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Bad Herr Day edition.
Post about your favorite composers, conductors, performers, pieces, performance practices, etc.
>inb4 how do I into classical?
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https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
>tfw /classical/ reached post limit
>>66340648
>Bad Herr Day edition.
What the fuck am I supposed to post here?
>>66340753
>Post about your favorite composers, conductors, performers, pieces, performance practices, etc.
I just wanted an excuse to post that awful image desu
>>66340753
your hair
>>66340733
>GOAT Bartok
>great in Mozart
>GOAT Beethoven 9
>GOAT Verdi requiem
What else can this man do?
>>66340926
Too bad his Bartok is in unlistenable sound outside of the Piano Concerti
>>66341061
i dunno about that, his bluebeard is in stereo as well and in ok sound for the time (though it suffers from being in German).
didn't think the mono recordings sounded particularly bad. they just need better equalization probably.
>>66341061
This sounds pretty good.
>>66340926
He was GOAT in Beethoven overall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vZaS8DrjVk
Shame for the subpar sound
>>66340779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuERQ633iCU
No
>>66340733
Post Telemann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JswIpP7D3rU
Anyone have some good symphonies or concertos to listen to if you want to get into classical?
>>66342880
http://www.scaruffi.com/music/essentia.html
>>66342880
Why don't you read the OP you stupid dumbass?
>>66342895
I'm not sure if what he posted was more accessible for early listeners or more complex.
>>66342893
Thanks for the reply.
>>66342955
as a rule of thumb, apart from inclination, follow a more or less chronological order when listening, as it might help to hear what composers were incorporating and reacting against
Do you guys like Wagner? He's great.
>>66343050
pretty much the best, yeah
>>66343012
thanks for the tip, I will
Need romantic composers, already got Satie
>>66343144
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romantic-era_composers
>>66343182
But what ones are most enjoyed in this circle?
>>66343206
why do you care
>>66343247
Because demographically speaking we're pretty similar more likely than not, and that might mean that we enjoy the same stuff.
This way I'll have a sort of shortcut to finding stuff I like.
>>66343280
people disagree about everyone here
>>66343206
I personally would recommend you to pick either a random composer or go with the most famous ones. (Brahms, Chopin, Liszt, Schubert, Beethoven, Mahler, etc.) "This circle" will shit on everything. Except renaissance, but that's because the memers' taste isn't good enough.
If you want specific recs about a composer be sure to ask.
>>66343247
Just like a lot of people here enjoy Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1
>>66343325
Thank you
>>66343144
Listen to Mozart instead,
>>66343362
No problem.
>>66343392
Why
>>66343415
Mozart is pretty damn good.
>>66343433
Why
>>66343433
To question further, why is he so famous?
>>66343501
His competition was shit.
>>66343594
Care to elaborate or point me in the right direction?
>>66343501
Mozart's fame derives from the fact that he was a child prodigy and died at an early age. >>66343594
What about Haydn, J.C. Bach, Gluck, etc.?
>>66343456
To be honest, I cannot give you an accurate response as to why I consider Mozart's music so good, I am no musicologist. I just like pretty much everything about him. His orchestration is superb, his harmony is really good and his melodies are wonderfully captivating and lyric (at least to me).
>>66343671
That's something to consider.
I thought Bach was famous because he wrote The Well Tempered Clavier
>>66343705
J.C. Bach is one of J.S. Bach's sons.
J.S. Bach is famous for his fugues and contrapuntal works, mainly.
>>66343671
>Gluck
I want this "Gluck is a good composer" meme to die.
>>66343755
Do you listen to Bach? What're some of your favorite pieces?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9rZjlsyYY
Is my favorite, but it's all I've listened to from him. It is included in the end of the movie rollerball, and I associate it with the power of an dystopian elite.
>>66343830
>>66343798
Gluck is great though. Singlehandedly reformed opera and was a huge inspiration for Mozart, Weber and Wagner.
