most Europeans think deep house means shitty high energy vocal house
They do, but that album is fucking terrible and you should be embarrassed.
>>66209284
go listen to Tale of Us pleb
>>66209284
Get outta here this is a masterpiece.
I don't think about deep house at all, but that album is fucking terrible and you should be embarrassed.
>>66209284
No its not
>>66209284
>>66209298
>European opinions on music
lmao why do you guys even try?
reminder that the Ambient Ballroom Mix of Oh Yoko - Seashore is the best DJ Sprinkles track
>>66209404
delete this
>>66209287
>>66209296
>>66209299
literal embryos, fuck off and stop pretending to like dance music
>>66209269
most /mu/ thinks this is good deep house
back to your containment avant teen threads
All Americans think house music is Ultra-tier EDM wank.
>>66209284
>>66209298
>>66209460
/mu/ why must you disappoint me so
>>66209481
I don't think you know what an avant-teen is.
>>66209507
As I said: stop pretending to like dance music, you clueless cunt.
never really thought of midtown 120 blues as "dance music".... more like introspective music for after "the club" where you really think about the gesture of "clubbing" and "partying"
>>66209269
>visits rym deep house chart once
>pretends to be into dance music
>>66209548
>pedantry
Real deep house is almost too deep for the club
>>66209284
>>66209460
>>66209536
>>66209604
Explain how Midtown 120 Blues is bad.
>>66209635
i don't engage with embryos.
>>66209536
How is liking Midtown equivalent to pretending to like dance music? I'm curious
>>66209643
So you can't explain?
"Real 'deep house' is too intelligent for the people that tend to use the expression" -Jeremy Underground
>>66209284
Incorrect
>>66209659
>>66209676
please stop posting and go listen to your beige guitar music, you are literally the most embarrassing people
>>66209717
You still haven't explained how M120B is bad.
to be honest grand central pt 1 has one of the secretly most jackin basslines ive ever heard in a house song.... but its like an ambient track.
>>66209686
>an autistic Parisian DJ is also a pretentious cunt
no surprises there
>>66209733
That's because he can't
>>66209743
Jeremy is actually really unpretentious about people approaching him and about different records... but yeah that statement was a bit off
>>66209733
You have no context. I don't engage with embryos.
anything missing?
>>66209765
So you can't explain how it's bad?
>>66209733
re-read the thread and see if you can't deduce it yourself, you daft cunt
>>66209783
The Field, Luomo, Kompakt Records.....
>>66209789
No one here has explained how it is a bad album.
>>66209783
Raw Cuts Vol. 1
Ostgut Ton
Hyperdub
>>66209806
You're an obstinate, interminable child and you do not deserve to be taken seriously. Stop pretending to like dance music, thanks
>>66209863
How is it a bad album?
>>66209789
The closest anyone on this thread has gotten to explaining why it's bad; only people who pretend to like dance music like it.
>>66209863
Lmao get off this board if you don't want to discuss music
>>66209833
Ostugut Ton is for clubbers, just boring Berghainites
>>66209635
The album is a second-rate rehash of actual deep house music in which the concept takes higher priority than the music and Sprinkles ximself is an SJW hack who appropriates black culture whilst residing in Japan.
>>66209879
B I N GO
I
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G
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I wish I was the kind of person who gets super mad at people for liking a thing, but not in the way I want them to.
Oh wait, I was like that. When I was 18 and younger.
>>66209899
>the concept takes higher priority than the music
The OP album that is, not actual deep house music.
>>66209897
that's why I suggested it mate
>>66209899
>The album is a second-rate rehash of actual deep house music in which the concept takes higher priority than the music
How? I see no way that the concept comes before the music. I also do not see how that is a bad thing, even if it was true.
>and Sprinkles ximself is an SJW hack
Confirmed for younger than 18.
Terre has been talking about "sjw" shit for like 30 years now
>>66209899
>>66209916
>actually, unironically engaging with embryos
mate get it the fuck together
>>66209897
Answer Code Request's album is amazing
new Fengler is real good to
seem trendy to hate on ostgut atm but i don't get it, such a solid roster of ppl
>>66209833
Ostgut is for people who are actually into the music
hyperdub is getting back on track
>>66209783
why is basic channel and surgeon on there?
>>66209951
How insecure are you about your taste in music?
>>66209957
I love Shedding the Past. The strength of the label for me is in the mix CDs... better DJs than producers.
>>66209934
>How? I see no way that the concept comes before the music. I also do not see how that is a bad thing, even if it was true.
