"goddammit i'll make it" edition
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? what now
gonna ask again:
https://soundcloud.com/jam-city/today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFbb6Waj_A
how do I make drums like that? and do I make them so dynamic(don't know if that's the right word desu)?
also, pointing out any interesting details you hear in the mix would be really helpful. thanks
>>66198091
I dunno but they wanted it.
>>66198213
There's probably a better way but try tape compression and sidechaining. Route all your drum tracks to a single aux and then slap a tape compressor on it. Sidechain synths and bass to kick drum.
>>66198091
what?
>>66154769
I added that particular vocal as a joke but it made me realize that a (rap) vocal actually sounds really good during the build up. Too bad I don't know any decent rappers.
So I posted this in a previous thread asking for help in the build up because I thought It sounded too emtpy. One anon said it sounded fine and another one said it needs some nignogs rapping on it. So that's what I did. (The verse on the seond one it clearly a joke, not a serious verse. I just wanted to see how it would sound.) Need some more opinions.
Example:
https://clyp.it/vswrpfki
First part is with the joke rap verse, second is just a loop. Which do you guys think is better? Keep in mind the stupid verse is just filler until I can find something else.
Also, the beat is only half way done.
>>66200579
>https://clyp.it/vswrpfki
Posted the wrong link.
Should be
>https://clyp.it/l2frjaj4
https://clyp.it/3qxrarrc
hows the mixing engineering wise?
https://www.landr.com/es/how-to-mix
should be on the op tb h
Does anyone have a mother 32? Are you enjoying them? I'm considering getting 3.
>>66202637
I have one. I had fun blowing my own mind patching shit around randomly for a few days. I wish the LFO and filter tracked 1V/Oct. It sounds a lot better than my minibrute but I think I'm kinda already bored of the Mother. I'm standing on the edge of the money pit that is eurorack and it's bumming me out. I can't stop thinking about it but I can see myself blowing all my cash on something I'll probably play for a few hours a week. I don't have anything else I really wanna spend it on tho.
I'm a bitter depressed person however. The Mother is a well built instrument. I'd just buy modules and keep it to one mother tho.
https://clyp.it/0jfvsahq
opinions so far?
mix is still rough, thinking of adding some vocal samples... maybe from an old chicago house track?
>>66200633
>https://clyp.it/l2frjaj4
It definitely needs something there, i don't think a rap verse is it. But i do like how it sounds with a vocal tag after the build up.
>>66202113
>https://clyp.it/3qxrarrc
wow this is really good.
I can't listen on my monitors cause its late, but in my headphones the kick drum sounds a bit boxy.
great sound design btw, what did you use?
>>66202884
just take is slow, start with a eurorack case, then get something else.
i'm currently in the middle of that
>>66202954
>great sound design btw, what did you use?
For which part? Thanks by the way.
>>66203001
Are you regretting it at all? I've been researching eurorack for years. Picking modules to create a unique synth voice. As soon as I started playing with the mother I started thinking I want to try random/generative stuff instead but it has me confused and seems module intensive. Clock dividers, switches, S&H and all that kinda shit. I'm still not really sure how it comes together.
>>66203001
Same here. Probably gonna pull the trigger sometime next month and get a case and a few modules to pair with my ms-20m.
>>66203117
Not him but If you're interested in generative stuff but unsure why not try it digitally first? That's what I did, using max for a few years and then expanding upon it. Starting from scratch in max will really help you understand the mechanics of what is going on too
>>66203117
no regrets, though it is a money pit.
I've already spent over 1k, but bassically only have 2 VCOs and a sequencer.
next purchase will probably be a VCA or envelope generator... simply because they are cheaper than everything else i want
>>66203117
Check out the Make Noise Wogglebug. Use your LFO square out on your Mother to create a clock signal for the Wogglebug, which will output a whole bunch of varieties of randomness.
>>66203322
I've considered the wogglebug but I think I like the look of the SSF Ultra Random Analog a bit more.
I has this brainstorm the other day to run a squareout into the sync of my volca sample to try and do some granular stuff the other day. Didn't quite clock fast enough tho.
>>66203287
I dipped my toes into Max but got sidetracked. I definitely will before I commit much more cash tho. I made a pretty good patch in ableton using a ton of arps, MIDI gates and a ton of MIDI routing. Worked pretty well.
>>66203291
The new MI Veils and Blinds look pretty good for VCA duties.
>>66203405
That SSF Ultra Random Analog is badass, didn't know it existed. It's going into my Modulargrid dream rack.
>>66203465
Since you brought it up.
>>66203103
I'll go ahead and tell you because I'm bored.
Mallet: custom Harlmess patch
Brass: Soundfount
808 bass/boom: Sytrus with very precise evelope settings
(I can provide the patches if you want, but they probably won't sound the same due to external effects and shit).
Pretty much everything else is percussion.
Feel free to ask questions.
who /nocomputer/ here? what's your setup?
>>66202884
>>66203001
Is Eurorack really this addictive? I've been wanting to dedicate a couple of rows (1 or 2) of my rack stand to euro rack. I really can't see myself wanting to buy a new module every week though.
Might just buy the most powerful laptop I can find and run Reaktor on that.
>>66203794
It's addictive until you find exactly what you're looking for, which can be an endless task. When you can add or replace any aspect of your synth with limitless permutations there's always the desire to change something or add a little more.
