the weird frontier between pop and avantgarde
are these guys the saviors of music?
wtf is wrong with andy
and grimes
and dean and james and daniel and arca and holly and ash and huerco s and the person who keeps posting this (listed order is my ranking)
>>66104486
>no dan "the man" deacon
shame
Lopatin > Morin > Herndon = Ferraro >>> Grimes
haven't heard the rest.
>>66104486
where's escrow nignog?
>gay autechre
>female autechre
baka senpai
>grimes
>arca
>>66104776
>disliking arca
>>66104486
Grimes > all these hacks
if you actually think grimes is more talented than all these people you have no idea what you're talking about. You just say that because you wish she was beside you instead of your body pillow. Also how the fuck does arca sound like autechre, there new album sounds nothing like mutant this meme needs to die.
>>66107172
grimes is objectively better than andy
who's the guy in the center top row with the round sunglasses?
>>66107211
Huerco S.
>>66104486
why are they all wearing sunglasses?
>>66107316
only 2 of them are and 1 of them is prescription
>>66107364
>No
No
>>66104486
>mainstream pop and hip-hop
Saviors of music...
>>66107799
this op is an imposter, the Big Four are the true saviors
Blunt, huerco s, I don't know, my boo Ferraro, who, Chuck person, who, Grimes and who
Why is Arca so goddamn attractive bros?
>>66107172
>if you actually think grimes is more talented than all these people you have no idea what you're talking about.
Really? You're wrong dude. She's way more talented that you think.
>>66104486
wow, this meme thread got worse! YIKES!
>>66107206
>>66109147
I'm not saying grimes is horrible or trash she has her niche sound but can we just be fucking honest, she makes "im so quirky" pop music" it's really not boundry pushing or breaking any new ground compared to OPN, Holly Herndon, or Arca which are far more creative and original . I don't find Andy morin super creative as a musician but I do think he still is more interesting than grimes. can you seriously say that her music video for "kill v mame" isnt cheesy as fuck along with the annoying chorus with the attempt at "cute" vocals. Don't get me wrong she has some ok songs like oblivion and Outer but she isn't as amazing as this thai sticky rice board thinks she is.
>>66109581
A lot of boundary pushing music sounds like shit, see Holly Herndon as an example. Just autistic shit without any soul or emotion or a good melody.
There's some great boundary pushing music like Grimes. She makes electronic music with pop elements but influenced by industrial, dreampop, kpop, medieval, r&b, idm. Her sound is unique and there's no other artist like her.
Kill V. Maim video is cheesy but the song is a pop masterpiece. However, Grimes experimented with more styles, KVM being just one of them. Grimes is really amazing, and I'm saying that as someone who listened to a shitload of music.
>>66108222
How do you know Huerco S and not know Arca?
>>66110602
t. ricardo
>>66110602
/facepalm
>>66104486
where's gesaffelstein?
>>66110602
>Holly Herndon
>boundary pushing
lool, this is relevant:
"It’s impossible for me not to view Herndon’s music, and the strained affirmations it has received in reviews, as grossly emblematic of the Bay Area gold rush from which it derives. Like the army of smartphone app developers that comprise Herndon’s zeitgeist, this music and the concepts attributed to it boast shockingly narrow conceptions of technology and the roles it will play in our future.
"For all the “heady theoretical” ink that’s been spilled on behalf of choppy synth lines derived from voice recordings, no one’s actually going to claim that this symbolic representation of digitized subjectivity is in any way a fresh concept, right? And musically speaking, yes, the sound design is marvelous; but all that hard-won sound is marshaled toward tired, safe forms that meander comfortably within minor modes and awkwardly familiar rhythmic idioms. Herndon might make the Adornian argument that like any electronic musician, she’s deploying these forms in order to push against them, but to my ear she doesn’t so much break through the formalisms of electronica so much as clumsily yoke them to a tedious techie’s artist statement.
"I recognize that many people may enjoy the sounds of this latest album, but maybe its philosophical claims merit at least as much scrutiny as whatever Snapchat said to get valued at $15 billion…?"
>>66113391
go shitpost in ra comment section
>>66113391
will she ever recover?
who's are the two guys beside grimes, and that guy in the top middle?
>>66104486
Andy Morin >>> the rest
>>66104486
just a bunch of faggots lol
>>66113588
what have you even heard from each individual artist? go on, i'll wait.
marcel likes every artist in this picture except for grimes and holly herndon
holy fuck is he a misogynist who hates female artists /mu/??