>>66343830
I don't really listen to Bach that much. I can tell you what I enjoy the most:
Goldberg Variations
Well-Tempered Clavier (Books I & II)
Six Partitas For Solo Keyboard
Toccata in C minor BWV 911
That I've heard that is really good:
Mass in B minor
The Art of Fugue
Six Cello suites
Six Partitas For Solo Violin
Most of his Cantatas
>>66343924
https://rbt.asia/mu/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=fuck+off+poly
>>66343012
No this is terrible advice. The harmonically heavy high Baroque is obviously not going to appeal to a beginner more than the simple melodies of the classical era.
>tfw you will never be as based as Rosen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJjOOSLSb_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTv-cFhHDtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2q5A5MicHA
Bump
How do I play the part circled in red?
Do I play F sixteenth note, skip the E flat, and then just play the rest?
>>66344664
its a grace note. play it just before the E, as if its squeezed in between the bars. the Eb will be played at the exact start of the bar, but the F will precede it by a fraction of a second
>>66344664
No expert but I believe you play the F and Eb as two 16th notes. I see this in performances of Mozart all the time.
>>66344777
ok actually I would like an explanation as to why people do this with Mozart
>>66344774
thats fucking gay how am i supposed to count half a second
>>66344811
Try using your brain, or getting one.
>>66344811
you shouldn't have to count anything, "fraction of a second" is just an expression.
Listen to some recordings to see what it sounds like, we're not your piano teacher
Reminder that Chopin is an underrated master of counterpoint and 2deep4plebs like Gould and poly
>>66345687
Proof!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0RrT6hMOgI
>>66345702
Nice meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwTG82KE1sM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEs6jOVRLg
>>66345702
Thats not a very good fugue
>those contsant misused trills
>>66345848
It's easily one of his worst pieces desu
Have a qt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuPGDnzTx5Y
>>66345848
I agree, it just sounds weird when it's tied over to those three eighth notes. The next note is the upper neighbor so where exactly the trill stops and the next note begins is unclear. It's posthumous for a reason I suppose.
>>66342880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVKInM7es0
>>66342880
Mozart 40 or Beethoven 5 are good to get a handle on sonata form (just wiki it or watch one of the many explanation videos on Youtube)
Can someone link the previous thread? Where even is archives?
>>66347558
>exit thread
>click on archive
>ctrl+F /classical/
not hard senpai
>>66280263 is the previous thread. Archives are at https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/
>>66337832
1. It's much older than that.
2. How DO keys work? You haven't told me.
Hey /classical/.
Anyone know where i can find Haydn's Stabat Mater? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
>>66347093
>memevaldi
>>66348272
https://1fichier.com/?edvqqw70zt
>>66348325
>being a meme makes something bad
Top meme
>>66348675
>>being a meme makes something bad
The above statement not being true in general doesn't stop it from being true in this particular instance.
>>66348631
Fucking amazing anon.
Thank you so fucking much!
The only way to keep this general alive is to relentlessly shit on G*rman composers.
Bump
>>66348696
>not liking Vivaldi
Have a heart.
I've been checking out HIP recordings recently. I dig the tuning, I dig the often faster tempi, I dig the lack of vibrato, but holy hell, the period instruments, especially the brass, sound like shit. This has got to be the absolute worst part about the le HIP meme. I have yet to hear a single recording where the brass hasn't sounded downright vulgar and awful.
They should just take period practices but play them on modern instruments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHV7bsnUDc
/comp/ has written a piece - rate it
>>66350648
Not THAT much worse than the original.
Damn it, I can't find a full recording of Gould playing appassionata.
Post stuff that triggers bogbillies to make /classical/ great again.
>>66350665
it took all the talent on /mu/ to put it together
>>66350687
getting angry at gould is impossible, though. he's too fun
>>66350687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc15dAe_o-4
>>66350804
Chopin confirmed for babies
>>66350687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLugVMzLoU
>>66350804
>posting an unfinished unpublished piece
>still better than your average swamp boogie when you hear it played for real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpS7hK5Y0QY
Will bogfriends ever stop embarrassing themselves?