>>66203794
Check out some of the post your rack pages on Muffwiggler. You start out small, then 5 years down the road you have this, which is pretty goddamn big, but nothing compared to the shit some people have.
>>66203725
I run my Electribe 2 through a reverb pedal straight to my interface. Ocasionally sequence the Blofeld with it as well.
https://clyp.it/bwwxkrjl
I just love creating ambient soundscapes.
Hi ƒams, established composer/sound designer here.
Ready to give advice/answer specific questions for a few mins.
>>66205126
what the hell is that picture talking about?
also how did you get into doing sound design work/what kind of sound design work do you do?
>>66205157
Private joke ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Through luck really...I spent years just making and learning about music and sound. Someone heard my music through a friend and asked me to write music for an advert and it's gone from there.
All sorts, from making digital bleeps and bloops to foley or walking on gravel or whatever.
>>66203725
I'm that asshole who owns a Minimoog and a bunch of other expensive shit. I also recently acquired a Mopho x4.
My live setup consists of:
TR-8
Beatstep pro, controlling a
Dotcom modular and Microbrute
EHX crash pad (dooo drums, very important)
Can't wait to add the Mopho x4 to the setup, I still need to recreate some JX-10 patches.
I'll be traveling a lot in next few months and i need to get some sturdy headphones that are not completely shit for producing, any recs?
>>66205197
Examples of your work?
>>66205318
sony mdr-750
Not the nicest sounding but good for mixing, sturdy and not expensive.
>>66205333
Won't be posting'em, not why I'm here.
If you live in the UK (soon to just be 'k') you will've heard some on ur telly.
ok im oot bye x
https://clyp.it/tmtzyh5r
Started this yesterday, has become a mix of Push Button Objects and Metroid Prime.
Pretty basic stuff for now, just wanted to know if it's balanced correctly.
i made an ableton midi effects rack where one of the macro controls activates/deactivates a series of chord shapes, is there any way to get the macro control to show which device is being currently active (i just named them all for whatever chord shape they are) instead of just a 0-127 value?
hey, anyone know the site that lets you import your soundcloud uploads
i think i used it but can't remember what it's called
any ideas?
>>66203725
OT, 106 and MS20 are my most used. I might go back to computer sequencing though.
>>66206517
Which MS-20? Mini, full size reissue, keyboardless reissue, or vintage?
>>66206582
The mini version
https://clyp.it/meqktwlw
CC GUYS MY NAME IS BOI 1DA
jk
>>66206594
Ah. I had some questions about the other reissues.
Have you used the pitch to voltage tracker? I really want to try it with a mic to get the Goldfrapp sound
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITi6uat0BuQ
>>66206868
I cant listen to what youve posted atm. I have used it though. It didnt track very well with a guitar, but feeding in a loop of percussive vocal sounds as an envelope was cool.
>>66207048
Try this link.
https://youtu.be/ITi6uat0BuQ
I'm not too big on guitar pitch tracking anyways, it's pretty played out.
Goldfrapp just used a mic and apparently that can be tracked better.
Why can't the beap midi object parse channels? is all this stuff catered to M4L instruments or something?
Anyone got good resources for learning all the ins and outs to Serum?
I'm thinking about just subscribing to ADSR for a month to quickly download all their shit.
>>66207414
If you do, i would suck your dick if you would upload them on mega or something.
Anyone have experience with FX/transition dummy clips in ableton?
>>66207620
Oh shit, you know, I used to do that a lot in 8 but haven't in a long fucking time, so totally forgot how. Would be good to relearn.
>>66207667
i've been trying to build them for performing, but they are a pain in the ass to make.
was hoping someone knew of a downloadable pack of some clips and racks
>>66202954
>https://clyp.it/0jfvsahq
bump
anybody here have experience with programmed computer music, i.e. creating music from code?
I'm learning ChucK and its been a lot of fun, and its taught me a lot about what actually goes into making electronic music (more than fucking around in DAWs have). I was curious if anyone else has done anything similar
>>66207921
/comp/, in a sense, is dedicated to this
>>66207947
I'm just talking effects generation and stuff. Programming your own unit generators seems like a pretty powerful skill.
I'm not interested in the compositional side (not right now, at least. Algogen music is p cool tho), I'm asking if any producers have worked it into their stuff.
>>66207921
I don't use DX clones for FM synthesis anymore, I just build my own for specific tasks. If I want to control a modulator by slapping my dick on a mic, u can make that happen.
>>66208090
u should be I
/prod/
How do I synthesis the sound at the beginning of this song. I know it's going to use a fairly percussive envelope and a bit of delay. But how do I get that throaty chunky sound to it? Do I need to tune the oscillators to a specific interval?
https://youtu.be/XiBYM6g8Tck
i just dropped omnisphere, nexus, ozone, komplete, spire, sylenth and all my drumkits to go 100% on legal software.
just got ableton live suite yet. damn how do you even compete against other producers without good software? it's like making fire with stones instead of using a lighter... everything takes much longer and i'm especially missing real sounds. all i can do with free software is digital sounding. i need a damn rompler :(
what to do now? waiting until i can buy good stuff or leaking again?
i could focus on making drum loops until i can afford the plugins, but i want to finish something again...
god damn i miss my plugins :(
but desu i feel much better now because i dont have to hide in the shadows.
