here we discuss the greatest musician of this decade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYIIbgYtFs4
when will she be depressed enough again for us to have halfaxa II?
i hope she will not become depressed again. and i don't think she will ever return to the style of halfaxa
degenerate waifu fags
>>66476824
rude and unnecessary comment
>>66476822
>>66476879
these
is she secretly training hana to replace her on stage??
>>66476791
>>66476822
She is good a channeling emotion, so whatever the state of mind it'll be interesting to hear.
>>66476824
READ THE FUCKING RULES YOU AND OTHER FUCKERS
>>66477054
i would like to see another happier album that is as inaccessible as Halfaxa
>>66477130
I don't think it's going to happen. It will be more like Visions or Art Angels or something totally different. Halfaxa and Geidi Primes are things in the past, she evolved since then.
>>66476963
No. Grimes just needs an additional musician. She should let Hana plays all synths and samplers while she's singing and dancing.
>>66477280
delet this
>>66477352
Why? I meant only during her live shows, not in studio.
holly herndon > grimes
>>66477407
When Holly will be a decent songwriter, producer and vocalist, then she will be fit to be compared to Grimes. Until then, she keeps churning wankery & soulless techno for hipsters.
>>66477610
its like you just pulled the first three musical related words out of a hat. she is a good vocalist, an amazing producer and her songwriting isn't conventional and lacks development, but is still more inventive than grimes' pop formula.
> she keeps churning wankery & soulless techno for hipsters.
ah, this smacks of "i've never actually experienced techno". an audience and their choices or anything doesn't really affect the music in itself, its just a way for you to feel better about having a different opinion. but its cool, this is all just my opinion too.
>>66477761
>but is still more inventive than grimes' pop formula.
Unfortunately she's not. Grimes is endlessly exciting, Holly is so boring in comparision. Holly may be too avantgarde for the masses, but Grimes has the right balance between pop and experimental.
Grimes makes the worst music in today's world. I want all of you faggots to go back to plebbit and stay there.
>>66477761
>ah, this smacks of "i've never actually experienced techno". an audience and their choices or anything doesn't really affect the music in itself, its just a way for you to feel better about having a different opinion. but its cool, this is all just my opinion too.
There's good techno and bad techno. Holly is on the latter category. Listen to some good techno like Orbital, Daniel Avery and Underworld, not that soulless and dull "music".
>>66477860
...said the biggest pleb on this planet. Your opinions are not facts.
>>66476791
I'm pretty sure 80% of "grimesfags" are just being ironic and only defend her as a way of fucking with people.
>>66477949
>being this delusional
You may have a surprise. There's no room for irony when it comes to Grimes. Her music is legit likeable.
>>66477896
Actually kill yourself.
>>66478010
Actually you first.
She literally made an entire career out of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-GCjT_HrLI
>>66478059
Found the ledditor
Oh wait, this whole thread
>>66478102
Nope. Not only that tune is too obscure (it doesn't appear on an official Cocteau Twins studio album), but it doesn't even sound like Grimes. Their voices are slightly similar, but that's all.
Whispery vocals over a beat it's not something exclusive to CT.
>>66478225
>It doesn't even sound like Grimes
C'mon mate it even uses the same Kraftwerk-y synths. If I downloaded Visions and it came with that song in it I wouldn't be able to distinguish.
>>66478297
Fucking abysmal skank
I want her to get fucking electrocuted
>>66478328
wow... that is such a horrible thing to say about someone. you need help.
>>66478282
>C'mon mate it even uses the same Kraftwerk-y synths. If I downloaded Visions and it came with that song in it I wouldn't be able to distinguish.
I would be able to distinguish it. As I said, whispery vocals over a beat it's not something exclusive to CT. You could say that every rock band made an entire career out The Beatles for example; that wouldn't be true.
Inspiration? Maybe (she's a CT fan). Ripping off? No way.