>>66351549
hey this is actually pretty good not cringe at all
what are some GOAT waltzes?
i really like slavshit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfhp1-69Y8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chE_rqiaVO0
>>66351630
How can anyone tell if this comment is in the key of sarcasm?
Also:
>>66347903
How DO keys work?
>>66352798
lmao, this general.
It's akin to somebody starting a "rock music" general and everybody proceeding to discuss Radiohead, The Beatles and Led Zepplin with varying degrees of superficiality. You're all so, so embarrassing.
>>66352879
top kekkers!
>>66343326
It's pretty great though.
>>66352879
>I have nothing to add
contribute or get out friendo. no one likes a complainer
Post great sextets, GOAT string sextet coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMQyf_B-KNA
They really ought to record more of Palestrina's paraphrase masses. This and the Ave Regina Caelorum mass were both quite exceptional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAmHM7cbpk
>>66352879
Check the previous thread for my incendiary critique of Bach.
>>66348675
>implying his concerto for 2 trumpets isn't meme
>implying I think memevaldi is bad
>implying the faggot responding to you was me
>>66354136
that was great shitposting
now do debussy
give special attention to clair de lune
>>66354136
Someone who doesn't understand keys can't really critique Bach. Last thread you were attempting to troll so poorly we just stopped responding.
>>66353728
The only thing Paleatrina is good for is to be transcribed for violin.
https://youtu.be/7wUJ-aAB-Xk
>>66354766
>sullying the purity of Palestrina's vocal writing with vulgar ornamentations on an instrument as vile as the violin
smdh
>>66341812
meme mann
>>66354932
>muh purity
>implying his madrigals weren't every bit as profane as instrumental works
>mfw
>>66355001
>implying his madrigals weren't every bit as profane as instrumental works
I don't know what you're trying to say here. If by "profane" you intend to mean the opposite of "sacred", then it's pretty obvious that as settings for secular texts which are sung outside the liturgy the madrigals are obviously profane in that regard. If you intend to mean "unclean, impure, polluted", then your ignorance betrays you since Palestrina's madrigals are not so different from his sacred music in terms of style, they share a general lucidity of texture which is common in his music. Compare this subtle art to the more flamboyant, melodramatic and frankly mannerists styles of his contemporaries, chief among them Marenzio, de Wert, Luzzaschi and d'India, then it is pretty clear that it would be a gross overstatement to call his madrigals profane in that regard. In any way his four books of madrigals take up a tiny proportion of his total output, and two of them were "spiritual" which set Italian translations of sacred texts anyhow.
>>66355243
>style determines if a piece is pure or not
>hurr I'm using my own convenient definition of purity
Nice tautology you cumrag.
>>66355278
>style determines if a piece is pure or not
It does actually, at least in the context of discourses of music done by musicians, performers and scholars. Clearly to neophytes and dilettantes the term carries other significance which is clearly beyond your ability to clarify, but that's of no consequence. One wouldn't expect venom spewing troglodytes to be able to speak coherently, much less exposit moderately complex ideas in their own words.
>>66355541
>doesn't read posts
>thinks his unnecessarily verbose replies allows him to ignore whatever point was brought up against him
>writes in a way this cringeworthy
>>66354430
How DO keys work then?
>>66356121
Why don't you go and educate yourself about music before trying to discuss it?
Post the best interpretation of Chopin you know of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo4Y-W1ur1c
>>66356206
pffhahahahaha isn't it past your bedtime?
>>66356289
>"attacking" my character and not even addressing the point
So, you're going to remain as an uncultured swine?
Hi all. Does anyone have a link to Moravec's rendition of Chopin's Nocturnes? I've looked in the archive but the links there are dead.
This may sound as a joke, but it's not. Back when I was in music school, we had to do solphege, and one of the pieces we did was by Scarlatti, or some other italian with a similar name. I can't remember the name of the piece, but if anyone knows solphege and can help me out, the piece went
do re do do re do do si
si la si si la si si xx
etc
Does anyone recognize that? Can anyone name that? It's not an obscure piece since this was 2nd year of music school and we were using one of the most popular solphege books.