>>66209498
just do some research on free vsts, you can do pretty good with the right ones.
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
check it out
Anybody here use / can recommend some motorized faders for FL Studio?
I've got carpal tunnel and using a mouse to adjust stuff is a literal pain.
>>66209668
hahahahahha
>>66209668
If you can't produce with just a mouse, you're probably just bad at it.
>>66209693
>I've got carpal tunnel and using a mouse to adjust stuff is a literal pain.
????
>>66209708
It's just a joke about the guy in the last thread.
Check out the Behrigner BCF2000
One of the few Behrigner products that don't suck
>>66209630
i doubt there are better free vst's than ableton suite stock plugins/soundpacks. what i want is cutting edge sound and cutting edge workflow. it's a pain and i feel extremely slowed down without these plugins.
and meanwhile thousands of other producers work with cracked plugins and have an advantage.
guess i'll stick to 100% legal anyways, because i really feel like ethics get me out of the dark place.
>>66209809
there are check them out
>>66209753
the motors are loud af tho
>>66209753
Thanks! Seems to be what everyone recommends
>>66209842
Should be fine for a mic-free environment though, eh
>>66209842
So am I, but that doesn't mean I'm going to keep myself outside of the studio.
>tfw when creative block and can't come up with a decent lead synth or melody
>>66208723
Nobody wants to take my post seriously because it's the Macarena.
Either that, or its some truly top level synthesis going on in there.
>>66210148
sounds like fifths
>>66209917
>>66210053
imagine trying to mix on monitors while there is a bunch of metal gears clanking in front of you with every volume change.
>>66210148
it's probably just a preset on some 90s rompler
>>66210233
he's asking about the sound design, not what's happening musically
>>66210148
tbhfam i wasn't taking you seriously
just guessing here, but it might just be 2 oscolators tuned apart, and then a quick chord is played on the keys.
>>66210496
>>66210403
>>66210233
I already got a rough approximation by using a snappy EG and oscillators tuned a 5th apart. Still doesn't sound "hollow" enough.
how do I make my drums sound organic? like evry hit sounding a little different?
>>66210872
Put chorus followed by a little reverb on them.
Additionally, vary the velocity of the drum hits.
>>66211151
that's smart, thank you
>>66210872
dave pensado covers a bunch of different tips for that in this video. he's using protools, but you can do this stuff in any daw .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4gPKeM7bqQ&feature=youtu.be&list=PLFC57D274A1E94943
Any reason to use 48khz instead of 44.1khz sample rate?
>>66211363
to get those sweet, sweet extra 3.9khz
nah but for real, i dont really think so
>>66210143
come up with a bad one and keep going until you get it right
>>66211363
The whole reason 48khz sample rate exists is film synchronization. For some reason 44.1khz doesn't sync well with video software so it usually isn't even an option for that kind of stuff.
There is no actual audible difference between 44.1khz and 48khz like there is with 44.1khz and 96khz. Anyone that says otherwise has no clue why 48khz exists.
>>66210872
If you're using MIDI, reaper has a humanize function. I think it's command H on a mac.
I use pro tools but I like exporting MIDI into reaper just to humanize it. You can randomize the timing and velocity to whatever percentage you want.
>>66211363
It's standard practice to record above the quality that you plan to release it as. So if you're releasing as 16bit 44.1k, you record at 24bit 48k. If your music ever made it into a movie or something you'd want it to be 48k for the DVD.
>>66211622
i thought protools also had a humanizing/randomizing feature?
post your gear and a WIP.
I want to know if privilege translates well into music
>>66211986
>>66211219
this is great
>>66209498
Did you download all the extras that come with ableton? There's a lot of sampled instruments in there.
>>66212005
Its like i really just posted a track to sound clouds
>>66211974
So it does; I should have known that. I knew you could randomize the timing but I didn't notice the velocity menu
>>66211986
>obligatory jelly poorfag post
>>66212276
are you a fucking chicken or something?
let some ears with actual real life experience judge if you have been wasting your dad's money
>>66212005
I Want Original Costume High Quality Instrumentals Please!
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>>66212726
I must say getting such a software in this slow price is incredible. If you are into music and you love to compose your own music, this is for you. You can party like crazy and people will be impressed.
Hey all, simple question for you.
I have an exported 24 bit wav master of my seamless album. I am now chopping it up at zero points in a new session.
Does it need to be dithered again on export since it was already dithered to 24 on the master export?
I notice when exporting again it says converting to 24 but that's confusing since to my knowledge it is already at 24. Ableton 9 btw.
Thanks
>>66212726
>actually typing all of this
>>66211986
This is me >>66202113
I used a alpha juno for one of the layers of the pluck sound that comes in halfway through the other stuff are vsts I have other gear doe, minibrute dx7 jp8080....
>>66202954
>wow this is really good
Thanks mang like I said above lots of vsts spire for the gritty sound, modular v for the other gritty sound and plucks were a mix of spire zebra massive fm8
I would listen to ur choon but I'm at work
>>66205126
Buddy if ur still here give my track a listen how is it engineering wise??>>66202113
>>66212583
You have me confused with some imaginary character that you've made up. I'm just pointing out that you're playing the obligatory angry poor jobless kid.
