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classical tred

nighty night edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhUU4leVo6k

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spoonfed me some schubergs
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>>66021965
wo? i have so much music that i havnt got onto yet, pleas dont introduc me to more. pleas
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>>66021965
You mean Schubert? I like this piece if his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuG7Y6wiPL8
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anyways, im really liking liszt gus. in the op vid, the way he uses chromaticism, like at 1:10, has this cold isolated feeling ive really longed for. Im listening to totentanz right now and he uses this thing a couple of times, but he also likes to make the piano sound heavy which is really cool.
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Where do I start with the Romantics beyond like Chopin?
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>>66022528
Try this link and listen to this album. Rubinstein is very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgw_RD_1_5I
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>>66022599
thanks man
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>>66022626
You're welcome. I hope you enjoy it.
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>>66022639
Not that guy, but would you have an recommendations on Romantic composers? The only one I've heard is Schubert, whom I adore.
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>>66022073
maybe its the recording that makes it sound heavy actually, but man that was great
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>>66022655
Alexander Scriabin - preludes
Johannes Brahms - Hungarian Dances
Henry Vieuxtemps - violin concertos
Edvard Grieg - piano concertos
Richard Strauss - Lieder
Schubert - winterreisse
Those are a few that are a few from that era that are very good.
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Where should I upload music I've bought? I got a few CDs that I want to share. I've yet to find them on torrent like rutracker. Should I upload them there?

Here's one I want to upload
https://youtu.be/gs_4UwrpSM0
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>>66022528
Mahler Symphonies, Tchaikovsky Symphonies, Wagner Preludes.
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>>66022655
>Schubert
>Romantic
ATTEMPTS
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best recording of the four seasons?
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>>66023103
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>>66023208
seconding this
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>>66023103
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>>66023016
He's early romantic.
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>>66022655
Verdi, Liszt, Bruckner, Mahler, Wagner, Brahms, Schumann, Mussorgsky.
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rip classical
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>>66025286

ded
ded
ded
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Bump
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might as well stop making threads for awhile maybe
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classical is cool kids
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>>66028629
its alright
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What do y'all think of Rihm?
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>>66029366
his quartets are badass
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>>66022937
What's your favorite mahler spymphony?
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>>66025286
Somewhat true since classical music only accounts for 2% of all music sold in the us
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>>66023208
Gay.
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>>66025286
Also symphony orchestras are dying in the US simply because there's not enough people that attend
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How do I into Liszt? Beyond the piano sonata and concertos, what are the important works
Is he just a meme piano man or a great composer?
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>>66032034
I'm wondering the same thing.

Totentanz sounded great, where should I go from there? The Divine Comedy stuff?

t. literal pleb
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don't let classical die you filthy plebs
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I cannot stop listening to this recording
does anyone know anything similar?
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>all the mu drones and indiecucks are into philososhit

now THATS a spicy meme
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>>66032034
Is it necessary to get into Liszt?
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>>66034232
oops wrong thread
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>>66034232
What's wrong with Philosophy?
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>>66034322
Got a Ph.D. in philosophy literally this month. It's shit.
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>>66034615
Great argument.
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>>66034322
>what's wrong with philosophy
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>>66034685
Go away STEMfag.
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>>66034646
Make a better one.
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thoughts on /mu/ core? do you think these are worthy to be called "classics"?
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>>66034927
You didn't make one. You just said you got a PH.D. which is already suspect, and that it's shit because you said so.
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This Beethoven 5 is extremely great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDYfjX5ZX8
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Does anyone have any recommendations for Baroque music for brass instruments? I recently found out about Cesare's Musicali Melodie and I need more glorious brass counterpoint.
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>>66022655
>Liszt
Mephisto Waltzes
Hungarian Rhapsodies
Totentanz
Dante Sonata
Etudes

>Chopin
Piano Sonata #2
Nocturnes
Etudes
Waltzes
"Heroic" Polonaise

>Alkan
Etude op. 35 #5
Etude op. 35 #7
Le Festin d'Esope
Concerto for Solo Piano

>Mussorgsky
Pictures at an Exhibition
Night on Bald Mountain

>Faure
Nocturnes
Elegie

>Stanchinsky
Nocturne
Prelude in the Lydian Mode

>Ornstein
Piano Quintet

>Hatzidakis
Ionian Suite

>Shchedrin
Piano Concerto #1

>>66032034
Liszt was one of the best composers there was. He was very inventive.

