essentially, you have all the state's dotcom money and UP willing to pay for it, along with the federal government (thanks obama).
And the CV depopulating is good for HSR, because it means less lawsuits over building new track.
>>797574
Regulations. The standard Shinkansen design has zero crash implements and would fall afoul. Likewise it isn't heavy enough
Also one of largest passenger loading gauges in the world, the only bigger one is india afaik
It could've still performed quite well if it was a pure TGV, but when it's been castrated you get what you get. It has all of the drawbacks of the TGV like high axle loads, locomotives and low acceleration but none of the benefits like articulation and high speed, especially when it's not even allowed to tilt half of the time
>>797476
You have any links to articles about UPRR backing for HSR? Everything I've heard is that they're against it.
The best train in North America is Amtrak Cascades. With upgrades (slowly) coming, it will be even better. Not exactly HSR but the view is great and it's very comfy.
>>797737
Honestly the best thing Amtrak can do with their long distance trains is make them as comfortable as possible and upgrade what tracks they have.
>>797738
Cascades is a corridor service between Vancouver, Seattle and Portland. It's paid mostly by Washington State and Oregon DOTs. They have a long list of funded upgrades they're working on, including some stretches of 110mph track. It should cut the time between Seattle and Portland down to about 2 hours with trains departing about every hour.
>>797476
I don't understand why we pay billions of dollars to upgrade private infrastructure and then pay tons of money again to use it. No wonder Warren Buffet bought BNSF after bankrolling Obama's campaign.
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>>789890
Today I saw this NOHAB with Santa Fe painting
>>789991
Trains are for poor people. It's one step above a bus.
>>797737
Such a shame that you won't get that view in a couple years.
>>797741
>It should cut the time between Seattle and Portland down to about 2 hours with trains departing about every hour.
Maybe 30 years from now. As long as they have to run on UP and BNSF track, they will never get anywhere close to 110. Even the Point Defiance bypass will only knock 10 minutes off the trip.
>>797752
Someone put it out of its misery.
>>797187
The Acela in essence brought back what the Metroliner was originally supposed to do.
>>797795
USAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
>>798453
>mfw filename
We don't need trains. Every one can have his own
So suck it up Euro.
>>798599
Nice arrival angle, faggot.
>>797609
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/29/local/la-me-bullet-train-20111029
Most of the scruples were resolved, UP's biggest gripe, that they'd have to slow some of their freight operations, were more or less made up for because now the CA HSR will straight up just pay for track upgrades on UPs lines, essentially meaning that UP just got a huge subsidy from the state government for cooperating. Most upgrades are down in Techapchi Pass, because it's a bottleneck. If you check the latest HSR reports, UP backs it now, hence why the first phase of HSR construction is being done down in Fresno and Bakersfield, because that's the part of the line UP is the most anal retentive about here. Also, UP has been using the HSR program to lobby Richmond in the bay area and LA down south to let them expand their yards.
>>797746
Historically speaking it's always been like that, in the end roads are only built if someone can make money. Same for railroads, which had their construction in the nineteenth century heavily subsidized by uncle sam. At the end of it though, we get HSR, which is pretty cool and UP gets the government to pay for upgrades they're too cheap to do themselves. It's a win-win situation. HSR was going to cost a lot of money no matter what, but at least it's going to happen.
>>797853
>Maybe 30 years from now. As long as they have to run on UP and BNSF track, they will never get anywhere close to 110. Even the Point Defiance bypass will only knock 10 minutes off the trip.
at some point they'll pull a California and just pay off UP and BNSF to let them expand passenger service, one of the reasons HSR was even able to beat all it's lawsuits was because Sacramento paid for a new UP freight line south of Donner Pass
>>798599
California has urbanized enough to the point where it makes sense for passenger rail now. The HSR is apart of a larger initiative started by Brown to kill tract housing, and rebuild cities around their old CBDs.
>>798453
>bus rider detected
>>797575
Supposedly Amtrak is getting some sort of special permission for the Acela successor to be exempt from some of those crash implements. And that it will be an EMU.
>>798745
>And that it will be an EMU.
"kek"
>>798626
>The HSR is apart of a larger initiative started by Brown to kill tract housing, and rebuild cities around their old CBDs.
Is the drought also part of Brown's initiative of killing California's Central Valley so much that a HSR is no longer even relevant?
