Post a director, others decide their musical equivalent
BrokeNCYDE - all of them
film is a shite medium
>>65742572
kanye west
>>65742649
Twenty One Pilots
>>65742649
lil wayne
>>65742649
Nah that's lil wayne
>>65742775
Radiohead obviously
>>65742572
https://youtu.be/Uv-FoLm5z-I
>>65742806
>>65742958
Fucking really? It's obvious, Michael Bay is Waka Flocka. Dumb, shitty, explosive garbage that you hate to love
>>65742586
>film is a shite medium
you're missing out man. Film is pretty freaking great to get into, don't just dismiss it out of hand
>>65742586
Dismissing a medium because of big budget overproduced mainstream stuff is stupid. That's like saying all music is Top 40
>>65743098
Umm, excuse me, you don't hate to love Waka. You just love him.
>>65743189
True
If a person can't belt out at least the first 30 seconds of Hard In the Paint when it comes on at a party, it's a pretty litmus test that they aren't my kind of person
>>65742586
>film is a shite medium
care to explain anon?
>>65743119
>>65743173
>>65743245
It's a dead form now.
Ozu, Kiarostami, Tarr took cinema as far as it could go. Plus it's constantly bogged down by concerns for budget, appeal, time etc. All restrictions on the artists' ability to communicate something truly original.
"Cinema will last one century. That's all." - Chris Marker, French new-wave director
>>65743349
that's a very specific viewpoint though
I mean I think Werckmeister Harmonies is one of the best films of the past 30 years, but I also think that about terminator 2 and shit like Die Hard or Crank
Film doesn't have to be pushing the boundary to be good, it just has to be fucking true. And all great action movies are true in a way
Pink Floyd
>>65743453
> just like me enjoy my dumb american bullshit
go right ahead, retard
>>65743478
see man that's what I'm saying, if you go into it with that mindset the shit is fucking awful, agreed
I picked some of the most egregious choices I could to emphasize my point, but I think that you have to agree that action movies are interesting. At least the great ones are
I mean, hell, not every movie has to be slow to be good. There's definitely some art in having a movie that doesn't drop the pace a single bit in 2 hours and doesn't have a boring minute
>>65742649
Tarkovskyeezy
>>65743469
are you replying to OP? you know "others" decide which artist it is.
>>65743390
children of bodom
>>65743349
lmao thanks for telling us who chris marker is kid
>>65743006
Scorcese is like...Jigga. many different styles, insane longevity and his recent work is pretty meh, but people get hype regardless.
>>65743349
All forms of art are dead. We have explored all possible ideas already. So should we stop making things and be cynical forever?
>>65743656
Can't tell if you're OP or just a anon wasting time implying a rule i don't bother for.
>>65743349
Eh, people have been declaring cinema dead for 50 years and it's still very much alive. There are still great films if you know where to look.
It's about to change though, and for the better. All that VR shit getting big and more technological advances in terms of cameras/sound equipment will liberate cinema from money, from being the ultimate storytelling form, from the constraints of realistic visual representation. Somewhat like what happened to painting after photography.
It'll get smaller, but better.
>>65743785
I honestly think video games will be considered a serious form of art sometime this century. Once consoles stop dividing the community and it becomes easier for people to create their own work, I think we'll start seeing great stuff.
>>65743851
Yeah, I can see a merge between video games & virtual reality conquering the masses in the near future.
There'll be good stuff for sure, but I'm an oldschool guy and will probably stick to cinema.
>>65743349
<all restrictions on the artist ability to communicate something truly original
what the fuck does this even mean. Every art form takes some amount of time, effort, and resources. It is true that most heavily consumed art forms like film and music tend to have many big studio backed projects that simply go for mass appeal, but who gives a shit? it shouldn't matter. People can still pick up a camera and innovate. Film has only been around for a little over a century, and if you think mankind has said all it can say through the medium, then you're fucking delusional.
>muh french new wave director quotes
Fuckin kek.
>>65743696
nah, Scorsese is more talented than Jay Z tbqh, Reasonable Doubt vs Taxi Driver, two completely different levels of quality (nothing against Jay Z, but lets be real here)
Id say he's more like the Rolling Stones or maybe Led Zeppelin
>>65742572
Arvo Pärt
>>65742649
Taylor Swift
>>65742775
The Beatles
>>65743006
I know it's obvious, but you gotta go with The Stones
>>65743469
Beethoven
>>65743390
Weezer
>>65744052
>PTA The Beatles
>Kubrick Beethoven
you can't be fucking serious
>>65744052
Flaming Lips
>>65743349
>being this much of an insufferably pretentious do-nothing
>it's a dead art form
But... that's objectively untrue.