I don't want shitty concepts shoved down my ears when it is groovy tunes that I'm looking for, thank you very much. Especially so when the subject matter is cringe as fuck after all this time.
>Confirmed for younger than 18.
I don't want shitty concepts shoved down my ears when it is groovy tunes that I'm looking for, thank you very much. Especially so when the subject matter is cringe as fuck after all this time.
>>66209967
stop answering everything with a question, you useless fucking sperg
>>66209985
>I don't want shitty concepts shoved down my ears when it is groovy tunes that I'm looking for, thank you very much
So you're admitting that the only reason you don't like it...is because you personally don't care about its approach.
How does that make it objectively bad?
>>66209964
Hyperdub hasn't been on track since signing Zomby. BC is there because it's the go-to /bleep/ album thanks to RYM avant-teens.
>>66210005
Because better, actual deep house exists out there in the wild which lacks shitty concepts backing it's lack of quality.
>>66209985
>I don't want shitty concepts shoved down my ears when it is groovy tunes that I'm looking for
I don't think it's intended to be an album of bangers, to be fair. And the concept is only really prominent on a few tracks
>>66210005
You have the critical reasoning of a pygmy and everything you say makes you sound like a clueless adolescent
>How does that make it objectively bad?
I mean fucking hell just drown yourself
>>66210027
>Because better, actual deep house exists out there
Post some, and explain how it is better than M120B.
>which lacks shitty concepts backing it's lack of quality.
How is the concept shitty?
How is the concept "making up for lack of quality?"
>>66210046
/bleep/ posters everyone
>>66210010
>>66210010
>Hyperdub hasn't been on track since signing Zomby
097 was good
098 was accepetable
099 is sick
101 is gonna be sick
I have no hopes for 102.
no one under the age of 35 knows what deep house is
LET ME SUM UP THE DISCUSSION FOR YOU FUCKING MORONS WHO JUST BARGE IN WITHOUT TAKING CONTEXT INTO THOUGHT FOR A SINGLE GOD DAMN SECOND, IN HANDY GREENTEXT FORM SINCE YOU SEEM INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING ANY OTHER FORM OF COMMUNICATION:
>Guy posts that he's listening to Midtown 120 Blues, claims that everyone else is a pleb, implying that Sprinkles is an "exit level" composer ("get on my level, plebs")
>I point out that it sucks, thus making it the most entry level patrician music (referring to the scene as a whole)
>Idiot responds with "There is no deep house in art music"
>Discussion ensues, I claim that there is and provide all kinds of supporting arguments for why my opponent is wrong
>Entry: you - the idiot who didn't follow the discussion and just goes in to state something completely irrelevant or something that has already been said, better yet just ignoring everything that has been said to post fallacious claims based on your own ignorance
>>66209460
What the fuck is an embryo
>>66210122
Maybe if you presented a cogent argument I wouldn't be left with so many questions.
>>66210131
Different thread?
>>66210075
>Post some, and explain how it is better than M120B.
Spoon feed yourself bub.
>How is the concept shitty?
How is it now?
>How is the concept "making up for lack of quality?"
How does it not?
>>66210160
I'm literally about to smash my keyboard to bits because of how ridiculously fucking incapable of processing text you are.
I'm just going to leave here, because clearly you don't even read my posts and just go "nope wrong lel XD"
>>66210160
t. embryo
>>66210173
>Spoon feed yourself bub.
So you can't post anything better than it?
>>66209269
this comp is some amazing deep minimal shit
http://shop.silentseason.com/album/the-wandering-ii-compilation
>>66210131
you're ignoring my arguments edgelord
DJ Sprinkles to Deep House is what Burial is to UK Garage. A TALENTLESS HACK FOR RYM/TUMBLR HIPSTERS
>>66210131
Let me sum up the thread for you real quick:
>Guy posts DJ Sprinkles quote that is commonly posted in /bleep/ as a meme
>/mu/ takes the bait
>/bleep/ laughs at the children of /mu/ talking about "objectively bad", "entry level", "starter packs" and other buzzwords that epitomise why /mu/ is so awful
>>66210178
You should have been aborted son
>>66210200
IGNORING WHAT ARGUMETNS? HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I'VE DEBUNKED EVERY SINGLE "ARGUMENT" (READ: FALLACY) PRESENTED BY MY OPPONENT AND YOU JUST KEEP OND EFAULTING TO "NO YOU ARE WRONG LEL"
>>66210075
>>66210195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSYvsJA-Ua4
>>66210207
bad analogy, because that tranny actually makes something that vaguely resembles deep house
>>66210207
mate you werent in nyc during the early 90s...
this thread is good
>>66210195
Not everybody is as hopelessly ill-informed as you. You don't deserve to be taken seriously. You unironically enjoy DJ Sprinkles. You're an embarrassment.