>>789667
If hsr doesn't have the cargo capacity of regular lines, I don't see the use of it. There are only a handful of cities in the us where not having a car is feasible because we have shit public transportation. Dumping people into these cities that have shit public trans faster won't help. Cart before the horse.
New Hakutaka says hi
>>798453
>I-75 through Atlanta
>any time of the day
I drove through that shit at 3am and was bumper to bumper still. God damn go home people. Shit, get some sleep.
>>794272
The train derailed on a track with the old system, which is only used for low speed trains
>>789991
Not high-speed Spanish raíl is crap. Old trains, a couple of services/day, closed lines...
Yes, I'm a spaniard
>>803412
Not spaniard but lived in Spain most my life. Absolutely second this. Ít's actually really pathetic how billions are being spent on HSR while conventional rail is utter crap.
Don't forget these.
>>805292
Sorry, already forgotten.
>>805292
the schweeb combines all the worst elements of personal rapid transit systems
>too much infrastructure for a low to medium density area
>not enough capacity for a high density area
>bottlenecks
>endless development of new routes to cope
with the problem of bike share
>units accumulate in single location(s) requiring them to be redistributed
>>789667
Oh you silly OP, posting the abandoned Transrapid for Europa (when the only commercial operation is actually happening on a short track in China) and the long retired diesel for 'Murrica - just spread the h8 m8...
>meanwhile
>>806084
Poland?
>>809693
>There's a signpost for Bratislava
I'm going to go for Slovakia
>>806084
I'd love to show this to the commenters on videos of trains street running in the US who go 'Gee only in the assbackwards US amirite?'
>>809751
Wien (Vienna) is on the sign too, as well as Olumouc, a smaller city in the czech republic. Its a sign for a highway ramp, so simple triangulation lands us somewhere in between those cities in the czech republic.
>>802866
the HSR was never going to stop in the CV anyway
also, the CV depopulates into the big cities, causing them to urbanize further
>>809939
>the HSR was never going to stop in the CV anyway
It wasn't going to stop in Fresno and Bakersfield? Is that why they are building stations in those two cities?
Fucktard.
>>809693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNvJUAHUZ8
Brno in Czechia it seems.
>>809751
> >Bumper to bumper at 3am
>How the fuck is that possible?
murcans love cars and all aspects of car culture. it's no surprise they would celebrate their freedom by throwing a car freedom party, even at 3 AM
>>809956
>euros jelly they aren't invited
>>814085
>Implying you want to be stuck there at 3am and not going anywhere, hence lacking the freedom to go whereever you want
>>802992
....and that is why I do my best to find whetever the hell I need outside 285 as best I can.
>>809955
>dat street running
>dat thick smoke coming from the stack
This would be banned in USA.
>>805334
Having to use a ride filled to the brim with poop, syringes and homeless people because there are so many individual units to clean.
>>789754
On a serious note I don't think maglev trains ever will take off outside marketing tricks like airport feeders. Glorious Nippon might connect Tokyo and Kyoto with it but I doubt it will be much faster than conventional high speed trains to justify the cost.
>>825367
45 minutes to Nagoya. Just over an hour to Osaka
Basically half the time for a few reasons
The short section between Tokyo and Shinagawa doesn't exist because it's going to start at Shinagawa
No reduced speed to Yokohama
No 170km/h section at Atami
Acceleration that leaves even commuter trains behind
I think it's going to shape things to come, but possibly to the detriment of Nagoya, Kyoto and Osaka because they're going to turn into feeders for Tokyo, much like how the Joetsu and Nagano Shinkansen are now. Just get the employers to pay for (rather expensive) Commuter Passes
>>825383
Japan can be so successful at HSR because the entire country is the same size as California with 3x the population of the latter.
>>789668
You jelly of our superior tunnel dildos? Your tunnel dildo probably needs lube, ours are smooth enough to just glide right through.
>>789667
> 03/20/15
who bumped this thread? goddamnit
>>830276
Cry about it.
>>798599
>look mom im trolling
>>802992
Atlanta and LA are categorically the worst American cities.
>>833571
All American cities are equally worst.
>>790256
because peak oil means planes will become more expensive,....
>>798599
>everyone can have his own
>implying everyone can have his own
>implying insurance and other fees arent assrape
>implying everyone can get a license
>implying everyone can KEEP a license
>implying it's a good idea to go into the center of crowded cities with those things at times
>>789672
There he is again.
In Europe, freight is shipped on highways and people move via rail.