Thanks!
>>66356323
If you accuse someone of not knowing "how keys work" and you imply that you DO know "how keys work", you should be prepared to explain "how keys work".
How do keys work?
>>66356370
Scarlatti has like 500 sonatas man...RIP.
>>66356377
You shouldn't even be in this thread if you dont know basic shit like that
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
get educ8ed
>>66356377
I'm not the same anon that originally accused you.
Why the fuck should I educate you on one of the most basic aspects of music? That would prove literally nothing.
>>66356415
But I want to learn from the best. Take me under your wing.
How do keys work?
>>66356377
>hurr spoonfeed me elementary school material or your point is moot
Reminder that there are people this retarded RIGHT NOW posting in /classical/
>>66356431
I'm asking for an iota of evidence that the one(s) accusing me of not knowing "how keys work" actually DO know "how keys work" and that their accusation is not just en empty insult in response to me shitting on their totemic animal (B*ch).
Can YOU tell me how keys work?
>>66356524
>shitting on their totemic animal (B*ch).
You tried, but you failed.
Remember when you said the two pieces sounded exactly the same, but one was in minor key and one was in major key? yeah thats why we dont take you seriously.
Everyone here knows basic music theory but you it seems
>>66356601
And nobody can explain it, apparently. A most perplexing mystery.
>>66356524
Alright, let's go to the beginning. When you were "criticizing" Bach you attempted to say that all his pieces sound the same. You posted two fugues in different keys. When called out on the fact that it makes them sound completely different, you showed your ignorance of basic music knowledge. It's almost as though you were deaf.
>>66356601
Stop feeding the retard troll. It's as if /classical/ has forgotten which memes are spicy and which aren't.
>>66356673
1. One could never reach the summit of repugnance in regards to Bach's music unless one hears it, I'm afraid.
2. Will there be a follow-up comment in which you explain how keys work?
popcorn! popcorn! anyone?
>>66354345
Have some non-meme Vivaldi
https://youtu.be/V6ZtBuMnVxI
https://youtu.be/MAD6lUivz10
>>66344664
I think it's like a flam
t. perc player
>>66356733
Alright, while this discussion at least generates activity in the thread, it isn't leading towards anything productive. Especially since you don't want to educate yourself on music to at least attempt a reasonable critic of Bach. Why don't you, instead of posting ignorant inflammatory comments, at least try to post well-informed criticisms in the hopes of having thought provoking discussions?
1. That's just an opinion, you're entitled to it. I disagree, that's all. I think you're deaf because you apparently can't tell the difference between major and minor keys.
2. I simply will not educate you on basic knowledge. Especially considering the vast amount of quality resources available to you merely two clicks away.
I'm done with you.
>>66356840
Thanks for the concession.
what's the best wagner work?
>>66343924
n-no gould?
>>66356370
>>66356392
they are actually 555
>>66356886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dOnkcFjO6w
obviously
>>66356886
>n-no gould?
Why would I include someone who hums while playing?
>best wagner work?
Tristan und isolde is pretty good, tannhauser, meistersinger and of course DER RING.
Wish he had written more lieder (did he even write any?)
Has anyone ever fully beheld the absurd nature of German music?
>war of the romantics in full swing
>what are they gonna do outbang each other in a few years? HAMMERS?!?
>HOYL SHIT MAHLER UNIRONICALLY PUTS A HAMMER IN HIS THING
>>66357567
Mahler isn't German.
>>66357658
>Austria isn't German
>>66356988
>Wish he had written more lieder (did he even write any?)
Wesendonck Lieder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_93iNyNOb-A
>>66357707
Don't worry I won't tell them you said that. They get very angry over that kind of thing.
>>66357567
Cringed so hard
>>66357753
Are there ANY recordings of this that aren't drenched in nauseating vibrato? or am I shit out of luck becasue Wagner = "all vib all the time" for most people
>>66358198
But...the vibrato IS Wagner. The unspeakable aural kitsch of continuous vibrato is entirely consonant with Wagner's music. It's borderline self-parody anyway. Why not put the cherry on top?