WHY IS THIS LP BAD?
>>66210195
So you could start droning it in future threads as "look at me I'm so patrishun listen to this you DJ Sprinkles-loving plebs"?
Tough chance bub.
>>66210231
big up senpai
>>66210207
Ok, I get it now. I don't agree, but I get why people don't like it.
>>66210263
it was never released as an LP dumb ass
>>66210264
So you can't post anything better than M120B?
>>66210263
Good deep house can only be made by black trannies.
DJ Sprinkles got only the tranny part right.
>>66210275
This literally had to be explained to you in memes
fucking hell
Holy shit /mu/ is somehow more pozzed than /u/. I'd rather hang out with mentally broken autogynephilic self-hating men than the lowcaps-typing Weird Twitter robots from this thread.
The guys are cunts and you don't tell mentally ill trainwrecks to kill themselves, but I've seen enough to know these Twitter "progressives" are fucking lunatic psychos who will defend worse shit if it comes from the right person and/or if it's done against the right person. If they don't personally do it then they give their silent approval of those who do. These call-outs are the most cliquey shit in the world and are not actually based on any kind of deeply held moral standard.
So fuck the people who whine about this shit as if they're somehow helping marginalized groups. Just separate creator from creation. Don't want to financially support someone? Pirate their shit, problem solved.
Also "WELL MIDTOWN 120 BLUES IS BAD YOU SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE I FUCKING SAY SO AND I'M AN OBJECTIVE FORCE OF NATURE" is the worst fucking excuse for joining the "FUCKING FUCK YOU LE EMBRYO IM ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!!!!" bandwagon against this band but being promoting a guy who's practically a neo-nazi. It makes sense to like his music more than some random shoegaze band but don't pretend you're morally superior. Just stop giving a fuck what musicians think you thin skinned babies.
>>66210311
>this is not copypasta
lmaooooooo
>>66210287
Not your personal Pitchfork m8.
>>66210311
what
>>66210334
>>66210336
Let me know if you find anything better than M120B, and can explain why it's better.
>>66210329
What's your RYM profile again m8te
>>66209783
In Colour
>>66210358
>rym
loool
>>66210355
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I'VE DEBUNKED EVERY SINGLE "ARGUMENT" (READ: FALLACY) PRESENTED BY MY OPPONENT AND YOU JUST KEEP OND EFAULTING TO "NO YOU ARE WRONG LEL"
>>66210334
It does undermine your argument if you say there's better stuff out there, but not saying what it is
>>66210358
go in the thread lad
>>66210371
What have you debunked? You just said "I don't like conceptual music" which is entirely your personal opinion.
>>66210369
um yes the person named "g" has a RYM account, and I asked him what his username was
are you on the spectrum
>>66210309
At least I know why people don't like it now; they're worried about their internet street cred
>>66210424
>having an rym
loool
more seriously, though, have you forgotten what sort of thread this is?
>>66210355
>Let me know if you find anything better than M120B
Again, I'm not here to spoonfeed you you mindless retard of a drone.
>and can explain why it's better.
Explain what makes MT120B good first.
>>66210435
o.k.
>>66210444
>Explain what makes MT120B good first.
The music is very simple but very atmospheric and beautiful. Typically based on Sprinkles' reliance on 7th chords, the music has this constant sensation of loss or passion, a bittersweet emotion.
>>66210491
>The music is very simple but very atmospheric and beautiful. Typically based on Sprinkles' reliance on 7th chords, the music has this constant sensation of loss or passion, a bittersweet emotion.
Other artists did it better.
>>66210491
t. embryo
>>66210508
Then post them and explain how.
>>66210524
Not your personal P4k.
>>66210524
You're a toilet.
>>66210512
t. person who has yet to explain why they like any music
I doubt you even know music theory.
>>66210539
So you can't do it?
holy shit would you just take a look at all the embryos itt
>>66210508
Other artists doing it better doesn't automatically make it bad
>>66210550
You think mentioning 7ths is indicative of somebody bring versed in music theory?
>>66210550
>dance music
>music theory
Average pseudo dance music fan everyone.
