Can somebody explain to me how people dislike swans because of an rape accusation
but proceed to still support hip hop which is an whole genre based on rapping about stuff they never did.
what did he mean by this?
because hes white
>>65839215
It's just memes, nobody on here cares
When Gira is accused of having raped someone a while ago, that makes his work worthless because he is an evil white abusive man profiting of his domination over women.
When Freddie Gibbs is accused of rape, he has done nothing wrong at all and it's the corrupt yuropean justice trying to silence him because reasons
>t. p4k logic
>>65839251
keep telling yourself this
>>65839215
That's the great Feminazi mystery. I guess it goes against their dogma to call minorities out on their bullshit. Also you have to factor in pic related
>>65839251
/thread
>>65839322
ya its not his unbearable whiteness but because a crazy sjw made it up for attention
he's a scumbag
evil man
rape is NEVER OK
>>65839343
It's all about culture. The culture of the minorities have to be accepted for the sake of diversity while the culture of the majority (and thus the oppressive culture, because marxism) has to be attacked.
>>65839367
>>65839215
>raping someone irl
>rapping about a rape
>ethically equivalent
>a thread on /mu/
>>65839408
>because marxism
AHAHAHAHA wow
>>65839467
>implying gira raped anybody
>>65839516
>entire argumentation is based on genders or races being oppressed by another that is established at a "superior" place
>not marxist paradigm except trading social classes with identity politics
>>65839251
The funny thing about people who insist you can't be racist against white people is that their insistence is helping to make racism against white people a very real thing.
its mostly sjw's that are trying to ruin his reputation no one else cares that much
>>65839630
When whites stop being the majority in the US and no hispanic '''''''''''whites'''''''' aren't the same, can we finally acknowledge racism against whites as a legitimate thing?
>>65839666
No, because whites will still have to repent for their past sins like slavery, invading the entire world, slavery, the appartheid and slavery too.
never listened to swans but i remember the threads about the accusation when it came out
did anything happen with it?
>>65839753
He paid some people off to make it/her go away
>>65839753
a bunch of people came out stating that larkin grimm is a deeply troubled and imbalanced person with a history of lying about this sort of shit
larkin grimm deleted every post she ever made about the subject and now seems to pretend that nothing ever happened
none of this matters to the people who jumped on and immediately attacked gira of course, as far as they're concerned he's a rapist and that's the end of it
>>65839272
>that makes his work worthless because he is an evil white abusive man profiting of his domination over women.
No, of course not.
But we must remember that it's rape music and just it for what it is.
>>65839843
>as far as they're concerned he's a rapist and that's the end of it
It's not the end of it. I hope he gets some help for his problems.
>>65839753
The Wire wrote a review of the allegation and mistakenly published it as a revie of the new album.
I haven't kept up with anything. I know Larkin stopped saying shit because everybody called her out but did the album get panned because of this shit?
>>65839896
No just oversensitive Culture Warriors who for some reason adore Swans felt their their /pol/-esque ideologies were threatened when an empowered woman tried to do what's right.
>>65840234
I'm black and was raised by a single mother.
>>65840281
Prove it.
>>65839630
what they generally mean is that racism is institutionalized and thus only the white american "institution" can be racist but this is just diluting the word racist and deferring it to a different thing, when hating a race is still bigotry.
just my two cents on why it's silly to say only white people can be racist.
>>65840356
>no timestamp
>>65840395
you know it's me :)
anyway I'm sure you're the same guy baiting in every swans thread
>>65840424
What do you mean baiting?
>>65840424
get out while you still can, they'll try to make you white and bait you to death
>>65839753
>>65839215
1) It potentially didn't happen
2) they don't give a shit
>>65840525
This is what white privilege can buy you
>>65839215
>stuff they never did.
>>65840458
>>65840458
Probably that you just called her an empowered woman who did what was right when you have no better idea what the truth is than anyone else.
>>65840542
White privilege can buy you trustworthy, lifelong friends and relationships with your exes strong enough that they'd vigorously defend you from rape accusations?