>>66478372
spotted tumblr
>tfw she's almost 30
>>66478156
Wouldn't that include you?
stop fucking spamming her
you're going to get her threads deleted again
>>66478328
Joke's on you she already did and she survived
Why people think it's spam? is just a thread talking about the only musician that worth talking about. Like, look around, she's so many levels ahead
how big are you guys' grimes folders?
mine:
>539 mb
>1371 files
I think she changed her mind about her being called cute:
>G: It is, but I’ve kind of given up on it. When people say, 'Ohhh, Grimes is so cute and girly,’ I’m just like, 'Whatever. That’s what you want. I’ll just be that if that’s what you want me to be in your mind. I’m not going to fight that.’ It’s like the most first-world problem ever.
http://grimes-claireboucher.tumblr.com/post/140857883740/grimes-the-happy-reader-winter-2015
>>66479446
>1,42 GB
>>66479446
1.5 GB, 3000 files
Got most of it from Reddit tho. It includes GIFs and WEBMs which are pretty large.
>>66479480
but she is CUTE
>>66479446
28.5 mb
I posted it some threads ago
though I'm not less obsessed because of it being that small, it's just that I don't save many pics
G: And the fashion is amazing. I mean, in Star Wars, Natalie Portman’s character Amidala is a complete rip-off of full Mongolian. I’m really interested in reading about military leaders in general. If you can convince people to die for you, how do you do that? That’s really interesting to me. When you end up being in a position like I am, where suddenly you have the ability to manipulate large groups of people at once, it’s very stressful, so I’ve spent a lot of time researching other people in this position.
A: And what have you figured out?
G: You can’t use complex arguments. The face-value level has to be there, even in terms of how you hold yourself. I always watch videos of politicians giving speeches. They make eye contact. If you do that kind of thing, that’s the best way to grab an audience. It’s drastically changed my show. It’s made it a lot better. Feigning confidence is the number one important thing. Never express weakness. It goes badly every time. And every time I do, it’s a headline: 'Grimes Says She’s Not Good at This Thing.’ If I do a self-deprecating joke, that just translates to huge drama on the internet. There’s no way to translate that. You have to do it in the most dumbed-down possible way.
How could you not love her?
Do you guys think she shaves down there?
She's way cleverer than you think...
G: Instead of being like, 'Pandas are endangered!’ you have to be like, 'It’s World Panda Day! Let’s celebrate. There are only four hundred left.’ You have to spin everything into something that feels positive. Semiotics are really important. Visuals are really important. Instagram is so much more effective. Words can be taken out of context, but a picture is a picture. Think about a lot of the great leaders– or not necessarily great, but powerful. They always had really extreme aesthetics. Genghis Khan. Mussolini. I’m not pro-fascist, but people really respond to aesthetics. I’ve done these sociological tests where I try different hair colours. Blue and purple hair gets the most likes on Instagram. It’s almost double the likes that it is for blonde, brown or pink. I find it very interesting that you can directly measure what kind of visuals people respond to.
A: I wonder what that means. Is it that people just like blue hair better?
G: I’ve noticed that people often gravitate toward things that are less flattering. Candid pictures often get more likes than if I did a photo shoot in a magazine. That’s not always the case, but often less sexy, less pretty things do better. I think people respond better to things that walk that middle ground. Every time I dress like a guy or anything androgynous, people love that. I don’t know, the bro-ier I present myself, the better the response.
A: As you notice what people respond to, are you also thinking about how to communicate most effectively through all these channels?
G: That’s something I keep trying to work on. Instead of just trying to shove my possibly extreme or caustic ideas down people’s throats, maybe there’s a way to manipulate them through these things that people seem to like or respond to the most.
>>66479603
that's really inappropriate. her personal body hygiene and shaving habits are none of your business
She has a point:
G: Production is the most bro-y field that I’ve ever tried to work in. It’s terribly, terribly inhospitable to women. It feels like the 1920s. I studied science in school. I have four brothers. My whole life I’ve been in bro-y situations. But female music production is something we hear so little of– female producers that are not collaborating with male producers. There’s Kate Bush. And Sinéad O'Connor produced her own first album. I cannot think of a lot of other examples. Take co-producers out of the equation. To actually just have a solo female voice, no male engineers in the room, no male co-producers, I can count the examples on one hand. Why is that the case? Why is this specific medium so inhospitable to women? There’s very little music that doesn’t involve men at some point in the chain. Meanwhile, my album is being mixed and probably mastered by a guy. Even playing shows, all sound guys are men. There are so many barriers for women to do anything besides singing in this medium, and music is such a big part of the culture.