Routes Not Roots has more bangers tee bee aitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx38a1rupNw
>>66210583
>>66210586
Are you going to name anything better, and explain how?
>>66210575
Yes it does
>>66210609
So there is literally only one good release, because everything else isn't as good and therefore is bad?
Please mods destroy this thread its cancer
>>66210600
Are you going to enter the body of water nearest to you and make no attempt to stay afloat?
>>66210630
So you can't?
I love this thread lmao. Also m120b is a great album. It's conceptual but for most people thats not a bad thing
Some similar tracks to MT120B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HH7jmowDdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IhNGF_ItOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2XungYDFRM
>>66210628
this whole website is dead man walking
>>66210628
I second this
Who /luomo/ here?
>>66210701
Not an argument.
>>66210649
Vocalcity, the Workshop label, Strictly Rhythm... take your pick you daft cunt
>>66210661
I haven't opened these links so don't know what they are, but stop indulging the one or two spastics in this thread
>>66210687
Vocalcity is a good airplane album.
>>66210714
>le argument man
>le logical fallacy man
>le strawman man
>le fallacious man
>le burden of proof man
>le superior intellect man
>>66210727
I'm just having fun posting good tunes.
/mu/ is clueless when it comes to dance music, so nothing can hurt really.
>>66210727
fucking why? WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN TO THE FUCKING TRACKS YOU FUCKING BITCHBOY. HOLY SHIT I AM SO MAD I WILL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOU. GO FUCKING DIE. LISTEN TO THE FUYCKING TRAAAAAAAAAAAACKS. LISTEN TOT EHM
>>66210714
t. embryo
/bleep/ discusses dance music:
>*have probably seen terre before, or at least given his discography/mixes a decent listen and know a fair bit about deep house*
>"i like these mixes"
>"yeah I agree, he has an interesting mixing style"
>"I'm not a big fan of his attitude"
/mu/ discusses dance music:
>*listened to midtown 120 blues once because p4k told them to*
>ur a pleb
>no ur a pleb
>entry level
>patrician
>ur an idiot
>no u are
>look at this image i whipped up in ms paint, it proves your opinions are wrong
Just stick to swans or whatever anthony fantano is recommending please.
>>66210724
Vocalcity is definitely not better than M120B.
>>66210844
>Just stick to swans or whatever anthony fantano is recommending please.
I've been saying this the whole thread but do you think they listen to me? do they fuck.
>>66210851
Because it's maker wasn't a tranny?
>>66210851
Not even in my top 3 Sasu albums desu
>>66210884
The compositions are far less interesting harmonically and rhythmically.
>>66210851
>meme is definitely not better than meme
What an astute observation, I see you're well versed in dance music.
>>66210851
Vocalcity is more organic and lacks an explicit concept.
>>66210851
>vocalcity, dj sprinkles, the list could go on...
please jsut stop pretending to be into dance music
vocalcity has no soul.
>>66210900
>he unironically thinks this level of """criticism""" justifies his thread-long unrepentant autism
drown
>>66210933
it's all about that groove mane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQ9HstpqcE
>>66209269
actually just started listening to this album, is the cover emma watson?
>>66210968
I actually like the grooves of midtown alot. They aren't propelled by compressed kicks which is unique for house.
I do like vocality and that is a fine track.
>>66210987
yes
Is Stimming minimal or deep house?
>>66210917
Why is lacking a concept a good thing?
This mix tho...
I like how no one could explain how Midtown 120 Blues is bad, only that it's a pleb album.
hint: no one cares, kids.
>>66211036
tech-house, minimal techno
>>66211011
thank god, i thought i was jerking off to a stranger
>>66211052
Because as soon as music becomes just a means for ambiance, as we say, environment, or for being used for certain purposes, then music becomes a whore, and one should not allow that really; one should not serve any existing demands or in particular not commercial values. That would be terrible: that is selling out the music.
>>66211036
I use "mnml" (with no vowels) to describe the kinda deep bassy house/tech quirky stuff like that. Ricardo Villalobos is an obvious example.
>>66211060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbzUItpMHdI
I bought this record in Brooklyn for $2 and now it's one of my all time favorites after hearing it on that mix and separately.
>>66211052
yeah, especially in dance music, wtf are you guys on about
>>66211114
Nice Stockhausen quote that's entirely irrelevant
>>66211133
Dance music isn't allowed to be conceptual?
>>66211114
This is DANCE MUSIC we're talking about. It is an uncontrollable desire to jack your body. it's not about bloody concepts, sure some of it is, but it's not as important.
