![Video_Game_Music_by_Z0ME[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Yn0RA0E.jpg "Video_Game_Music_by_Z0ME[1].jpg")
>he disregards video game music as if it's any different from 'regular' music
cont. from >>65948878
listening to video game music just as music is like listening to capeshit soundtracks just as musich
>>65953386
>>65953386
No fuck off, we're not continuing the thread.
>>65953386
>cont. from >>65948878 →
Go back to /v/ you fucking nerd I don't give a shit what you listen to but if its exclusively vidya music I'm going to call you out for the autist you are
please no
![1d8[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XCLP2hz.png "1d8[1].png")
>videogames
>art
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as “the greatest or most significant or most influential” rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
lmao op i bet you smoke cigarettes
>waah it's not art because I don't like it
Fucking retards
>>65953476
why do you think so?
>>65953386
Check these digits
>>65953483
okay
Autism aside:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hagVL-__c&list=RDAkU9XjatVjU&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzgI6xJEH0&index=12&list=RDAkU9XjatVjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g&list=RDAkU9XjatVjU&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkgn3QUA2w&list=RDAkU9XjatVjU&index=7
>>65953497
why are you posting a pic of your mom
>>65953491
prove that you don't lmao
![Laughing_Girls_on_internet[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/q3QeU46.jpg "Laughing_Girls_on_internet[1].jpg")
>>65953483
>videogames
>art
>>65953483
AAAAAAAAAAH!!! Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes, killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!You guys are literally, L I T E R A L L Y incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, PROBABLY TYLO BE CHILLIN, HERE'S A PIC OF HUMBLE CANNONS BY AARON ELLIS, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?" Fucking STOP IT you pathetic fucking FAGGOTS, you are such fucking cancer that I cannot even fathom how you fucking scumbags live your dumb gay lives. Don't you have a job to get to, schoolwork ?to finish or a family to attend to? Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes on the music section of a god damn anime imageboard? You fucking people make me sick???? and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses6??6??6?? you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.
>>65953483
is this art weeb
>>65953502
Nah, still autism.
>>65953517
fukken got me
xDxDxDxDxD
>music is art
>graphic design is art
>writing is art
>BUT if you put it all together and add interactivity it's NOT art!
>>65953464
>>65953525
They are whether you like it or not.
>>65953386
Report this thread, shitposting is not allowed outside of /b/.
All of you fuckers are anti-art, I am PRO-art!
>>65953525
>>65953526
>>65953530
Not an argument
Fucking retards
OP from the original thread here; why do you all still give a fuck about this discussion, I was half-baiting
>>65953410
>>65953415
>>65953427
>>65953436
>>65953459
>>65953462
>>65953464
>>65953474
>>65953476
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>>65953546
All of these posters are anti-art. If you are pro-art such as myself, pls respond.
Sorry guys, I hate to tell you but the grass is greener on the other side. You've been trapped into a consumerist addiction that's labeled as a "legitimate hobby" everyone here should have ditched videogames by the time they were 14. Don't drink the cool-aid and think sitting in front of a screen for hours twittling your thumbs is all good.
>>65953546
graphic design isn't artform, it's a craft.
writing isn't an artform, literature is.
videogames are products
>>65953563
Then why are 90% of /mu/ threads shitposting
>>65953546
>>65953556
>mad because you never outgrew children's toys, and now want them to be discussed next to art for adults.
>>65953546
Those aren't inherently art, nigger.
>>65953581
>videogames are products
So are movies, books and albums.
>>65953576
How fucking dare you label me? You don't even know me. You probably didn't even read my post.
Never reply to me or my posts ever again.
>>65953571
OP from this thread here, I'm 3/4 baiting
but really I want the weeb from last thread to come back, he was entertaining as fuck
>>65953534
Shhh. Just, ssshhhhh.
We all know Trouser Snake, or Big Balls, AKA The Man Who Fucked the World, shows signs of autism.
>>65953546
this tbqh famalamo
>>65953563
This isn't shitposting were discussing our favorite video game soundtracks.
To be honest I don't like the excessive motions of Donna Burke in the singing of the MGSV:TPP soundtracks (literal physical motions) and I don't think they should have casted her again, Sins of the Father dissapointed me.
>>65953546
>anime picture
You just won a one way ticket to ignoreville
>>65953601
(you)
>>65953483
Haha, wow! /V/iral Diseasers have actually, with absolute fucking sincerity, gone too far! Wow! And y'know, I wouldn't mind you people if you simply stuck to "discussing" such vapid, music on appropriately mainstream websites, but you don't! You come here, HERE, to 4chan to vicariously satisfy you ill-conceived desire to be counter-culture! You come here so you can feel as though you're on the "bleeding, cutting edge" of culture and society, all while doing appreciating nothing, doing nothing, and holistically resembling nothing novel and removed from mainstream culture! In every aspect of your existence, you epitomize cultural, societal normalcy, yet you come here, force your bullshit, vapid and media social media and meme driven tastes until everyone with the faintest sense of novelty or taste has no choice but to leave!
