Old thread is gone but had a decent following, so let's have another! What sort of diesels do you think Alco would be putting out if they were around today? What if GE had decided not to end their partnership?
>>904248
If ALCo was still around they would still be competing in the horsepower race with GE and EMD, they came out with 3000 and 3600 HP models at the same time or earlier than their competitors. They would also probably be the most penalized by the new emissions regulations since they visually seemed to be the worst polluters with their thick black "ALCo smoke." The "Century" styling probably would have lasted in new models the same way that the SD40-45 styling lasted for decades, so you'd probably see a C636-2 model at some point. If GE had stayed partnered with ALCo they probably would have done better with their reliability issues, although their diesel engines often provided more headaches to their users than their traction motors.
What killed ALCo was the inability to expand their export market during the 1960s. If they had been able to expand that market they would have had a solid base to continue domestic production. Also they had insufficient maintenance and repair infrastructure compared with the availability of GE and EMD service centers. This made ALCos the most expensive locomotives on any railroad's roster to operate and maintain and led to the early retirement of many of the company's later models.
>>904248
Also, the C-636 is one of my favorite locomotives, it's a shame the demonstrator units gave such poor performances when they were tested on various railroads. Santa Fe probably would have bought some if they had given a good demonstration while the company tested them.
>>904297
The 244 was unreliable in road service from what I hear, but the 251 was a vast improvement. What about the earlier 6-cyl diesel though, used on the DL-109s? How well did those work?
>>904303
Alco units are rare enough, why did a railway suddenly decide to scrap two of the very few C636s left, just this year?!
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>>904630
Source? I was under the impression that Delaware Lackawanna owns the last operating C636 in existence and there are photos of it in operation from this September.
>>904661
No subscription so can't see full article, but first sentence says "Two former Alco C636 demonstrators are in the process of being scrapped in Cohocton." http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2015/01/0113-alco
>>904984
Well that sucks, considering those demo units were some of the most well-traveled units in the fleet. The good news is that D-L 3642 is in working condition and will likely be maintained for the foreseeable future, the bad news is that it is literally the last of it's kind.
Here's one of the recently scrapped units while it was owned by Morrison-Knudsen.
most overrated piece of shit ever
>>905036
Well they stopped production before they could get the 251 engine
Thoughts on the DL-109?
Did this a few months ago.
Love these locomotives in this paint scheme.
Love the C-415s, too bad they were mostly garbage.
MERRY ALCO CHRISTMAS
>>904297
ALCO engine is GE FDL in production still for export market
Replaced by EVO in 2005
Emissions could still be met bet would need catalytic converter
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Kaiser Steel Alco T6 #1022
>>912331
I remember Trainz 2006 introducing me to this C636
>>905849
Wish I could draw. I have shit for talent.
CONRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL
FAIRBANKS MORSE FUCK ALL
![MK_5403[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TZhbMxH.jpg "MK_5403[1].jpg")
Love those big Centuries
![sp_c628_entering-ogden_may-1965_kingsford-X2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fcAN0g1.jpg "sp_c628_entering-ogden_may-1965_kingsford-X2[1].jpg")
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>>950225
Why don't you contribute instead of being a faggot?
This thread needs more 1st gen alco
>>953391
I love the look of the T6.
![pc6308[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Iv3JGAZ.jpg "pc6308[1].jpg")
>>953391
>>956866
>tfw some of the few remaining C636s got scrapped withing the last 5 years
>>924762
As long as it's not EMD or (non-Alco-partner) GE
Another victim of government meddling
>>966701
Nice