G: When my music first started coming out, I never ever wore make-up. I felt so bad about all the negative comments. Every time there would be a picture of me, everyone would be like, 'She’s so gross.’ And I started wearing make-up in my shows, which I wouldn’t have done before. You have to be typically beautiful in some way to be in the media, I think, even for your own sanity. I read this interview with Lauryn Hill a while back, and she was like, 'One of the reasons I dropped out is because I was so tired of wearing make-up when I went to the store, because otherwise I’d see a picture of me in People magazine and I’d feel really bad.’ Why should she have to think about that?
>>66479593
>>66479640
so she's just trying to manipulate her audience? for what purpose?
>>66479640
>>66479811
>>66479855
she's spot on.
HNNNNNNG
such a babe
>>66479970
>>66480020
she looks so soft desu i want to rest my head on her chest
is jay worthy the best rapper of our generation?
>>66480636
what is he looking at
>>66480636
i've never actually heard him rap except in christmas song II.
got any links?
>>66480707
her forehead
>>66480884
it's a really nice forehead!
friendly reminder that androgynous grimes is best grimes
>>66480636
that's clearly a a picture of ethan and hila klein
reminder that grimes isn't even that good, and you're all pathetic, obsessive waifufags in denial
>>66481017
You're in denial. You just didn't experience her wonderful music yet. I'm serious about this.
>>66481097
>You just didn't experience her wonderful music yet
i've experienced her music plenty of times and it is not that good. mediocre at best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZzD5o9K_A
an anon linked this interview on another thread, I find her extremely honest and comfortable here, and she talked about one of my doubts (pain and its relationship with good art), though I don't know if I agree with her, now I know what she thinks about it
>>66481331
I'm that Anon. Here's another one (can't remember where I came across the unlisted links.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k30KnPHMZHY
>>66481331
>>66481507
these are great. thanks for posting.
any other interview recommendations?
This "be nice to grimes" meme shit is so played out. Fucking idiots.
>>66482193
>being a good human being is played out
>there are people unironically not losing their mental health over Grimeth
>>66482180
>CB: [Laughs] Everyone calls us hipsters, and we decided we’re not really hipsters. We were trying to decide where we fit in the spectrum of sub-genres, and we kind of concluded that we’re surrealist yuppies, because we’re really into mainstream pop music and hi-fi things and catchy things and making things awesome. We’re into working really hard and eating healthy food and exercising, and we’re also really into psychedelic experimentation and being weird. Obviously doing weird things with our music.
>A surrealist yuppie is a type of person who's between the hipsters and the mainstream, who's still doing creative things, but isn’t disdainful of mainstream success. Just because something is engineered by a bunch of guys in suits doesn’t make in necessarily bad. We think PSY is the king of the surrealist yuppies because he's really rich and successful. He writes songs for pop stars, but he's also a total weirdo and clearly very intelligent and talented. He’s doing interesting and subversive things in the context of pop music. He’s the most successful surrealist yuppie that we know.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2012-10-04/surrealist-yuppie-grimes/
rec me a non-grimes album, /grimes/, thank you
>>66484121
why would you want to listen to non-grimes music?
>>66484121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UfiIOXP8A
New Mexico by Oppenheimer Analysis (1982) One of the most beautiful collections of vintage new wave synth songs about Cold War paranoia disguised as love songs you'll ever hear.
>>66484158
I've listened to her music too much and don't find it as pleasurable, mostly to Visions.
Halfaxa and Geidi Primes are more for specific states of mind which I'm not in right now, and I don't like Art Angels that much though I listened to it a lot
>>66484208
k I'll listen
>>66484121
the money store
>>66484121
the cure - pornography
>>66484279
listened to it already, my thing with death grips is that I mostly like (like really like) their most known songs, and the others not so much
>>66484429
k
>ywn make sweet love to Grimes
why live?
>>66484606
she looks like her skin would be smooth and soft like silicon, and yet still retain a fleshiness to it.
>>66479446
>21.2 GB
maybe i have a problem..
>>66484760
wow...just wow
screenshot?
>>66484760
im spooked
>>66484816
>>66484886
it's mostly videos which take up tons of space
>>66484760
Dude.... I'll send you a pendriver
where can I get a degree in finding rare grimes stuff
it's the only thing I feel like doing
>>66484969
everything i have is on youtube or blogs etc
>>66484997
just go to random websites and put in chairmandore or something
>>66485030
not working
How old do you guys think she were when she lost her virginity?
