IT'S HAPPENING. IT'S OVER. JAMES' CAREER IS FINISHED.
how ironic would that be
haha selling fake tapes, that's genius, no one will ever find out!
idk why these tape dudes have to be so scummy and scam people
dance labels putting out low press vinyl are always legit
Did anyone here who ordered a HS3 tape receive theirs yet? This could help further this evidence.
is it possible to have herpes on your hand?
"he headlined a show at the smell that had like, a fucking incredible long, comtemplative mark mcguire set, a totally cool spencer clarke set, a whole bunch of shit, like people going out and doing their things that were all really popping off at the time, i remember this was riiight around when this mk of the board first launced so whatever year that was, Not Not Fun was just getting big, pocahaunted were one of the other big names playing and they were just playing this horrible like, pinecone tampon womens studies dreadlocked take on the doors, but they seemed sincere enough, not important, anyway
ferraro comes out, plays one (really cool classically ferraro-y) loop, goes "YA-MA-HA" into a little casio mic and loops that for a couple minutes, is offstage after roughly 9 minutes, smirking his ass off and looking for the afterparty"
holy fucking shit
>James Ferraro could easily refute these claims by taking a picture of his tape inventory... too bad those 200 tapes are fake
[citation needed]
Looks like someone just doesn't like James Ferraro and is making up a story and then claiming "any proof he gives is just fake XD!"
what if he stole the money ironically?
>>65813605
nah, this seems legit because Olde English Spelling Bee (Ferraro's old record label) is following this Vaporwave Funds ltd account on twitter. so maybe he's got something to do with this?
also the @kris_tba guy they retweeted is from DFA Records
Doesn't Ferraro have a history of doing this kind of shit?
>>65813749
Yeah he had an old blogspot record label and had a ton of fake releases on their. People pod for them. They didn't even exist
>>65813749
He does. Pretty infamous for it actually.
>>65813749
Yep.
>>65813423
this dudes twitter account looks like satire holy fuck
i aint believing this until there's solid proof
>>65813749
If you're talking about Skaters and early Ferraro tapes, that was Spencer. He handled distro, and it likely wasn't even intentional scamming. He was so nodded out he'd forget to ship, and would answer people asking about them with conspiracies about UFOs and Atlantis
>>65813801
not proof
Does this mean Human Story 3 isn't actually a Ferraro album?
>>65813813
I mean...it's still pretty sus
>>65813821
if it was fake and the dude was telling a lie why would a label of Ferraro's be fucking following the thing on twitter?
>>65813828
see:
>>65813821
>>65813828
wtf of course it is
hopefully ferraro finally realizes that his music isn't art nor is it good so he's going to play the "lol im a satirist troll" card to save his face
>>65813848
Nah, it is. It just doesn't mean he actually pressed any tapes and he scammed people out of their money.
i'd wish i could just live a drug-fueled existence in a big city like james and do coke and be superficial but in an artsy way... now i'm just a wreckage at 21, suffering from anxiety and just wanting
>>65813857
>if it was fake and the dude was telling a lie why would a label of Ferraro's be fucking following the thing on twitter?
>>65813423
Not that surprising looking at that godawful tape mockup.
>>65813849
Yeah I still wouldn't trust sending either of them my money directly. But its fair to say, at least in the past, he wasn't purposefully trying to scam people on tapes. Can't imagine why he'd need to now though, I'm sure there's hundreds of distros that would put them out with a high cut
>>65813897
this
it looks photoshopped as hell
>>65813868
>music isn't art
>I don't like it, so it doesn't count as art!!!1
>I'm a massive faggot XD
>>65813902
this
as far as the artist we're talking about, i see this as somewhat excusable. to pay for money that exercises the potentials of commodity & in itself comments on commodities, isn't people buying that & expecting something kind of completing the process?
or i could just be on the same shit ferraro is
Damn I thought I came up with the idea of making a shitty ironic music career just to rip off stupid trust fund hipsters
>>65813423
hahaha I TOLD YOU POSEURS IT WAS A SHIT JOKE
I WAS RIGHT
>>65813997
what if people purchased a product (in this case a cassette) and the fact that they didn't end up getting that product is super disappointing to them?
if they wanted to support the artist by way of what you're saying, they could have just bought it digitally via bandcamp.