Listen to the Mephisto Waltzes (a lot of experimentation with perfect intervals), Bagatelle Sans Tonalite (the "first atonal work"), Totentanz, Dante Sonata (almost impressionistic harmony), and Nuages Gris (my professor goes crazy over this piece.)

People just know Liszt for the wrong reason (virtuosity).
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>>66021956
Anyone know some fun violin pieces
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>>66036787
>>66022655
You're missin a few of the very best of Liszt and Chopin

>Liszt
Sonata in B minor

>Chopin
Ballades (how can you even miss this when discussing Chopin?)
Preludes
Sonata No. 3
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>>66021956
That bow looks like it'd be a bitch to hold
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>>66035972
Can't say I like the electric instruments that much
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>>66036787
>Chopin
>no mention of the mazurkas
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>>66036827
Paganini's Caprices
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>>66031045
What's your exact problem with it? You need to say more than just "gaaaay."
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>>66034615
>Got a Ph.D. in Philosophy
Oh yikes, man.
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>>66034615
how does it feel to be hungry?
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>>66036827
These Westhoff sonatas are simple but effective.
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>>66032034
Late Liszt is out of another dimension - check out his Via Crucis.
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got some rough news tonight /classical/

Give me something to cry to
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>>66041678
What's the problem anon
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pewBRolWwjQ
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>>66041710
I was diagnosed with crohns today
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>>66041951
Damn man that sucks, I'm sorry to hear that.
Maybe a sad/happy Satie piece? I prefer the version with vocals desu
https://youtube.com/watch?v=twCoGHB4uPk
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>>66042057
Thank you anon that piece brings back some good memories.
This is one of my go to pieces btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfeVaK0yeM
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>>66041678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_t9d7TBjHQ
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>>66029366
good
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>>66035124
not yet
we can start calling them classics when rock music and the like has died off
but it still is very current so calling them classics now makes you look daft
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>>66036827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC2HiX2gINg&list=FLqtYzGyMPK1WHyxZZ13-RXw&index=10
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>>66035124
I don't know but we should make a /Classical/ core chart.
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>>66043609
Yes, and it should Gould's Mozart on it.
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>>66043609
To be comprehensive we'd probably need a 5000x5000 image which includes all the major works, and make one for each of the dozen or so major composers for each century.
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>>66044082
I miss Ame's chart threads.
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>>66041951
That is very sad. Here's something warm, uplifting and silly for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGtbPnsgn0
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>>66030975
5. 1, 2 and 3 are also pretty cool

>>66035124
cringeworthy millenial highschool-core

>>66041951
shit son. That can't be pleasant. best of luck to you man
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>>66022599

Does anyone else worship most of his nocturnes and some of the preludes but hate his sonatas and ballads? They're so bloated and ugly you'd think they were made by a German.
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Posting night music
https://youtu.be/7LppJ3FKDSs
https://youtu.be/3zcO4UIGhck
https://youtu.be/ZemDThbveaw
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>>66040719
Nice. Except that the original facsimile is unreadable. Westhoff wrote all three clefs together in the original mmanuscript transcribing it was a pain in the ass.
https://youtu.be/Vej5aa8PfY8
Really fun to play though.
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>>66021965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_HeH-pRfI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2fHM5vt8ZQ [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWnKMzAedK4 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UDOmUcxCk [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1tis3Auc4I [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHfVxySCTc [Embed]

Anything I'm missing?

>>66030975
Mahler's 2nd is a personal favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20lXCKsvA0 [Embed]

However I find Mahler's 5th/6th/Song of the Earth more technically impressive so give them a listen.

Last movement of Mahler's 9th is soul crushing but I find the rest of the symphony lackluster.

>>66041678
Have some uplifting sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnilUPXmipM [Embed]
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>>66038176

Why have people stopped shillling 17/4? It's uniquely spooky and one of a kind.
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>>66045708
uplifting sad is gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-xhrSPl-E

Post anti-German pieces and gloat about how good they are compared to German pieces.
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>>66045693
I've done the D minor suite as well. I would be motivated to transcribe more of the damn thing if only the last page of the facsimile isn't missing. Heaven knows where the guy who uploaded it to IMSLP got them from, and it's not in the digitised portion of SLUB.
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>>66041678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMbUwQLR20
https://youtu.be/k7hiNR4wxUs?t=587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dh43kVL1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQF490yyAY

have an awful day, nerd
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>>66045808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ36TFvNoM
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>>66045777
How about depressing sad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkWCHgOxw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nKJoZY64A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag18Np_JInY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqA3qQMKueA
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>>66045942
depressing sad is the good sad
>>66045808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBYMFpjW5Lg
written by a member of the Ligue Nationale pour la Defense de la Musique Française
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>>66045566
His sonatas are fairly short though. My least favorite Chopin is probably his Polonaises. Especially the Heroic one.

