Who is the most patrician female musician?
None of them. Women can't identify with music at a spiritual level.
It's just another superficial fashion choice for them to appropriate.
>>65773517
>op pic when
Solex
Sophie
>>65773475
BJork or Kate Bush.
Also didn't you literally post this a week ago with the exact same image? Are you actually Anita Sarkeesian, because if so, good show.
>>65773517
This is half right, you need to separate the two categories "actual female musicians" and "girls that listen to music" the latter is absolutely right.
jarboe
joanna newsom
This one
fiona apple
Meredith Monk
>>65773517
this. women are walking uteruses
>>65773550
This desu
>>65773517
>>65773802
I STILL DREAM
OF ORGONON
okay.......................
as a girl i'm offended...................!!!!
please stop talking shit about us women, there's clearly talented females, such as >>65773554
>>65773566
>inb4 PJ Harvey
>>65773849
organon*, slut
>>65773566
>>65773851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SU0gFPMwP8
>>65773873
Suck a dick:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgonon
>>65773475
Pic related obviously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klQTj76Qo9k
>>65773517
fpbp
The only reason why there aren't many 'patrician' women in the music is that the industry is still treating them as second-class or objects.
Also acts like Beyonce and Minaj doesn't count, they are just puppets that exploit feminism just to gain fans and sell their products.
>>65774050
>the industry is still treating them as second-class or objects
Notice only the shitty ones ever say anything about this. It's almost like the only way they can get any recognition is to manufacture controversy.
>>65774076
>bjork
>shitty
Why do women have to prove that they produce their own music /mu/? Why is it just expected of men?
>treating them as second-class or objects.
I will never understand you faggots. The industry treats every musician like this. The only difference is if the girl is hot they're going to force her to use her sex appeal.
>>65774186
Meant to reply to >>65774050
>>65774115
Remembered Bjork saying people think she doesn't do much work on her own stuff but that's the only exception I can think of. There's plenty of female musicians that make their own shit and get recognition without complaining about some retarded limitations that there apparently are.
And I don't remember what Bjork said but did it have to do with the industry? I don't think being skeptical about how the work is distributed is "treating them as second class or objects". And Bjork is one of the people you can point at as a woman that got pretty far in the industry and overcame whatever limitations there might have been that other women can do to if they want to.
Hildegard von Bingen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Sj3blczB8
>>65774186
So why aren't they forcing Oneohtrix Point Never to use his sex appeal? He's a dreamboat and I'd like to see him in less than a huge sweater
>1nb4 mental gymnastics
>>65773475
Julian Casablancas
>>65774207
Because unless you are in a boyband or are a pop singer they don't bother.
>>65774207
>difference is girls are forced to use sex appeal if they're hot
>ask why supposedly attractive male musician isn't forced to use his
Kill yourself.
>>65773517
>Women can't identify with music at a spiritual level.
Who is Elizabeth Fraser you insufferable, clueless toad?
>>65774206
t. embryo
>>65773615
in terms of songwriting, yes
but
i would say
someone like tatiana nikolayeva
>>65774207
>ugly fat nerd with shitty facial hair
>dreamboat
yeah k
Any answer that isn't Kate Bush is objectively wrong
>>65773851
I wish this post was real.
Seriously you guys are getting too good at this
Any answer that isn't Grimes is objectively wrong
How the fuck has no one mentioned Grouper?! She's patrician as fuck and a lowkey qt to boot.
>>65774165
It's called sexism
Marina is the most patrician Female pop artist out there
>proove me wrong i fucking dare you
>>65774622
>le epic quirky pseudo-melancholic memefolk dronefest
Further proof that femininity and art are mutually exclusive.
>>65774712
Can you give criticism that doesn't rely on buzzwords? I'd gladly hear it.
>>65774774
I was just shitposting. I actually agree with you.