Haha! You people have absolutely, actively DESTROYED what made 4chan 4chan, yet to vicariously satisfy your BULLSHIT, ILL-CONCEIVED desire to be counter-culture cling to this idea that this place is "cutting edge," and "counter-culture," despite the fact that it's you normal, vapid and posturing CUNTS that have absolutely RUINED that aspect of this cite.
We are NOT counter-culture anymore, BECAUSE OF YOU.
We are NOT cutting edge anymore, BECAUSE OF YOU.
We are NOT contrary, obscure and noninclusive anymore, BECAUSE OF YOU.
NOW, we sit comfortably and safely on the periphery of faux obscurity, adequately complimented by the likes of Pitchfork, Anthony Fucking Fantano, and Noisey in every aspect and judgement.
You people, you NORMIES, have actively RUINED WHAT GREATNESS THIS PLACE ONCE WIELDED.
WELL DONE
WELL DONE
NO SERIOUSLY WELLFUCKING DNE ARE YOU HAPPY? ARE YOU? WHAT IS FUFUCKING WRONG WITH YOU PIECES OF SHIT? WHY DO YOU NEED TO BE INCLUDED INTO EVERYTHINT? DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT WE'RE HERE BECAUSE YOU REJECTED US FIRST AND FOREMOST? FUCK
>>65953581
>>65953592
I have barely played andy games in the last 2 games you dumb nigger, but if you deny you arre art you are fucking retarded
>>65953592
Video games aren't children's toys.
>>65953615
>>>/Reddit/
>>65953618
>>65953459
vidya music is bigger than movie soundtracks atm you old fart
>>65953436
>video game music doesn't use music theory
Is this nigga serious?
>>65953581
Wow, you just went full retard
What's the musical equivalent of Touhou? It must be something more significant than the last century of modern art.
>>65953600
not all movies or books are trying to be artistic
videogames can't be artistic, it's different
this is a great thread.....no,
an AMAZING thread
>>65953644
Touhou soundtracks
>>65953645
>videogames can't be artistic
Jesus you are fucking stupid
>>65953645
Movies and books can't be artistic, it's different.
>>65953622
>Video games aren't children's toys.
w/e you say
>>65953640
try to counter-argue, /v/ermin
even better, come up with a cogent, consistent argument for why le vidya should be considered art
lol look at her
>>65953645
shut the fuck up when you dont know what you are talking about thank you
>2011+5
>Not comparing World of Warcraft to Mona Lisa
>>65953618
I haven't seen this pasta before guess I need to cross board shitpost harder.
>>65953645
>can't be artistic
And so it is that Ash seeketh Embers.
>>65953671
try to counter-argue, hipster
even better, come up with a cogent, consistent argument for why video games shouldn't be considered art
Or just kill yourself grandpa
>>65953592
It's funny you say that because toymaking is a graphic art
>>65953665
I'm simply stating a fact.
>>65953702
i'm good, i don't listen to vaporwave
![garlin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kVHdwVJ.jpg "garlin[1].jpg")
>videogames
>art
i'm good, i don't listen to vaporwave
>this is considered art but games are not
>>65953708
not really, considering video games are made for children
>>65953719
Yes.
>>65953525
>>65953719
>le maymay arrow and hilarious reaction image post
Good job proving you have no argument, fucking idiot
>>65953699
>hey anon, i just found out people are actually balloons
>prove it
>prove they aren't #REKT #IFailedLogic101 #antiartcrew
>>65953692
What's the artistic merit of this 3D render of a kneeling knight?
>>65953726
You know that's worth one million dollars, right?
>>65953684
lmao!
>>65953665
>>65953734
lmao stop acting so insecure you idiot
>>65953734
They aren't. Some of them are. But then again some movies and books are made for children too.
>>65953751
lmao
>>65953597
>inherently art
>inherently
stop using words you don't know about
>>65953769
>>65953764
>>65953700
is a tickle me elmo doll art too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA8SI_KvqI
>>65953824
>le epic alt-right roast like subscribe and share fellow /pol/sters!!!
>>65953793
It has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
>>65953793
Yes, so are all of Jim's Henson's puppets.
>>65953824
is that youtube video art?
>>65953837
is a wicker chair stocked three aisles over from the tickle me elmo doll art?