How can I get the kind of sometimes-clean, sometimes-squelchy synth that Chad Hugo used on Kenna's debut?
Example: https://youtu.be/9f94vUoYyFY
>>66212583
>is somebody bought a piece of gear, they clearly didn't earn the money themselves
>it was daddy's money
The only thing you're really convincing anyone is that you have daddy issues
first time posting in this general
how do i learn to produce like big moe/dj screw senpaitachi?
>>66211564
>no actual audible difference
>Extra 1.45kHz of sparkle
wew lad
>>66213036
You know full well that's not the point
>>66212798
some people don't dither at all
don't dither twice
sometimes I dither 4-6 times
Just to bug that anon
>>66213110
You said something that was false. I'm just pointing out that it's false
w8 i just looked it up and the dither once on the final mix then again on the master
conflicting. ... . .. i n f o r m a t i o n
not a mastering guy so idk
>>66213218
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>>66213218
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>>66213218
I don't dither at all tbqh.
what even is a dither lmaos...
put a donk on this bump
Contriboot to prodwiki please.
>>66209498
>but desu i feel much better now because i dont have to hide in the shadows
what
>>66209809
>guess i'll stick to 100% legal anyways, because i really feel like ethics get me out of the dark place.
I just read this from a site where I bought some instruments for Kontack.
>Man, your products are gnarly. Can I give a copy to my bud? He’s got this band. It would just be for, like, his personal use.
Get a haircut, you hippie. And of course you can’t do that. Tell your bud to check down the back of his sofa and see if he can’t find his own £5 for a legit download. How are we going to buy more weird shit from car boot sales if you pirate our products? “It’s just for, like, personal use” might cut it for weed, but not for software
It made me laugh. Seriously though anon I did exactly the same as you a few years back and never looked back. It has kept my plugins down to the bare minimum I need and has helped me know them a lot more intimately.
>>66216575
wow... now i wanna pirate their shit just to spite them for being so smug about it lol
https://clyp.it/jjcnfnof
wip
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Tl5k94FSjo
rate muh tone and mixing, I'm living with a 15w spider iv that's tryin hard (but I do have a perty ampeg ba110 :3)
HERE'S A HOT TIP:
Use these cheap shit label zip ties to label the ends of your audio cables and POWER cables so you know what the fuck each one is without having to trace them through the rabbit warren of shit behind your desk.
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Marker-Cable-18LBS-100pcs/dp/B003L13A7K
https://clyp.it/bcn4i5lp
ayy guys whatdya think about this? feedback appreciated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe_lFAcJBt4
thoughts on the latest stupid god damn gear teaser video?
Sup /prod/, /gg/ here. Can you guys recommends me a cheap ($150ish) rack mount synth module, or should I take my sorry ass to /bleep/? Fx not necessary
>>66219714
>/bleep/
Hahaha, fuck no, unless you want them to insult you in chavspeak and tell you to get a DAW.
>$150
Maybe an E-mu Proteusor or a novation A station
>>66219714
They don't pump out <$300 synths like they do with guitars. There's always underpriced used gear out there, but there's no point in recommending something that you'd need serious luck to find.
>>66219714
I bought an oberheim matrix 1000 for around 150 a few years ago (maybe 50 or so more than that i cant remember). Just had to camp ebay for awhile. People try to sell them for significantly more but thats stupid.
Anyway, its a poly analog, if thats your thing. They suck dick to program, but you can get a software editor for them. And there's 1000 patches of 80s cheese already in the thing.
Are Roland synths the music equivalent of Nintendo?
>Made a ton of cool shit in the 80s
>Milked it for all it's worht and pumps out watered down versions of it over the past 30 years
>>66220850
what's nintendo's gaia?
>>66220850
>had a period of 2000s garbage
>started recently putting good things out again
Sounds about right
>>66221166
Gameboy micro
>>66197995
>got my Microbrute in the mail the other day
help me I can't stop playing it.
>>66221213
The only cure is to buy more gear, that will get you to stop playing with it.
anyone else fo through spells of bot making anything for maonths and some months making two tracks a week?
>>66221368
i think we all fo through spells of bot making
>when your vocalist goes full retard and sends you shit recorded on their phone
Am I just incompetent or is it possible for a skilled producer to make phone recorded vocals sound good? It sounds like someone put a hard ass compressor on her voice and there's nothing I can do to get those dynamics back. I'm just dumbfounded that she thinks it's okay, because she's not a bad producer herself.
>>66221828
Post a tiny clip and I'll see If I can make magic happen.
>>66217170
i need more of this
>>66221881
She said it stopped working so she had to use her phone. When I told her that lo-fi vocals wouldn't fit the song she insisted it's fine. Sure, I have little experience with vocals but It's reasonable to just not work with the recordings, right? I don't want to make myself or her sound bad because of it.
>>66221902
I honestly think she may lurk here so I won't post anything, sorry.
>>66218435
I use little strips of duct tape but that works too
>>66222053
Post the waveform, and a snap of the spectrum, and I can tell you how fucked you are.
>>66222151
lol no you can't
>>66219714
how much time are you willing to spend menu diving?
analog or digital?
look at your local craigslist/online classifieds. there's tons of lesser known brands/models that go a lot cheaper than the usual overpriced memes like the junos and whatnot. just make sure you listen to A LOT of demos and read reviews/specs on vintagesynth
>>66222192
Not that guy, but actually you can tell a lot from looking at a waveform.
