i like it more than far side virtual desu

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I'm waiting for an Amazon Dash Button to come out so I can order multiple copies of the album on the fly along with my Starbucks, joint medicine, and laxatives

One of the few Ferraro releases that immediately goes down easy.

It's actually really good and I'm someone who doesn't ''get'' Ferraro.

>>65691871
what did you mean by this?

>>65691890
what did you mean by this?

>>65691941
Some Ferraro releases take more work to click, this is a quick clicker.

>>65691803
Me too, but I miss some of the playfulness of FSV. This record sounds bleaker.

I'll wait for tryhard philsophical hipster to share his opinion than parrot it as my own thank you very much

bland OPN/Holly Herndon ripoof, 5/10

Listened to the first five tracks before stopping. I couldn't shake the feeling that Ferraro is pandering to fans of FSV. Actually kind of insulted and, frankly, anyone who likes this meme music should ask themselves why. It's simply not good. The novelty is there but if that's all you're listening to it for, you're life is a fucking meme.

>>65692670

>I couldn't shake the feeling that Ferraro is pandering to fans of his own music

huh

>>65692603
Holly Herndon fucking sucks. Her album last year was easily the biggest waste of my time.

>>65692696

it was in my top 3 for the year but that's your opinion I guess

I just like the title

>>65691761
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In its place we will address harm and conflict in our communities through community based solutions.

>>65692691
He's much much much more capable than what he showed on FSV. That's just his most pleb-friendly accessible record. This is a sell out record to the casual Ferraroheads. The lo-fi works are the real genius.

>>65692691
Not everything he does sounds like FSV. HS3 is its shitty sequel.

>>65692603
>ripoff

uh

>>65692705
I listened to 543 albums last year. Platform was one of the least enjoyable listens. Probably bottom 10.

>>65692719
His lofi works is just a few notes repeated for an hour and ten minutes recorded on cassette. At least he tries with the hifi stuff

>>65692719
>The lo-fi works are the real genius.

no, no, just no. and I've listened to almost all of them.

Once again, the concept is neat but the actual music is underwhelming

>>65692770
>>65692756
Like I said, the hifi stuff is for the casual Ferraroheads. The serious listeners can appreciate what he's doing with his old works. Think New York No-Wave scene of the 80s but for a new generation of free thinkers.

>>65692737
>543 albums

bahahahaha

>>65692801
Doing it again this year. Currently at 209.

>>65692800
Its still trash and tryhard af no matter how you look at it

A O T Y
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>>65692801

not him but I listened to almost 1500 albums last year

and that's not including any classical

>>65692873
Wow, how did you accomplish that? Had you heard any of them before, like counting relistens, or do you mean 1500 "fresh to your ears" albums?

You should feel accomplished. That's quite a feat.

>>65692914

most of them were new

I don't relisten to albums a lot

I don't know why

I always want something new

>>65692737
>>65692830
You don't like music.

>>65692937
Huh, a little different than how I listened. If I liked an album, I would give it at least one more listen.

I have a revisit playlist which occasionally pull albums from. You could try that.

I'm guessing you used streaming mostly?

>>65692981
I love music. A hell of a lot more than people do on here. I've yet to find someone with whom I can't share a common musical interest with, nor someone who has more varied taste than me in real life.

So no, I'm positive I love music more than you.

>>65693008

yeah I'd say most of it was streaming but I do a lot of downloading/torrenting too. I get a lot of stuff from sharethreads here.

>>65693064
Nice. I wrote most of the current copypasta for the sharethreads last year. It's been changed around a bit since then.

Everything I listen to I download so that I always have a copy of it to play whenever.

>>65693096

people dis this board a lot but damn you can find some really cool stuff in those sharethreads that you don't really hear about much anywhere else. probably the best thing about /mu/

can someone tell me about the concept of this guys music? is this album supposed to be a commentary on the degeneracy of convenient online shopping?

>>65693164
go play simcity 3000 high on adderall and you'll get it

Where can I get the album

>>65693155
I definitely agree. Original reason why I frequent this place to begin with. The archive (rbt) is especially useful as well. It's cool to run into other sharethread users in random threads. Even more cool to find someone who listens to a fuckton of music.

>>65693180
where to ge tadreal?

>>65693198
jjamesferraro.bandcamp.com

>>65693198
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=james+ferraro+human+story+3

>>65693237
Thanks senpai

>>65693038
>spends more time listening to music than making music
You don't love music.

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>>65693295

>le you have to make music to love music

fuck off

Is Halloween getting to sexy for kids?

is this boxman by smosh?

