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Maybe if I wear special clothes and present an image of black mystique nobody will notice that my playing is laughable.
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>>65795845
Of course anon. Why do you think hip hop loving teenagers on an image board would care how good someone can play or how creative or original their music is? The only important thing is image.
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I wouldn't call his playing laughable, but I really cannot think of one innovative aspect of the epic. It's completely forgettable outside of a few good grooves
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>>65795931
It worked before right?
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>>65796036
fuck off, kiiinda, but fuck off. pharoah's way better then fuckin kumasi
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>>65797045
everyone tells me pharoah sanders is good and kamasi washington is bad :~)
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I love how he thinks that just because he has one meme album and was heavily featured on another meme album that all of a sudden he's Questlove.
It's hilarious.
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What makes his album a meme again? I've never listened to it
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>>65798522
It's literally called "The Epic"
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WE WUZ

DA CHANGING OF DA GUARD
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>>65798537
But you know that an Epic is an ancient narrative poem and not an internet meme, right?
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>>65795845
But... NPR says it's racist not to like it.
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>>65798487
But Questlove is literally only notable for having a big record collection. He's not a great musician so I don't see the point you're trying to make.
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>>65795845
He's not a bad musician though. Just a bad songwriter. Like if the album had been called "Kamasi Washington does Coltrane" or something I'm sure /mu/ would think he was a relevant up-and-comer and be excited for what he would be up to next.
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>>65798589
I do but not a lot do.
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>>65798615
He's not a good musician either. He could be a promising up and comer. He should take a couple years and practice and write music and try to develop his own sound and I don't see why he couldn't produce something good.
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>>65798610
Questlove's resume
>Illadelph Halflife
>Things Fall Apart
>Fantastic Vol 2.
>Like Water for Chocolate
>Baduizm
>Blazing Arrow
>Worked on Voodoo and Black Messiah

He's a legitimate giant in black music, not that you obviously know anything about that given your reply but all the same. Kamasi Washington is a noob.
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>>65798677
All that is pop music tho nigga. It says more about you that you think that "resume" is impressive.
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>he can't tell the different innovations Washington puts in his music that sets it apart from even 2000s jazz
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>>65798723
Kamasi Washington has only worked on pop music himself, it says even more about you that you think I'm not aware of the situation.
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>>65798787
Nigga, follow the conversation, I've never even listened to Kamasi. I ain't defending him. I'm simply pulling down the pedestal you put Questlove on.
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>>65798901
He's still going to remain on that pedestal because I love all the albums that I listed, you haven't heard all of them, I know you haven't, because you're talking baseless shit, you think Questlove is just a dude with a record collection because you haven't actually heard his music. You just need to get your head out of your ass, I'm trying to help you not be an ignorant faggot.
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>>65798962
I have no clue what Illadelph Halflife is. But I heard everything else and it's not worthy of high praise, soz but not soz.
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>>65798784
Care to name a few then?
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>>65798962
He's not wrong tho. Guy is average musician. Solid historian. Great personality. That's it, yo. Find a worthier dick to ride.
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>>65798991
It's an album from The Roots.
You're full of shit.
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>>65799062
What can I say? I don't pursue music I don't like. I haven't rated it on my RYM. Unless it's a departure from their usual shit, I probs won't bother looking into it either. Soz not soz.
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>>65799214
Not him but everything from D'Angelo is worth a revisit if you want to
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>>65799251
I don't dislike D'Angelo. I just don't see what it is about Questlove's contribution that is so special.
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>>65796030
this
>>65796036
please don't say things like this to people.
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>>65799270
I think he's behind the best stuff on Voodoo which I think is also arguably some of the best soul ever recorded.
Playa Playa and Africa are like 11/10 tracks
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As a fan of avant garde and free jazz i thought i would hate the album, but i find it to be well composed. I do agree thag kamasi is a weak musician but he is an excellent composer
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The Epic is an album that is hard to criticize. It's obviously an amateur album: the easiest first sight of this is the label. Brainfeeder is not known for high level Jazz performers: the pseudo-Jazz of 2010's FlyLo and Thundercat is not exactly pivotal material. If Kamasi were a talented soloist, he would be on a real specialist label. So the album, in fact, was always destined to be mediocre. Its special features such as the chorus and of course the monumental length are notable, but the compositions strain for individuality yet end up sounding too much like an amateur copy of older styles than an earnest study and reinterpretation of them. But if we're charting the weak points of the record, the weakest of all would of course be Kamasi himself. Whereas his bandmates are able to pull off generally satisfactory solos (but the pianist and trombonist...ugh), he sticks to mostly one register, one scale, and often struggles to think of creative ideas in his improvisations.

So then, why is it hard to criticize? Well, as aforementioned, this was not destined to be some genius triumph, not destined for jazz-classic status. But more importantly, I think of it the same as Max Richter's mediocre recomposition of Vivaldi from years back. Just as kitsch, just as lacking in creativity. But, importantly, popular: it ranks with RYM's other AOTD picks in the 2010's chart. And something makes me at least want to believe that The Epic and Recomposed really will work as jumping off points for listeners, that they won't just settle for these token albums but rather dive into classical music or jazz eagerly and discover the true masterpieces of each genre. Perhaps that's overly optimistic and this is just more flavor-of-the-month crap. But I've never been one to be a pessimist.
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>>65798723

Why is your handler letting you use a computer
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>>65798441
they're correct
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>>65799556
What specific aspects of his composing do you find exceptional?
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