How different would the general opinion on Weezer be if Rivers had killed himself after Pinkerton?
they would be the nirvana of emo
>>66112940
if he killed himself we wouldn't have gotten their best album
>>66112970
>they would be the nirvana of emo
this, absolutely legendary status
>Think of all the music we've missed out on...
>>66113040
after Pinkerton
>>66113092
Pinkerton > Blue > White > Green > EWBAITE > Maladroit > Red > Hurley > Make Believe > Raditude
>>66113211
>Green above Maladroit
>>66113211
>Green above EWBAITE
>>66113269
That's not a very good album
>>66113211
As we just said, his best album, Pinkerton.
>>66113269
it was a close call i know, i feel like EWBAITE was the return to normalcy that was necessary for White to be so great, but Green already is that normalcy in my opinion which is why it is above it
>>66112940
They would have probably have been considered the Joy Division of the 90's
>>66112970
This is correct, Blue's classic status would be cemented and Pinkerton would have become legendary
>>66113710
/thread
Pinkerton > Blue > White > EWBAITE = Maladroit > green > red > Hurley > Make Believe > Raditude
Objective
>>66113395
>Green is normalcy
wow
>>66113211
I think you mean
Pinkerton>Blue>White>EWBAITE>Maladroit>Green>Red>Hurley>Red>Make Believe>Raditude
>>66113211
>>66112940
Pinkerton is literally only enjoyable for edgy teenage misogynists so if anything, if Rivers killed himself he would have just been seen as an edgy twentysomething that made music for children and then died and nothing would change
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Raditude is Weezer's best album. Now before you groan, this isn't some contrarian opinion, this is objective fact. With this album the band shows their true colors: shallow, tasteless, banal, trend-hopping talentless hacks. Instead of Rivers hiding behind adolescent, pseudo-intellectual "deep" lyricism, he immerses himself in the kind of hallow, bland pop writing he represents at heart. Instead of dipping their toes in different styles like in the past, they go full-on, even bringing on Lil' Wayne to complete the scene. Raditude is Weezer at their most primal - stupid, angsty, and immature, and it's better to embrace that fact than to continue hiding behind a false sense of depth. Raditude is a more honest record than anything else Weezer has attempted, because it strips away every pretense and put-on they have cheated two generations of GenXers and Millennials with for over 20 years. Every Weezer album is ultimately an exercise in formulaic mediocrity (especially intelligence-insulting Pinkerton), but Raditude gives it to us straight: bad, but no bullshit. Every kissless virgin Weezer "fan" is oblivious to how truly awful they are, even during their so-called "classic period". They've proved nothing beyond their less-than-basic understanding of what makes a hit, and even then I balk at whoever was moronic enough to support the band by making their songs hits to begin with. Fuck Weezer, and fuck every loser who likes them.
>>66113239
>>66113269
I agree with him, O Girlfriend is literally in Rivers top five compositions
The opener is Weezer's third best opening song (though it just barely beats the one on EWBAITE)
I'm >>66113888
>>66113802
didn't read this, this dude has it right
at least I got trips
I NEVER HEARD
OF PAPERFACE
UNTIL I MOVED
OUT TO THE WEST COAST
>>66113888
This is the correct Weezer power rankings. I'd throw whatever Songs from the Black Hole demos in between Blue and White
>>66112940
Here's a better one: how different would the world be if Hatfield joined al-qaeda after r Reload?
>>66113211
Pinkerton > Blue >>> Green > Maladroit > EWBAITE > White >>> Red > Hurley > Make Believe > Raditude
>>66114344
Back to the Shack, California Kids, and Pork and Beans are Blue/Pinkerton-tier, too.
>>66113998
forgot that, sorry
>Unironically putting White above EWBAITE
Came into this thread to inform you people that you are all wrong.
>>66114641
Don't forget to tell them both albums are mediocre, and the only reason people "like" them is because they aren't total absolute garbage like the preceding few albums.
>>66114675
no
EWBAITE was fucking great. White was also pretty decent. Also, Maladroit was good but gets lumped along the rest of the garbage.
>>66114722
Do kids born in the 90s really believe this?
>>66114820
I only got into Weezer in my 20s though. EWBAITE is still solid power pop. Also, the whole feel of redemption and awareness through the record gives it a nice personality boost.
>>66114886
Ah, getting into weezer just this year might explain why you think those albums aren't the definition of pandering mediocrity
>>66114958
Got into them when EWB came out iirc. Listened to that and Pinkerton before Blue. Still think EWB is great.
>>66115454
Well that's fine as along as you don't mind being wrong