Also
>le german meme
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>>66046173

>german music
>ah bet ya'll ain't evur hurrd da saym mow-teef repeed'd hwun 'und'uhd tahms b'forr
>ay tootenklang ahr yew evun tryin' tuh jig? ah sweur it's like y'don't evuhn 'ave syph'lis!
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>>66046264
I didn't know Germans were from Texas
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>>66032034

Alright. First thing is to download that Leslie Howard complete survey of Liszt's piano music (I think it's about 99 CDs in total) which features a lot of stuff you won't hear elsewhere.

But otherwise there's a lot to get your teeth into. Most of Liszt's sacred music is stuff you'd never imagine was composed by him: very straightforward and not particularly flashy - mainly because it came from his later period when he decided he was going to be Palestrina mk II and re-invent church music.
Try the Requiem and the mass settings (S.8-11). The Hungarian Coronation Mass (S.11) is particularly fun, featuring the Rákóczi March in the Gloria. There's also the lovely account of Liszt walking by himself along a main street after it was first performed, with the crowds on either side waiting for the coronation procession to come out. They at first have no clue who this priest (since Liszt had taken the vows by this point) walking by himself was. Then news began to spread that it was Liszt the tens-of-thousands strong crowd cheered him all the way back to his apartments. Via Crucis is another fascinating piece (would advise the version for piano and choir)

His two big oratorios are great too: The Legend of St Elisabeth is a good starting point, but he really reaches a pinnacle in Christus - a three-part retelling of Christ's life, encompassing his birth, his teaching and his death. Liszt uses numerous plainchants as themes, giving the work an incredible coherency. I'm very tempted to describe each movement but that will take too long. Definitely worth the listen though.

For 'pure' orchestral works, the symphonic poems are often overlooked in modern concert repertoire. I personally enjoy 6,8,9 and 11 but I'd say all of them are worth at least one listen. Then there's the Dante symphony and Faust Symphony (which famously features the first published tone row in music).

(cont.)
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>>66046355

You've listened to the concerti, but I'd recommend relistening to the 1st, in which Liszt uses 3 (arguably 2) themes and builds an entire concerto. It's astounding stuff when you look at it in some detail. Also, if you liked Totentanz, have a listen to his unfinished De Profundis (in the Howard collection). The Wanderer-Fantasie (originally Schubert) in his various arrangements is great too.

Then some piano solo (* particular favourites):
Annees de Pelerinage
Harmonies poétiques et religieuses
Sarabande and Chaconne from Almira
Weinachtsbaum (very qt)
La Lugubre Gondola
Mephisto Waltzes
Hungarian Rhapsodies
Rhapsodie Espagnol
Grandes études de Paganini
Douze études d'exécution transcendante
Hexameron
Réminiscences de Don Juan
A la chapelle Sixtine

Songs (* particular favourites):
3 Petrarch sonnets
Comment, disaient-ils (*)
Enfant, si j'etais roi
Die drei Zigeuner
Die stille Wasserrose
Die Fischertochter
Gastibelza (*)
Die Lorelie

Organ:
Fantasy and Fugue on Ad nos ad salutarem
Prelude and Fugue on B-A-C-H
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What does /classical/ think of Rachmaninov?
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>>66046708

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RICGqS2UtmU

I this prelude.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWMMuKEL5g

Best interpretation. Prove me wrong! Pro tip: you can't!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJWqKNnA-BU&index=8&list=PLCE480D16F5DC6DD1

What does forward slash classical forward slash think of Malinowski's music?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1_Zdf2w0w&index=13&list=PLCE480D16F5DC6DD1

dude weed lmao
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>>66047023
What an incredibly lifeless and boring fugue. I could tell straight away from the subject it was going to be like that too.
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>>66046708
Bad
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>>66023103
Fabio Biondi