Ever wonder why people don't take you seriously, anon?
???
>>65744136
radiohead
>>65744110
Yeah, I was pretty serious. I suppose you're going to tell me why my opinion is incorrect though, huh?
PTA: a diverse oeuvre, which isn't anything particularly new, but he's a master of the craft, and a relatively unique auteur.
Kubrick: A master who is revered by almost every single relevant director. He wasn't exactly an auteur, but each film is a paragon of fastidiousness and taste.
>>65743941
this is true. I wasn't thinking Taxi Driver. I was thinking more like raging bull, King of Comedy for some reason.
I still wouldn't say Rolling Stones. What is the rolling stones' Taxi Driver? that's like top five american cinema hands down.
The reason I said Jigga was because of both's interpertation of the working class from a upper class perspective. Both's fascination with the concept of the "American Dream" and both's fascination with religion (Jay Z more recently so,) and its direct ties to race and race relations.
Both also have a materialist and pragmatist approach to religion (See, last temptation of christ).
>>65744326
That's the exact words I'd use to describe PTA. PTA hasn't done a "White album" though. They also aren't alike thematically.
>>65743755
edge
>>65744712
>aren't alike thematically
True. Anderson's films are generally more plaintive and grim; whereas The Beatles are much more hopeful and optimistic.
>hasn't done a white album
That would be pretty difficult to achieve with a single film, given the diversity of the album.
>>65744052
Erik Satie
>>65744104
Not too familiar
>>65744379
>director
>>65744306
Thievery Corporation lol
>>65744891
Black Sabbath
>>65745206
>He hasn't seen the most hilariously pretentious movie of all time
>>65743349
>Ozu, Kiarostami, Tarr took cinema as far as it could go.
haha what
all three of them are fantastic filmmakers but the things that they did aren't the only things you can do with the medium
Belle and Sebastian
>>65745358
>implying venom and eternity is bad
kys pleb
>>65747054
Sonic Youth or Velvet Underground. Holy shit Stranger than Paradise and those bands are the epitome of "Too cool for school sunglasses and cigarettes" that was so typical of New York artists pre 1990.
>>65747086
The Kinks or Devo, no other answers.
Smash Mouth
>>65747109
Tortoise
>>65743390
Thugger Thugger
>>65744052
agreed!
>>65747088
It's great. But you're crazy if you're thinking it's not pretentious.
My Bloody Valentine
>>65744136
Death Grips
>>65744104
The Residents
>>65742775
Sonic Youth
>>65743006
I agree with this guy >>65744052
>>65743390
Coldplay
>>65747225
Tom Waits
>>65747489
no one. He is incomparable.
>>65747516
Coil
>>65747881
Big Star, maybe?
>>65747489
Ash Ra Tempel
>>65747257
Sigur Ros
>>65747225
Timber Timbre
>>65744379
Didn't he release a few spoken word poetry albums?
Who is the director equivalent to Ween? Tom Green?
>>65743349
Probably one of the worst opinions I've ever read on this board, and that's saying a lot.
And with the way you exalt Kiarostami and Tarr as "innovators" tells me you're likely an avant-teen in his first semester of film appreciation.
And originality=/=good.
>>65748603
The Avalanches
I say either Ligeti or Penderecki.
>>65747086
Literally vampire weekend
![apocalypse_now_colonists[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tJKZmF4.jpg "apocalypse_now_colonists[1].jpg")
>>65743888
nice trips. and yeah I'm going to be sad if VR and interactivity kills the frame and with it composition. Not to mention the guiding hand of the storyteller
>>65749761
Varg
>>65749792
Bob Dylan
![182481_1_f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wxONag8.jpg "182481_1_f[1].jpg")
>>65748603
his own shitty band
>>65749864
Captain Beefheart
>>65749856
interesting, in what way?
I could see Bob Dylan being someone like Charlie Chaplin maybe.
>beloved by many for his roots
>a fundamental change happens oin the production of their art that causes a severe trauma to thier fanbases.
>both well icon-ed by history
>>65748603
breaking benjamin
>>65749959
ween
>>65749959
Ariel Pink
>>65749990
Perfume Genius
>>65747225
Xiu Xiu
>>65749969
Satyajit Ray's films with there earthy-ness i equated with Dylan's walking-across-america-folk. Both tell stories showing how even though the rich may live excessive and mindless they have the same basic human miseries.
>>65743390
Muse
>>65747086
Neutral Milk Hotel
>>65750100
ok, fair enough. I can see what you're thinkin and I like it.
Also, whats your fav Ray film?
Mines the Music Room, that blew me away the first time I watched it.
