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hey, it's the noise general everybody
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Post what you're currently listening to
Also, for future reference, let's all try our damnedest this time around to ignore all the shitposters and all meta discussion before this thread is derailed like all the rest
>>66285896
good luck with that one
>>66285867
But to answer the question, i gave this another listen. https://danielmenche.bandcamp.com/album/raw-cello-sessions
I never knew I needed this album in my life until he made it.
Noise clicked for me this morning and I want more, whats your recommendations? Only lead I have for label searching is GERÄUSCHMANUFAKTUR
>>66285896
This is crucial
What's the first album that really got you interested in noise, not including things like noise rock and pop...?
Here's mine, pleb pick but still relevant
http://youtu.be/iH5EAUCzHfA
These threads are shit and dying, use the superior thread here, you can discuss noise there too.
>>66286027
>>66285964
Nick?
>>66286052
Great album choice for OP pic but, I will never abandon this sinking ship. Sorry.
11th for noise isnt music
>>66286008
It's amazing to me that the first track doesn't have any overdubs or effects... It sounds very much alive, makes me think of stormy weather
>>66286052
Are you fucking kidding me? Those threads have all the same issues /noise/ has had, nothing but plebs posturing and dilettantes
>>66286065
I agree. Let's sink together! We're already off to a better start than most of these shit tier threads
>>66286052
noise isn't an experiment
>>66285964
I love when Bennett screams at me. Reminds me of home
is all of whitehouse's material worth checking out?
>>66286284
Bird Seed is the obvious entry point and is often regarded as their masterpiece, but yes, it's a very rewarding discography that's well worth getting into
I'm still listening to all of it myself
>>66286112
Right tho? Honestly, when it just broke into straight up noise on the second track, I knew daniel was blessing me with this album. I had never considered before that the cello could be used this way.
>>66286158
Cross your fingers & hold your nose, it might actually end well today.
>>66286284
uh.... yeah
>>66286368
I remain optimistic, and I yearn for the noise threads of a year or two ago... As long as we keep the dialogue flowing and remember to ignore the shitposters, it should be decent
>>66286314
Cruise is the true peak of modern whitehouse
I still believe in /noise/.
post yr favorite power noise
>>66286530
Recently I've been getting into Aube, which may not qualify as power noise, but it certainly has rhythmic qualities... Does that count?
>Noise
>Music
Pick one faggots
>>66286530
What album is that?
>>66286015
what did you listen to?
>>66286008
I honestly only listened because of the sick album art, and I'm glad I did! It's amazing what this guy can do with just a cello and a rainy day
His live stuff is even better in my opinion
>I'm a /noise/ man myself, Whitehouse, Masonna, Kazumoto Endo, Aube, I could go on...
How is it possible for a general like this to exist for years and for the people posting in it to not even get an iota of a clue in all that time?
>>66286697
someone recommended me this in a "listen to whats posted below you" thread and i checked out some of Yoshihiro Kikuchi's solo work.
>>66286798
>getting into noise through a shitty /noise/ meme album
Oh, you poor soul.
>>66286627
>>66286796
>>66286815
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's over
sorry, guys
>>66286815
that was just the introduction to it, what got me into it was the solo work and entry level artists i could find
>>66286858
I'm not trying to antagonize anyone, I just legit don't understand how you retards don't get bored with yourselves at this point.
It's like if the only things that ever got posted in /metal/ were Metallica, Burzum, Morbid Angel and Napalm Death. What the fuck is the point?
>>66286858
Disengage before the thread is derailed. It was actually pretty pleasant up until this point
>>66286909
did you enjoy the wall noise aspect of it? if you did, dig through vomir's discography. beware though, he's a purist when it comes to hnw.
>>66286913
>I'm not trying to antagonize anyone
>you retards
You know, there's more being shared and discussed here than just four entry level artists
Also, a lot of people come to these threads because they're just getting into it, and I feel it's important to encourage these people to learn more and foster their interest in the genre
Keeps the thread moving along nicely, keeps people interested
I don't see any harm in that
>>66286913
And it's not even like I've been seeing any decent discussion on these handful of artists either?
What's so good about Whitehouse? "Uh, they're loud and the yelling is funny."
What's so good about Kazumoto Endo? "Uh, he's loud but not edgy."
What's so good about Vomir? "Uh, the walls."
>>66287024
Yeah that's right, play dumb. Try to look less clueless by posting a less-known Masonna album. Talk about "the textures". Post some Whitehouse memes! The world is yours!