>>65813813
I emailed back and forth with spencer for a time, he said something about aliens controlling humans through their impulses. I think he did way too much acid.
>>65813856
OESB follows a lot of guys on Twitter. Doesn't mean shit.
>>65814030
i had a point to make but either way you sound like a nerd
>>65814059
This Vaporwave Funds ltd thing is based in New York as well and their profile pic was designed by HKE (who's also on OESB). Maybe OESB is behind this Vaporwave Funds account?
Maybe his so-called "inside sources" are himself since he's worked with Ferraro before.
>>65814083
I know, and I respect what you were saying and it makes sense, but I was just trying to give you a different perspective.
>>65813997
no, this is in no way excusable if true, jesus christ.
>>65813423
tapes are supposed to ship either today or in the near future. Can't say yet. If it's fake, Ima be mad as fuck.
There's gotta be some sort of consumer protection bureau or something.
noted alcoholic and coke addict james ferraro proves how untrustworthy he is again
>>65814194
It probably will be fake and it will ruin his career but people will still latch onto the fucking album like its a great thing.
Fuck HS3
Fuck it
Huh?
>>65814042
He mention anything about Charles Berlitz? I'm pretty sure he got all of his conspiracy theories from his paranormal books. I also remember him saying something about huffing paint thinner in order to psychically contact aliens
>buying cassette tapes
>listening to vaporwave
>>65814287
>vaporwave
you baited me!
>>65814287
you're a fucking idiot bitchboy.
>>65814287
>implying ferraro makes vaporwave
>>65813423
>I paid $500 for a remix and he blocked my number
What a loser
>>65814018
Montie was actually right for once lmfao.
the album is shit anyways and has horrid cover art so you're an absolute fucking idiot if you bought a copy anyways
why did no one talk about when sophie did the same shit, except it extended beyond physical releases to merch as well?
I mean, why treat your fucking fans this way. I am not even mad about the music anymore. Why, why, why treat your fans like literal POS and scam them out of their money. Death Grips did it but it was different and they never did it with an album release. James is a fucking scumbag and his music is simply overrated. Screw this, screw him, and screw his shitty vaporwave/modern classical crossover trash experiment that poseurs and retards consider deep and intellectual. It is literally just edited internet meme music for 4chan users like us who go apeshit over this shitty music.
>>65814318
This
That stock image shit is so played out. Same with tapes and Ferraro
>>65814266
he mentioned some metaphysical book about dreams by a Charles Beatty if I remember correctly. hahah the dude is a little crazy in the coconut, its also kind of concerning. I hope he doesn't go too far off the deep end. I guess that explains why his music is so fucking bizarre.
>>65814367
Because nobody actually cares about that meme
>>65814368
Why don't you wait until it's confirmed before you throw a hissyfit?
>>65814367
Sophie is also pure and unadulterated shit. All these fucking internet "Star" musicians are in it only for themselves and not for anyone else. Its shitty and it needs to be clamped down on and stopped. Fuck all of them.
It's just some twitter vaporcuck. How is this proof at all?
no one on /mu/ even talked about ferraro until just now, so it's pretty surreal to see so many mentions of "yeah he was always shit"
this is milo all over again
>>65814403
havin' a bad day, bud?
>>65814287
>dude irony lmao
>dude capitalism lmao
>dude a e s t h e t i c lmao
>>65814317
A broken retarded clock with really bad taste in music and a pathetic need for attention from internet strangers is right twice a day
>>65814429
Nah, but Ferraro's old label is following this account and so is tha DFA Records guy they RT'd, so it isn't just some rando.
>>65814452
nah, there have been james ferraro generals on and off over the past few years. I remember threads focused on his earlier hypnagogic stuff.
>>65814390
They all seem like they've been off the deep end for years. I know Lieven Martins believes dolphins are hyperintelligent psychics that can telepathically send love to people, and that there's ghosts inhabiting tropical islands. Its actually really interesting how far the new age conspiracy rabbit hole can go
>>65814499
oh shit !
and that is proof how?
>hehe guy it was just an art piece, don't get so mad
>NO REFUNDS
>>65814536
how is it fucking not? go on, i'm waiting for your reply.