>>65953726
extended /mu/ peasant casual pleb spoonfeed edition :^)
>>65953824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9iJCZ5Il8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tMtV5p0s4E
The thing with games is that people look for their artistic value in all the wrong places. Games are not music, they are not movies, and they aren't literature either. I'd like to compare a good game to a good painting or photograph. In a good photo the viewer's eye is led by the photographer through the composition of the painting. In a similar way, a game is a communication process between developer and player. I'm not talking about cutscenes here and also not about in game text. I'm talking about level design, the establishment of the rules of the game, difficulty curve, graphics and sound (in the way what they communicate to the player and how clear / unclear they are). Things that are exclusive to the context of a game. This is where artistic value can be created, not by "being like a movie" or "having a great soundtrack". In other words fuck heavy rain, all hail TETRIS.
>>65953692
It was from when that Ariana Grande LP came out. Some dude made that text.
>>65953853
A tickle me emo combines both sound and visual art.
Before each toy is made, a draft is drawn out detailing the concept
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5KRawOXy4U
How "bad" and "good" it is depends on perspective, which is definitely objective by the way, quality depends on the artists and the toy companies.
>>65953702
>i'm good, i don't listen to vaporwave
>>65953912
doom is the definitive game, though
>>65953633
I don't give a fuck
I like videogame music on occasion but if you exclusively listen to it and consider yourself a music fan you are literally autistic.
>>65953644
A friend of mine has over a TB of touhou/touhou inspired music
It frightens me
>>65953702
I see the anti Ferraro squad has arrived :^)
>>65953824
>cherrypicking
>thinks art should just be complexity
>doesn't understand concept
>promotes pleasing visuals and aesthetics as long as he likes the work, everything else is just about being deep
>thinks beauty can not emerge from randomness despite nature doing it all the time
This guy is a complete wanker and anyone who agrees with him is fucking dumb.
ITT: old angry fucks that need to get with the times
>>65953955
i dont give a fuck either
if a baby says stop liking what i dont like online i tell him to kill himself. switch your diaper to a pair of balls and try replying again shitster faggot :^)
>>65953925
>didn't answer my question
so a wicker chair is art?
>>65953955
>A friend of mine has over a TB of touhou/touhou inspired music
My music folder isn't even that big, I've got a few hundred albums in here at the least.
>>65953824
You do realize that music in the East is just as, if not more fucking degenerate than the West right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXZ21s71kDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcqFMuxHeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvD3CHA48pA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKuZzR2FknI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjmNl_4q34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvCLhq8okxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNjEwCesULo
Don't fucking act like the East is some heavenly bastion for artistic work. It's a fucking horrible place for art.
>>65953982
m8, I'm all for the possibility of art games, but it's not fucking action titles with semi-intellectual plots and nice graphical style.
>>65953958
He was absolutely right about everything he said.
>>65954012
Where did that video say anything about the East?
>>65953832
>>65953958
t. triggered libtards
>>65954063
t. stupid idiot
>>65953931
Yeah Doom is good. Very clear design, forward thinking controls, excellent storytelling. When I'm talking about storytelling, I mean the stuff that arises out of dynamic situations, like "oh man I survived that final level yesterday with 1 health". Of course this is a fucking stupid story. But you can see how no other medium could tell that story in the way a game does. I think this is what video games should focus on if they want to be respected as art : the stuff that's exclusive to them.
Look at the many fantastic stories that day z has already brought forth and you can see the potential of the medium.
>>65954012
>using flood as an example of degeneracy
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>65953702
i'm good, i don't listen to vaporwave
>>65953958
>thinks art should just be complexity
>>doesn't understand concept
>>promotes pleasing visuals and aesthetics
Yes, this is what goes into an art piece, it looked like he understood concept.
What is your idea of "concept"?
>beauty can not emerge from randomness
When you listen to music do you listen to white noise and random rhythms all the time? Even Jazz music is composed.
>>65953999
A wicker chair can be an art piece. Furniture making is a visual art.
>>65954083
face it m8, flood is nothing but a soft rock dronefest with psychedlic elements. Easily one of the most boring albums made.
>>65954112
>A wicker chair can be an art piece. Furniture making is a visual art.
i'm talking about specifically that one chair in the store. put there specifically to be bought.
>>65954058
>He was absolutely right about everything he said.
He really isn't, he even claims that there is good modern art out there but goes on to just show the most 3deep5u shit out there, his examples of good modern art are all super popular mainstream artists, so the whole argument falls flat on its face.
>>65954132
Yes, that wicker chair is art.
>>65954134
Modern art is inherently garbo. He must have been really generous to say there is any good modern art.
>>65954212
>Modern art is inherently garbo.
Stop posting, you have literally no clue what you're talking about.
Modern art is the abolishment of trends and freedom for people to make any fucking art they want, so if you're in for classical baroque paintings, go right ahead.
>>65954191
so if a mass produced piece of furniture is art, is there anything that anyone creates that isn't art?