>>65750176
Pather Panchali, but The Music Room is a close second. I've been meaning to see The Chess Players.
>>65743469
The Beatles
Genuinely great but hated by contrarians
>>65750213
>Pather Panchali
lovely.
I can't say I've seen The Chess players though. There is so much of his work that I need to re-watch as well just so I can go back and re-evaluate the cultural nuances.
When I first started watching his films I didn't have much of an idea of Indian culture as I do now.
Chanting priests
>>65743349
>Ozu, Kiarostami, Tarr took cinema as far as it could go
t. embryo
>>65742649
+1 for kanye
>>65743006
like led zeppelin. gritty, consistent, benchmarks
>>65743469
+1 for pink floyd
>>65744891
misfits
>>65747225
bowie
>>65747358
badly drawn boy
>>65747225
Aphex Twin
>>65747249
Talk Talk
>>65747257
Have a Nice Life
>>65747358
accurate
>>65747516
Tool
>>65749864
Pink Floyd
>>65750275
GY!BE
>>65750643
I'd have to say Henry Cow.
>>65747225
Nine Inch Nails
>>65750556
Rush
>>65750896
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm9ixly00Q8
It could only be another Jap.
>>65743851
by 'serious form of art', do you just mean acknowledged as a creative medium, or be seen as Fine Art?
because sure, video games involve aesthetics, and there can be a narrative, but the heart of it is usually in the game, which doesn't qualify as art any more than football does.
the more immersive and aesthetic games may have a status closer to a kind of maneuverable film or literature, but I wouldn't call these a 'serious form of art'. they'd usually be popular arts, the equivalent of popular movies or any other low brow form.
fine art, even if it plays with popular materials/forms/subject matter, is still very much a distinct world that any game would have to be created in the mode of to qualify. there's the whole Duchampian idea that it merely needs be denoted as art, but I'd say that status is a little more mysterious than that... fine art operates in a certain way that's hard to define exactly
>>65744084
I think weezer fits best.
>>65744136
cringe
>>65747225
julee cruise obviously
>>65742572
David Sylvian
>>65744136
reddit: the image
>>65747086
Spot on
>>65747225
David Lynch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBBMUmO5e60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Tz8s-NQO0
>>65743006
>>65744214
Radiohead is obviously pic related
>>65747249
The velvet underground
>>65750498
Popol Vuh
>>65749864
The Residents
>>65744136
Weezer
>>65747168
The magnetic fields
>>65742572
Luigi Nono
>>65742649
Ac Dc
>>65743006
Led Zeppelin
>>65743469
The Beatles
>>65744104
Red Krayola
>>65744136
that would be awful
>>65744891
Natural Snow Buildings
>>65747086
vintage sounding indie band
>>65747168
Comus
>>65747225
AFX
>>65747249
Dean Blunt
>>65747516
FKA twigs
>>65748787
Kaija Saariaho
>>65749864
Caroliner
>>65749959
Nicole Dollanganger
>>65749990
Arca
>>65750643
Arnold Schonberg
>>65747225
the residents
>>65743469
Autechre. They were both way ahead of their time. Made shit people didn't understand until subsequent listens/watches
>>65747054
Tom Waits
>>65747225
Autechre
>>65752669
It literally says via 9gag.com
>>65752765
Sigur Ros
>>65752776
NIN is way more obvious
>>65750896
Geogerigege
>>65750643
Ligeti
>>65750498
The Pop Group
>>65750275
Steve Reich
>>65749864
2009-2013 era Flaming Lips
>>65753758
Clint Eastwood
>>65744052
Devin Townsend
>>65744891
John Carpenter duh
>>65742649
>not linkin park
>>65754321
Korn
>>65754437
Meghan Trainor
>>65754489
Meghan trainer is awful, but still too good for her
What would Alfred Hitchcock's equivalent be?
>>65754437
A contestant on American Idol who does quirky covers of top 40 songs
>>65754379
Do Korn have a real good song?
>>65754601
Nick Cave.
>>65754601
Brahms, mixed with a dash of Aphex Twin
>>65753758
enniomorriconelel
>>65754619
I wouldn't say Blind was REAL good, but I think it deserves a modicum of praise.
So which Boll film do do you think is real good?
>>65754698
Rampage. Not quite Falling Down level, but amazing in many parts. The only shakycam film I ever liked, mostly because the way the camera moves is ugly and almost directionless which adds to the feeling of unease.
I think Boll would be at least a decent director if he wasn't in for the tax deduction shekels or if he gave a shit.