>>65813592
holy fucking lmao, love the dude
>>65814535
yeah, but you can't prove dolphins DONT have that ability
>>65814550
kek
>>65814556
you have the burden of proof. So he has a few enemies in the industry. This could just be a smear piece. In no way does a twitter account with two(2) relevent followers imply truth.
>>65813592
FUCKING BASED
>>65813592
can "YA-MA-HA" become the new meme pls?
>>65814509
i remember posting about him back in the day, but threads about hypnagogic stuff never seemed to really catch any wind
either way
>board mostly consisting of users getting something they didn't pay for
>mad that people paid for something they didn't get
it's pretty funny
>>65814565
>>65814624
why is this story worth all the hyperbole. i don't get it.
Fucking wow lol this thread makes me glad that a. I don't listen to shit music and b. I pirate music.
>>65814568
True. I choose to believe my life is telepathically predetermined by enlightened alien dolphins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_NSxI0Kw8
>>65814658
I also love the fact that last night there was an EXPLOSION of Ferraro threads and discussions everywhere and literally the day after this news comes out that could potentially ruin his career. What a fucking overnight downfall. It was good while it lasted.
RIP James
it was a hell of a ride
>>65814663
fuck off
LMAO
I KNEW FERARRO WAS TROLLING ALL YOU PRETENTIOUS FAGGOTS
>>65814720
you seem bright
>>65814684
he better watch out for the dolphin rape caves.
>>65814734
THIS
>>65814734
Whatever, I still got digital dl and I've pirated the rest of his stuff and he's one of my favs, so even if twitterfag was telling the truth, I dont really mind.
>>65813764
kek that's actually pretty funny
>>65813423
Can someone explain what this is all about?
>>65814367
Wait did Sophie not deliver those sex toy things?
>>65814883
James Ferraro released a new album called Human Story 3, set up a pre-order for cassette copies of the album on bandcamp, and now it's being revealed that the tapes are most likely fake since they aren't get sent out, the preview photo looks totally photoshopped, and that James has a history of doing this type of shit before.
>>65814797
You wouldn't mind that your fav is a thief and has no sense of integrity? You wouldn't mind that he takes advantage of his fans?
>>65814929
It's not that uncommon to use mockups of tape/cd/vinyl/book/whatever packaging, especially with preorders, maybe he just forgot to have the tapes made in time or something
>>65814963
>James has a history of doing this type of shit before
he's a known scammer. charging people for releases that didn't exist, etc.
>>65813423
any, Pro-Refugees mixtape lately?
heres one (mine tho)
http://www.datpiff.com/Lil-Aladdin-The-Allahu-Akbar-Freestyle-mixtape.775841.html
just ask them
https://www.discogs.com/release/stats/8653464#collection
>>65813749
he built a career off of selling shit music to yuppies
>>65814913
i think the only things on the msmsmsm site that are real are the silicon case cd, the vinyl singles from bleep and the silicon product. the cd and the sex toy weren't real for a long time and people who purchased them were left in the dark about it until a few made a stink
the glasses, jacket and shoes were fake the entire time, which sucks because the jacket would hae been so dope
>>65815010
this
anyone with a discogs wanna ask the people who have this album owned here? this could be our proof
>>65813423
BTW any proof of this? Links? IF TRUE, VAPORWAVE IS KILL AGAIN.
:P
My review:
http://tripfork.tumblr.com/post/146212004245/james-ferrarooo-human-story-3-2016-tripfork
>>65814650
YEAH-MA-HA
>>65815055
stop spamming your shitty blog that no one knows about. literally the worst thing i've ever seen.
>>65814951
well i mean, good music is good music for me
YA-MA-HA
>>65814018
Thank you for helping to defend /mu/ against this garbage. Drop your trip though, please. Anonymity is quite a thrill!
Why do people fool themselves into liking James Ferraro?
>>65813423
in what way does this invalidate the actual music?
also:
>buying physical
L M A O
>>65815179
Mostly because this board has been invaded by a lot of Marcel drones lately so they just blindly follow whatever he praises.
How are the tapes fake? Are they just blank?
>>65815189
you seem like a loser
>>65815133
kek
>>65815111
I get that - separating the art from the artist etc, etc. But so much of Ferraro's appeal comes from the context the art exist in and the concepts and extramusical content, so for me it seems a bit harder to divorce this shit from the music in his case.