>>66023421
shit
>>66023626
ok
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>>66042223
Any more like this? Preferably Mendlessohn
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>>66023421
>>66023626
Fucking disgusting.
>>66048423
>Biondi
I prefer Carmignola.
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>>66035124
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>>66035124
ITAOTS, ITCOTKC, and RiL are good. Everything else is bad.
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meme
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http://slippedisc.com/2016/06/worst-ever-us-classical-sales-chart/
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>>66052259
I like this comment:

>I don’t think of myself as an “uncultured” pig and I haven’t bought a classical CD in years. Do I really need yet another recording of the Mahler First? I have three already and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra programs the darned thing three or four times a year (at least it seems like it). WFMT, still a wonderful classical radio station after all these years, is there at the flick of a switch. Its band of listeners is small but devoted (and was ever thus). Perhaps we need to stop gauging the health of classical music by counting CD sales. Classical music is not going away, ever.
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>>66052880
I don't really buy new recordings myself because a lot of modern performers just don't interest me outside of some HIPsters.

Like he says there isn't really a point once you've settled on a few recordings of a piece that you love.
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>>66046708
fluff
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b ump
uump
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>>66046355
>>66046490
thanks
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>>66046708
He's a good intro to classical music but does little past that. His piano works look fun to play though I will never be good enough.
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>>66046708
I bet Stravinsky would win in a fist fight despite Rach's great height
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>>66049283
Mendelssohn:

String quintets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4v3WPOrOts

String quartets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROITIFxi5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KVuawa1EDo

Piano Sextet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpUmOSNU9YY

Also Tchaik has some good string stuff in a similar vein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vulKECq4r60
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What are some unique takes on 12-tone?
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>>66057569
Nikos Skalkottas
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>>66046355
>>66046490
I love you anon, I've been meaning to listen to Liszt not named "Liebstraum No. 3 for quite awhile.
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Who is the Hieronymous Bosch of /classical/? I don't mean a composer who evokes the sensibility of his art work but contemporary who was equally imaginitive and pushed the aesthetic envelope in a similar manner.
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>>66058196
That anon didn't mention Liszt's Sonata in B minor or the Piano Concerti (since the requester had already listened to it), which are essential Liszt pieces.
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>>66038584
>>66040719
>>66043339
Thank you so much, I just started to play, and needed some inspiration since I suck ass right now
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>>66046708
lol at some of the other responses. Rachmaninoff is amazing.
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>>66038584
>Caprices
Not entirely sure what these are, but I know I should set them as goals and I recognize parts of this one and hell yeah it sounds fun as hell to play.
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>>66040719
>simple
That's relative since I can only play twinkle twinkle
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>>66058868
Gesualdo? Music was still pretty undeveloped in the 1400s.
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What are your guys' favorite fast recordings?
I love Harnoncourt's Mozart 40, especially the third movement.
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>>66063048
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSI8ttwYyn0
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>>66063048
>fast

Any fast recording of the Brandenburg concertos are pretty cool.
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>>66064795
Brandenburg concertos are boring as fuck. Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't
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>>66064835
https://youtu.be/ZK6-x9sdEYo?t=457
Listen to the end of the harpsichord solo
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>>66036827
Shostakovich - Trio #2 in E minor, 4th movement

>>66046708
Good composer. Complaining that late Romanticism is too dramatic is like complaining that Minimalism is too simple or Serialism is too dissonant.

It's supposed to be.

>>66057569
Ligeti - Musica Ricercata #11
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>>66063048
Gotta go fast
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>>66063048
stoki brahms 4
any coates/wagner
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>>66063048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPWLJ1vgzrU
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>>66066883
Coates has a speedy Mozart 41 as well.
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>>66067763
yeah, he did a lot of speedy stuff. really interesting conductor for sure.
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bmuump
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yo guys i decided today that brahms is pretty much the best

thoughts?
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>>66069945
Won't deny he's a contender for the best. Wrote kickass music for every genre he ever did.
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how should i learn to count triplets or quintuplets over eighth notes/sixteenth notes etc?
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>>66069945
admittedly i cant really even think of a particularly bad piece that he wrote, unlike some composers
beethoven for example
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>>66070440
I learned Fantasie Impromptu one beat at a time.
>start the beat at the same time
>end the beat at the same time
>don't think about it
>the notes in the middle will follow
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will the Sennheiser HD 600 be good for classical
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>>66070519
His piano concerti never grew on me, but thats about it
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Who else likes recordings for smaller orchestras? I personally like the shrill violins.
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>>66071780
I do.
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>>66069945
What piece were you listening to when you decided that?