>>65693295
Ahh, this one. I came to the realization before I went to college that anything I could create would not be better than what I could find to listen to. As good as my craft may be, there was still a lot more out there that was frankly more enjoyable to listen to.

When you get old enough, you'll come to that realization to. That your efforts are better spent somewhere else. Leave the music-making to the true virtuosos while you yourself become a functional cog in the machine.

I'll better the world in other ways. Producing music is mostly a selfish endeavor anyways.

>>65693365
I think so

I'm enjoying it and I hate FSV

make of that what you will

>>65693398
>thinking technical virtuosity beats constant practice
>thinking anyone has a duty to make music
>thinking you can only devote yourself to music and not have it as a hobby while producing actual good through other means
>ever thinking music was anything other than pure hedonism
You should just admit you didn't have the dedication to practice until you could make decent music instead of telling yourself that your laziness and failure was an ethical choice.

>>65693501
Sure, I'll admit that. I would rather focus on my education than fiddle around, hoping to make something great. I just didn't have the talent, and I would rather have a successful career. No shame in that.

>>65693501
>thinking constant practice is necessary to make great pieces of music
shiggy

>>65693501
I will add that I plan on teaching myself bass, making a home studio, buying a bunch of keyboards and synthesizers, and spending most of my adult years fiddling. Real life takes priority at the moment, until I become financially independent, which will only be another year.

Is it odd that I consider this genuinely classical music, but laugh whenever others like Nils Frahm are given the label? It's not even to do with the instruments being used (though the deliberate use of an orchestra is notable). I just feel in the compositional approach by Ferraro here a lot more similarity with the tradition of a composer like Bruckner or a modern composer like Glass than I do in crappy ambient works.

The music itself I really enjoy. It's similar to the MIDItronica of Far Side Virtual, but with a more "serious" approach towards harmony and form. Perhaps even a better work in terms of the raw notes on the "page." The problem I have with it then is the layer of pretension artists like Ferraro and Dean Blunt bring to their projects. They always claim they're "about something" but never clarify what that something is. TinyMixTapes has interesting, pretentious theories of their own, but a composer who refuses to explain their compositions is a hack.

There is an implication, in the Bandcamp page, that the album is asking where innovation yet lies in music following the styles displayed such as postminimalism, neoclassicism, a degree of sonorism in some noisy strings, and some distinct choir flashes reminiscent of an OPN track like Inside World. But there's still no concrete answers, and so I have no concrete thoughts on this record. It's a competently executed piece of postmodern waste that I love to listen to.

>>65693501
I'm gonna go get in the hot tub now but it was nice chatting with you. Hey, if you drop the cynicism and superiority complex, you just might become a decent human being.

>>65693525
Is this b8
Or are you just a teenager

Starbucks

>>65693657
Practice doesn't make perfect. That's just a meme to make people feel better about themselves. You're either talented at making music or you're not, practicing might make you marginally better but you'll never reach the heights of someone who has the gift. ''Practice makes perfect'' is a useless platitude that is the same as telling someone to ''just be yourself'' in order to attract a girl.

>>65693746
Well obviously it doesn't work if you legiimately don't have much musically going for you to begin with
But you can't say that you have to consistently practice to get good

>DOO DEE DUH DOO DUH DEE DAH DEE DUH DOO DAH
what did he mean by this?

>>65694220
Self-aware TTS entity

>>65693569
t. boldfaure

what's your rating anyway?

>>65695916
I can't rate it.
The music is like 4.0.
The everything else makes me want to rate it a 3.0 or 2.5.
But that would be unfair.

>>65695947
>The everything else makes me want to rate it a 3.0 or 2.5
This is one of James' most sincere, down-to-earth releases, though. It's a rumination on modern life or as himself put it "a still life of sorts", very akin to FSV, but with way better musical content imo. It's a very simple concept and not pretentious at all, I think.

>>65696062
But how does the music reinforce this? If it was just an album of absolute music and nothing more it would be all the better and I would praise it.

No other album this year can even compete with this

>>65696203
Not our fault that you don't listen to a lot of music.

>>65696215
>>65696203

>>65696077
I think it captures a very specific, modern mood that is punctuated by the TTS tone poetry. One could say that these words are an attempt to emulate augmented reality (I find listening to this record very similar to surfing the internet or watching TV), a stream of information and short aphorisms tailored for the ADHD-paced mind of a consumer; it builds an impression of our zeitgeist. The music is the expressive side of the poem, the inner life of the individual contained within ethos. It's contemplative, serene, even playful at times, but with a latent pool of strees and, hmm, paranoia(?). This is how I feel about, however I concede that it's very up to interpretation

>>65696062
>sincere
Impossible for you to know that and likely not true.

