Do indiefags realize there is more to a guitar than the first 3 frets?
is metal v indie coming back?
>>66214927
If you need more than the first 3 frets to get the job done you suck at making music
>>66214927
is this some dumb /gg/ meal meme?
>>66214927
Maybe there's a good business plan there. A guitar with only 4 frets and the rest of the neck fretless for wacky "noise rawk" sounds.
>>66214927
I've been playing guitar for 8 years, 2 hours a day and never felt the need to use the other frets. What can I use them for? Every chord I can think of I can play on open string and first three frets, and, if required, retuning.
>>66214978
this
>>66215019
>What can I use them for
To play an Eb maj13
>>66215196
Why would anyone want to do that?
>>66215196
>Ebmaj13
detune low E to Eb
first fret on A
open D string
open G string
first fret on B string
first fret on high E string
>>66215196
>hey guuiz listen to my pre-post-garage-punk industrialist-core inverse-pop 30 second track. You have to manually spin the vinyl backwards to hear it properly
this is the only time you would need to play an Eb maj13
>>66214927
but indiefags play B
>>66215019
Wow, you've wasted the last 8 years of your life.
>>66215296
care to elaborate? I'm feeling pretty content with my skills to be honest
>>66215019
Have you ever played a solo?
>>66215359
this
>>66215359
no, guitar is a rhythmical instrument and I use it as such
solos are for keyboards or bass guitar
>>66215207
Way to limit yourself. That's the indie attitude for you I guess.
>>66214927
J Mascis, Kevin Shields, Thurston Moore, and Lee Ranaldo popularized the Jazzmaster. I don't think I've ever seen them play an open triad chord like ever.
>>66215402
>no, guitar is a rhythmical instrument and I use it as such
>solos are for keyboards or bass guitar
>>66215432
>J Mascis
>I don't think I've ever seen them play an open triad chord like ever
hmm.....
>>66215402
Dude...You're a fucking retard.
>>66215402
Not sure if troll or retard. I know you've been playing for eight years but check this out - you can use a guitar for RHYTHM and LEAD sections. I know it will be hard to wrap your head around but i believe in you.
>>66215592
wow rude
this is nice board, please don't use words like r*tard or f*ck... it's very rude
besides, rhythm guitar is very underrated and I wish more people would realize how much fun it is
>>66215402
>bass guitar solo
Literally the dumbest idea ever
I like the one on my generation though
>>66215432
>Kevin Shields
>I don't think I've ever seen them play an open triad chord like ever.
You clearly haven't watched Kevin Shields play, ever.
>>66215659
but with nice fuzz and warm EQ it can sound so nice as a melody carrier
>>66215432
>I don't think I've ever seen them play an open triad chord like ever.
THESE BANDS USED OPEN TUNINGS
THEY DIDN'T EVEN PLAY BARRE CHORDS.
>>66215402
>>66215659
http://www.jazz.com/jazz-blog/2008/5/19/how-bass-solos-ruined-jazz
Daily reminder that, unless you are a bassist yourself and thus properly immunised, exposing yourself to the vibrations of an unaccompanied double bass or bass guitar will give you prostate cancer.
>>66214927
excuse you we use the whole guitar
sometimes we need a capo on fret 10 but we use the whole guitar
>>66214927
Do metalfags realize that not everything requires a drop tuning
>>66215813
His article was about the double bass, not the bass guitar.
>>66215402
>bass guitar
Why are people taking this b8
>>66216032
You're a pleb if you think he's baiting. The bass guitar is actually the perfect solo instrument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrav_MSMjNs
>>66216071
Bass solos are sexier than guitar solos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqRt34Yf-b0
>>66215024
You dumb fucks not knowing about c#m
>>66215315
Time to end it anon.
>>66215592
Concur
>>66214978
This. Everyone should just play the same crappy standard voicings of Emin, Gmaj, Amin, Cmaj and Dmaj all the time. Hell, if you're using more than three of those in a song, you're also probably WAAAAY in over your head.
>>66214927
yes, but indie was literally a response to the technicality and virtuosity of rock so naturally they try to do more with less
not that either approach is inherently worse than the other
>>66216381
end what? why would I end something that I'm satisfied with?
>>66216417
Are you sure your not describing Punk vs. Prog with this post?
>>66216417
lolno
Response to anything my ass. Next you are going to tell me lazy indie pixelshit games are a response to AAA games.
>>66216453
This. Indie rock has put out plenty of passable musicians/songwriters and "rock" as a whole really necessarily synonymous with virtuosity.
>>66216453
Punk was all power chords, in other words, pseudo-barre chords.
>>66216453
The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!
Guitar solos are fucking worthless, and have no place in songwriting unless you're an exceptional player and not an autistic wankmaster.
>>66216496
well yeah. the whole point is "I don't have access to the same production resources and/or pure technical ability so I'm going to make the best with what I've got." maybe response is not the right word for it
>>66216453
no. I mean hard rock-type stuff that was popular in the 70s, but I guess prog is a part of that.
punk was similar, but my understanding is that it was more political and less musical, whereas indie artists (or at least the best ones) tend to have actual musical ambitions
>>66215315
You're only confining yourself in a box that is going to be harder and harder to break out of with each year you continue to play. Though somehow I feel like you offered bait and I took it.
Either way, you've wasted a lot of time.
>>66216574
this
Rock has always been about energy, not virtuosity. No rock guitarist comes close to a great jazz player, and that's how it should be.