"I like noise! Kazuma Kubota, The Rita, Yoshihiro Kikuchi, the list goes on!"
>>66287057
I liked the more dynamic stuff i could find, i could only listen to the wall stuff in small 15-minute or so doses
>>66287101
>Also, a lot of people come to these threads because they're just getting into it, and I feel it's important to encourage these people to learn more and foster their interest in the genre
You dudes definitely aren't the people to do that, that's for sure. You can't even encourage yourselves to learn more and foster more interest in it.
Gdi, I cant even go make a coffee.
>>66286643
https://www.discogs.com/5F_55-II/release/171776
>>66285867
Moving on, got recommended this roughly 3 years ago and I'm barely trying it. Hoping for the best.
>>66286158
But those threads are more varied and aren't as narrow minded as noise generals.
what's the /noise/ release that you can't help but incessantly revisit?
pic related for me
anyone have the new Crown of Cerberus?
>>66287202
"Yellow Swans, I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids, Consumer Electronics, I could be naming names all week here!"
where everyone go
you know what, fuck this general. both /noise/ and the complaints about it(some of which i admit have a grain of truth to them) have become so predictable and mindnumbingly repetitive, you can predict every single post in a given noise thread.
>someone makes /noise/
>cue a bunch of entry level albums and artists
>cue a "let's ignore shitposters this time" warning as it if needed to be said
>cue a "how do I get into noise?" question always answered by recommending the same "soft noise" albums, usually yellow swans or hole in the heart or aube
>cue some soundcloud or bandcamp links
>cue some shitposters showing up
>cue people managing to ignore them
>cue memes
>cue more entry level albums and artists
>cue more shitposters or people showing up just to say how shit these threads are
>cue them not being ignored this time around and people starting to bicker with them
>cue threads going into full on retardation where there is no longer even the smallest chance of them turning out decent
it's either this or threads die with 0-5 posts in them.
i'm out.
>>66288290
see you tomorrow
>>66287236
I wasn't disappointed.
>>66288355
>see you tomorrow
don't think everyone here shares your stockholm syndrome.
I don't think I've ever seen this release discussed here
who human skin lanterns here
>>66288875
This might be the edgiest thing I have ever seen.
>>66288927
there are probably things you'd find worse. You'd probably find lots of Dead Body Collection's covers very edgy
>>66288956
>Human Skin Lanterns
>Dead Body Collection
Lmao, these fucking names. MOM'S GONNA FREAK.
>>66288927
>>66288956
here we go
>>66286913
Ah, noise can be made in a fuckton of different ways and it will sound different. Would give you examples, but I'm way too tired to argue with shitheads like you.
>>66288987
for someone who's never heard of DBC, I can assume you're one of the earlier shitposters who didn't leave. Which one are you, this one >>66286102 or >>66286627 (assuming you aren't both).
>>66289066
No I actually like human skin lanterns and dead body collection, I can just understand the criticism that these artists may appear to be relying on a shallow shock factor to attract attention to their material. That being said I think DBC is one of the most important acts in the modern HNW scene and that human skin lanterns album, skin striperess, is very good
>>66289001
Meh, the edgiest thing about this is how terribly designed this is.
Looks like a 12-year old made it.
>>66289040
Keep guessing.
>>66289066
>he thinks harsh noise with gory album covers and edgy retarded names is somehow "unsafe and threatening" in the age of Liveleak and ISIS execution videos
This level of sheltered naivety actually explains a lot about noise fans.
>>66288290
Then start a discussion? Be the solution you want to see
>>66289206
holy shit I just figured out who you are. Girl-O, are you STILL fucking salty that people don't like your noise?
>>66289206
Also /mu/ has disdain for explicit images because this is a sfw board lol
>>66289206
maybe the work of "Twodeadsluts Onegoodfuck" may come across as worse for you
>>66289243
I don't know who that is.
>>66289289
>"Twodeadsluts Onegoodfuck"
Nah, that just sounds like a goofy joke band.
Names like Human Skin Lanterns and Dead Body Collection actually sound like they want to be perceived as provocative and extreme, which is what makes them funnier.
I know that this is probably a normie question, but what are some good artists like Yellow Swans and Jefre Cantu-Ledesma? I really like the soundscapey "soft noise" that I've heard.
What is the best place to listen to/find this kind of music? YouTube?
>>66289394
/noise/, ofc.