>>65815055
>My review:
>tripfork.tumblr.com/
fuck me
>an already-great artist has transitioned into making actual modern classical/art music composer, and all /mu/ is doing is arguing about fucking cassettes
give me a break
>>65814368
You have a point there but you sound like a huge baby.
Well that blows, I ordered one of those
I guess it's somewhat okay though since I've been pirating his shit for years now
>>65815264
The issue is that are no cassettes. He's literally scamming people if this turns out to be true. That's sort of a big deal?
>>65815333
maybe they're just behind schedule
>>65815333
it's your fault for paying for music
this is how you get fucked
>>65814287
>Clearly not even knowing who James Ferraro is
>>65814403
for a second i thought sophie was the name of that gummy bear you were with
>buy shit music
>something bad happens
wowee
>>65815388
>it's your fault for paying for music
>>65814452
How new are you? James Ferraro has always been big on /mu/
>>65815388
I didn't pay for it. I've known about his past with this shit so I wasn't gonna risk it. I feel bad for the fans who might not be aware tho.
>>65815373
That's what I'm hoping, I mean, this hasn't even been confirmed after all.
>>65815388
Yes, it's our fault for putting our trust. But it's also our right to shit on James and demand justice.
>>65815264
The album is mediocre at best, pal. Get over it.
>>65815477
it's amazing, it's better than like 80 percent of the shit that gets posted here regularly.
>>65813423
Isn't James Ferraro a cocaine addict? And is stealing ironically still stealing?
>>65815455
This is justice
Idiot who are more interested in image than content and who listen to shitty music get screwed
Talented conmen make off with a cool buck and critical praise
All is right
>>65815264
What album are you talking about?
>>65815512
Are you inebriated?
>>65815534
Human Story 3
>>65815534
Human Story 3
>>65813423
>>65815107
What?????
>>65815495
>it's better than like 80 percent of the shit that gets posted here regularly.
not relly saying much desu
>>65815512
Jesus fuck. Stop strawmanning this hard. I like the music. Is that not enough to warrant a purchase?
>>65815264
>artist has transitioned from making complete dogshit to making complete dogshit (but it's meant to be shit XD)
>>65814650
YA-MA-HA
>>65815264
>he thinks HS3 is modern classical/art music because of the MIDI preset used
lmao
>>65815552
fuck you and fuck off idiot
>>65815509
um. yes?
>>65815567
>he doesn't know what classical means
o I am laffin
>>65815545
>>65815548
Just found it thanks boyos. Yeah I mean theres no doubt in my mind that James Ferraro is an extremely important musician
>>65815557
YA-MA-HA
>>65815555
wtf are you talking about
>>65815567
no, it's because it is actually *composed* like art music. it's not just beats and guitar riffs and shit, it is actually compositions (even if they are digital). it is structured like a classical piece and is very advanced musically.
Meme Man James btfo
>>65815589
but he doesn't mean it
>>65815609
>>65815590
>ferraro fans are this delusional
>>65815567
but it's literally a fucking classical record you dolt
>>65815626
>ferraro haters are THIS delusional
>buying tapes
>4000/2+8*2
they deserve it
>>65815621
It's still stealing mate
>>65815577
LMAO u mad as shit
:P
sound, DJ !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYxzRYMrcVc
>>65815626
>you are this delusional
>>65815629
I mean in a weird YAMAHA give me that cocain let me steal your fuckin cash kind of way I guess it is
idc james is still the best electronic musician out today
no one can do it better
>>65813611
Then good meme'd
>>65815648
fuck off, fuck you, and never talk to me again. i fucking hate you and go fucking die.
>>65815657
>>65815637
>>65815629
i bet you think kashiwa daisuke is a classical musician as well
>>65815640
I guess it depends on which way you choose to view society and given which construct you're subscribed to
You don't get it. The tapes are a metaphor for consumerism and he's saying fuck you to the whole process of buy/sell. It's a commentary on the fact cassettes are now seen as an obsolete medium, lost to time. You're buying something that isn't there, but it makes you feel whole anyway. This is art.
>>65815704
not him but there are definitely elements to it
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1wIcuX2UGz4
>>65815739
hi marcel
>>65815705
In what universe could it NOT be considered stealing?