A sausage looking waveform will tell you that it's been compressed too much. You also can identify any clipping points.
With a spectrum analysis, you can tell if the recording is missing harmonics in certain bands, so if a cell phone didn't capture the body of the voice, you can tell from just looking instead of having to listen to it.
>>66221828
>>66222053
Reiterate that your comments are about the fidelity of the recording, separate from the performance or the part itself. If the part and performance are worth having in a track then why compromise? If it would take only a few minutes to re-record, what's the downside?
How can I get a similar sound to the drums in this? It seems pretty basic but I really like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dPRsWcGxlY
>>66223413
cut off low ends, keep the mids. fast attack, no release Not that hard
if anybody else out there uses a kaoss pad 3 i'd highly recommend swapping out the input volume knob for a smaller one.
i just did it to mine with a knob about the size of the ones on a mini mpk and i'm already loving the feeling of the extra space above the fx depth knob
>>66223413
According to my right ear, they are from drum machines, get ahold of 'the machine' or a similar compilation of drum machines from the 80s and keep it simple, no layering. Use variations in velocity to break the monotony.
>>66224244
>>66223773
I figured it was a drum machine guess I should've elaborated a bit more, I like the sequences especially with the shakers. I'll just fuck around with some samples until I get it down, but how can I sequence shakers and tambourines to make them sound realistic like that? Do I have to edit the samples or can I just sequence them differently?
>>66224570
Gotcha, I didn't exactly pay much attention to the shakers the first time around. These definitely sound live to me, recorded with a mic close up.
Your best option is to find a multisampled shaker library, most of the ones I know of are for Kontakt.
Check out wavesfactory W-Shaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syOLBXq7FKY
Or Nine Volt Audio Shimmer and shake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFO-IZRzoY0
The thing about shakers is, if you are going for realism, you need much more than a single sample. These libraries have multiple velocity samples, and also separate samples for each chunk of the shaker motion, so you can sequence a realistic riff. Your midi should include a few different articulations for the shaker, alternating to get it sounding real.
>>66224738
Thanks, I'll check these out. I was guessing I'd need multiple samples, I think my MPC can edit the velocity on some of those so I'll try copying samples and messing around with that too.
Also are there any good free/cheap sampling VSTs/software? I like the MPC especially for drums but I wanna try some other things
https://clyp.it/hiiqrw2r
hello, is this any good? I'm not quite done with it yet
>>66225048
im not huge into using drum loops but in my experience if you want a live sound for something like shakers, just downloading some loops might be the best way to go.
>>66225834
>>66225834
nice vibe
really like all of the parts you have. they create a good amount of dissonance with each other while not being overbearing. i think your 808 bass might have a bad note or two, or maybe just detuned too much.
Has anyone here used a raspberry pi as a USB MIDI host? If so do you have a link to the startup script you used? Did you do it in raspbian?
Anyone got any nice mixing and mastering guides for retards?
Everything I touch turns to shit.
https://soundcloud.com/fjrn-1/balloon-1
>>66208723
>>66210148
>>66210646
Tbh famalam, it sounds like something out of the DX.
>>66219714
Korg M1R, Korg M3R, novation bass satiation,
>>66203840
I understand that you are saying to a certain degree, but do any of these guys even know what it is they are looking for? It's almost like the guys that post on muff wiggler with these huge arsed setups have some kind of mental illness where even if they had 10 of every single euro module ever made they would still need something else to get that certain sound?
>>66204011
Yeah I went to muffs to try and find some info on starting a small beginner modular system i.e a small system containing a few modules. You know 2 or three, maybe four or five....but not a 9u rack full....that's not a small beginner setup...although the that is what seems to be recommended for a small begginer setup!?
>>66208723
>>66229506
On second thought, could be a generic 80s digital subtractive synth with some bass-like waveform pitched up. I've gotten pretty close to the timbre with SQ8L, with clav and bass2. Filter doesn't sound right on it, so it's probably added on a sampler. Some of the "hollowness" is due to sample rate reduction from sampling too.
Anyway, there. That's your starting point.
Could I get some feedback on this track i wrote using Famitracker? Not even sure if this is the right place, sorry if it isn't.
https://clyp.it/yuttoltc
>>66230967
i love this. sounds really authentic. a lot of chiptune shit ends up sounding kitschy and fake but this sounds genuine. nice melodies too.
https://clyp.it/zkiic0bv
working on a juke track but i have no idea what to do with it.
>>66231927
>https://clyp.it/zkiic0bv
wow, first time seeing juke in /prod/
sounds like a really good start. I'd add some down pitched hip hop vocal chop to that last part. maybe just part of one word and use it as you would a percussion hit then swap out that chop for another one as the song progresses.
>>66232068
bringin in the juke back baby!!
but thank you, that's a good idea. time to start fishing for some old school vocal tracks
>>66230967
this could literally be from a NES game in my childhood. nice work
its all good, but i think my least favorite part is the slower middle. i think it needs more rhythmic/percussive elements even tho its quite.
>>66231909
Thanks heaps!
>>66232251
Cheers for the feedback. I wasn't sure about the middle myself,
Just got back from an interview at a reasonably large studio.
