>Scaruffi's greatest albums of all time
>Being this contrarian
>velvet underground
>contrarian
okok
>>66402991
>faust
>popol vih
>nico
>royal trux
>john fahey
>BEEFHEART
>>66403107
Don't see what's so contrarian about Fahey
>>66402972
Thats a great list and probably better than yours.
By the way, whats your list of best albums of all time, OP?
>>66403107
Beefheart is pretty universally recognized as one of the greatest album. If anything it's pretty conformist of him to make them the best.
>>66403107
>More Fucking Noise Rock by Noise Rock Band #230
>greatest of all time
>>66403213
1. Pet Sounds
2. VU&N
3. Sgt. Pepper
4. Master of Reality
5. The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady
6. Straight Outta Compton
7. Neu!
8. Here's the Sex Pistols
9. In The Court o The Crimson King
10. Loveless
That list isn't even that bad.
Scaruffi has much worse opinions
>>66402972
>The Doors
WHY
>>66403298
Like why are there age limits
>>66403291
>5. The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady
>6. Straight Outta Compton
>Rock
Uhhhhh
My objective GOAT List: Rock and roll edition
1. Ramones
2. Elvis Presley
3. VU&N
4. Marquee Moon
5. Daydream Nation
6. Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
7. Sgt Pepper's
8. Freak Out!
9. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
>>66403283
which one of those in the post you quoted is that?
not seeing it.
>>66403426
royal trux
>>66403414
>Marquee Moon
>Listenable
scarufficore is still the GOAT top ten desu
>>66403414
absolute garbage opinion mate
>>66403316
>dislikes the doors
the fuck?
>>66403493
Well make your own list if mine's so bad
>>66403488
FACT
>>66403445
did you ever listen to twin infinitives?
sure it's noisy as fuck but it's p far from your usual noise rock, and if parts of it are noise rock, still a lot of it is not.
it's like the dead c was collabing with some twee bluesband and their shit was falling apart or something
if you're going by the rym tags then whatever
>>66403502
>likes the Doors
Why do you like them? I always found the Doors boring and unlistenably pretentious and macho.
>>66403524
Oh shit didn't notice that it was twin infinitives
Thought he ranked their s/t
I'll have to listen to twin infinitives sometime
>>66403575
yeah you should, i find it pretty trash but it's an unique thing
>>66403512
THAT
>>66403539
>macho
...Why is that a problem for you?
>>66403771
It's not bad, but it just gets kind of grating that Morrison's persona feels kind of annoyingly assholish and forced.
>>66403414
Breakdown of why I think this
>Ramones
In my opinion, Ramones is one of the greatest achievements in the history of pop and rock music. Everybody knows the story that the Ramones killed the excesses of prog rock with their fast, edgy rock and roll, but the reality and subtlety of their music is more complex than that.
The Ramones on their debut are the Ramones in their purest form. They strip away all the musical and lyrical excess of modern rock, leaving it naked. They're stupid, but ironically so. It's a great artistic achievement because it is the ultimate exercise in deconstruction. Feelings aren't expressed, they're shouted and beaten into your head. There's no musical variety. "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend" is almost embarrassingly straightforward and honest. So Ramones is truly the only rock and roll album you *need* to hear, because everything common to all rock is here. It simultaneously celebrates and satirizes rock in the most pleasurable and purely fun way it can.