>>837062
Playing purely devils advocate, pretty much everyone in the US can afford a car. Even illegals drive around in $1000 shitbox minivans without licenses or registration. Insurance rates drop once you hit 25, exactly when most people are out of college and looking to start families.
Just look at the facts, over 90% of Americans have a car and use it for daily commuting.
>>841145
Wait are you saying close to 10% of americans don't have a car?
How is this possible?
>>841165
Officially, 95% do. Which means to say, 16,000,000 don't own cars. That number may seem high, but given that there are about 38,000,000 retirees collecting SSA checks, it's about right if you assume that only people on hospice and deranged people don't own cars.
>>841165
10% of americans stand around in front of schools and sell crack all day.
>>841165
http://www.umtri.umich.edu/what-were-doing/news/hitchin-ride-fewer-americans-have-their-own-vehicle
well at least 10% of households, cars are cheap to run to be honest if you know what you're doing
>>841172
>>841165
>>841145
>implying statistics are facts
The fact that anyone thinks they can accurately measure something dealing with countrywide populous boggles my mind
Do you sit there and count every head with a car?
Because I think that you just do a bit of math based on bogus functions and formulas. Not only are statistics are guesswork at best, but by the time the figures leave the math geek's head, it gets handed down to agenda-pushing Company PR officials and then to news media AND THEN through blog posters.
By the time a stat is passed through all these filters it is even more bogus. Unless you travel the country and count every head, statistics this broad are always pure bullshit.
>>794272
why dont they curve and bank train tracks like some city roads? that would prevent toppling right?
>>841179
>I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, so clearly professional statisticians don't either
This is the same mentality of all those people who pushed "Unskewed Polls" and got BTFO by Nate Silver.
>>798599
Anyone who drives this abomination must have a really small dick
>>841184
It's called track cant. The main issues are slow and tall trains tipping over due to other unforeseen issues and collisions (even though the centre difference is often made large enough to account for it, it just tends to happen on its own) between trains passing each others once you get a large enough angle. Otherwise, the cant is also maintenance heavy, especially on conventional ballasted track as you have to keep watch on it
Otherwise, you have the issue of rail wear as the track experiences greater forces if you want to maintain the speed. That's why the preference is simply for larger curves first
As an aside, there are also tilting trains but the forces aren't so different to the train. The speed enhancements are gained from passenger comfort as they feel the forces going into the floor (but the train will not stick all the forces perfectly downwards so it is no substitute for cant)
>>841975
Actually nope.
>>790045
but so are all euro shit trains, those are literally either boxers or dildos.
>>841980
>Today I saw this NOHAB with Santa Fe painting
bullshit, its called super elevation, it exists, and it does help prevent tipping over. however it doesnt tip as drastically as roads.
>>846347
Not to the chugga chugga big box level of ugly ass modern US locos
>>789991
The Spanish railway system makes the SNCF look like JRE.
Who the fuck thought building an HSR corridor along a chain of villages was a good idea?
>>847536
You build rail, it causes the areas around stations to grow, been proven many times.
>>847579
Sure but they've hit saturation. They have bigger network then the French despite having a much lower population.
They would need millions of people to move into Spain in order to justify the several lines that serve mostly farmland and tiny villages.
>>847520
>American trains
>ugly
Notice how the average euro train is a blue and yellow box.
>>847632
American locos are designed very well
>>847536
Fucknuts that conned the EU into bankrolling them for years then refused to pay.
See also Greece.
>>789667
SEIG HIEL!!!
>>847700
Heil Hitler!
>>847702
>driver posing for photo at 200kph
>>789667
>european trains transport jews to the ovens
>american trains transport goods
thats why theyll always be yuropoors
>>790130
A small country doesn't require railfreight. A big country does, but it also requires passenger no less than a small country.
>>797187
>medium speed rail
Neat.
>>802929
you forgot to focus
Yuro trains:
>buffer and chain couplers
American trains:
>Janney couplers
that's really all you need to know tbh
>>854617
Not even true...
>>790162
NO! FUCK YOU! AMERICA NEEDS TO BECOME JAPAN SO I CAN BE A CUTE ANIME GIRL IRL! WE NEED HSR
>>790162
>world's best airport system
Just no
>>854897
That's true though.
High-speed alone makes no sense. It works if integrated in a public transport system. That's what they do right in Europe an Japan.