What's the point of the term if it can be used to describe everything from billy bob's great big shit to the packaging for a jar of mayonnaise?
>>65954254
Welcome to the 60s
>>65954252
Ok then show me some good modern art then.
![255C-C_~_(K1236)_K123615_FZ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tWG0TKk.jpg "255C-C_~_(K1236)_K123615_FZ[1].jpg")
>>65954254
if art is anything made by humans for the purpose of aesthetic appreciation then people can fuck off with the arguments about what is art
>>65954311
not that guy, but i can already guess how this will go down.
he'll post something, you'll either say "lol it's shit" or "lol not modern art" and so continues the ride, for the ride never ends.
>>65954311
Paintings by dali
Photography by henri Cartier bresson
Paintings by Gottfried helnwein
>>65954333
well, video games are made for the purpose of making money, so by your own definition not art.
This is the only worthwhile video game soundtrack
>>65954311
Touhou
>>65953581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_XbHFs_w0
>Its an insecure /v/irgin wanders into /mu/ and tries to justify his shit taste thread
oh bother
>>65954345
Dali's paintings are weird but they're also skillfully made, aesthetically appealing and interesting. So I fail to see what they have to do with modern art.
>>65954363
Touhou is even less related to modern art.
![jeff-koons-sculpture-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jBdUj60.jpg "jeff-koons-sculpture-1[1].jpg")
reminder that postmodern art is the real GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg_F-pvGB6w
>>65954363
LOl NOT MODERN ART LITERALLY KYS ANTI-ART FAGGOT L M A O LITERALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ART MADE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND ON PAR WITH ANY WORK IN THE WESTERN ART CANON LOLOLOLO
>>65954380
>Touhou is even less related to modern art.
>he didn't read the last thread
Fucking newfags.
>>65954380
>So I fail to see what they have to do with modern art.
>lol not modern art
called it
your response will prolly have no more substance than "it's not tho xDxD"
>>65954390
When it comes to Zelda, I like the fairy music (although IIRC it was originally used for something else).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAXV-DOkILI
>>65954370
Judging by this thread it seems more like /mu/-males are the insecure ones tbqh
>>65954254
>billy bob's great big shit to the packaging for a jar of mayonnaise?
Packaging design is also art
>>65954426
judging by this post, it seems like you're retarded :DDDDDDDDDDD
>>65954419
Well like I said, modern art is inherently garbo. If you make something that isn't garbo then it's no longer modern art, it's just plain old art.
>>65953497
Why are you posting a picture of my mom?
>>65954380
>it's good so it can't be modern art
Abandon thread.
>>65954380
If you define modern art as "not aesthetically pleasing" and everything that is aesthetically pleasing as "not modern art" then there is no hope in this conversation.
>>65954429
does this deserve to be discussed in an art conversation?
>>65954456
There's no hope in modern art either.
>>65954390
I accidentally clicked on the link twice, 2 seconds in between and it sounds euphoric
>>65954474
Just as much as Campbell soup cans.
lmao /mu/ is too easy to troll
>>65954490
Dunno bout that though
I hate all of you
>>65954506
well, i guess when your definition of art includes "literally everything" you can call video games art :^)
>>65954518
You just don't understand post irony
Lurk for 2 centuries before posting, /v/irgin.
>>65954474
Yes and it is.
Packaging design is a factor in how your products will be marketed. It has to be creative and innovative.
>>65954423
I really like all the temple music, they're ambient masterpieces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322V5rD6ko4
what is art? what is good art? *is* there good art?
these are some big questions humanity has yet to answer and the bright young minds on /mu/ are ready to tackle it itt
>>65954526
Not everything is art per say. Like the motherboards in your computers for example, that's electronics and physics. But the case holding the motherboard is.
![1462513294611[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fqGu6Zp.jpg "1462513294611[1].jpg")
Mama Mia! Videogame soundtracks sure are shitty
>>65954545
>Pretending to be retarded
kys
Also I'm quite sure 2hu poster is legitimately retarded
>>65954756
a lot of what you've said can easily be applied to motherboards.
so, as i said, when you use art to describe pretty much anything that a human being has designed, it renders the term useless.
>>65954630
I have the answer to these questions right here.
>>65953386
People seriously do that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9DJRhRuG3o&list=PL50AAD8692FEB1043&index=39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be-AZvSOhP4&index=45&list=PL50AAD8692FEB1043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZarvXCld42w&index=86&list=PL50AAD8692FEB1043
>>65954850
>a lot of what you've said can easily be applied to motherboards.
How?
>you use art to describe pretty much anything that a human being has designed, it renders the term useless.
No it does not. Even cave paintings and weapon making are art forms.
Why are people engaging the ingnorant /v/ermin? Just ignore them and they will go away
>>65953702
I'm good, I don't listen to vaporwave
