Did it really deserve a 1?
I love the fact that this album has almost 0.5 points lower score on rym than their other ones
>>66112685
probably after the review
I think it is objectively worse than their other albums.
>>66112662
there are no albums worthy of a 1/10
As a person who likes DGD, yeah. It's their worse release thus far. They really need Jonny Craig back. He pretty much carried the band.
>>66113182
this
>>66112662
I personally give it a 3 honestly
it's pretty bad but he rated worse ones higher so i'm not sure
>>66113182
>not using the full scale
baka
So what's the best DGD album? Downtown Battle Mountain?
>>66112662
"These passages make 5 Seconds of Summer look like the next Minor Threat"
SAVAGE
>>66113662
whats the full scale broski?
>>66113182
There are 0/10 albums man, I can think of quite a few. Like the albums that are being funded on kickstarter because the walking tits can play a guitar and make noise with its mouth.
Post Hardcore is a bad genre, prove me wrong.
>>66113879
>There are 0/10 albums man
Not possible
>I can think of quite a few
Name them
>>66112662
I've never listened to Dance Gavin Dance but everything I've heard about them makes me think I'd be into them or think they're the worst band ever.
I like shit like Glassjaw and The Fall of Troy so are they similar to them or more scenecore rap-rock shit?
>>66113879
i get what ur saying, but referring to a studio album, no matter how terrible can't be a 1 or 0/10
>>66113922
did you read the rest of the post?
https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/categories/music
>>66114078
the kickstarter shit often becomes studio made
>>66113182
>>66113608
Listen to Rips by Ex Hex. That is a 1 out of 10.
why is there an entire thread just because Fantano made a new video
>>66113843
wow u r fkin dense
>>66113843
from 0 or 1 to 10
if there are no albums worthy of a 1/10, whats the point of having that score? the lowest youll give, lets say 3, is effectively the same as 1 or 0/10
>>66113906
Fugazi
Unwound
Probably not much else
>>66114099
>if it's not on a label, it's a 0/10
Yikes but did you even read all of my post?
>>66114174
>>66114179
sorry boys, im tired
>>66113906
>>66114195
Slint, Husker Du, and At the Drive-in
>>66113906
>>66114195
>>66114244
But sure, contemporary Post-Hardcore is trash
>>66114179
yeh but an album/film/whatever piece of art will often be worthy of some merit, so idk how you could say it's a 1. this is why i believe ratings are flawed in general
>>66114195
>>66114244
Can someone explain to me how the Post-Hardcore label got so fucked up? Why are DGD and Fall of Troy considered Post-Hardcore when they sound nothing like these artists
>>66114222
They are getting people to pay them to make shitty music, it's situational shittyness, whether or not the fucking music quality is good it's still bad.
>>66114305
Third wave artists mixed the aggressiveness of the first wave with screamo, now it's just shit
>>66114326
>They are getting people to pay them to make shitty music
All artists do it whenever anyone buys an album you retard
>>66114451
expect the album has already been made you dumbass
>>66114305
the lowest amount of detectable merit = 1/10
>>66114319
It's an odd genre. I love Fugazi, At the Drive-In and The Nation of Ulysses as well as The Fall of Troy, Glassjaw and mewithoutYou (and also obscure British stuff like Reuben and Jetplane Landing). But then there's a lot of awful shit that barely sounds like any of those bands that are considered "post-hardcore".
>>66114505
So has most of these. They are recouping costs. The difference is fans are fronting the costs directly instead of the label.
You are not intelligent.
Also a 0/10 is not possible because 1 is the lowest score on a 10-point scale
>>66114072
sorta similar to TFOT, post-hardcore, but less proggy though
>>66114561
i see how dumb my argument was now
yeh, 1/10 is valid
it's a pathetic, comically terrible album
marcel and fantano blew it the fuck out. then we had to listen to 15 year old dance gavin dance fans go on about how "YOU GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND!" for weeks
>>66114594
>Also a 0/10 is not possible because 1 is the lowest score on a 10-point scale
It is possible. If a 10-point scale represents 100%
0/10 = 0 => 0%
1/10 = 0.1 => 10%
10/10 = 1 => 100%
How good is an album?
0% = not good at all
10% = somewhat good
>>66114780
Incorrect. That makes it an 11-point scale, doesn't it?
It's a 3 at worst, and a 5 at best
>>66114806
This has been discussed before. Scales usually include the 0 tacitly. 10-point scales do have 0.
I enjoyed this album a lot. I mean yeah, it's heavily flawed, Jon Mess's vocals and lyrics are nigh incomprehensible, and the lyrics that Tillian are given do not add up at all to how he delivers them.
That being said, I still think Tillians voice itself sound good. I think that and Matt Mingus's drumming are the main reasons I find myself coming back to it.
It's not really a good album, but somehow I still find it enjoyable.
>>66114926
>Scales usually include the 0 tacitly
Oh so as per your example, a 0/10 is best.
>>66115006
There were multiple examples with tacit zeroes and you picked the only one where that was the case.
>>66115006
No
>>66115119
Then it's incorrect. IN this type of scale, 0 is not used.
>>66115111
[citation needed]
>>66115135
0/10 does not represent 'best', represents 'worse'
0 is used in this type of scale.
>>66115238
>0 is used in this type of scale.
Incorrect, as seen in the pic here >>66114926
I rated it a 0.5 on rym desu
Hated every second of it.