>>66358198
It's a romantic thing to use excessive vibrato, not just Wagner
>>66358307
I thought excessive vibrato didn't become a thing until the 20th century.
>>66358349
That was when they started slathering the vibrato onto every other older work that wasn't supposed to have it in the first place.
>>66358349
you are right, but 99% of people who listen to classical music still think that modern (as opposed to post-modern) playing and interpretation is "romantic"
>>66358622
Its still argued that composers like Wagner and Brahms never expected constant vibrato in their pieces. Anyone with taste would dissuade tacky warbling.
>>66358622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFY1s6y6r5M&index=106
I'm not hearing the excessive vibrato
>>66358198
i don't think that is the worst case of vibrato i've heard, at least Baker is able to have a relative hold on her notes as opposed to wobbling all over the place like many modern singers.
otherwise you'd have to go back to the really old bayreuth tradition and listen to very old recordings (pic related). generally speaking many of the singers here are completely lacking the modern perception of vibrato. no excessive wobbling here, just straight-through singing.
singers like Frida Lieder were pretty good about their vibrato. comparatively much more subdued:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxcVSTFazL8
>>66358765
portamento should have never died
>>66358765
>>66358622
or how about this?
ruining older works with vibrato only really became a thing in the 1920's-40's
>>66358908
sorry lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3wysuAIDGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0VZB4rxLY
>>66359164
>WF Bach
>f minor harpsichord concerto
>mfw
Thick, solid, tight.
>>66359207
like pottery
it ends with why
>>66343065
I dunno, Nietzsche told me something different
>>66359501
You call THAT a bump?
What publishers do you guys prefer the most for sheet music? Also, how much sheet music do you buy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNk_A4ZoI30
post autistic stuff
>>66361315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVfi6E3S1uY
>>66361315
https://youtu.be/CbW1nNBqVnI
>>66361315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk1Hd7mdsBw
>listen to the same bit from 5-6 recordings of Shostakovich's 5th
>It's that slow marchy bit with the strings going crotchet quaver-quaver throughout
>despite being it specifically being marked at crotchet=84, nearly every conductor goes at sanic speed (100 or so)
>only one gets it right with the rest of his interpretation being great
>the final chord in that recording has a trumpet fluff a note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvxS_bJ0yOU
post cuck stuff
>>66362007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1W5uEGAKpI
What does /mu/ thinks about Mozart?
>>66363455
He is God.
>>66363455
he's rated
>>66363455
Underrated
>>66363455
Makes for nice elevator music
>>66363592
An elevator for Heaven, maybe.
>>66363470
>>66363487
>>66363514
I'm uneducated and basically just started getting into classical music. Chopin and Beethoven are my definite favorites but Mozart sounds always the same to me. I believe that's largely due my untrained ears but I might've not listen his best pieces yet. Care to share any?
>>66363733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coBhUvFgR5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1FsELWu_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONlDLgx0Gw
>>66363733
Divertimento for String Trio in E flat
The mature string quintets (C major<- especially this one, G minor, D major, E flat major)
Which era was the best era and why is it late romantic?
>>66363847
>not Classical
>>66363794
>>66363841
Thanks!
>>66363960
yeah that's right, fight me
I don't know anything about classical, the few stuff I liked was tchaikovsky (I know, not technically classical), wagner, and bach
>does anybody know where I can download all of the ring cycle, I've wanted to listen to all of it for a while
>>66340648
Is William Basinski good?
>>66364401
rutracker, or you can just watch the Boulez version on Youtube
>>66352879
Epic dood.
>>66364401
Does Wagneranon have a mega folder? If not someone should bug him to make one.
But ya what >>66364668 said and there's also this
meetinginmusic DOT blogspot DOT com\2015\09\man-explained-wagners-ring.html
>>66356752
I like popcorn.