>>66485730
Her first was during her gangbang phase. Everyone thinks having sex is this sacred thing but really it's not, it's just underrated positivity we should embrace.
>>66485730
18
>>66485730
isn't she pure?
>>66485730
I'd say 50
>>66482193
at least be nice to grimes fans who can only imagine her as a swallower.
>>66480947
that neck is so sexy tho.
>>66476822
It's so easy to prey on the people who demand positivity, it's like they want display their weakness and be taken advantage of.
>>66486048
They do. Seldom should be challenged. The intent is flattering, really.
>>66477949
The world would be a better place with more paid critics. It's not selling out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rihk7_2BVw
how many lives Grimes ruined so far?
>>66485756
There is literally no positive need in finding several partners, it's very much teenage behavior.
>>66480176
pure sex.
>>66476791
Am I looking at the greatest musician to ever be underrated?
>>66486311
Aren't they just ruining their own lives? entrusting themselves completely and all that..
>>66486419
Sex is overrated, she however is not.
>Grimes don't want her image to be associated with her music
>fans like geidi primes and halfaxa music more than AA
>hur dur stupid fans AA is way better because I am fashion icon and pop superstar now
is she clinically retarded?
>it's a GRIMES gives JAMES a pep talk telling him to be genuine when suddenly her diarrhoea rears its ugly tail soaking into her custom white miniskirt as she contemplates going on stage with it epidose
>>66486311
literally none
>>66486649
vegan shit is always hard , because lots of indigestible parts in veggies and they sit in entrails for ages.
t. M.sc of Poo in loo in Bombay tech university
>>66486707
what about lovefist?
>>66486716
that's if their claimed veganism is not just a front for wanting to be admired and being a trend setter.
>>66486832
Are you implying that Claire is not mentally ill?
>>66486895
she's crazy lady
>>66480020
would like to fuck her from behind like that
>>66478842
30 is the new 20
>>66479862
All people desire power. Some give up. Some succeed. She probably simply wants to influence people, change the world, etc.
Systems tend to "want" to maintain and spread themselves. Art is a way to propagate a specific sensibility. We all try to mold our surroundings, influence people, etc.
Right now I am trying to spread these thoughts to you. You might resist them.
>>66487529
this desu senpai
To think how suicidal and depressed she was here. Glad to see she's still with us
>>66480020
Is Grimes Christian?
I hate to see her disrespect the religion with that tattoo if she wasn't.
>>66487933
>>66487967
Wow, I hope she went to confession for that or I literally can't support her anymore
>>66487933
That's not an actual tattoo anon
>>66487933
>>66487996
>caring about religion
>>66488057
>he doesn't have a strong set of morals that guides him to be a better person
>>66488057
>someone lives his/her life in a different way than I do
>wow what a fucking loser lmao
Simply reddit
>>66488070
anyone can have a strong set of morals without being religious
>>66488075
uhm... you mean 4chan?
>>66487967
wtf i hate grimes now?
>>66488087
>anyone can have a strong set of morals without being religious
Simply not true. You may have a moral code but mostly likely that code was adopted from a religion. Also, what keeps you from following that code? Mmmm?
>>66488087
Nah, people here from what I've seen don't really care about how others live their lives, unless they're trying to be edgy. Reddit is a neckbeard paradise fully of the latter category
>>66488111
law, isn't that obvious?
>>66488112
how do you know that someone's not trying to be edgy?
also,
>>66487933
>>66487996
>someone lives his/her life in a different way than I do
>wow what a fucking loser lmao
>>66488153
The law is your moral guide? Do you go outside and make fun of old people and cripples just because it's legal?
>>66488175
So you're not being edgy when you criticize others' ways of life? Then you're just a shitty human being.
>>66488182
I meant that law and social opinion make me to be a good person. there lots of atheistic who are not bad
>>66488202
there's no logic in your post
when will hammer anon destroy this fucking disgusting troll bitch
jesus murphy is she so goddamn dumb
bottom ass gross waifu, pajeet tier desu
>>66488223
All right, the way I said it wasn't quite right.
You can criticize someone who has committed atrocities, say a rapist or a murderer, and not be edgy or a indecent human being yourself.
