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No Avant-teens allowed edition.
Hello friends and shitposting embryos, this is a thread for experimental music discussion. To clarify: Noise, drone, electroacoustic, free improvisation, futurism, indeterminacy, musique concrete, sound collage, and all that good stuff.
What have you been listening to? What have you been making? Movie and literature recommendations, concert experiences, gear, etc. are all welcome
i like joan manuel serrat
>I don't know what avant-teen means.png
good work, embryo
>this is a thread for experimental music discussion
>Movie and literature recommendations
i know that you're baiting but c'mon
Movie? Movie?! That's what hollywood makes dude. Movies sucks, i only watch films.
I listen to both without much though to the scene or identity around them
>>66357671
Switch John Coltrane and Swans
>>66357738
He's using the correct definition, embryo.
>>66357816
>He's
you're revealed by the poster count OP, lmao
pathetic fucking newfag
>>66357882
>grils
>on le 4chinz
>>66357882
"Someone has a different opinion then my retarded one, he must be a samefag!"
>>66357913
Do you know how the poster count works
>>66357913
>such a newfag that he doesn't even know about the thread poster counter and how it reveals newfags
sad!
>>66358024
Op here, there's 9 posters and 12 replies, I'm obviously not samefriending the whole thread up, but think that if you want it doesn't matter to me.
>>66358038
>how it reveals samefags*
fixed
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>>66358024
>Still at 9 replies.
Found the real samefag. Op is not the samefag, this random embryo is.
>Implying Nico and Julius Mememan are any more esoteric than Death Grips or Swans
Sit down, you're embarrassing yourself. You are purposely proving what a brainless stereotype you are, for trying to make music into a competition of what can be more niche. Using "experimental" as a blanket term for entire genres is ridiculous in itself.
Do everybody on this board a favor, and stop posting. It's overwhelmingly obvious how new you are.
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>>66358071
>two posts made at the exact moment the post cooldown ends
you really fucking suck at this lmao
you're such a lame retard, even your self-embarrassment is too beige and unremarkable to merit much attention
i'm bored with you now. bye.
>>66358099
>This avant-teen poseur getting assblasted this hard.
>>66358134
Are you referring to yourself?
>>66358133
Bye for now, see you again in 5 minutes when you're done taking out the trash for mommy.
>>66358150
>I know you are, but what am I!
Jeez, try to act at least slightly mature, I know it's hard to pretend but still.
Death grips
>>66358178
But you are the poseur here, correct? You are upset, correct? Again, when you're suggesting to act more mature, I think you're refering to yourself. No normal adult would behave like this, correct?
>>66358222
based on the Hungarian book?
>>66358224
All this butthurt over my posts.
>>66358222
I think it's not music related, and you should leave with the other poseurs.
>>66358264
You are assuming this, obviously. You know nothing about me.
>>66357671
I don't think I've ever heard anyone legitimately refer to MPP, TMS or The Seer as avant-garde.
>>66357671
"avant-adult"
>>66357671
>referring to some avant-teen albums as avant-adult to save face
I wonder who's dumber, the person who invented this damage control or the people falling for said damage control.
Where do I go from here in free improv?
Really liked the unsettling atmosphere of this
>>66358586
Death Grips
>>66358315
Sure thing, buddy.
>>66358438
You must be new here.
>>66358483
Yes, it's the correct term, what seems to be the problem?
>>66358492
The thread starter is actually correct though and is correcting you all for using the terms improperly.
If it's not art music it can't be experimental.
>>66358891
Most art music is not experimental, nice try.
>>66358891
"I like art music! Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, the list goes on!"
>>66358931
compared to popular music? of course it is. and almost everything listed in the OP is popular music, except maybe musique concrete but it depends on what kind. if you mean The Residents, Frank Zappa, Negativland, J Dilla, The Avalanches, then it's shit. however if you mean Stockhausen, Ianis Xenakis, and other composers like them it's good.