>>65696232
This is what I'm talking about in my review though, this analysis comes from little to fucking nothing provided by the artist/composer. Ferraro on FSV and NYCH was clear enough with the title and contained aesthetics of the tracks that the concept was basically visible to everyone. FSV is about muzak-ification. NYCH is a very different atmospheric album.

What the fuck is this album "about?" If nothing, that's fucking fine. Just leave the title, leave the image, cut out all the vocal shit, and let the music speak.

>>65696232
>>65696288
I sound angry but it's just frustrating because I want to like the album.

The haters will be changing their tune once this gets a 5/5 on TMT.

>>65696203
this. no one else is making music this forward thinking or sonically imaginative.

>>65696288
>a musing on hyper individualism and the marketability of neotenous plastics
>We’ve seen the invention of the latte, yoga, cloud computing, we've seen our selves in a plethora of unnatural places and commercial simulacra, crisis and human achievement in perpetual twilight. where will the 21st century human story go next?

This is from his bandcamp. I think it's another still life similar to FSV, but way less about the zeitgeist and more about the inner life of an individual contained within this zeitgeist.

Marcel is probably going to be all over this one.

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>>65696381
I read that (even remarked as such in my review) but that still isn't communicated in the music.

>>65696384
well meme'ed friend

>>65696400
kys

>>65696400
Am I wrong?

>>65696444
so fr*ckin ebin xd

>>65696308
But...it sounds like you do like it? You said yourself that the music is a 4/5. I mean, I understand having reservations about the lack of cogency or w/e in the concept but I don't think that should take away from it's sonic achievements.

>>65696512
I like the compositions, yes.

>>65696288
I don't see why it has to be about anything other than the extra-musical ideas he's been playing with since FSV. Every release since FSV has been exploring different manifestations of the situation as shaped by simulacra, mass media, and consumer culture. NYC Hell and Skid Row are exploring geographical manifestations of hyperreality, Sushi and FSV cultural manifestations, etc. Ferraro is one of the least pretentious artists working with these ideas because he's not trying to do anything other than capture their manifestations. He's not trying to ascribe meaning to them, critique them, or even necessarily reject them. If you're looking for an actual commentary, you're looking too far, and you'll inevitably be frustrated when you can't find anything.

I don't see this album as an exception, and you can really understand what extra-musical ideas its exploring by just looking at the track names and album cover. Individualism, Market Collapse, Immanent Cloud, Plastic Ocean. Everything he's chewing on should be immediately obvious because its a very direct presentation of the state of lived experience under encroaching globalization and plastique hyperreality. Its getting into your Google smart car to head to Whole Foods while Facetiming with investors for your tech startup on your iPad and accidentally spilling your $30 energy-aligned Smart water on your vintage eco-friendly pants.

That being said, I'm not quite sure how I would rate it myself. I was expecting something far more liturgical based on the teaser and intro track, but despite the disappointment that it wasn't, I still feel like its far more interesting in terms of composition, and the use of timbres is less ham-handed than FSV. He's played around with the idea of soundtracking fictional Pixar films before, but this feels like the first successful attempt at it, even if that wasn't what he intended

>>65696384
I don't see the appeal of this. It just seems totally vapid in terms of experimentation and in concept.

>>65696937
I think you got it spot-on.

>>65697095
>I don't see the appeal of this. It just seems totally vapid in terms of experimentation and in concept.
....what? How?
>>65696937
And really for both of you, that doesn't really "nail it" because a title of a track means nothing. You have to have the music embody the concept you're working with. FSV had Windows sounds. This album does not.

>>65697153
>And really for both of you, that doesn't really "nail it" because a title of a track means nothing.
You are my new favorite trip. Album art, descriptions, and track titles don't affect how the music sounds.

>>65697239
>>65697153
I never claimed that the track titles represent how it sounds. If you'll notice, I didn't even talk about the music itself until the last paragraph. I was merely answering your question on what the album is "about", and the track titles very blatantly show what its about

>>65697417
>I never claimed that the track titles represent how it sounds.
See:
>>65696937
>I don't see this album as an exception, and you can really understand what extra-musical ideas its exploring by just looking at the track names and album cover.

>>65697430
See:
>extra-musical
Either you don't understand what extra-musical means, or you believe there can be no extra-musical ideas that influence music

>>65697473
Explain how the extra-musical ideas in the track titles are explored in the compositions.

That's what I'm asking you.

aoty

>>65697153
>....what? How?
It just reads as them having a laugh noodling around with their software. i don't see any thought or inspiration behind it.