When you criticize someone who isn't affecting anyone negatively for their way of life, it's either because you're trying to be edgy or because you're a legitimately shitty person.
>>66488245
Grimes will crush hammer guy like every other manlet she meet her way.
>>66488277
The first one who started to criticize someone is that guy:
>>66487933
>>66487996
I would ask why didnt you reply to him, but I'm sure it's you.
Post places you'd take Claire on a date to
>>66488279
I can't believe grimes had the nerve to claim rape in her shitty ass song
as if anyone could keep a hard on long enough to stick her disgusting ass
what a a fucking phony bitch
>>66488326
>>66488334
is there any song that she talks about being raped?
if I was a psycho, I would rape her, I mean.... she's pretty rapeable
>>66488313
It's not me, I was going through the pages and only saw your post so I posted the >someone lives his/her life in a different way thing
It applies to him to, I just saw yours first. I don't usually go through Grimes threads
>>66488326
So she could also drown as well
>>66488334
it's impossible to shag without being in love with her, you will not penetrate
>>66488360
bunch of buttholes on here try to say oblivion is about her getting it
sounds wicked made up though that would have to be one thirsty ass dude to do grimes
>>66488362
Then you'd better read the full chain of messages before say something
>>66488393
>implying you wouldn't fuck her if she asked you to
>>66488393
>would have to be one thirsty ass dude to do grimes
What you mean? She's a very attractive girl, really easy to fall in love with, I don't get your point...
>>66488417
>someone else was a dick so that gives me a pass to be a dick
That's not how it works bud
>>66488423
the stench and hepatitis c alone would be a major turn off but if you're into hobgoblins okay
>>66488423
I would drink her piss if she asked :^/
>>66488441
i didn't mean that, i just noticed that it also applies to him, you dumbass
>>66488393
>that would have to be one thirsty ass dude to do grimes
does she have a crush on aphex?
>>66488461
And I agreed with you. What point are you trying to make here?
>>66488423
I would be her sexual slave, if she asked, actually I would do anything
>>66488490
i just gave you advice how to not look like a samefag
so..
you guys like her music?
>>66488520
what?
>>66488479
I think she admires him.
GOSH, if I was Richard I would use it as a advantage
>>66488537
she makes music
>>66488520
yeah I think she has some great tunes but I just wish she wasn't an insufferable cunt and a complete dumbass
>>66488545
AA is a top 5 album of the decade
>>66488569
AA is a top 5 meme of the decade
fify
wow this thread really took a turn for the worst. why can't you haters just ignore the thread?
>>66488393
>that would have to be one thirsty ass dude to do grimes
are you on fucking meth?
>>66488450
I've met her in person, can confirm she does not smell bad.
>>66488621
grimes is so fantastic that even manure would smell like spring flowers next to her :^)
>>66476791
Generally speaking, Grimes is only capable of being attractive when viewed from an angle other than head-on. Her nose is very unattractive from the direct front, however it looks okay when observed from the side. Also, her ears stick out from her head in a manner somewhat similar to a chimp, another reason why her direct front is not her good side.
>>66488621
I would have to fight myself to not act in a creep way if I ever met her. I would like to just hug her and feel how she snells like
>>66488665
I would hit her harder than 21 pilots hit the wtc
grimes is honestly just poppy electronic trash. face it plebs
>>66488716
But anon, there were only 19 pilots on 9/11, you're missing 2
>>66488716
there were only 19 though
>>66488729
this plebe
ok i'm all for encouraging ugly girls to feel proud and all that shit but when dumbass grimes starts taking photos like this >>66488472 thinking she looks good then that's going too far
how do you think she'll feel when she realizes how stupid and retarded she looks?
>>66488729
is there something wrong with inherently wrong with poppy electronic music?
>>66488744
are we? ;^)
>>66488716
>pretty much, this
I never had a music related crush, but when it comes about Grimes, it hits me hard deep in the feels
>>66488766
Yes there is. It's talentless and completely unoriginal. Also, fact is that making music on a computer is fucking easy compared to anything made with a real instrument.
>>66488749
>>66488744
here they are
>>66488765
>>66488765
>>66488765
>ok i'm all for encouraging ugly girls to feel proud and shit
>demeans a girl for trying to feel proud
make up your mind
>>66488795
damn...
>>66488795
holy shit
did they plan that?