>>66289394
youtube occasionally has some tracks from albums but soulseek is a good resource for finding stuff. Discogs scouring is good for getting lost in labels/related releases.
>>66289394
rym
>>66289341
Total slitting of throats?
Revelation of the dead girl?
Pop Culture Rape Victim?
i've been casually into noise for awhile, Boris/Merzbow was for sure my starting point. Got more into it after hearing 1930 and Merzbient. Any recs on albums for me to really dive in with? Looking on getting into noise being my summer project
>>66289511
yeah I find a lot on here. It's not the be all end all and shouldn't be taken too seriously but it's a good starting point
>shitposters accusing dilettantes and spoonfeeding-dependent retards on ruining /noise/
>dilettantes and spoonfeeding-dependent retards accusing shitposters of ruining /noise/
Pro-tip: you both ruined /noise/.
Fuck me, this general has become such a pitiful joke.
>>66289596
listen to all the basics like masonna, incapacitants, hijokaidan, msbr, vomir, the rita, prurient, richard ramirez, lasse marhaug, ahlzagailzehguh, power monster, grunt,pedestrian deposit, I am a lake of burning orchids, yellow swans, nkondi, power monster, 666 volt battery noise, sutcliffe jugend, skin crime, con-dom, sissy spacek, kevin drumm, c.c.c.c., kylie minoise, nicole 12, koufar, herukrat, kakerlak, ba.ku., bt.hn., alberich, werewolf jerusalem, mo te, the cherry point, sewer election, hanatarash, goat, controlled bleeding, and black leather jesus should be good for the now
Where is the best place to start with les rallizes denudes?
>>66289792
What are the best albums to start with from these artists? Should I just listen to their highest rated albums on RYM/Discogs?
>>66289792
kinda sad that you've gotten so embittered that you take putting people who have done so much for noise (and probably more than you've ever done in your life), and call them "Basics" in order to try to mock this general.
>>66289838
that's a good starting point but definitely explore more of their discographies as you get the feel for things
>>66289792
>I Am A Lake Of Burning Orchids
>being even remotely noteworthy, much less a "basic" or a "classic"
The dismal level of knowledge in these generals has resulted in them having such a skewed perspective on noise and how significant or insignificant some artists are.
IAALOBO is and always has been irrelevant Bandcamp shit. The only people who even know about that project, much less think it has any significance, are /noise/ goons.
Most of the other shit you posted isn't "basic" or "classic" either, by the way.
>>66289848
being a good entry point isn't intended to be an insult
>>66289799
Their seminal albums Bird Seed and Pulse Demon.
>>66289899
Then what is some classic noise
>>66289899
I mean I don't pretend his significance is anything it's not, I just am personally a fan of the music, especially summer in my veins
>>66289848
really being put in that list is intended to be a compliment, if anything
>>66289923
Haha
>>66289848
>people who have done so much for noise (and probably more than you've ever done in your life)
The vast majority of the names he listed have done fuck-all for noise or its advancement. They're just subcultural detritus filling out a market.
>>66289899
it's more a list of what I like and found early on that helped me get more into it
>>66289966
Did I say all of them, you little cockmuncher
>>66289933
Merzbow, Masonna, Whitehouse, I could go on...
>>66289848
Kinda sad that you've gotten so embittered that you become enraged by this list
>>66289971
To me it looks more like you just listed every noise band you knew without paying any attention to how relevant or irrelevant they may be.
>>66289985
Pretty much, yeah. Don't expect me to read your mind.
>>66289966
Would you post a better list, then? Or are you too good for that too?
so i just listened to loveless and souvlaki. must say i'm definitely fond of this genre so far
what noise should i listen to next?
>>66290032
No. Spoonfeeding played a big part in making this general as redundant and circular as it is. Do your own research.
>>66290054
Try some Sunn O))). Or maybe some Animal Collective.
>>66290072
unty PLEASE fuck off
>>66290028
I left off a lot of less known artists so that's not accurate
>>66290054
>>66290093
>no new IPs
teehee fun posts
>>66289596
try a good comp or two
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Resistance-And-Self-Destruction-Are-Synonymous/release/6241876
https://www.discogs.com/Various-White-Eye-Of-Winter-Watching/release/3233053?ev=rr
https://www.discogs.com/label/265844-An-Anthology-Of-Noise-Electronic-Music
>>66290096
>unty
Where do you autists even find the time to memorize all these /mu/ personas and call them out whenever someone says something you don't like?