>>66358956
nice projecting. my favorite composers are Philip Glass and Stravinsky btw
Shoutout to the anon who told me /experimental/ was better than /noise/, you're a liar.
>>66359040
For real this shit sucks.
can u avant-fags rec me something similar to zs thank you
>>66358186
underrated post
>>66357694
mediterráneo is amazing senpai
>>66358981
Why do people like this exist
>>66359040
There's no difference between /experimental/ and /noise/.
The trajectories of both these threads are always identical.
Either it's
>thread is made
>a bunch of entry level shit gets posted
>thread dies with about a dozen posts made in it
or
>thread is made
>thread accumulates a couple of hundred posts of nothing but shitposting and autistic arguments
>thread dies
>>66359093
Check out this obscure band called Swans, they're just what you are looking for.
>>66358802
Okay, but that doesn't make avant adults any better than avant teens though. Both care more about muh experimentation than good music because they never have any real interaction with the real world forget actual living things.
>>66359531
You don't care about music either.
>>66359040
Maybe you could try to start improving it instead of whining like a bitch? But no, that would be too much effort, wouldn't it? Also /noise/ is pure shit. A bunch of no nothings that keep posting the same fucking albums over and over. At least on these threads there are occasionally albums discussed that nobody has discussed on /mu/ before, when the shitposting is at a minimum anyway.
>>66359610
t. Butthurt faggot who knows nothing about music so relies on surface tier experimentation
ITT: embryos
>>66359741
t. butthurt embryo who only cares about image and not actual music.
>>66359180
it has pure poetry
>>66357671
>Somebody actually using the Avant terms correctly
Never thought I would say this, but maybe /mu/ can be saved.
>>66359784
>accusing me of image while listening to avant garbage enough to make a thread on 4chan
Did I even mention how pathetic avant musician fans look? No. Well I guess I just did now. But their lack of knowing what music really is makes them the truly worse of the worse.
>>66359863
You really do only care about image, which is why you like a bunch of safe /mu/core entry level crap to fit in with your "friends" here.
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>>66359863
Found the butthurt Death grips, Swans, or Anco (or all three) fan.
>>66359917
>implying that not liking avant garbage means only liking /mu/core
Holy shit, you guys are just as "intellectual" as the music you claim to like.
>>66359996
Just because you like a few other groups that aren't /mu/core in a pathetic attempt to look open minded doesn't make you any less of a drone.
how the fuck is nico avant adult
>>66359739
>try to improve instead of bitch
I'm working on that in /noise/, tyvm
>a bunch of no nothings posting the same albums over & over
Haha maybe if you tried improving the general instead of bitching :)
There are times when threads are bad, but if you get at least a good thread occasionally, it makes the general worth it. You already realize that with /exp/ but somehow are blind to that with /noise/ because you're bitter over easily ignorable bullshit.
>>66360080
>Haha maybe if you tried improving the general instead of bitching :)
I do, but my posts are ignored by the drones that only care about the same few noise artists/ albums. I still try, though it's pretty pointless.
Lmfao at all the angry Swans, Dg, and Anco fans in this thread, you losers sure get offended when your /mu/ image is insulted by a person with superior intellect.
>>66360104
Then don't engage with them. I don't. You do you.
This is 4chan, this is /mu/, & nothing here is worth getting bitter over to the point where you constantly regurgitate your complaints. I acknowledge that you're right, that /noise/ has tons of problems, but the problems have been here since the start. Why is it now that you (& others) are so suddenly angry about it that its worth posting your grievances at every opportunity? I'm sincerely curious. I know you were a devoted poster & I want this heart to heart.
>>66360036
>implying you even know the proportion of the albums
Shit this ain't even a real argument. I guess one does have to make bullshit assumptions to enjoy such terrible excuses for music.
>>66360249
>implying you even know the proportion of the albums that aren't /mu/core
Not sure who you are trying to fool.
>>66360334
Nobody, I am not the one in denial here.