>>65754735
Yeah, I'd say Rampage was pretty decent -- albeit a very irresponsible film to make. Which I know sounds extremely square and conservative, but it's literally the only film which I actually felt crossed the line, given our current state of affairs.
But that's Boll for you -- just a cheap provocateur
>>65750643
K. Stockhausen
>>65742649
Linkin Park
>>65742775
Radiohead
>>65743006
King Crimson
>>65743390
Weezer
>>65743469
Pink Floyd is correct
>>65744052
Coil
>>65744136
Steven Wilson
>>65747054
Early Jarmusch: no-wave era Sonic Youth
Jarmusch after Down By Law: Tom Waits
>>65747086
Neutral Milk Hotel
>>65747168
Xiu Xiu
>>65747225
bohren & der club of gore
>>65747249
Yes
>>65747257
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
>>65747358
correct
>>65747516
some pretentious shit. I'd say Tool.
>>65749959
early Korn
>>65750275
Dream Theater
>>65750498
Popol Vuh
>>65750643
Stockhausen
>>65750896
Melt Banana
>>65752776
NIN
>>65754886
Olivier Messiaen... but only his organ music
>>65747225
david lynch himself, duh
>>65755296
Yeah, but his films are good
>>65754886
Swans
>>65754946
Never heard of him.
>>65742572
J. S. Bach
>>65742775
PTA is Radiohead. Jonny does his soundtracks and PTA even directed their latest music vid
Paul McCartney
>Everyone knows him and enjoys his work
>Long career with a slight dip in quality towards the end except for a great return to form (Chaos and Creation for Macca, Lincoln for Spielberg)
>One of the most successful artists in their genre commercially and critically
>>65756091
Animal Collective
>>65756011
foo fighters
>>65756091
grimes
Werner Herzog
>>65747257
Rodrigo y Gabriela
>>65747109
>Godfrey Ho
The Shaggs or Complete
>>65756091
Ryuichi Sakamoto
![227166765929[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5MHBsI7.jpg "227166765929[1].jpg")
>>65756650
The Shaggs
>>65755527
Bresson is Bach
>inb4 Velvet Underground With or Without Nico
>>65758122
Lou Reed
:)
Bump
>>65743390
Nas (started great is now shit)
>>65743469
Pink floyd
>>65747086
Vampire weekend or neutral milk hotel
>>65756011
Coldplay
>tries to be artsy but is shit
>>65749990
Throbbing Gristle
>>65743349
>mentions Ozu, Kiarostami and Tarr as being the ultimate filmmakers
>quotes Chris Marker
>thinks he has an authoritative opinion
You remind of the pretentious faux intellectual "film buffs" I knew in college
>>65758736
That one Japanese Zeuhl band with the super obnoxious name
![83252[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5q8jHwq.jpg "83252[1].jpg")
Aaron Dilloway?? No idea
>>65742649
Michael Bay isn't really a director as much as he is a business man.
So basically, Gene Simmons
>>65759520
Charlemagne Palestine
Lostprophets
>>65759480
the who
>>65742572
debussy
>>65759621
boards of canada
>>65744326
John Ford is the Beethoven of cinema in my opinion.. I was happy to once read that Satyajit Ray agrees with me - "A hallmark is never easy to describe, but the nearest description of Ford's would be a combination of strength and simplicity. The nearest equivalent I can think of is a musical one: middle-period Beethoven."
beck maybe?
>>65742572
He's pointing at us...
>>65749959
depressive black metal like silencer
>>65759707
I think either Kubrick or Ford would be an acceptable equivalent to Beethoven.
Who's Bach?
>>65743349
>film is le dead guys
>Ozu, Kiarostami, Tarr took cinema as far as it could go
>Chris Marker is a french new wave director
>mfw
>>65758122
Anyone with minimal talent who knows how to market themselves. Also, a barely functional IQ would be a bonus
>>65756472
>le edgy nihilist man
Giles Corey
What would be Kenneth Anger?
My guess would be Death In June.
>>65760155
>who's Bach
That would be a tough one, because film is still a relatively young medium. And there isn't anyone who essentially invented the language of film as we know it today, the way Bach did with music.
>inb4 Handel
That said, I think pic-related would be the closest thing I could think of. However, I don't think he'd exactly be deserving of the comparison.
>>65760347
Antony. And not because he's gay/trans/whateverthefuck, but he's the first one that came to mind.
His music is whimsical and a bit afftected. And his greater influence is minimal.
>>65760374
Closest comparison I can think of would be Griffith, but then again he didn't really "invent" anything at all.
>>65760460
Yeah, I can understand why someone would compare the two.
The fact is, there isn't a "Bach of film"
>>65750556
i second rush
>>65753758
the heavy