After all this time on this board I still recognize like 3 tripfags tops.
>>66290159
It's so impressive how you don't pay attention
>>66290210
The day I start paying attention to and keeping up with attention-seeking twats on the 4chan music board is the day I end it all, friend.
>>66290159
are you celebrating how daft you are
is this a meme
>>66290272
Lol
>>66285867
>father why have you forsaken me
what does her asshole taste like, lads? I'm going to make an album about it
I'm putting a contact mic on a homemade flesh light then running the sounds into a backwards delay and a distortion pedal
What kickstarted these threads getting so bad? Was it the poseurcore meme?
>>66290632
while I jack off to this picture and look at her RYM page
>>66290666
If was the codification of certain albums as "classics" and then shitting on people for liking those albums
and also Montie
>>66290666
the poseurcore thing had pretty much no effect on /noise/, this thread was already well on its way down by then
there was already a lot of infighting and complaining and shit by then
the truth is that /noise/ was never very good. it has spent like 85 or 90 percent of its lifespan being bad in one way or another(though it has definitely reached new depths of shittiness in 2016, which if you ask me began with that big bandcamp compilation)
as much as some people don't like to hear it, the only periods when /noise/ was alright was when it was quite insular and tightly knit, when there was like a dozen of the same people who kept posting in it and not much outside action or newfags around
however most, if not all of the people who were around during those decent periods have abandoned the general since then and now you're left with this shitshow
you could actually notice them leaving one by one, certain tripfags just stopped showing up, certain people you could recognize by their posting styles or the shit they talked about, certain sorts of OPs stopped being made
meh
thoughts on the "extreme music from" compilations
Japan and Russia editions are my favorites
>>66286008
thank you last thread for the Crumer stuff, much appreciated
>>66291201
Not a problem man.
>>66290666
Maybe it's people talking about how bad the threads are instead of actually talking about noise
Best noise album
>>66290632
who?
>>66289341
>which is what makes them funnier.
It's called aesthetic and concept. Most noise albums in the early 90s (mostly from the american noise scene) had explicit images as artwork that made them quite unique. It's not like they were pushing that "wooOOww we are so dark and provocative" image. It's all about aesthetic.
Now, if someone made a digital shitty noise album with a naked, "raped" girl found on google images as artwork with shitty photoshop edit, now that'd be funnier and "wow so edgy". It's become a cliché.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0kNxe3efK8 here's some quality zach hill noise
>>66292724
daisiesfree
>>66293310
>Most noise albums in the early 90s (mostly from the american noise scene) had explicit images as artwork that made them quite unique.
how did it make them unique if most of them had the same style of artwork
>It's not like they were pushing that "wooOOww we are so dark and provocative" image. It's all about aesthetic.
and the aesthetic is one of contrived and juvenile "extremity", not much different from goregrind or brutal death metal or whatever other dreck of the sort
the effort noise fans put into intellectualizing or dignifying the moronic pseudo-extreme shit they're listening to reminds me of teenage metalheads writing diatribes about the genius of slipknot in the youtube video comment sections
Does anyone have any recommendations for more like this?
I'm actually not sure if Ben Frost, Fuck Buttons, Haxan Cloak, etc count as noise or not but I really like their sounds and I'm not sure how else to classify them.
lads theres a tape I remember listening to ages ago that I've been trying to find as far as I can remember it had a tribal Japanese aesthetic? and had a white face with a black background as the cover art.
Can barely even remember if it was noise related but it's been bugging me for a while
>>66294008
Was it this?
Can we post noise rock?
>>66294285
yes cheers
>>66294403
sure man it's not like this thread is that active anyway
>>66294442
>>66294421
I've been liking this https://lavidaesunmus.bandcamp.com/album/s-t-mlp
>>66294421
That's more ritual ambient, which is a sick genre to check out
>>66293565
Who
>>66293585
Not all noise fans think the same way I guess. Despite noise being one of my favorite genres, I don't consider myself an avid fanboy. I listen to lots of other music. Also, I don't really give a shit about the explicit images as their artworks, if the "music" or noise is good, then that's fine with me.
Yes, I know what you're getting at, most of them can be obnoxious snobs pieces of shit that feel superior because they think noise is the all-end of everything. It's like Vomir, I dig some of his stuff, but the "nihilist" concept of the bag on his head it's fucking ridiculous.
>>66293585
It was unique compared to other genres. The imagery was not used in other genres. I think that's what was meant
>>66294645
It's just some profile on RYM