I'm free to start whenever i want as a junior engineer. sweet. That's made the day slightly better.
>>66231927
>https://clyp.it/zkiic0bv
Bring that hi-hat down in volume a little, pan it off a little harder, probably around 30%, it's sounding a little too central atm. Also sounds fresh out of a vengeance sample pack so maybe also take some more lows out of it and high pass as much as you can before you start losing the good stuff.
Not too sure on the chord progression after the "drop". It may just be the synths that are putting me off. It's certainly interesting though, perhaps a more plucky sound would fit a little better? Experiement.
>>66230967
>https://clyp.it/yuttoltc
Holy shit, so NES. Love it. However your bass synth is kind of booming, there's some low mids in that that don't sound quite right, if you do a search and cut on it then you could clean it up a little.
>>66228699
https://lakeishak129.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/the-mixing-engineers-handbook-2nd.pdf
That's something a friend of mine read once, said it was okay. Though if you really want a super comprehensive guide then here...
>EQ high pass pretty much everything to at least 50-120Hz unless it's a bass, in which case around 50-70 is fine depending on the song, sometimes the kick drum is the bass giver and other times it's the bass.
>Compression is your friend.
>Reverbs are important but if you go overboard it will sound like shit. Only drown things in reverb for effect, when it comes to simply placing a sound in a space, it's usually better to have the sound as dry as possible with the reverb just making it sound more natural. Of course this is genre dependent.
>Use your entire stereo field. Pan shit.
By the way, your track doesn't sound as bad as you think it does, sounds better than my early stuff. Some low cutting on the pads would be ideal.
It's pretty good actually
>>66222192
yes you can, to a degree
https://clyp.it/4iqstens
why does my kick sound like such shit on laptop speakers?
it sounds good in headphones but when I listen on laptop speakers the kick is unbelievably distorted
pls don't tell me "oh it's just cuz laptop speakers suck"
when I listen to other artists the kick translates from laptop speakers to headphones
what am i doing wrong?
>>66232998
you've just opened your first page in the book of mix engineering
>>66232998
>https://clyp.it/4iqstens
Honestly, it is because it's laptop speakers, it's not a terribly bassy kick, it's got quite a sharp attack though and probably has enough bass to clip your speaker output. That would explain the distortion. The other artists have mixed the music for starters. Most individual samples sound shit played through a laptop speaker on their own. To be honest i didn't like the sound of that kick through my monitors either.
>>66233048
alright i'll just trash it
I realized that the hardest part of production was getting tight drums so I started creating drum loops before anything else and snares are pretty simple but I just can't get my kicks to sound nice
this is one of my kicks in a mixed track
https://clyp.it/j3ovmzxi
>>66233202
>https://clyp.it/j3ovmzxi
now that's nice, i've not cared for electronic for quite a while but that's good.
Well if you have a good sounding kick that's just lacking impact then look at layering it, or using an enveloper to boost the initial transient in volume to kick it a harder hit, i do that quite often with metal drums in mixes, of course this can do the opposite too, you can soften transients with an enveloper. Compression and layering is good to remember though.
>>66232975
>EQ high pass pretty much everything to at least 50-120Hz unless it's a bass.
No. Just no. Do you like tinny mixes? Because that's how you get tinny mixes.
Can anyone rec. a good modular vst/au? Seen a YouTube add for one that looked bretty cool but can't remember it now
>>66233260
well thanks :) glad you enjoyed it
but yeah i'm familiar with all that and i can make a kick that sounds tight and punchy and then i unplug my headphones and it's just deflating because it sounds so fucked
if you're not sure don't worry about it i'll just go do some more googling
>>66233321
actually no. i don't like tinny mixes, that's not how you get tinny mixes. You have the instruments that cover that particular part of the spectrum focussing on that range. Having a bass producing your low end but also having guitars with LOW RUMBLE at around 130Hz then you'll have them stepping on the toes of the bass. That's causes horrible bass buildup and booming sounds. also...
https://clyp.it/ln3p32kq
https://clyp.it/zntclywr
are those tinny? no?
>>66233376
yeah it's actually a pretty great track. Yeah i'm not too sure since i've never really had to solve that issue before. Always listen on my monitors or headphones.
>>66233369
Sonigen.
Vaz.
Karmafx.
Arturia.
>>66233411
Sure, remove the rumble, but having a high-pass on everything by default is horrible advice in my opinion. Also can't listen to clyps now.
>>66233447
Thanks family will check these out when I sober up
>>66233447
well that's what i meant, low end rumble in pretty much everything. Anyway, 50-120 is very low, you're not getting into the tinny region until upper mids. low end rumble is always bad.
also yes sonigen is pretty good.especially for freeware
>>66233521
Yeah, sorry, my bad, might have misinterpreted things.
It's going to go paid at an unspecified point in the future.
>>66233501
There's also ACE. Or any u-he synth, really, they allow for some patching in one form or another.
>>66233618
no worries, i think we both did.
get it downloaded then everyone.
I'm just upset that my main sound design tool for some awesome glitchy and retarded space noises that i used in my dissertation is 32bit only and due to my computer dying and a forced upgrade to logic x from 9 i can't run 32bit without a bridge, that costs money.