>>66364474
lmao
>>66363514
Underrated post
is richard d james the mozart of electronic music, /classical/?
Why is Bach so shit
>>66364990
no, Stockhausen and Babbit are. They was doing whack electronic beats in the late 50s and early 60s Aphex was 50 years late to the party
>1958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwtAMGXyTI4
>1964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n1pZn4izI
>>66365248
Because you have shit taste, so you perceive him that way
>>66363733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Twh_q8lQs
>>66364759
my internet is kind of poop so i only upload things when people request and when i feel like it.
>>66365482
well can you at least link me to wherever you got your downloads?, nowhere else that peope reccomended is working
>>66365482
Fair enough.
What's Bartoks best work?
>>66366885
Quartet no. 5
>>66343830
This has a lot of charm for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9Z5qqV4Aw
>>66343948
Art of Fugue can be pretty austere, but the more I listen to it, the more nuances of feeling appear and the more vast it seems. Those canons are music from outer space... in particular the augmentation canon is some fucked up shit.
>>66356988
because he's one of the best.
what is peoples problem with the humming? "oh, I don't eat brownies with nuts in them". stop bitching, and deal with the work. it seems like some kind of purity complex. I know classical performance is one big purity complex: the demand for omnipotent technique, flawless performance, perfect purity of tone, the sanctity of the score, etc. goes beyond just being an aesthetic, it's more like an ideology, a value system (and it's unhealthy, just ask any burnout). Maybe all of these peoples' training has taught them to pounce on anything that doesn't conform to every standard of a "correct" sonic product. But for a lot of people who aren't obsessed with "the one true art music", he's a breath of fresh air.
>>66367439
and we know GG's reputation for dismissing the value of audience, he's said things like (don't quote me) "the central event happening on stage is the artist trying to connect to the work" and "solitude is the foundation for artistry", so maybe if he hums it's another way to connect to the work for himself. Really, it takes a lot of practice and concentration to listen to and understand a fugue. But we want the recording to be immediately transparent to us, we should be entitled to 100% of what he's cultivated. The recording should be the perfect product, commodity. And if you will only listen to immaculate recordings, maybe you're underestimating the amount of imagination, even work, that actually goes into listening. Sort of mistaking owning a recording for owning the contents. I mean, were our grandparents really disadvantaged for having to listen to fuzzy am radio broadcasts? Or look at recordings of gamelan music, there's frogs and cars and other sounds but they don't care. I'm not a John Cage devotee, but if you think the essence of "the music" is self-contained, and any non-essential sounds are extraneous and detrimental, you probably believe in nature over nurture, individual virtue over systemic conditions, and are contributing to harmful political actions.
In gamelan, there's a concept of "inner melody": when a teacher needs to remember a piece, he may not hum any of the parts played by instruments or sung by vocalists, he'll hum something different: (his own take on) the "inner melody". Not that Gould is doing that exactly--he seems to usually be humming a part--but I like the comparison.
That's the end of my confused and misguided venting. Maybe someone else has another idea.
>>66367461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHV7bsnUDc
>>66366885
Concerto for orchestra
>>66367439
>what is peoples problem with the humming?
its not part of the instrumentation, nor the composition.
Gould is a fine player, I just prefer to have my music without extra improvised parts added in. Thankfully there are many other great pianists we can listen to
Reminder that Gould's playing is a bigger problem than his humming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTZ33EVK3Ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaFIoePUvv8
What's some good medieval music to listen to while I'm looking at nun porn?
>>66364925
Is that a no?
>renaissance -> baroque
good
>medieval -> baroque
good
>baroque -> Classical
good
>Classical -> romantic
good
>romantic -> 20th century/modern
shit
Why did atonality have to ruin music? Not saying theres not anything decent after the romantics but classical music really started to decline. Perhaps Rach memed too hard and ruined it all
>>66369061
Anon you got it wrong, it comes in cycles
Medieval (Bad) -> Renaissance (Good) -> Baroque (Bad) -> Classical (Good) -> Romantic (Bad) -> 20th century (Good) -> 21st century (Bad)
It just happens to be the bad part of a cycle right now.