>>66403690
STATUTORY
>>66404001
Yeah no one cares about your dumb opinion
>>66403107
generally the best and more popular albums by those artists anyway
>>66403372
To scaruffi it is
>Best Rock Albums
1. Pelt - Ayahuasca
2. Orthrelm - OV
3. Doldrums - Acupuncture
4. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
5. Einstürzende Neubauten - Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T.
6. This Heat - This Heat
7. Swans - Cop
8. Don Caballero - Don Caballero 2
9.Missing Foundation - Missing Foundation
10. The Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder?
>Best Jazz Albums
1. Evan Parker - The Topography of the Lungs
2. George Lewis - Chicago Slow Dance
3. Paul Bley - Improvisie
4. Taj-Mahal Travellers - July 15, 1972
5. Derek Bailey - Solo Guitar
6. Evan Parker - Saxophone Solos
7. Art Ensemble of Chicago - People In Sorrow
8. Alexander von Schlippenbach - Globe Unity
9. Cecil Taylor - Silent Tongues
10. Roscoe Mitchell - Sound
>Best Classical Works
1. Morton Feldman - String Quartet 2
2. Gérard Grisey - Jour, Contre-Jour
3. Karlheinz Stockhausen - Aus den Sieben Tagen
4. Elliott Carter - A Symphony of Three Orchestras
5. Morton Feldman - For Philip Guston
6. Louis Andriessen - De Tijd
7. György Ligeti - Requiem
8. Georg Friedrich Hass - Limited Approximations
9. Giacinto Scelsi - String Quartet No. 4
10. Tristan Murail - Time and Again
>>66404335
shitaste
>>66404335
Now this is contrarian
>>66404335
When will you start listening to music for your own enjoyment and to broaden your horizons and not just to impress some strangers on the internet?
>>66404335
poseur
>>66403107
the only contratian thing there is royal trux
you could make a case for popol vuh and nico as half-contrarian
>>66403291
>neu instead of faust
>>66404001
is this a new pasta?
>>66404743
Why is Royal Trux contrarian?
>>66405022
because it's been given no light by any other review and is only talked about in avant-teen circles
now compare that to TMR, which, while looks contrarian, has received countless words of praise by contemporary critics
im not saying royal trux is a good or a bad band, but saying it is in the top 10 albums is definitely contrarian
>>66404335
fptmiu
>>66403414
>Ramones
>Elvis
>Sex Pistols
>>66405083
Contrarian's more picking something people actively malign, or dissing something everyone loves for the sake of it. It's about consciously choosing to go against the grain. Saying the Beatles weren't innovative is Scaruffi being Contrarian, but picking an fairly unknown album isn't contrarian. It's a total hipster move, but not contrarian, because nobody was talking about it in the first place.
And Twin Infinitives is amazing.
>>66405162
>but picking an fairly unknown album isn't contrarian. It's a total hipster move, but not contrarian, because nobody was talking about it in the first place.
if we are talking about a music reviewer, it kinda is
and it's not like the album got 0 attention, other music critics have obviously listened to it and mainly thought it was "just decent"
id say putting an album like that in your top 10 is contrarian, though of course not nearly as contrarian as his beatles hate
>>66404335
WOAH YOU GO TO RYM TO??????!!!!!
>>66405209
scaruffi doesn't even hate the beatles though, he just thinks they are overrated. if you read the article on his site about them you would understand.
>>66404335
>needing attention this badly
>>66402972
>TMR
9/10
>Rock Bottom
10/10 Legitimately incredible
>Faust
7/10 kind of interesting
>VU/N
8/10 great especially for 1967
>The Doors
6/10 has two memorable songs on it
>Hosianna Mantra
8/10 great
>Modern Dance
5/10 kind of sucks tbfh senpai
>Twin Infinitives
10/10 one of the most dismal and dreary recordings ever
>Fare Forward Voyagers
9/10 really, really good
>Desert Shore
5/10 boring af lol.
>>66405234
Yeah, seriously. 6s and 7s aren't even bad and he gives two 7s to the Beatles
>>66405234
no i understand that very well, i agree with you wholeheartedly
ive read his whole review on the beatles a couple of times and he really doesn't hate the beatles
considering the beatles got two 7s that's seriously pretty good
>>66405209
>if we are talking about a music reviewer, it kinda is
That doesn't change anything. It would be contrarian if most people hated Royal Trux, like it's contrarian to hate the Beatles because everyone loves them. This is just picking an unknown album.
The essence of contrarianism is deliberately choosing the exact opposite of whatever the popular opinion is, and picking an unknown album isn't the opposite of popular opinion.