I hope none of you wonder why you don't have girlfriends
>>65773517
Music by female composers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n249VAq0KWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3GUbWZ81AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESKga2SMlss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e72A_MHnHDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZahU3MsSzlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIHmrIckpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPjiT9iR8Qk bns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthKtOneZDM rdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAczwhihCyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQqR-uOAS4
>>65774872
>but they're such nice guys
>>65774951
>all of the examples are from anime
I'm fucking dying.
>>65773898
the is the most annoying fucking video ever kill yourself. joanna newsom is not even close to this
>>65773517
>>65773551
>>65773802
when did /pol/ get here?
bjork
>>65773517
At least you won't have kids
>>65775072
That's not /pol/, that's /r9k/.
>>65775035
>all of the examples are from anime
What about it?
>>65775093
and you won't either, you'll just have your wife's kids
>>65773517
It's fun to troll, but be careful you don't start believing your own nonsense.
>>65774951
Huh I noticed I left my notes in some of those (so I remember which link is which).
>>65775061
You sound triggered
Unironically, Joanna Newsom. Prove me wrong.
>>65773540
>>65773725
Closest ITT
>>65773475
Regina Spektor
>>65774951
Way to disregard your point by posting only anime music.
sonja kristina from curved air
>>65776248
How does that invalidate my point?
>>65773517 said that no women are capable at making music.
>>65773517
congrats on baiting an entire thread's worth of comments
NEED HER I NEED HER I NEED HER I NEED HER ANITA ANITA ANITA ANITA ANITA ANITA ANITA ANITA
>>65773475
sachiko m.
>LOOK AT ME I HAVE A VAGINA XD
>>65773566
>>65776033
Two dubs when stating this opinion? Dubs, as well as her flawless output, clearly confirm this. Joanna Newsom is the best female musician working today.
Has partrician taste: Ke$ha, too bad her own music is such garbage.
Is a partrician: Dagmar Krause, I especially like the Art Bears
>>65773475
Grimes. One of the most forward thinking, relatable, modern, acclaimed artists of the decade. /mu/'s negative opinions about her don't count.
>>65773475
This bitch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9H933ttaYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLfhPVjg7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6GFqyxi90
Julia Holter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzzpkDPetZU
>>65777111
>Has partrician taste: Ke$ha
The true patricians are the ones who like Ke$ha's music unironically.
>>65773475
PJ Harvey is the most critically unassailable obvs
WARM TONE AND THICK LOW FREQUENCIES
![1118full-martha-argerich-print-poster-587565949[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K8eVaSr.jpg "1118full-martha-argerich-print-poster-587565949[1].jpg")
Are you kidding me? You manchildren are so pathetic
>>65773517
If you were actually stupid enough to fall for this very obvious bait then you should honestly consider suicide.
>>65778350
I pretended to fall for it. Looks like you fell for my ruse.
>>65773475
>Bjork
>Martina Topley Bird
>Elizabeth Fraser
>Kim Deal
>Kazu Makino
>Sinead O Connor
>Shirely Manson
>Nai Palm
>Elly Jackson
>Beth Gibbons
>>65774700
>patrician
>pop
Vektroid
>>65776845
this
>>65778624
>Shirley Manson
Great choice
>>65774622
What are your favorite Grouper albums? Mine are Way Their Crept, Dream Loss, and Cover the Windows and the Walls :^)
>>65773517
damn...
>>65779321
Wide of course
>Imposter in the Sky
>Giving it to You
>Agate Beach
>Shadow Rise, Drowned
Diamanda Galas
>>65773517
adding to your (you's) you lonely virgin
>>65773517
lol and they can't use Logic or Reason either rite guys?
Grimes
>A fairly regular Vancouver kid, with interests like anime, Harry Potter and Mariah Carey, it was during her adolescence that, as Garossino puts it, “something very strange happened.”
>“She changed into some kind of super-brain, exploring the internet all the time.”