>>66369193
they are all good numbnuts what do you know
>>66369193
>Baroque (Bad)
u wot?
>>66369193
>Baroque (Bad)
i'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCk4MvZVmk
There is literally nothing wrong with 20th century music.
>>66369061
>baroque to classical
>good
Lmfao
>>66369193
t. Dumbass
>>66369317
>>66369405
>>66369795
>Barocucks are also Mozart underraters
How surprising.
>>66370076
>implying underrating
>>66370076
Be careful not to choke on the spicy memes you're shoveling down your throat there.
Im just here to say fuck Percy Grainger. As a trombonist I have hated every one of his pieces I have played. If I could go back in time and beat up anyone it would be Grainger (except he would like it)
>>66370431
Well as a woodwind player, fuck you.
>>66370505
but the brass has already fucked you from behind
>>66370076
None of those comments mentioned hating Mozart.
>>66368265
That's probably the best recording of the Turkish meme.
>>66368265
The slow tempo on the Turkish March is questionable but its really just up to tastes.
There is nothing wrong with the fugue from what I can tell.
>>66370679
>There is nothing wrong with the fugue from what I can tell.
It's a stile antico fugue played like a dance.
>>66371441
To be fair Cut-C or alla breve in Bach may well indicate a fairy brisk tempo, with two beats in a bar. That performance may be a bit extreme, but there's no particular reason to play it as slow as the C# minor or Bb minor fugues in book 1 as opposed to the fairly brisk pace that most pianist take the Eb major fugue in book 2 (All these fugues are Alla Breve with notes moving mainly in minims and crotchets).
http://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1269&context=ppr
>>66372466
neat. good recording selection.
Art of fugue may be the most egotistic Western art music made before Beethoven's bog boogie period.
Favorite of the brandenburg concertos?
Nothing better than no.5 allegro imo.
>>66373397
>no.5
Good choice, GOAT performance coming through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5YPY6u9S2s
>>66363847
Modern > Baroque > Renaissance > Classical > Romantic
>>66366885
>What's Bartoks best work?
MSPC imo.
How do you find inspiration to search for new classical music?
I just watched 'Tous les matins de Monde' and have been obsessed with Marais and Lully ever since. Never liked french baroque before. This makes me think, how much good stuff is there that I don't even acknowledge.
>>66374930
For more Baroque I suggest reading pic related and listening to the music of Rameau and Lully.
>>66375216
>French baroque
>mfw
Why were/are Westerners so hopelessly autistic when it comes to pitch?
"In India" (don't know where exactly, sorry) beating is described as warm and pleasing to the soul. In Indonesia it's described as a means to better perceive divinity.
The West's profound dislike of beating is eerily congruous with the idea that the Western mind is neotenous.
>>66376528
>described as warm and pleasing to the soul.
Strange then why they decided to turn their entire country into a toilet.
https://youtu.be/ixJgY2VSct0?t=32
>>66376528
im sure that german composer could beat you to a pulp of eastern delight if you ask him nicely
>>66376570
I know, they've been doing it to music for a long time.
>>66376609
yup, music loves it as much as you
5 > 9 > 3 >7 >6 > 8 > 4 > 2 > 1
>>66376625
>mfw this might a genuine window into the collective swampconscious
>>66376567
At least they haven't turned their music into one.
>>66376734
There isn't a single relevant composition written by an Indian.
>>66376769
That's for history to decide.
composition for this feel?
>>66376834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
>>66376834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83CrS-KElk
>>66376964
I actually find Mozart to be a tad overated
Is this a significant composition?
>>66377076
Not really, it's just incidental music. Not saying it can't sound good, but it really isn't important.
>>66377076
ignore the haters, this music groundbreaking at proper volume levels
>>66377246
>groundbreaking
Name one thing it did that hadn't been done before.
I'm not hating on it, it just isn't relevant at all.
>>66377212
fair enough