>>65815771
>Look guys I know my /mu lore!
>>65815739
Juntaro Yamanouchi, are you still alive?
you guys sure are eager to win the race for who gets outraged first
>Ferraro fans are so delusional that they think some hackneyed MIDIchestral music tied up with some bullshit Deleuze/Baudrillard-copycat conceptual framing is a revolutionary work of art
this dude gets high on coke and tries to recreate the simcity 3000 soundtrack real genius
>>65815808
>On Human Story 3, James Ferraro paints a hyperrealistic portrait of modern consumerist society and the adoration for the post-digital age. Labeled as his very own “classical” record, this is a masterful suite that bluntly yet powerfully displays capitalism, market crashes, digital mediums, and various businesses that appeal to the average millennial consumer and middle-aged merchant. Ferraro’s latest is not so much a Music For iPads and Starbucks, Vol. 1 as it is a potent mirror to our current lifestyle; its brilliantly haunting MIDI choir and string arrangements serve as the backdrop and simultaneous forefront to a text-to-speech narrator that works as a crucial element to Human Story 3′s main conceptual drive and aesthetics. Like a robotic secretary on the Virtual Cloud™ above a modern, dreamy CGI Mario landscape, we are presented with the “individualism” and “commercial simulacra” of IKEA, Starbucks, market crashes, touchscreen GPS variations, GoPros, Microsoft, freeways, yoga, lattes, burning Priuses, the contemporary plasticity of the “real” world, global markets, our own reflective digital products, smartphones, etc. With each one-punch reminder of Human Story 3′s surreal yet fitting take on state-of-the-art merchandising and worldwide retails, Ferraro peels back more and more layers of the album’s often satiric but undeniably artistically moving and important exhibition of the post-internet sphere’s postmodernist appeal.
wow, really?
Hey guys, James here. Cassettes are on the way.
>>65815808
no one is saying it's revolutionary, just very good.
>>65815850
it's neither
>>65815869
actually, it is very good
Wait this stock image thing everyone's posting was supposed to be an actual album?
I thought we were all in on a prank here.
>>65815910
It is a joke, just some people failed to realize that.
>>65815910
no, it's real
James Ferraro - Human Story 3
it's breddy gud imo
>>65815910
Ya it's a pretty cringy cover
let me get this straigh, people are actually paying this guy for cassette tapes? and they're upset that they're not real somehow?
dude its a casette tape, a.) its obsolete, and b.) its pretty much guaranteed to be illegitimate
>>65815782
James Ferraro is not a thief he's an artist
>>65815959
cassettes are part of the aesthetic and the vibe bro you dont get it
>>65815959
>obsolete
not true. My '08 Toyota Avalon has a state of the art cassette deck.
>>65815910
>>65815929
It's a real album you fucking retards its on YouTube. Stop pretending like you know what's going on
>>65815959
>b.) its pretty much guaranteed to be illegitimate
![1355331549061[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HjnJQd9.jpg "1355331549061[1].jpg")
>>65816000
>>65816000
I asked because I have no fucking clue what's going on.
johnny ferrari
>>65816037
>>65815933 is correct
rest are memes
no, it's not like the jason aldean memeshit or that mario thing where people don't actually like it/it doesn't actually exist
ok, i get that the cassette tape thing is part of the aesthetic.
But a modern exchange in casette tapes should be inherently associated with illegitimate copying and black market business. Is the problem that these tapes are somehow not authentic? or did the artist simply not produce an album, which he is selling tapes for in advance?
I'd honestly let James cuck me. He can fuck my gf. I'm willing to let this slide because of how FSV affected my life. Top 5 album for me all time.
>>65816025
Yeah dude you were pretending to be a retard, I got ya.
>>65816037
oh sorry I thought you were being sarcastic
Never listened to Ferraro before.
I'm listening to Skid Row on youtube right now and it's just some dumb yung lean shit. Is this one of those things like Old Boots New Dirt where people pretend it's good?
>>65816093
Skud Row is bad senpai. Listen to Nightdolls with hairspray. Excellent entry level ferraro. If you think that is too "plebby" listen to iAsia.
>>65816093
No, the dude has like 150 albums of vastly different styles. Skid Row doesn't represent his sound at all.