>>66071314
For $300s they better be good. Using the less expensive M50xs and they work great.
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>>66069945
He is one of the best. dat Cello sonata, and dose symphonies

>>66071314
Nothing compares to being in the same acoustic space as a real orchestra. Spend the money on concerts instead, you wont regret it.
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>>66073983
The modern concert hall is like the least authentic way to experience the vast majority of classical works. It's decent for large scale symphonic works from Mahler onwards, but hardly suited for anything else. In fact its proliferation probably contributed more than anything else to the homogeneity and blandness of modern performances.
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>>66074122
You know small concert halls exist right?

Most venues have smaller areas that can be used for chamber performances. Most people who organize concerts know what they're doing. if its a chamber concert they get a chamber venue.

If you think all "modern performances" are bland and homogeneous, you really dont know what you're talking about and I'd suggest getting to more concerts.
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>>66074244
>>66074244
>Most venues have smaller areas that can be used for chamber performances.
The specifics of the concert hall is irrelevant. The modern concert is a powerful homogeniser when it comes to engaging with repertories from historically diverse cultures and ambiences, which the classical repertoire has increasingly become. Like radio, television, and the high-fidelity stereo set, it puts a frame around the musics for which it serves as a medium-a frame whose immediate effect is to enforce the identification of context as a dimension extrinsic to "the music itself". A classical string quartet, like the solo keyboard pieces of its day, were performed in a small room for a private or semi private gathering, very different from any modern performing venues. Not to mention some features of the music makes absolutely no sense if you were to remove it from the setting and try to make it work for the concert stage.

>If you think all "modern performances" are bland and homogeneous, you really dont know what you're talking about and I'd suggest getting to more concerts.
Do you honestly think the sort of style that proliferates today is even remotely comparable to what we're having fifty, sixty years ago? If you're content with the direction that modern "interpretations", which have basically become a straightforward transcription of the musical score in sound, then I have nothing else to say except may your chains set lightly upon you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyehawUON4
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>>66074456
>A classical string quartet, like the solo keyboard pieces of its day, were performed in a small room for a private or semi private gathering, very different from any modern performing venues.
unless that performing venue is a small room.

You really need to get to more concerts. The things you think are happening really aren't an issue, provided the organizers know what they're doing. There's a wide variety of different concerts out there, they aren't all "lets play classical period music on a romantic size orchestra in a massive concert hall".

Most of the orchestras I've seen whittle down their forces if they play pieces older than romantic period, and there are plenty of small, intimate venues that are perfect for chamber music.
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do you guys have a wiki where I can find some useful info? I did take a look at the mega links but I can't pick anything besides Liszt which I already heard of.

I'm only familiar with some contemporary classical, but other than that I know absolutely zero (0) .
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>>66076586
Read Rosen https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S64393648
Listen to Mozart
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What is the classical music equivalent of IUTech?
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>>66057653
what piece in specific? He's clearly composed a lot of non-12-tone stuff
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>>66076581
Not him but

>went to a few concert halls
>went there for Mozart's requiem and a few other I can't remember, I think another one is from Tchaikovsky and Dvorak.
>Listen to the music
>tempo is either always too fast or too slow for my taste for each of the music
>acoustics aren't the best as well since it seems that most people don't even care about the music.
>not loud enough as well
>overall a shit experience

Now on my Dt 880s
>listen to karajan's requiem
>everything is literally perfect
>Cry every time
>listen to Bernstein's ninth symphony
>it's beyond perfect.

I mean, I would go to a concert hall if great conductors are still alive, but they're all dead
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>>66081361

>Karajan's Requiem
>Bernstein's ninth symphony

Yikes
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>>66081421
You know what I mean. I meant, those conductor's versions of Mozart's requiem and Beethoven's ninth respectively.
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>>66081468

I know what you meant.

Yikes
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>>66081499
Why what's wrong with them?