>>862674
But you don't solve big problems by claiming that they have to be entirely solved simultaneously everywhere. Piecemeal is to be expected. Partial solutions are to be expected.
HSR will probably encourage communities to improve their public transport to connect with it, especially if the HSR links are frequent and reliable. Should that be all they do? No! But you gotta start somewhere, and the HSR at least gives some kind of incentive.
>>862735
Nice dream. Unfortunately HSR does not do this. High speed trains are like aeroplanes on rails. If HSR trains stop in stations which are well integrated in public transport it draws more customers to public transport. Stations which are not only draw car traffic.
>>862674
High speed rail makes sense if it connects nodes that make it viable. It doesn't have to be perfect to be viable, just for enough people to make it worthwhile. It doesn't have to be for everyone. That can come later.
>>863545
>aeroplanes on rails
Exactly. That's why a good HSR line is designed to replace a busy short to medium haul air corridor, ideally dipping through the very airports involved.
This not only affords the line an instant customer base, but frees up capacity from the busy airports. The airports also get a good connector to their respective downtowns.
>>798453
10/10 filename
European supremacy.
>>863630
>It doesn't have to be perfect to be viable, just for enough people to make it worthwhile.
It also changes people's behaviour and land usage patterns. It's not immediate, but it's a significant effect. It's part of why you don't try to recoup the investment in 5 or 10 years: the payoff is much longer.
![OEBB_railjet-bei-voller-Fahrt_Foto-oebb.at_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AkVKzgQ.jpg "OEBB_railjet-bei-voller-Fahrt_Foto-oebb.at_[1].jpg")
>>847702
GUTEN TAG
>>789672
>still having locomotives
>>865799
>still having locomotives
Milwaukee Road sure doesn't have any locomotives anymore.
>>854897
no airport system comes even close to USA's
>>865072
theres no driver
>>866025
>theres no driver
notice the red lights. that means its driving in the other direction
>>864829
Nice meme
The AGV is a flop selled only a few to some Italians.
If you want to see supremacy look at siemens. They sold velaros to eurostar causing extreme butthurt in France
>>865072
God i hate this shit. Crappy seats and almost no room for your legs. Everytime I go to Vienna i use the Eurocity because I can't stand the Railshit
>>789667
>>burgers for america, fruit and wine for europe
O really...? Those doners are greasy as fuck mate, dont kid yourselves
>>866015
;_;
>>866368
That reminds me of something the french side of the tunnel did many years ago, related to the e320 incident. Just to keep control of the place, they pretty much instilled the notion that only breakable loco hauled trains were permitted so as to keep things like the ICE3 out, even to the extent that the IRIS 320 and La Poste weren't permitted to run under electricity through it
Have the french given up trying to cockblock it yet? Last I read a court case went down
I can get the concept behind the AGV though. It's the first high speed fully articulated train. But it suffers from shorter cars, high axle loads and the requirement for specialised maintenance facilities. Oh and it's alstom oc which nobody really asked for before they made it
>>866368
I still wonder why the SNCF hasn't bought a few of those yet.
>>866585
A few places point to the possibility of them wanting a double decker model. Although nothing has really materialised in the past 5 years
The other thing is a matter of need. Maybe once the PSEs start rusting then they'll think about it
>>866586
All of the Atlantique liveries are rusting, they are 30 y/o or nearby.. they really should at least try the single decker livery just to see.
>>866369
just like the airplane, it should go fast not meant to be comfortable. I know that, i would also use the ICE or the Eurocity but i wanna go fast.
Yuropoor trains are full of terrorists and need US Marines to make them safe.
>>866585
The difference between them is just half an hour between Salzburg and Vienna. Not worth it imho.
>>790085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King
>Founded in Jacksonville, Florida
>Headquartered in Miami Dade, Florida
>>866798
Owned by Whitbread from the late 90s to mid 00s.
>>866817
Just because your mom fucks black guys doesn't make her black too.
>>866835
It's the reason why people think it's English...
>>866025
>Americans in charge of cabs
>>865072
>Siemens
Fucking overpriced garbage meme control systems
>>868524
>Fucking overpriced garbage meme control systems
Could you elaborate please?
or is it public transport vs. cars?
Europe is as large as the US. Especially in eastern Europe you can find regions with extremely outdated infrastructure.
Here in Latvia we still use Soviet trains...
>>868597
He's probably the another Finnish foamer.