>Teenage Boucher’s obsessions ranged from space travel, to the twelfth-century composer Abbess Hildegard von Bingen, to Russian existentialist lit. She crushed so hard on Dostoyevsky that she even flew to St. Petersburg to attend an intensive Russian immersion.
>But as with Grimes’ music, Boucher preferred autodidactism. Garossino recalls hearing Boucher teach one of Chopin’s nocturnes to herself, bar by bar. But only through the wall—at the time, Boucher had too much stage fright to even play the piano in front of her mother.
>“Something that people don't understand about Claire is her searing intellect and focus,” Garossino said. “Whenever you think you've figured her out, she's already three moves ahead. Things are never what they seem.”
>Her mother related how at McGill, the wunderkind wanted to take physics, but couldn’t stand introductory courses. Instead, Boucher entered higher-level classes and studied the prerequisite material at the same time. “She would nearly kill herself studying—surviving on almost no sleep for weeks at a time.”
>“And that's how she makes music today. In long, solitary blasts of blistering intensity.”
>>65779453
That was my favorite for a long time, I almost forgot
>>65775072
>implying it hasn't always been here
>>65773475
Don't you mean "matrician"?
>>65773475
it's Kate Bush
>>65781113
is that the singer from ghost? damn I knew she was cute
>>65774050
>the industry is still treating them as second-class or objects
Elaborate, if you please.
>>65774207
I image searched him because of this post and I am very disappointed
>>65782016
>I'm getting my hard head ready to treat this discussion about human society like a scientific experiment
>>65773475
Bjork
>begins making music at 10, in a isolated country out of the world
>first album recorded at 11, but she didn’t want to contract any label pursuits
>first punk band at 14
>been part of the Icelandic post-punk movement of the 80s
>labeled and toured with Crass and Einstürzende Neubauten with her band KUKL in the ’84-’85
>founder and lead singer of the Sugarcubes, first world acclaimed Icelandic band
>outstanding vocal capabilities with unique timbre and unmatchable emotive mark like I never heard before
>makes jazz scat-singing like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y01fP1GFJgk
>goes solo at 28 and releases Debut, one of the first albums credited to have introduced acid house and electronica into mainstream
>an involving discography made only by beautiful records, each one very different from the others, both musically and emotively
>experimented with every kind of electronica, with influences and elements that range from trip-hop to IDM, from classical to avant-garde, to chamber pop to industrial
>>65782149
>a polyhedral attitude and interest in every kind of music
>being Thom’s hugest crush
>hosted the documentary Modern Minimalists
>powerful skilled performer with overwhelming live shows
>wants each of her song represented visually in her own way
>has music videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2tBhaVEWGM
>is also a great hidden actress
>multimedial artist who runs a interdisciplinary art project which is school subject in Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Greenland and Denmark
>has her own installations into a museum
>interviewed significant music figures such as Stockhausen, Arvo Part and John Cage, whose all demonstrated appreciation for her music
>50 years old today and still releasing beautiful music and art
>>65782077
>discussion hasn't even started
>already strawmanning
nice
>>65782191
>the only thing I retained from debate class was the concept of strawman arguments
>and I'm not ashamed to show it
>>65782243
>another strawman
>>65782077
Well, if you think you can argue for your position I want to hear it.
If the music industry as a whole is treating women unfairly based on their gender then something should be done about it. I wouldn't want to be kept in the dark regarding something like that. As it stands, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest such blatant discrimination.
>inb4 you either tell me to fuck off to my containment board or post something anecdotal without a shred of anything to back it up
itt: people more concerned with news articles and rhetoric than music
Carol Kaye.
Because I am an oldfag.
>>65773517
replying to this post for the sake of
>>65774834
>/mu/ in a nutshell
>>65773475
>>65776431
why aren't more people talking about what a turbo-qt Anita is
>>65785386
you wot
![delia_derbyshire[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LkmIHMZ.jpg "delia_derbyshire[1].jpg")
>>65785446
>le femimism is badd!!!!!