>>65816093
Check out Condo Pets and Far Side Virtual
>>65816093
Skid Row is fantastic you glunk
>>65816071
what seemingly happened (not confirmed year as nobody's received tapes)
>James makes album
>list 200 cassettes for sale
>supposedly they haven't shipped like they're supposed to
>he (or a collaborator of his at least) has done shady shit like not sending stuff before
>some twitter account is claiming he doesn't have any cassettes and has scammed people
that's it
>>65814018
This.
I will never forgive you Vaporshits for proving Montie right for once.
>>65815055
I feel bad for giving you page views
>>65814018
the tapes are a joke (possibly), the music (which is more important) is not.
I'm going back to listening to Yung Lean fuck this guy
>>65816093
The fact that Yung Lean was what your brain related to Skid Row means you probably don't listen to a lot of music.
>>65816136
*not confirmed yet
god damnit
>>65816172
What's with plebs comparing Yung Lean to Ferraro?
>>65814018
Don't fuck off Montie.
>>65816209
they're both aesthetic
my gf likes ferraro and yung lean and she found them on tumblr apparently
can you not just ask paypal or bandcamp or whatever to refund you
seems like BS
>>65815739
>thievery
>you don't get it
>>65816209
Their general memeyness is quite similar.
>>65816305
>aesthetic
You're using that word wrong
>>65816179
When will it ever be confirmed? Do you think James is going to waltz out and be like, "Yeah, that was just a bit of a goof."
>>65816381
Neck yourself
>>65816479
You enjoy listening to memes and nothing you say can change that.
I just got my copy in the mail, guys!!!!!!!!
i'm gonna buy one just to fuck with life
this bandcamp pic makes him look like a male version of that chick who made Infinite Jest into a bong and shilled the story on /lit/, what a cumstain. i despise her but i'm giving this guy money, patriachey art work b(u)oy
>>65815555
that picture is fucking scary....
>>65816533
>Making infinite jest into a bong
I did not think it was possible for someone to miss the fucking point so hard on every level possible
>>65816528
Neck yourself
>>65813997
>as far as the artist we're talking about, i see this as somewhat excusable
literally eat shit. you, and everyone who thinks like you, are the reason people don't trust DIY artists/labels anymore.
>>65815648
get in a bin
>>65814499
>>65814097
>>65814059
>>65813652
99% certain OESB or someone related, like HKE, WosX or Liz are behind the vaporwave funds account. I know the guy and that's exactly something he would do/support.
It's probably all done to hype up the album.
Because there is no such thing as bad publicity and I'm quite sure OESB believes in that too.
>>65816163
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Yl5EoO5jE3
dude's a genius and this thread simply proves it
>>65816610
be mad with me
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/consider-the-pothead-i-smoked-weed-out-of-infinite-jest
>>65814018
is your girlfriend a tranny or just ugly?
![Trollface[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WEIj13K.png "Trollface[1].png")
>>65816830
it's a truly epic troll on the audience. pic related, my boy ferrari right now
>>65816610
I find it ironic that she is in what is considered the new sincerity movement but she is too lazy to finish the foundation tome of the movement
>>65816839
fucking hilarious 10/10
what a hero
>>65813423
That's to bad cause I heard he's was gonna sing for Swans
>>65816861
nice post-ironic shitposting
>>65816905
alt-lit and new-sincerity are different
>>65815605
YA-MA-HA
>>65816635
Y A - M A - H A
A
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M
A
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H
A
James Ferraro is garbage. Bandcamp tier.
>>65816341
yeah, a dnr is a super easy process, especially if you pay with a credit card
you can bypass the entire paypal refund process and take it directly to your provider. some will give you back your money, no questions asked for dnrs
>>65817144
well he released it on bandcamp, so obviously it is
reminder that at this stage its just a rumor
>>65817316
go to bed james
>>65817333
theres no confirmation
>>65817353
hi james!
>>65817389
>>65817333
he's right you know
>>65816944
most of them are new sincerity still. she is even on the wikipedia page for it
>>65817501
hello james
>>65818020
go to bed james!
>>65818030
why
it's 8:53pm
>>65818050
james lives on the west coast you idiot
>>65818050
confirmed not james.
mountain time scum!
