I think this is the worst thing I've ever heard
it should be rather titled The Shape of Shitty Metalcore and Nu Metal to Come
>>63903285
The Slaughter of the Soul of post-hardcore
>>63903285
0/10
>>63903323
I've put off listening to this album for years because of the things I've heard about it and their earlier releases are bad enough that I don't think I really want to
>>63903614
that's about what I'd give it pretty much no joke
this shit is literally worse than like linkin park or something because of all the pseudo-intellectual bullshit they put on the album that is just straight up offensive
disturbed at least admit their music is stupid, this is just as dumb but ultra pretentious at the same time what the fuck
all the music from different genres they put on the album sounds like shit for their respective genres and the rock parts sound like limp bizkit gone post-hardcore
garbage
SAW THIS IN A SHOP WITH "THIS FUCKING ROCKS" STICKER ON IT SO TOOK IT TO COUNTER AND SLAMMED IT DOWN AND SHOUTED AT DUDE WORKING THERE "HOW MUCH?" WHEN HE ANSWERED I SAID "NOT THE PRICE DILLWEED, HOW MUCH DOES IT ROCK?" DILWEED'S ANSWER IS LIKE SHRUG, "I dunno, a lot?" WHICH WINDS ME UP 'COS HE'S BEING A PUSSY ABOUT IT AND I SAY "I WANT IT TO ROCK MY SOCKS CLEAN OFF MY FEET, IS IT GONNA DO THAT?" AND HE'S ALL LIKE, "Yeah it will." SO I'M LIKE, "YEAH I'LL TAKE IT."
GET IT HOME AND PUT IT ON, TURNING IT UP AND SOME GUY STARTS TALKING TO HIS 'BABY' ABOUT FASHION AND I START THINKING 'WHAT KIND OF NANCY BULLSHIT HAVE I GOT INTO HERE?' BUT THEN SOME NOISE STARTS HUMMING AND I START THINKING 'WHAT KIND OF NOISE RUBBISH HAVE I GOT MYSELF INTO HERE?' AND THEN AFTER A MINUTE OF GETTING ANGRY COS I GOT BURNED INTO BUYING SOME ARTSY RUBBISH THE BAND KICK IN ALL JABBING RIFFS AND YELLING TIL THEY'RE HORSE AND I GO WILD, SMASHING UP THE ROOM WITH PART ANGER AND PART HXXXXX JOY. MAN, THERE'S LIKE A PIT GOING IN MY LIVING ROOM AND IT'S JUST ME AND I'M TEARING INTO SHIT AND THE CURTAINS ARE FALLING DOWN AND MOM'S YELLING FROM HER BED BUT I PRETEND LIKE I DON'T HEAR HER CRIES COS I'M GOING APE SHIT ROCKING OUT AND BEING ALL HXXXXXXCORE AND SHIT.
BUT SOON I'M GETTING ANGRY AGAIN COS, YEAH, THEY KNOW HOW TO ROCK OUT THESE BOYS DO, SO WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS WHY THEY GOTTA KEEP INTERRUPTING MY SLAM DANCING WITH SOME TECHNO BULLSHIT OR SOME QUIET BITS AND EVEN, GET THIS, A VIOLIN!! I MEAN, I'M THERE ROCKING OUT LIKE I KNOW HOW AND THEN THERE'S THIS FUCKING VIOLIN, AND YEAH, IT'S PLAYING A QUALITY BIT OF A TUNE, BUT WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF SOME OF MY CREW WALKED IN AT THAT MOMENT AND SAW ME ALL SWEATY AND BLEEDING AND LISTENING TO A FUCKING VIOLIN??? I'D HAVE TO KILL MYSELF OR ALL OF THEM AS THE SHAME OF IT ALL WOULD BE TOO MUCH.
SO IT WAS TOO STOP STARTY AND ONE MINUTE I WAS SLAMMIN' ROUND THE LIVING ROOM WITH MOMMA HOLLERING AT ME TO TURN IT OFF AND BRING HER HER MEDICATION AND THE NEXT MINUTE THEY'RE SINGING WITH NO DISTORTION ON THE GUITARS OR DOING SOME JAZZ OR SOME SHIT, SO I MARCHED BACK TO THE SHOP AND SLAM THE CD DOWN IN FRONT OF THAT SAME WUSSY MOFO AND SAY "MY SOCKS ARE LIKE STILL ON DUDE!" AND HE SIGHS AND TAKES IT FROM ME WITH NO QUESTIONS AND SAYS, "you wanna swap it for something else or do you want cash?" SO I WAS ALL LIKE, "CASH OF COURSE, I AIN'T BUYING FROM A SHOP THAT HAS STICKERS SAYING 'THIS ROCKS' ON STUFF THAT DOESN'T."