Anita is a smug cunt but I want to fuck her face and snuggle her butt
>>65774700
Why was froot so bland and boring.
>>65785498
>>le femimism is badd!!!!!
what the hell?
>Anita is a smug cunt
correct
>but I want to fuck her face and snuggle her butt
I think there's something wrong with you
>>65785551
Wrong
>>65785595
S U M M E R
U
M
M
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![arton14909-4b4c4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fd9ENrU.jpg "arton14909-4b4c4[1].jpg")
>>65785386
tru. I have an inexplicable thing for andro middle eastern girls
>>65781942
I'm using this instead of patrician from now on
>>65773475
Lana Del Rey
>>65785386
>>65785677
/r/ing the picture of her butt from twitter
Bjork, Jarboe, Beth Gibbons, Kate Bush, Regine Chasaggne.
>>65785877
what? yes please, she's getting thick af lately
PJ Harvey, Patti Smith, Nico.
>>65785656
It was though especially when compare to TFJ or EH I mean like her too many but music wise I found froot to be meh at best likeshe. I know she was still burn out from EH but I rather her wait longer than release from we got from froot.
>>65785485
techno pioneer
>>65773475
This broad would embarrass any one of us in our knowledge of music.
>>65774207
men are the market for music
people always talk about music and women but they never realize that there's fucking truck loads of female musicians in the classical world that are some of the best players out there but instead peddle their bullshit on here.
>>65782644
>anecdotal without a shred of anything to back it up
I don't know what you expect should be available to prove an attitude that everyone is raised to take on toward women, bro. Some secret document outlining a clear agenda? In some supervillain's layer?
Maybe you should listen when women tell you about their experiences, assuming any woman trusts you enough.
>>65785877
Still waiting on Anita's booty here.
>>65788415
Not anon, but some women have a tendency to be so hyper-focused on patriarchal oppression that they begin to see it everywhere they look. In fact, there's a term called Scoptoma, which is a condition where essentially the eyes see what the mind believes (whether it's a number or conspiracy or whatever). And because of societies pathological obsession with equality these days, many left-leaning women tend to make mountains out of molehills, and every difficulty they face gets lumped into ""the patriarchy"" or ""Rape culture"" or whatever other ambiguous term they've cooked up.
I realize this is total speculation, but so is this notion that every time a woman experiences a roadblock, or criticism, that chauvanism must be at the root of it. Feminists often forget that men experience oppression as well, just in different forms.
You could continue to whine and complain about oppression, or you could simply maintain focus on your objectives, and not let petty bullshit like a man calling you a bitch wreck you.
But I guess I'm probably just """"part of the problem""""
>>65788390
>female musicians in the classical world
Because they make boring music, that's why no one cares. How much soundtrack-like music could you listen without getting sick? All the good classical composers are dead long time ago.
no contest
>>65773550
go to bed anita
>>65789130
Friendly reminder
Midori
>0 critical acclaim
>0 commercial success
>joke of the industry
Solo career
>attempts to become an actress, release more "commercial" music
>same three points above still apply
>>65773517
rude
T B H
>>65790123
Tragic story for the ages
>>65785877
Looking for this one too
>>65773517
This
>>65777483
I love her
![1431793173810[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RbEKEq6.jpg "1431793173810[1].jpg")
>>65789076
>>65790123
>Midori
>>0 critical acclaim
>>0 commercial success
>>joke of the industry
wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlAf3YVMlag
>>65780555
This has gotta be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.
>>65773517
Nice fedora
>>65774951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPGThfD_GY
>>65773517
>21 (You)s
Congratulations, anon.
>>65785826
This
Julianna Barwick
So are we not getting the Sarkeesian Booty of promise?
https://youtu.be/Vkfpi2H8tOE
>inb4 Yoko Ono
>>65773517
>None of them
Well he's not wrong.