>>66115273
>Incorrect, as seen in the pic here
All of those scales in that pic use 0s. You were evaluated in a 10-point scale in your school. You could still get Zero. 'One' wasn't the worst grade if you did nothing on a test, for example.
>>66115135
Fuuuuuuuck,
>click the picture.
>There are multiple scales on that picture.
>only one of them has 0 as the best score
You are actively being retarded.
>>66113182
The new Weezer album is a 1/10 in which it only has 1 good song.
>>66114169
lol this isnt even a new video
>>66113906
meaningless. liars, nomeansno, akimbo, you could call basically anything post hardcore. death grips.
>>66115436
Oh which of those talk about ranking music?
>>66115389
>All of those scales in that pic use 0s
Which one discusses ranking music, whihc is what we are talking about?
>You were evaluated in a 10-point scale in your school
A B C D F is ten points?
>>66115580
>A B C D F is ten points?
See right side of the last example of >>66114926
>>66115580
When answering the question "How good is an album?" in form of a rank
See >>66114780
>>66115654
>See right side of the last example of >>66114926
That's not a ten point scale. It's a percentage out of 100
>>66115654
>When answering the question "How good is an album?" in form of a rank
So which one in that picture? I'm not seeing it. Try again maybe?
>>66114742
is this Fantano's alter-ego?
they practically have the same vocabulary.
>>66113711
that or deathstar
>>66114954
mingus and swan are really what keep me coming back to dgd all these years
>>66114143
Rips was solid enough on the hooks and a few of the songs at the end to where it was more of a 5/10 but I get it
>>66114143
now that album was fucking trash holy shit
>>66113711
Happiness for me (I also really love IG but don't tell anyone)
>>66115760
>Try again, maybe
Ok, here you go
Let me address the numerical rating controversy.
It does make sense to have a scale that encompasses ratings that will never actually get assigned to albums. EG the absolute lowest and highest numerical values that could possibly get assigned never actually do, because they represent a platonic ideal that can never actually exist in reality.
I've noticed his ratings have been increasingly radical over the past few years.
>>66118513
For a great example of this consider Scaruffi. He would never actually assign a 10 because it would imply no other album could ever surpass it. Such a rating could become fallacious once a better album indeed is released!
its opinion so who fucking cares.
if you didn't think it deserves a 1/10 well then there's your answer.
no, it deserved a 0
>>66114926
>when people rate art with the same scale used in schools
J U S T
>>66113711
Deathstar
>>66114195
Actually, there are a lot of good post-hardcore bands, try Frodus, Bear vs Shark, Hoover, One Last Wish, The Jazz June, NoMeansNo.
>>66113906
>>66114195
>>66114244
Moss Icon m8s..
>>66113711
Downtown and Deathstar (nickname for their self-titled 2nd album, for those who don't know) are their two best.
>>66118823
I'm a big fan of DBM2, personally. Kind of surprised no one else has mentioned it.
people who say there isnt a 0/10 have never been exposed to this
>>66113906
haha your loss, bub. Post-Hardcore is solid as fuck, but of course if you listened exclusively to hot topic-core bands then you wouldn't know that
>>66119049
I love dbm2 but I love the original more honestly. The funky vibes from DBM2 are pretty nice as well
>>66119166
It's a highly acclaimed album...
what's wrong with them? i just looked up a song and they seem pretty good. not really my kind of music but I don't see what's so objectionable about them.
>>66119266
have you listened to it? mercury rev is great but this album is terrible and nobody liked it besides the critics
ive never heard this band so i youtubed it and it was probably the worst music i've ever heard in my life
>>66119301
I will never understand the problem some people have with them, they're one of my favourite bands
>>66113906
I have a feeling people who say this have never been exposed to anything past Warped Tour postcore bands
>>66119351
its a bunch of nu-males screaming and throwing hissy fits
it literally sounds like the muscial equivalent of a 4 year old girls temper tantrum
its the worst shit of all time
>>66119332
Listening now. There's no way you can, in your right mind, consider this a 0/10. Maybe you're not thrilled by it, but it's got melody, rhythm, pleasant sounds, etc. What exactly is your argument for this defining value-less music??
>>66113587
>who is will swan
>>66119376
>using the term nu-male unironically
you clearly can't critique a band like DGD properly if you're just going to dismiss them as "screaming and throwing hissy fits"
>>66119410
it completely whiffs everything it tries to send in the listener's direction. the lyrics are unbelievably cheesy and cringe, the production stops the psychedelic elements and synths from having any effect by making them really weak and poorly EQd (shows a lot in the more intense parts where a lot of instruments come together), and the songwriting is actually not completely bad (heck senses on fire is almost ok) but when something tries to build up or introduce instruments it is never seamless and there seems be meandering before it gets anywhere. I enjoy bits and pieces but getting to those bits is a complete pain.
obviously i am biased against this album because its just a really bad experience everytime i make eye contact with it, but i have tried more than a few times to enjoy this and i never ever find anything to like in it. I hate the lyrics particularly, some of them are just insulting in their stupidity.
>>66113906
it is in the modern bastardized form
80s and 90s post hardcore is fucking god tier by and large
>>66116898
Nice shop
>>66119627
A 0/10 album woudl not try. WOuld not fail at anythign becuase it would not have tried. I honestly hate how fucking dumb you are.
>>66115479
congrats on being deaf!
>>66116074
mingus and swan are the only people who stay around for DGD, literally.