I do love bands that can balance energy and virtuosity, (Television)
>>66216599
Nah most people outside of punk think it's a political genre but most punk, especially early punk, isn't political at all. All punk is counterculture to some degree though
Just goes to show how the genre is misrepresented in the mainstream
>>66215273
>pre-post-garage-punk industrialist-core inverse-pop 30 second track
Or you know...jazz...
>>66216618
I don't feel like "confining" oneself in a box of sorts is bad, since I feel alright with myself. Really, I've never had any ambition, so strumming chords to songs is entertaining enough, and has been for the last 8 years, that I've never sought out, nor do I plan to, anything more with my guitar skills. I don't think if I had a good time I can call it "wasted time".
>>66215019
>Every chord I can think of I can play on open string and first three frets
haaaaaaaa
>>66216704
throw me a chord with six components or less (anymore wouldn't be possible to play on a guitar anyway) and I can guarantee it's possible to play it in this range of fretboard.
>>66216734
voicing is extremely important. you're severely limiting yourself in that department by never leaving open position.
>>66216621
Virtuostic guitar solos work as their own tracks, but they have no place in songwriting. If you put a guitar solo in the song it has to serve the song and the melody in some way.
A lot of "lead" guitarists, are too stupid to realize this.
>>66216684
So we've finally reached our conclusion. You suck at guitar, case closed.
>>66217263
>playing mindless improv is being "good" at guitar.
>>66217263
never said otherwise my man ;)
being good at things is overrated though. I'd prefer to be bad or average at a lot of things than great at one.
>>66217307
>I'd prefer to be bad or average at a lot of things than great at one.
So you don't want to be good at anything?
>>66217263
>being this mad over someone else enjoying their life
anon maybe you should see somebody and work through all this anger
>>66217351
I don't *want* anything.
If I'm good - fine. If I'm not - I don't mind either way. But a thought of being really great at one thing and then really bad at everything other is kinda bugging me, don't know why.
>>66214978
i'm pretty sure people who play complex music can bang out open chords just as easily as you can but okay sure
>>66217405
>the "hiding lack of talent behind 'complexity'" meme
oh no anon you fell for it :(
>>66217405
It depends, there's some people who can play an excellent solo, but can't write a decent song for shit, and there's some people who can.
>>66214927
>implying you need more than the first 4 frets
If you use higher frets just use the skip to the next string
>>66215011
I'd buy this
>>66215019
>What can I use them for?
Playing the same notes/chords but with a bassier timbre.
>>66217429
Sounds to me like someone can only play open chords.
>>66217492
>the "you have to use more than just the first 4 frets" meme
oh no anon you fell for it :(
>>66217652
You don't have to, but you should be able to.
>>66217681
>the "you should be able to do flashy stuff you will never need in a song" meme
oh no anon :(
>>66217705
So...you can't. What makes you think that you deserve an opinion?
what would give you more tonal range, having a humbucker guitar and a guitar with p90s, or having a singlecoil and one with p90s? I've only ever had one electric and it's pic related. The majority of stuff I play is surf, garage, jangly kind of sound so obviously I'm leaning towards a fender type of guitar. But I feel like I can already get in that area with my SE, and I was liking some les pauls when I tried them at the shop
>>66217726
>the "if you don't support it it means you can't do it" meme
anon oh no :(
>>66214927
name a single band that does OP
and because you are talking about rhythm guitarists
>>66217763
Get a humbucker guitar with a single-coil/humbucker selector like the push/pull tone knobs on schecters
after playing and learning for years I actually had to realize you can do a lot with the first 3 frets
ypu should all use the fist 4 frets otherwise theres no way to play the low G#, C# are not available anywhere else on the fret board.
>>66217945
you can use different tunings
More importantly, if you only know how to play in standard you're a pleb.
>>66217652
>>66217705
>>66217779
Fuck you, this made me kek for some stupid reason.
>>66217964
it's what I aim for
>>66217963
this
play with your tunings
do what you want
we're all douchebags in the end :')
>>66218007
fag
>>66214978
dude chords lmao
>>66215701
>>66215528
>>66215741
Do you guys even know what a triad is?
>>66217963
Wes Montgomery is a pleb everybody.
>>66217779
I could watch this all day not even joking
>>66218111
>he probably doesn't even know the circle of 5ths
>>66218214
>they probably can't tell a dominant from a subdominant
>>66218327
>let alone understand how to properly apply transposition
>>66215432
How to play like J?
>+ 88 posts and 4 image replies omitted.
>>66218477
Be unable to play barre chords
>>66218153
>Wes Montgomery is a pleb everybody.
He doesn't count, he was good and used atypical chords/phrasings.
>>66218603
okay done what next.
>>66218656
spam whammy pedal + a ton of fuzz, randomly mess around your fretboard and pass that as an emotional solo
>>66218778
Nice, now where can I redeem all this as indie cred
>>66218855
Idk indie isn't hyped anymore
Either dress up as a women and do a "politically and socially conscious" album about lgbt issues or make a trap album or something idk
>>66219078
Or appropriate from metal like Deafheaven.
>>66214965
i miss this so much
>>66219294
>>66214965
Nah, it's just meme rap and pop spam now.
>>66215402
good lord
>>66217963
>can play proficiently in NST (all fifths expect for top string, which is a third above) , standard, and DADGAD
Feels good.