>>66360231
I don't' care that much, but it would be nice if there was a thread to discuss such music without all the trolls and people that post the same few artists/ albums over and over.
>>66360352
That's exactly what a person in denial would say.
>>66360381
Even more assumptions. That's all you can do, huh? I feel like a God trying to communicate to the dumbest ants with how stupid your mental gymnastics are.
>>66357671
I was listening to desu tho senpai by Lil "Yung" Jizza, you probably never heard of him :p
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>>66360231
if you still think there's hope for /noise/ you're pretty dumb desu
that general is beyond saving
>>66360414
>with how stupid your mental gymnastics are
Not sure why you are referring to yourself in third person, but whatever floats your Swans.
Glad somebody figured out a way to inject some vitality into these threads: shitposting
>>66360205
Came here to say this. Those posers are getting BTFO hard in this thread, it's amusing to read.
>>66360364
I agree, which is why I only engage the posters who have a clue. Thats the only reason I still stick around.
>>66360433
Its been worse when BRR was around, imo. People fall for the same shitposts if it has a new face.
>>66360433
Xernon keeps holding onto /noise/ as if being on the ground floor of that general was his only achievement in life.
>>66357671
>implying a single person on this board has ever called MMP "avant" unironically
>>66360629
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>>66360640
genuinely you're all retarded
4 people posted actual attempts at conversations
you're all so hung up on the "avant" label it's pathetic
>>66360864
I've said it before and I'll say it again: attempting to discuss "experimental" or avantgarde music in a place like 4chan is a terrible fucking idea.
>>66360604
I put a lot of love into this place, its no fun to watch it crash & burn. Its not about achievements, anon.
I don't care what kind of "avant" label you guys wanna slap on this, i just want something noisey and colorful like it.
please /mu/. i love you guys.
>>66361076
Is this poseurcore or sub-poseurcore? I know that it's all the rave with poseurs and mallgoths on this board.
>>66361192
DAMNIT
>>66361192
>mallgoth
People here don't like bands like Slipknot, HIM, or Korn, though.
>>66360864
Found the butt blasted Death Grips fan.
>>66361465
Your newfagness is showing.
Hey guys, wondering if you could recommend me some drone/noise/etc... bands. I don't know many of the genres, I enjoy Sunn O)) and Boris.
I'm looking for some somber, darker, noisier but still relaxing kinda music and I thought drone and noise would be the best genres to that.
>>66361876
Try some Death Grips.
Hey avant garde fans
Any Harry Partch nuts in here? Thoughts on micro tonality?
>>66361889
Can't seem to enjoy Death Grips, I've given them a try a couple of times, but I dunno, didn't liked them that much.
Either way, their sound is anything like what I'm looking for, it's not exactly relaxing.
>>66361926
micro tonality seems really interesting, but often I can't help hearing it just as a regular piece but with notes played slightly out of tune, rather than carving new tonal relations into my mind.
>>66361953
That's unfortunate. Have you ever heard Death Grips though?
>>66361876
https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=drone+metal&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=
here you go, i think it's drone metal you're looking for if you mentioned sunn o and boris
>>66357671
Holy fucking shit
Its now a meme to make up words like avant teen and say they've been phrases before
This really is the worst board
>>66362113
>literally the only thing he can do when someone asks for band recommendations is link them to RYM
Fucking lmao. Embryoooooooooooooooooooooooos.
stop the embryo meme its not funny
>>66362167
well obviously, i don't listen to drone metal but i wanted to help him out
>>66362219
the world would be a much nicer place if people didn't didn't involve themselves in things they had no clue about
>>66362248
i don't have "no clue", because i know he might find some albums he likes on the rym chart for the genre he's interested in
>>66362015
Yes. I did.
>>66362113
I was looking for specific recs from /mu/, but this is appreciated as well, might give a check on a few bands here.
>>66361720
Just because people use the term incorrectly here doesn't make it any better.
>>66362209
Been digging this a lot