>>66209498
do you feel some moral dilemma about illegal software? its not 2005 anymore
>>66232998
Sounds bad on speakers tbqh. It sounds like someone kicking a cardboard box.
>>66209498
>tfw have thousands of dollars of pirated software but it doesn't matter cause I still can't do jack shit with it
Some thoughts please. with the mix, composition, anything and everything. I need it
https://clyp.it/bny2hxiq
>>66234150
examples? may be able to offer pointers
>>66233369
Reaktor blocks obviously.
>sounds great.
>have access to thousands of user made modules
>can build your own modules if you need something that isn't included or already built in the user base
>can hook it up to your hardware modular system
>>66233913
yeah i already trashed
i was just using it as an example as to the distorted clipping sound a lot of my kicks make when played through laptop speakers
>>66234648
>sounds great
I haven't heard filters that good on a plugin for a while, desu. Shame it eats up half of my cpu.
>>66234306
Don't really have any examples, my problem is that I have ideas and I know how to make sounds, my problem is figuring out how to put those ideas into sound
>>66234891
I guess you can't really compromise much on sound quality.
>sounds great-heavy cpu load
>sounds alright-low cpu load
Hopefully in 10 years time computers will be able to handle this problem.
Hey guys quick question.
I've been listening almost solely to utaite for the last year. I'm almost obsessed. (My favorites are REOL and nqrse) I'm thinking of making my own. I considered this now because I'm moving to a bigger place with lower rent, so I'll have the place and the money. I first wanted to find my range, I was going to follow this video https://youtu.be/9IejHKpfHso but I don't know what sound I'll make/how I should sing this. I have heard from people my voice is a bit high for a male, (makes sense since I'm a bit feminine, long hair and all) but I still can't find out my real range. I'm thinking of buying a entry level microphone, somewhat trying to soundproof my sound recording room, and just covering songs I like.
Any kind of tips, advice, anything really is appreciated.
>>66235087
Personally, I think that there should be some sort of DSP solution to this. I've used some software that's like that, where it runs everything on (proprietary) DSP and keeps the workload off of the computer. It's a very elegant solution, but it doesn't work with any other software.
>>66233447
>cutting out low rumble to make room for bass and kicks by default is a horrible idea
Hey /prod/, what's the best piano vst out there?
>>66235327
Learn2read.
Also, some interplay in the low frequencies keeps the mix interesting.
>>66235545
Download sforzando and get Piano in 162.
>>66235565
thanks bb <3
>>66235565
>having a highpass on everything by default is horrible advice
Your exact words homie. I can read just fine.
>>66235623
>Sure, remove the rumble
Also my words.
>>66235674
>Sure, do this, but doing this by default is horrible advice
how to I get a loop mode and what do you recommend for making an intro and outro? I'm at the point where I can make a good 2-4 bar loop but still have trouble with basslines and intro/outro
>>66235565
>some interplay in the low frequencies keeps the mix interesting.
>SOME
HPF is what determines some from a lot
>>66235762
*out of loop mode
>>66233321
>high pass at 50-120hz
>that's how you get tinny mixes.
I'm tearing my hair out trying to get this mix right.
No matter what I do it just seems to sound like shit.
anyone got any tips?
https://clyp.it/gn3inxtr
>>66235235
No help?
>>66236266
High pass everything at 12,000 hz
>>66235783
It determines some from none, actually. Most filters also introduce phase shift. Low shelf is a better option.
Look, my point is doing anything by default is dumb. Listen first, cut second.
>>66236266
>https://clyp.it/gn3inxtr
>re-record that acoustic guitar for a start, the intro has some horrible sounds. Mistakes from the performance.
>Cut low end from your reverbs, it's making it kind of muddy.
>All sounds are lacking impact/pronounced transients.
>Sounds like you were singing nervously/quietly. Just too much air in the vocals.
>Bass sounds a little muddy, not focussed low end at all, give that a clean up, so cut some lows from it (not too much though) and have a second version of it. Ideally you would have recorded at least 2 takes one AMP and one DI, amp usually has nicer low end and the DI has some nice midrange and honk
>way too much reverb in general
>drums could do with a little more sparkle.
It's not actually that bad, just lacking focus, everything sounds kind of bland and messy, though i like that fleeting lead line, really nice.
>>66236371
>doing anything by default is dumb
>do what I say by default
>>66236560
Moron.
>>66236575
>oh no he called out my inconsistency
>quick call him a moron that will surely win the day
>>66236384
>Cut low end from your reverbs, it's making it kind of muddy.
fuck me that's a really good idea. Never even thought about that. and yeah I'll chill on the 'verb in general as well.
I'll try recording a DI'd bass as well.
Thanks anon :)
>>66236266
Turn down reverb a bit. Just compress the middle part too desu.
>>66236622
don't mention it, it's usually low end in reverbs that cause people issues. Reverbs should add a nice mid-high end space to the sound, putting reverbs on and covering the bass frequencies will just make them seem both muddy but also put a space on them which is not ideal since you want bass to be focussed and punchy (relatively of course, depending on genre).
Yeah in future just record the bass with two inputs for each performance. So a DI and a mic. I got a really nice bass sound using a DI, sm57 on axis to get the aggression and higher end and an akg d112 slightly off axis at around 30 degrees to get the weight.
this is it actually
https://clyp.it/dc4endif
Also, compress your low end as well, evens out the inconsistencies since whilst low frequencies have longer waves they are also quite inconsistent in volume and need more "power" than high end, hence why compression on bass is so vital.