>>65840577
>exes strong enough that they'd vigorously defend you from rape accusations?
Well they need the alimony coming don't they?
>>65839215
3) It seems to be they way it goes "you bastard" " I never did" forever till you die and a bit longer if you were quite good
>>65840569
Yet everyone presumes Gira is innocent. Why are you singling me out? Isn't everyone else b8ing as well?
>>65840678
Innocent until proven guilty, just like the courts see it.
>>65840525
Well shit.
Honestly I've seen Swans live and have met Michael Gira. He was very nice to me even though he had just played a 3 hour set that looked physically painful at times. I feel like if even his ex wife is supporting him then there's more to the story.
>>65840715
Do you think Michael jackson was a pedo?
>>65840782
I've met him too. He was kind of a dick and a bit scary. I could see him intimidating his ex wife into backing him up if it helps pay the bills
>>65839467
>using tripcodes
Kill yourself.
>>65840889
Tony Visconti pls go and take your limp handshake with you
>>65840889
When I met him he squeezed my hand until I begged him to stop and then he called me a white faggot and laughed at me while high-fiving an onlooking black man.
>>65840815
I think he was definitely a pedo but I don't think he ever criminally acted on his urges. As far as I'm concerned he never raped a kid. If you really wanted to bait me into an inconsistency you'd ask me about OJ, but he's in prison for a different violent crime for a long time, so fuck him.
>>65841025
>I think he was definitely a pedo
Nice double standard
>>65841040
Being a pedo is not a crime. Raping a kid is a crime.
>>65840889
I asked him what "space cunt" meant. With a sly grin, he told me it referred to the giant hole in the sky. I wonder if he would have provided a different response if I were a woman.
>>65841072
I asked him what a "Fallopian friend" was and he poked my lower abdomen with his erect cock and asked me if I wanted to find out.
>>65840978
kek
>>65841049
Same thing.
Semantics won't change the fact of your bias towards white men
>>65841072
>>65841094
>>65840978
These are the type of people who listen to Swans?
>>65840889
I doubt he's so scary and dangerous that he can intimidate people the way you describe. I remember a story about how he was acting like a dickhead to this guy in the music scene or some shit (this was a video on YouTube told by the guy in question) and Gira put his tongue into the guy's mouth and then the guy just bit down on his tongue as hard as he could and he basically just started complaining about it, then apologized later. He's not a fucking gangster lol.
>>65841325
Here's the video actually, start at 13:20 and he tells the story about Gira.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqfvBXc12bY
>>65841272
What are we supposed to do? Get outraged over another thread full of bullshit bait?
I'd rather turn the whole thing into a ridiculous spectacle instead.
>>65841259
Not him but you can't be serious. Are you seriously saying that thinking about thing = doing thing?
>>65841325
>>65841403
Fuck forgot the important bit, watch the first few minutes of this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpn3OyHBigg
>>65839666
satanic trips confirm
>>65841405
Words lead to actions
>>65841404
>If I don't agree with it, it's b8
Ugh
>>65841672
Okay. You keep retreading this same tired ass he said/she said argument all you want. I'm not taking this shit seriously anymore.
>>65841881
>You keep retreading this same tired ass he said/she said argument all you want.
>but for sure he is innocent
Sure buddy
Is it possible The Glowing Man has hypnotic subliminal messages programming fans to think Gira didn't touch her?
>>65841918
Is it possible that there's no evidence either way and people just tend to want to come to a consensus based on the words of everybody involved because there's nothing else to go off of? I can't really say I have an opinion on the whole story, but it's easy enougn to see why people would give Gira the benefit of the doubt.
Does anyone know what Gira's favorite alcoholic beverages are/were?
I find myself interested in his drinking habits.
>>65839215
Some of us on here think Michael Gira is a scumbag AND think most hip hop artists are as well
>>65841971
>but it's easy enougn to see why people would give Gira the benefit of the doubt.
White privilege and misogyny .