They tried to automate the new western section of Helsinki metro and failed spectacularly. Cost overruns and time table slips threatening to push back the opening date, in the end the Helsinki transit authority pulled the plug and gave the job for a small local subcontractor which will deliver a traditional, simple-as-a-lever block signalling system to get the trains running in time for opening. Also, a big middle-finger for Siemens.
Siemens blamed to original stock trains for being too hard to make reliable nough and compliant. That's bad, given these trains are otherwise in good shape for several decades till. Very timeless design, even, excep you know being bright orange.
>>873518
Google for "silesian interurbans".
That's not, that's liberec. The Silesian interurbans still have a few bosnian gauge lines, even. I don't know how long, they have cancelled routes heavily in the past, but I hope the core routes in standard gauge will survive to something kind of like OEG in Mannheim region.
>>873530
We too.
>y.t. >>873531
>>873533
And they have this big brass plate on their side, as an assurance of quality, of course.
>>873534
Why would it be in English? And why would it say USSR instead of CCCP?
>>873539
It's ussr in English
CCcp is in Cyrillic
This is what a real train should look like.
And carriages should have painted chipboard walls ("canteen green" or faded red) and curtains and seats so big they could be used in a casting couch schene.
>>873539
I've wondered that, but that's what it says on them. Why isn't "Made in China" in Chinese?
Two units don't have that, they were bought from Novocherkask locomotive factory after the soviet union collapsed. One was a some sort of reject body alone, another bought even later was the prototype unit stored 30 years outside, because you know soviets. Didn't matter, VR machine shops had the capacity back then to produce every part needed.
This also means that the first unit ever made was taken into service last. If technicalities are to be bent, it is also the last unit to to be manufactured; naturally it carries the maker's plate of "VR Hyvinkää machine shops" :-)
>>789667
>comparing a passenger train to a freight train
TRIGGERED
>>873720
>EMD F unit
>Freight train.
Shit, son...
>>873790
F3s and F7s were frequently used in passenger operations on most major railroads. Just because they were technically intended for freight service doesn't mean they were used exclusively in that role.
in Europe you got also locomotives used for both roles
>>877300
And also both directions (dual cabs).
>>880014
Of course. Saves a lot of screwing around at termini, allows you to get the train out again in under 5 minutes even at a busy station. Even with the best couplers and operations in the world, you won't get that sort of turnaround time if you're having to take the engine off one end and stick it on the other.
>>880058
>5 minutes
Too slow!
>>880161
Looks pretty good tbh. Finnish trains are best Yuro trains.
>>880161
I don't think we can quite compete with the Germans and Nordics, they are just so good. Still, some national pride justified here, official seal of breddy good.
What we would need would be more double track, several important routes don't get the frequency they deserve currently. Also, the factory that has made those steering carriage was just sold to Skoda, which you know is also a big payer in rail business. Hands crossed if they decide to gut the company or if they develop its pruduct lines.
>>789668
What fucking dildos do you use son?
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>>789667
Found the original WP pic in the OP.
>>877300
Yeah, it's an interesting quirk of industrialization that the U.S. mostly has freight trains as the kings of the rail, and extensive personal transport with cars.
Well that, or Detroit and Henry Ford using their position as serious titans of industry and "job providers" (and substantial lobbying, lets not be coy) to, at every turn, lobby for infrastructure that was car friendly. They twisted the entire development of the most productive and dynamic industrial power towards selling their own product irrespective of what was practical or socially wise.
You know, for money.
But then Ford hired Pinkerton men and later mobsters to break up strikes and had a deal with the Chicago mob to leave him and his family alone no matter what, in exchange for giving wiseguys books on paper they just showed up to collect pay checks for.
(he was terrified of kidnapping given the lindburgh affair, maybe justifiably.)
So mass transit is with cars that generate significant pollution, come at considerable expense, and ironically, are no longer the sole purview of domestic production, but are by and large, made by foreign companies or multinational corporations. (which seem to fuck everyone but the stockholders and CEOS of the company wherever they go, no matter what they say, and use the reward of their business like a debutante leading suitors around like the nose with her charms)
>>789685
Nice. Sweden?
>>884681
that's nice, i like it.
>>883479
top fucking kek idk why i laughed so hard at this
>2015
>Europe still uses steam in mainline freight operations
Embarrassing tbh.
>>893044
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>>883479
kek of da week
had a nice chuckle
>>821683
M8. U srs?