>>65697504
I never claimed they were. This is the 3rd time you've changed your question, but I'll still answer it. Actually utilizing extra-musical ideas through music is one of the markings of a great artist, and its the essential goal of experimental music, otherwise its format as music isn't valid. All I can speak on of Ferraro's success in representing extra-musical ideas through music is his use of timbres, which are evocative of royalty free music frequently used in technology and start up ads, that might be put into a forced overenthusiastic PowerPoint, or the glossy soundtrack of a Pixar film. In the interest of creating a still life of lived experience in hyperreality, in which you're constantly and unwillingly exposed to these situations, he succeeds at that. But what you're asking me is entirely subjective, and I stated in my first post that I'm not quite sure what I would rate it yet

>>65697740
>It just reads as them having a laugh noodling around with their software.
Then I guess you don't know much avantgarde music.
>>65697823
I've never changed my question, I've continually pointed out to you that the music does not reflect the titles. A MIDI orchestra does not reflect them.
I'm very well aware of how he's using presets, but here there is no reflection of title -> music.
If you have anything substantive to offer I'm all ears.

>>65697881
>I've never changed my question
1. What the fuck is this album "about?"
2. a title of a track means nothing
3. Explain how the extra-musical ideas in the track titles are explored in the compositions.

I can't tell if you're just bad at asking questions or if you're arguing for the sake of arguing. I never once made the claim that "music [reflects] the titles". You asked a purely extra-musical question (What the fuck is this album "about?") which I appropriately answered in extra-musical terms. Then you change the question and claim my answer isn't sufficient to answer your new question. I never once claimed that titles and the actual music have anything in common, and I've agreed this entire time that they don't.

This all began with you not understanding what "extra-musical" means, and any discussion after that has been merely arguing semantics

>>65693569
>a composer who refuses to explain their compositions is a hack.
Why would you say that? This is not a standard practice in any art medium.

Serious artists (a category I'd put Ferraro into) often refrain from explaining their art as they like multiple interpretations to rise up.

>>65698121
I think the issue is that you don't understand anything about analyzing musical content, thus you were flustered when I asked you to do so.

God this album is fucking awful.

It sounds like some shitty film score but to the real world expect with some muzac and vaporwave "muh capitalism thrown in". I get that's what he was going for but holy shit, do people actually enjoy this?

>>65698180
>This is not a standard practice in any art medium
Then I guess you know nothing about music history and are straight talking out your ass.

>>65698248
Alright, I get your shtick now. CLT and Friendo did it better though

>>65698248
lol, are you trolling? they used your own quotes to point out where you changed the question and moved the goal post. i don't think you understand how discourse works.

>>65698345
It's not a schtick. I actually just went through the entire chain to the beginning of our convo. I never once changed my question.
If you can't provide a link between titles and music then we're done here.

>>65698363
Shhhhh kid, adults are talking.

>>65698426
You literally have no idea what you're talking about

>>65698363
he is a troll
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2u0nvo/uboldfaure_starts_drama_with_the_elegance_of_an/

>>65698447
Go on, explain the link.

>>65698483
You know, obsessions over online personalities are really pathetic
Still in high school?

>>65692756
wow haha, It's like you don't actually listen to the albums you criticize. Yeah they repeat, but it's that subtle dynamic repetition which I crave.

>>65698519
lel its the third thing that comes up when you search your name

not a good troll

>>65698519
You're just a troll who knows nothing about music yet you go around posturing as if you do.

boldfaure btfo

bet they'll drop trip

>>65698401
The titles are there to enhance the (yes Im gonna say it) aesthetic of the music / album. We live in an era where music is much more than simply "what you hear." Visual art, and even the titles all serve to enhance the "what you hear" not be a direct representation of it.

>>65696288
>gut this album of all its soul, and then it would be good
omg you fucking pleb trash scum

Is Clear a good starting point for his work?

>>65697704
This

Album of the Millennium tbqhwyf

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>>65698717

>tfw 107.7 XFM Radio Mars will never be real
how do you lads cope?

>>65699534
Thanks

>>65699693
by permanently relistening to his records, of course

liked fsv more

>>65693372
oh shit dude

lads should I order adderall from Pakistan?

I feel like this is a good thread to ask in.

>>65697504
Well those samples are really short giving the album an ADHD feeling, and the samples used sound very clean and pristine like the consumer-friendly society James is trying to get across. The dissonance in the compositions convey the idea of being overwhelmed by all this change and capitalism

Was Human Story 1 FSV, bros?

>>65701627
you lived human story 1

what is yoozy_cutie's problem?

>>65701686
what do you mean?

>>65701787
he's 5-starred a billion james ferraro releases

>>65692603
yep

>>65701639
woah...

>>65693624
get off this site

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>>65701814
I'm guessing he really really likes him