Show me a better version, if you'd like. I'm always up for hearing better Beethoven and Mozart. I like to hear different versions of them because I never know how well someone else may do it.
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This isn't the right thread to ask, but there *isn't* a right thread to ask, so this'll have to do:

Where can I find war-like renaissance or medieval music? Not Gregorian chanting, or soft religious stuff; soldiers' songs, marching songs, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75oM6gTVRYM
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what is your guys's favorite chord? mine is minor/maj7
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>>66081592
Fricsay has the best Thoven 9.
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>>66082601
Polychords consisting of major chords a fifth apart are the way to my heart
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>>66082764
Oh hah also known as a major 9th chord I just realized.
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>>66082601
minor 9th
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>>66082031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBbqmznQFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQzlZ1dQeeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpwXnuzlvY
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Has anyone here heard about the concept of counterpoint?
I know you don't like this kind of music, but I'd like to know if someone can tell if counterpoint is used in this chip tune?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieEdKBhc2pY
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>>66083349
Thanks, anon.

Do you have any more stuff with singing in it? [spoiler]It's cool how Barbarei sounded like modern middle-eastern music.[/spoiler]
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>>66084660
Well, that confirms that.
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>>66084681
what, that spoilers dont work?
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>>66084681
That the "spoilers don't work" warning on 4chanx doesn't work.

I thought it was weird that I could spoiler on so many boards...
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>>66071314
I have them and they are great. With one huge caveat.

The thing about the 600s is that they have a very neutral response. This is great for classical as it will be as close as possible to the source as you can get for 300$, you will be able to pick out sounds that you never heard before. Unfortunately this also applies to all of the crackles and pops of old meme recordings. You hear EVERY SINGLE DEFECT and I am not saying this lightly. It really amplifies the shittiness of the already shitty sound quality.

Anyways, buy it unless you exclusively listen to old meme recordings.
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>>66082601
I wouldn't know what to call it, or if it would even be worth trying to name in the first place but the chord after 2:27 has a transcendental impact on me for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUkbjO8dkDI
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>>66084356
Well yes technically there is counterpoint but its not worth mentioning really. Counterpoint was a staple of music until we started putting everything on a loop.
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Rec me on some Stravinsky please. Already listened to his famous stuff i.e Firebird, Rite Of Spring and Trois Mouvementes.
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>>66085380
Les Noces
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>>66084773
or just learn how to edit the pops and crackles out :')
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What does /classical/ think of Charles Rosen?
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>>66086142
Pretty sexy. Would fuck while he tells me about Chopin counterpoint.
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>>66082601
Aug 9th
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>>66082601
Scriabin's mystic chord
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>>66086142
Essential reading
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>>66082601
just temperament C major
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>>66085380
Octet for Wind Instruments and Symphony of Psalms
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>>66031089

I go to a lot of concerts here in London, and it seems the venues are always sold out, or at least close to it. Is the US really suffering that much?
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>>66084356
Why are you asking about this again? Was my answer before unsatisfactory?
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>>66088887
just wanted a second opinion, pham
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>>66088782
Yes. They are very dead in the US
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>>66088902
The fact that there were only one reply to your question means that that was the consensus. Even monkeys should know this
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>>66088934

That's highly regrettable. At least it must translate into some discounted ticket prices, I guess?
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>>66088902
I mean, whether or not there is counterpoint is easily determined by listening to it.

It's Anna Magdalene Bach notebook-tier, but it's still counterpoint.
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>>66084356
Can we post pseudo-Baroque video game music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQwp7zDeLlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_e-6t34Cwc
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Hello I need music to listen while studying

Any chill albums recommended?
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>>66089363
Sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF5kr251BRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8
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>>66089325
No you can't. Can't you read where you are?
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>>66088994
No, and go learn basic economics
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>>66089363
I recommend ambient and drone. Any lengthier classical pieces when treated as background music become annoying.
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>>66089518
Thanks

>>66089712
And that's a nice recommendation, i'll try to lurk for some of those
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>>66089539
Are video game music that use orchestral forces and/or employ compositional techniques pervasive in the Western canon, i.e. counterpoint, still not considered classical music?
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>>66089735
>orchestral forces
Not a thing.
>compositional techniques
So do pop music when you count basic harmonics and counterpoint as "compositional techniques".