>>66236733
>>66236622
in fact, dug out the pic. if you can do, throw mics at things and experiment.
>>66236733
>>66236845
>Yeah in future just record the bass with two inputs for each performance
I wish I could, lol. My current setup is bassless/base-amp-less so I've been pitching down 6strings
>>66234305
It's good
What is exactly the instrument playing the riff?
A weird clavinet? A guitar placeholder?
I would have enjoyed the drums mixed a bit higher ( especially the kick drum ) but i'm a drummer so i may not be objective
I'm also the guy from /comp/
>>66237085
>(
ah man, you don't want to be doing that, it's never going to sound right.
just do what you can but i would suggest that in the place of a real bass you don't pitch down 6 strings due to some nasty artefacts you can get from pitch shifting.
Give some midi bass guitars a go. most suck but some patches can sound okay, with enough velocity tweaking you can get there.
>>66234305
Oh hey it's the porn clavinet.
Hi /prod/
https://clyp.it/guxvlxaw
I've only programmed drums and bass i'm planning to add pads, leads and maybe a slightly trancy arp but i still would enjoy opinions about this in its current state
>>66236371
>>66233447
>>66233321
>>66235565
since when does any "interesting" frequency harmonics exist across multiple tracks below 120hz?
we are talking about the range which is the least dynamic and most problematic on speakers.
High passing everything is SOP in the industry. But apparently there are teenagers on /mu/ that didn't know this.
also removing 50-120hz doesn't produce tinny mixes, kek.
>got a tinny mix bro?
>just sprinkle some 50-120hz
>fix it right up
>>66236357
That's not a nice answer
>>66230967
There are a lot of dissonances and weird inversions. Work on the harmonies.
>>66237389
We should just mix sinewaves.
>>got a tinny mix bro?
>>just sprinkle some 50-120hz
>>fix it right up
That's some false equivalency bro.
>Forgot to add flour to the cake?
>Just bake it and add it in later
>Fix it right up
>>66230967
> Not even sure if this is the right place, sorry if it isn't.
It def is
Anyone else is stuck on making loops?
I know music theory and everything, is not like I wouldn't know which cord should or "could" come up next but it's just impossible for me to finish a track.
FUCK PRODUCING.
https://clyp.it/4rhdavqv
r8?
https://soundcloud.com/jinsangbeats/summers-day-version-2
I wanna mess around with the song this track sampled and do something similar -- Summer's Day from Spirited Away -- but I can't quite quite figure out what part of the song is sampled+looped at the beginning. I figured out the rise, but the main loop really is nowhere to be found.
Can you lads help out?
Here's the song for reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsbro4E6r18
>>66237275
arrgh, I know I know. MIDI bass just makes me think of Seinfeld lol.
>>66237751
haha that's fair. i had to use it once, regretted it. Also had the joys of a bassist that was unbelievably shit. I didn't have the heart to take his tracks and delete them and just replay it myself.
I guess once you can get your hands on a bass, even just doing a couple of tracks through an interface into a simulated bass amp would be better.
>>66237389
If you wanna make boring cookie cutter pop then it's standard to high pass. I'm sure this dude was thinking all about high passing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-jsaghisA
>>66237727
Nevermind, figured out it's the whole song just fucked with.
Now I can't figure out how he fucked with it.
>>66237825
Or if you want to make stuff that, you know, sounds good
>>66237825
ah yes, below 120hz... those frequencies are reserved for the deep cuts
Where do you look for your samples beside soulseek, youtube and field recordings?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Tl5k94FSjo
how does my production sound on this test? I'm using a pdmic78 with my podstudio ux2 into reaper, there's two guitar tracks and a bass track here
>>66238212
vocaroo compress terribly you should use clyp, picosong, shit like that
I guess it's quite alright for bm still your drums sound really programmed
>>66237825
>I'm sure this dude was thinking all about high passing.
apparently he was, cause the only things that make it below 120hz is the kick and the tail end of one of the many bassy tracks.
i think the problem is what you think <120hz attributes to in music versus what it actually attributes to.
https://clyp.it/bfepmpbu
>>66197995
Just got an Akai MPK Mini Mk2 (my first midi controller) and this is the first thing I've done with it so far:
https://clyp.it/p24rdzbm
>>66197995
My friend wants to be a rapper. Honestly it sounds like fun project.
What software/equipment do we need?
>>66209693
What software do you need to produce with just a mic? is audacity enough<?
>>66238413
Lol terrible choice, you can't make music at all with only 25 keys
Anything less than 88 keys is for faggots
>>66238507
Mostly just using it for the drum pads and making basslines or basic piano parts like in that track, I have another keyboard for actually playing music lol
>>66238507
yep, midi controller must haves right here
>88 keys
>mono midi
>>66238507
meme
>>66238543
You wasted your money anon :(
>>66204011
Why do you need an oscilloscope and a multimeter to produce music
>>66238578
I don't really think so, it'll suite my purposes. Just wanted something small I could mess around with and get the feel for the drum pads mostly.
This obviously isn't a be-all and end-all purchase lol
>>66238649
You're wrong anon I'm sorry :( mpk minis are complete shit