>>66211157
>This is DANCE MUSIC we're talking about
Precisely. Unlike pseudo-dance music like the OP which isn't about dancing but about paying attention to wanky concepts like >you were never in late 80s chicago were you you melon.
>>66211209
I still don't understand how it's a bad album.
Are you just mad because you're too dumb for a basic album?
"Unlike rock music, rave isn’t oriented around lyrics; for the critic, this requires a shift of emphasis, so that you no longer ask what the music ‘means’ but how it works. What is the affective charge of a certain kind of bass sound, or particular rhythm? Rave music represents a fundamental break with rock, or at least the dominant English Lit and social realist paradigms of rock criticism, which focus on songs and storytelling. Where rock relates an experience (autobiographical or imaginary), rave constructs an experience. Bypassing interpretation, the listener is hurled into a vortex of heightened sensations, abstract emotions and artificial energies." -Simon Reynolds.
>>66211209
Dunno, people were dancing last time I heard Grand Central playing in a club.
>>66211247
SImon Reynolds sounds like a totally ignorant ponce. Instrumental music existed before raves. Christ's sake you're dumb.
>>66211278
I think he means dance music in general and how raves intensified the reaction to sounds that weren't just referential.
>>66211209
*new york
and i don't think addressing the cheesy nostalgic attitude people have towards house music and exploring the realities of its past is too much of a 'wanky concept'
>>66211278
I can assure you that Simon Reynolds knows a hell of a lot more about dance music than you do.
>>66211226
it's a bad album precisely because of it's conceptual album nature, merely by existing it reveals hidden rave secrets to pseudo-intellectual outsiders such as yourself who proclaim it a work of talent and genius when the actual genius lies in individual tracks never issued on album format and never packed with hidden concepts for pseudo-intellectuals who bored by the music search for deeper meanings and find it in said concepts
the best dance albums are 100% tune material, the wank dance albums are 30% tunes 70% conceptualism
>>66211226
>he's still posting
>>66211339
He knows a hell of a lot less about music than me, that's very clear.
Supposing he's another pseudo intellectual "I have a writing degree which means I can talk about music" shitter.
>>66211356
How the fuck does that explain how concepts are bad?
Just be honest, and say "It's not a bad album, but I hate people who only listen to M120B and not other dance music."
Be honest, teenager.
the thing about the "concept" is that it only appears in the beginning of the album, and maybe 2 more spoken word parts. for the majority of the time its just music.
>>66211384
end this thread
end /mu/
>>66211384
desu I haven't listened to 120 blues but to the k-she album and that one was pure wank
just bugging into this convo because hey why not
>>66211384
>He knows a hell of a lot less about music than me, that's very clear.
No, I'm pretty sure that's not true either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbiGfBFaBok
OP made a weird generalization about europeans. in my experience europeans tend to be much more familiar with "real" deep house. people in the states think deep house means Disclosure and Kaskade or whatever
>>66211458
Sorry, but "OP" didn't make that generalization if you were not aware.
>>66211442
Already explained how it was.
>>66211389
and all that music is sombre, minor key, a 'blues' tribute to the 80s midtown scene, and a generally unheard emotionally side in house
>>66211458
lmao
>>66211475
alright enjoy applying conventional music theory on unconventional dance musics laddo
>>66211501
That's a funny way of saying "I have no more 'arguments.'"
>>66211501
>on
*to
>>66211475
I dunno, I think maybe that someone who has been a well respected critic and journalist for the past 30 years, and whose books on post-punk and dance music are pretty much the essential reading for those genres has a bit more credibility than some random twat on a board full of 14 year olds arguing about which BNM album is better.
>>66211518
obv, yours ended over 5 posts ago.
How about you fucks listen to actual chicago house instead of arguing which revivalist trash album is better?
if this thread was a tune which genre would it be?
>>66211713
Shitgaze
>>66211713
tearout
>>66211713
the sound of an anus being torn
Why are Europeans so defensive about genres they didn't even invent?
terre would try to discuss the political significance of tracks during performances, like he would play a track, stop the music cold, and spend ten minutes explaining his reasoning.
also he said he finds his clothes in the trash.
![R-1356-1253332033.jpeg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3o9bUcg.jpg "R-1356-1253332033.jpeg[1].jpg")
don't mind me, just posting the best deep house release of all time
inb4 some passive-agressive bullshit from a /bleep/tard
>>66212056
I agree
>>66212056
I agree
>>66210131
damn you're salty
>>66212056
I disagree