Fuck off.
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>>66089735
The classical period ended nearly 200 years ago m8, video games didn't fucking exist.
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>>66089778
Fair enough

>>66089840
I meant classical music with a lowercase c.
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>>66084720
If you don't have the option to put a spoiler on a picture then you can't spoiler the sentence either.
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>>66088994
It would be the opposite. They would need to sell them higher to make more of the money back.
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>>66090158

Eh. Often institutions in financial difficulty and in dire need of liquidity will reduce prices in hope that more people come -- if the seats are empty anyway, there's no reason not to sell them for cheap. National Geographic nearly went bankrupt in the 60s and sold lifetime subscriptions for a pittance, which kept them afloat.
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>>66079676
Xenakis?

>>66085380
Piano pieces for 4 hands
Piano Sonata

I would also check out Agosti's Firebird piano transcription.
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Posting underrated music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2KlYc56Ano
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>>66091823
Ulvi Cemal Erkin is a highly underrated composer.

Piano Sonata, 1st movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VZq6CTcGPQ
Piano Sonata, 3rd movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np7lFZHO6mk
Symphony #1, 1st movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awONg0ACdAY
Köçekçe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRzwc4YdWA
Piano Concerto, 1st movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSI5I2QS_DE
Symphony Concertante for Piano and Orchestra - 1st movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUN0fBmQ3tQ
Symphony Concertante for Piano and Orchestra - 3rd movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jboVHRYETc8

I just posted some movements of pieces, but I recommend listening to the whole things.
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Give me some dominating lengthy and hard music.
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>>66093393
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_clavicembalisticum
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>>66093393
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexations
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>>66093393
Alkan - Symphony for Solo Piano
Alkan - Concerto for Solo Piano
Liszt - Reminiscences de Don Juan
Rzewski - The People United Will Never Be Defeated
Hindemith - Ludus Tonalis
Vine - Piano Sonata #1
Xenakis - Mists
Xenakis - Evryali
Stravinsky - Trois Mouvements de Petrouchka
Ravel - Gaspard de la Nuit

>>66093456
I'm actually learning the intro to it.

Just the intro.
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>>66040719
whoever staggered these chords should be shot,

It makes it clearer to read on an analytical level, but it makes it impossible to properly parse each chord. Like the way that we parse a word in a sentence. It's only ever useful when the notes are a major or minor 2nd interval.
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>>66092759
erkinposter pls
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>>66094093
It's transcribed for the purpose of being played not analyzed you autist. Why don't you look at the facsimile and redo everything yourself you fuckface?
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>>66089325
What the fuck is your problem anon
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>>66089325
Only if you do it properly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKMQ3nZGVUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Mh5KQDJaY

>>66089735
Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor: Allied Assault score. Its great stuff, and recorded on a real orchestra.
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>>66094093
>it makes it impossible to properly parse each chord
Do you even play a string instrument? Just the opposite holds, and hand engravers have been doing it for years.
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>>66065009
and people say solo harpsichord is boring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yyBP3t7g90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vu5rYRKjMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYfKWyeichE

post more proof
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>>66095981
This. Posting some GOAT haprsichord works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne36-j5Invo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d07Sxg4PcN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_6FWLokI3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leiQZfuW-d8
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>>66095981
nobody says that. At least nobody who likes classical in a meaningful sense.
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>>66096640
meant to say solo harpsichord
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>tfw TSaTF will never record a collection of Johannes Martini's masses
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How do I understand messiaen?
I'm listening to his organ works and I don't really get it.
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>>66023208
This and the Max Richter recompositions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44R3uO986Cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdsVxI7yjV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZPg_ylMcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kEDNv_N_iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwz0Q8b0Fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-kN5cwyvag
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>>66099280
Nice meme
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>>66099247
listen to turangalila. Dont try to understand, just enjoy the ride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du6M96E8KyE
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How the hell is /mu/ so fast today, just an hour and we're nearly off the catalog.
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>>66082601

The tritone between C1 and the F# sharp above it.
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>>66095747
this, perfect straight lines, perfectly legible, there is never a moments waver what the chord is.
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Got these today.
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>>66102393
Nice how much?
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>>66102453
I'm from Macedonia, so approximately 10 dollars.
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Reminder that Bach is better on piano.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZS2ly5-zsQc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWYFc7PBlSI
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>>66102393
ew
non hip recordings :s
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>>66101252
that is perfectly readable, although it looks kinda weird being used to staggered chords
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>>66089734
listen to steve reich
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>>66094807
that second one is pretty good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rhhv7Er3HQ
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>>66106384
HIP is a meme
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>>66105852
Fuck off Gould
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