>>66113497
>>66113543
lets hope lads
maybe lp3 will just be bangers instead of blips whose meaning must be imported from tumblr thinkpieces and pre-release interviews
>>66113558
Huerco S
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnYZymp_vVU
Ash Koosha
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1uT9huLwCQ
Andy Morin
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2yLIXf3HRk
>>66113588
This
>>66113588
>>66113737
>Andy Morin was described by some friends and colleagues as racist. His friend Stefan Burnett, the American rapper who helped him sign to Epic Records, described him as "Nazi-esque", saying: "Every once in a while there'd be something about blacks and I'd be, 'But Andy, I'm black,' and he was like 'Yes, yes, I don't mean you.' He had a definite Nordic Aryan streak, [the belief] that he was physically, spiritually and creatively superior", a view he appears to have continued to maintain throughout his years as a mushroom addict and long after his appearances on furby porn magazine covers had become a thing of the distant past. According to Burnett, Andy once attacked a mixed-race woman in a restaurant with a chicken wing, saying "I'm trying to gain". During a performance in Berlin, the audience rioted after Andy performed a version of the song "Codename Dancer" with vocals, including a verse omitted for its nationalist associations.
>>66113701
Woooooo Ash Koosha is some good stuff, thanks for sharing. Didn't know who these other dudes were either. This reminds me of Teebs a little bit, more gritty and better produced. Real nice.
>>66113847
omg, someone please save mc ride
OPN > Ferraro > Blunt > Grimes
>>66113911
Yeah, Ash Koosha's great. GUUD is an incredible album, still haven't listened to I AKA I yet.
>>66113976
This is the objective ranking.
I like how grimes posting is fading so now they have to try and include her in other memes.
>>66113737
sauce on that picture
>>66114006
Lets fucking settle this once and for all.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650687
>>66114045
i think it would be really cool if all 9 of these people got together and made a collective called The Weird Frontier. lets petition.
>>66114115
this must happen
>>66106041
>>66113995
>still haven't listened to I AKA I yet.
It's amazing
>>66114230
vulnicura pt 2 when???
>>66114115
>opn doing pitch-shifted vocals
>james ferraro shouting YAMAHA
>grimes singing
>arca dancing erotically
>dean blunt "writing" (stealing) the lyrics
>huerco s and ash koosha on the beats
>andy morin on the bass guitar
>holly herndon whispering
literally 10/10
>>66114275
probably next year
>>66104486
Grimes needs to be replaced by somebody else, probably Dan Deacon
not too familiar with Huerco S and Ash Koosha but depending on how close to being pop music they are one of them could be replaced with SOPHIE (since this is supposed to be the "weird frontier between POP and avantgarde")
>>66114527
>pc music
>avantgarde
>>66114321
>le sampling is stealing meme
this is /mu/ everyone
>>66115727
it was a joke, i love dean blunt
>>66107172
this, stale meme. plus arca is better than autechre anyway.
>>66115699
it's not too avantgarde, but it's certainly the strange frontier of pop at the very least
>>66115788
>arca is better than autechre
"no"
>>66115825
he is tho. don't get why they're so loved on this board - i tried listening to the album they released this year and i honestly thought it was a bit of a joke.
>>66113588
not yet, but he has potential.
>>66104486
What motivates you to post the same god damn thread everyday?
>>66115916
Have you listened to their other stuff?
>>66115916
go through their discography starting from their first album and including all their EPs m8, starting with their new stuff is a bad idea
>>66115916
>>66115934
this
>>66115981
but that's missing Lego Feet and a few singles
>>66116023
i left them out because they aren't really essential for a first listen of their discography
if someone likes that they'll check out their other stuff, they can probably use wikipedia
where does huerco s fit into all this? i like him but it's pretty much your regular outsider house + post-club ambient. i don't see him as very pop OR avant-garde.
>>66115934
>>66115931
yes, i've listened to a good bit of it. the old is stuff is p boring and generic imo and the new stuff is just incomprehensible noodling - parmegiani and xenakis for people not up to the task. honestly people like arca and ash koosha beat them at their own game. w/e, i just think they're worshipped cus they're part of the old guard.
>>66116093
I would say Lego Feet is still kind of essential, but I don't think I would use it as an intro or put it chronologically
>>66116112
what albums/EPs have you heard from them though?
>>66115981
>doesn't mention gescom
shame on you!
>>66114321
came a little
>>66115981
>it's just their discography in chronological order
why would you bother making this chart
>>66116245
not that guy, but I was considering making one like that with some short descriptions of them just because it would make it easy for somebody completely unfamiliar with them listen to their discography the right way
>>66115788
>arca is better than autechre
poor bait
>>66116303
now that sounds like a noble effort
>>66114321
i need this now
>>66113588
this
>>66118726
lol no
>>66118745
lol yes
>>66104486
realistically:
OPN > Holly > Grimeth > Ash > Arca > Huerco S. > Andy > Dean > James
>>66118759
Give me a reason why.
>>66118779
I'd go
OPN > Andy > James > Arca > Ash > Dean > Holly > Huerco S. > Grimes
>>66118779
more or less this
>>66118844
Mostly this, though I'd put Andy over OPN
>>66113976
OPN>>>Ferraro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All the other shits>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grimes
>>66116245
plz do
>>66113847
underrated