>>66488793
> Also, fact is that making music on a computer is fucking easy compared to anything made with a real instrument
I believe you are trying to pull my leg but why would it matter if its easier or not
>>66488795
DUUUDE
Someone should give her a trophy of the best artist of the decade already imo
>>66488795
what a great board
>>66488908
Fuuuuuck that face is hot as fuck
>>66488795
HOLY SHIT
>>66488919
no it's completely generic
What happened betwen Brooke Candy and Claire? they don't hang around no more....
Do you think that the same will happen about Hana?
>>66488908
are you fucking kidding?
>>66488946
>her face is generic
holy fuck I know as a hipster you have to hate mainstream stuff but seriously how is a face generic?
she's just weird for the sake of being weird. there's no meaning behind it.
>>66488973
because it's not ugly like mines
>>66488953
The same is happening, Broke Candy used to appear on her music videos and live performances aswell
>>66488949
She looks like she just got done showing James what dat mouth do
>>66489129
>James
>tfw no james bf to extinguish cigarettes onto
>>66476791
the other day in a previous GRIMES thread, op put a link in to a podcast featuring GRIMES anyone have that link or know what the site was?
>>66489129
more like an exec from her record company or some 6/10 in the crowd
she also looks strung the fuck out
>>66479640
>>66479855
lol what a pathetic person.
>>66487967
did any of james' semen drip out?
>>66488765
>stupid and retarded
Go to bed Ariel
alotta people think she used to trade blowjobs for baseball cards in some dank part of the high school but that is patently untrue, it was pokemon cards.
>>66489346
delet
>>66488908
I knew was she the best before I even heard any of her songs, on interviews alone she is the best by way of being most honest.
>>66479603
james plucks them out with his teeth
>>66479640
what interview is this from?
>>66489361
Claire at her best is pic related, now she just shell of herself trying to please everybody
>>66489490
There is nothing she (or any other woman) can't do, even acting is within her realm now.
>>66484687
anyone else find this comment creepy. like the anon collects skin or something
>>66489950
That is an accurate description of the skin around her neck, I imagine it has been squeezed many a time in the height of her crying pleasure.
>>66487933
shes said in interviews she doesnt believe in god but likes catholic iconography and shit anyway
>>66489490
Everyone cashes in on their reputation at some point, it's not like she didn't warn her fans by telling them to love pop idols no matter what they do.
>>66490008
why do i keep seeing posts like this
>>66490017
she is a typical symbol slut like most hipsters, I suppose.
>>66490046
I think it's as nice as they can be.
>>66490058
what is your logic?
>>66490087
If they want to appear nice then that is how they are, who I am to say otherwise?
>>66490132
why would you rather merit this over good people? you're enabling this, like you want it
>>66489604
stop posting Bartek k?
>>66490168
Sex is severely underrated by the androgynous community and I think it deserves more attention there. I plan on having sex one day myself and I need others to believe what I do.
>>66490210
sex is about sharing trust with people, you lose that trust in people and yourself if you choose to give it away to just anybody, especially with an escalating number of people
>>66490270
People think that but it's actually about surprising others and surpassing their expectations at every turn, even if they find it uncomfortable at first, the more people your body reaches the better the world is.
>nasty assholes talk about nasty things on the wrong board in the wrong thread
>>66490350
I forgot a comma, so yeah
>>66490292
this is perverting them, compensating for that intimacy that should be found with an individual. people persue sexual activity when they're not involved with someone. it's this open isolation that causes disorders in people and causes them to find negative outlets like committing crimes and doing bad things to themselves, like taking drugs. i dont see how this is improving the world.
Post lewds
>>66490425
Sex brings more people together, more pleasure in the world makes it better place.
It's not like sex is a gateway drug to murder but even if someone claims it is like that I would just suggest their disorder could be triggered by anything but they are choosing to blame things they don't want other people to enjoy out of spite.
I want to smell her feet
>>66490453
do you actually think lewds of claire exist on someones hard drive somewhere in the world?
>>66490489
theres a difference between nudes and lewds senpai
>>66490489
hunnid percent.
>>66490532
ha ha ha is this humor
>>66490460
it's this need to find partners that leads people astray, i would identify it as negative and link it with other things. i have no agenda to project anything im just rationalizing human behavior out of deep concern.
WARNING: extremely lewd