>not the first response
>>65774700
The Idler Wheel is the best pop album of the decade desu
Joanna. She is objectively brilliant. It is literally impossible to argue for her music being bad without completely misunderstanding it
>>65790123
DELETE THIS
JOANNA NEWSOM
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Pic related.
>>65773475
Grace Slick.
>>65794372
P.S. And because /mu/ is a bunch of babies that don't know shit about music, that's Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane and Jefferson Starship.
I bet he's porking her as we speak.
Probably has to wear ear plugs
POST MORE HOT SARKEESIAN
>>65773517
>It's just another superficial fashion choice for them to appropriate.
Funny, because that's what everyone says about /mu/ users.
>>65794488
>>65794488
>>65794988
>>65794881
thissss
>>65794488
They're probably the worst couple to hang out with.
>>65795150
yeah if you're an edgy 16-year-old
i wanna fuck anita
>>65794488
What the fuck do these two even talk about? I just can't imagine them together and he ruins the entire mystique of her, just don't understand why she would possible be with him.
>>65795352
because she's just a normal person, she's a fantastic singer and musician but in reality she's just some random person
>>65795352
he makes her laugh, retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWdAQZL56E
>>65773475
music isn't patrician, listeners are. if you listen to particular music because you think it's patrician, you are a pleb. being patrician is about being an open-minded and critical listener, the idea of their being set patrician music is antithetical to that.
>>65795352
>he ruins the entire mystique of her
she's a person, not a magic trick you autist
>>65780641
I'm kind of sceptical considering how boring Grimes' opinions are, I haven't seen her say anything out of line with Tumblr orthodoxy.
>>65795480
this
>>65795352
She's probably an insecure cunt who likes the fact that he's completely non-threatening in every single way.
>>65795444
>makes her laugh
Does anyone honestly find this utterly juvenile dickhead the least but funny?
>>65795541
>She's probably an insecure cunt
oh the ironing
>Does anyone honestly find this utterly juvenile dickhead the least but funny?
yeah, she does
you are literally seething with jealousy
>>65780641
That's all very interesting, but Art Angels was still mediocre
post tfw gay and womeme tactics arent very effective
>>65795610
>jealousy
Yeah, a bit
And by "anyone", I was referring to anyone in here, dipshit
>>65795734
lol at least you're honest
that Bin Laden song he just did was funny af tbhfam
>>65795734
>And by "anyone", I was referring to anyone in here, dipshit
Joanna lurks every day
>>65795752
To each their own I guess. Personally, I think Andy Samberg makes Adam Sandler films look like High Art.
>>65783995
https://youtu.be/q15LqTowvhA
Carol Kaye was a member of the Wrecking Crew. She probably played on more top 40 records than anyone alive.
If you listen to a beach boys record, she is likely playing on it. She also played on some cuts of Frank Zappa's freak out record.
>>65795879
you're trying too hard if you actually think that, Adam Sandler is worse than Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg
>>65795917
>trying too hard
What are you talking about?
>>65795917
>all these merchant names
/pol/ was right again.
>>65796028
nigga please
>>65796071
all your favorite comedies were written by Shekelsteins
>>65796071
Lol. Were you evet in doubt that Jews control the media/entertainment industry?
>>65795907
>>65783995
why the FUCK are so many women bass players, there's way more of them than drummers or guitarists it seems
>>65796116
>all your favorite comedies were written by Shekelsteins
You still watch the electric talmudvision? Fucking pleb.
>>65774700
> Not Saint Vincent
> Not FKA Twigs
Okay, friendo. :^)
>>65781967
Get this hack outta here.
>>65796218
Easiest instrument. Would have been drums but takes too much physical effort.
>>65796363
Nice meme
>>65796422
>meme
He's fuckin right
>>65773517
uh.... i would have said none because females would be Matrician
>>65773566
is liking Andy Samberg patrician now?