SO HE SAYS, "you didn't like it too much then, I didn't think you would." AND I SAID "WHAT THE FUCK'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? I LIKE SOME OF IT, THEY JUST NEED TO KEEP IT INTENSE ALL THE WAY THROUGH NOT JUST WHEN IT SUITS THEM." AND HE SAYS, ALL COCKY LIKE "well, Refused made this album to move the hardcore scene on as they thought that it was stagnating and lacking ideas and made for people like you who were all about an image and a particular lifestyle rather than open mindedness and expression. They did it, I think, but sadly there will always be people like you who were left behind. I mean, does it get much better than when they come back in after the jazz section on "Deadly Rhythm"? That bit sounds like a brutal attack, it's insane! Or, or the violin intro to "Tannhäuser"? When those drums come in it's epic, really groundbreaking for a hardcore record. But, if you didn't like it....."
I BARELY GIVE THE GUY TIME TO OPEN THE TILL BEFORE I LIFT IT RIGHT UP FROM THE COUNTER PULLING ALL THE WIRES OUT WITH IT AND CRACK IT OVER HIS HEAD THE PRICK. THEN I PUT IT THROUGH THE WINDOW AND KNOCK OVER A COUPLE OF SHELVES WORTH OF CD'S BEFORE STAMPING ON THE GUY'S HEAD AND LEGGING IT. AS I LEFT I HEARD HIM SHOUT "Philistine!" I'M GONNA GO HOME AND LOOK THAT FUCKING WORD UP TO WORK OUT WHETHER THAT LITTLE QUEER HAS GOT ANOTHER VISIT COMING OR NOT.
>>63903882
I actually think your opinion is ridiculous. I think refused was pretty overrated but it's not nearly as sonically offensive as nu metal. It's a fairly cool assortment of influences including in my opinion the whole AmRep lineage of stuff like Today is the Day and Unsane that I hear creeping in there, along with the ambient and edm shit.
The results weren't as incredible or groundbreaking as the band or its fans wanted to pretend, but a solid effort.
I agree that the marxist stuff is cringey as fuck but it's not going to make fairly solid instrumentation sound like fucking disturbed.
>>63903937
>>63903912
quality pasta
>>63903912
pretty good. ending needs a bit work
>>63904417
I get the same kinda feeling from music as from disturbed you know? it's the same kinda "epic", unsubtle, forceful-on-the-ears playing with the exact same guitar tones I swear
it's like I imagine they expected me to actually ROCK OUT and FEEL THE MUSIC MAN while listening to it ugh
they're not exactly mcdonalds but they are the direct precursor to all the fast food existing today, the root of all evil that some people may deem as revolutionary and offering quality meals but mcdonalds at least calls itself fast food and gives you tables on calories that show how unhealthy this shit is and refused conceal all of this by decorating themselves like a restaurant and hiring waiters but actually are no less awful but more, even worse because of this trickery
extended metaphor but I think it works here
CANNED ICE CREAM?
>>63903285
I think this album is one of the greatest things I've ever heard, so with that being said, if you post your decided meeting place (anywhere in the continental U.S. is fine) I will literally fly to meet you there so I can kick your ass.
what the fuck is going on this thread?
>>63903912
>>63903937
>this review on rym has voer 400 favorites
How can you dislike this album? It's so much goddamn fun. And the closing tracks are fucking incredible.
Everything about this album is just ridiculously stupid in the best ways. The lyrics are a middle schooler's Marxist poetry screamed in broken English, the guitars, bass, and drums sound like someone shit in their cereal. While many post-hardcore bands are inspired by other kinds of music, or use instruments typically unheardin rock such as Polvo's use of Eastern styles or use of the clarinet by Fugazi, Refused takes it to a new level, incorporating several techno interludes, a track that opens with two minutes of violin, jazzy double bass interludes, and melodica throughout.
The album feels like a parody of the genre and a celebration of it, a piece of politically overcharged punk music and a deconstruction of it with intense rhythms and loud hardcore riffs, with lyrics written with a tongue firmly planted in cheek. It's one of the most confusing albums to listen to, and one of the most simple and enjoyable.
>>63903912
>>63903937
oh man this takes me back
this better be forgotten than remembered for song isn't bad!
really though it just makes me want to go listen to Black Cobra or something.
>>63907470
As someone that loves this album and rates it as one of my favourite "rock" records, I kinda agree.
The politics are pure sixth form, the genre mashups are pretty cheesy and they straight up stole The Nation of Ulysses' style. But man if it isn't a bold and exhilarating listen. I saw them live a couple of weeks ago and they absolutely killed it.
