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/prod/ -> music production general

>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
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There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.

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https://clyp.it/m21syl5u
learning how to sample, thoughts?
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>>65635070
That synth, I always thought lunga was late 70s early 80s t b h.
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what is the cheapest interface for guitar i can buy?
i bought a new pc and for some reason my guitar rig now only feedbacks and ive been told an interface is going to fix this problem
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>>65635194
I know clyp is quiet but export it louder
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I have to DJ at my sisters prom in 4 days.
I have never really DJed at a party before.
Downloaded a ton of music, mostly charts, some trap, dance, house and stuff like that. I haven't heard most of the songs, i have no cue points and im shit at doing transitions between different genres/bpm without syncing, as im not even really a DJ.
How fucked am i?
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>>65636219
Get Ableton Live, drag the songs into it, it'll automatically sync them for you. Change the tempo a bit to make it sound just right. Use crossfades for transitions (lookup how to do it in Ableton)
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>>65636497
I actually have an Ableton Push, that i currently use with Traktor with a premade mapping.
Might not be a bad idea, but wouldn't it just sound bad if a 100bpm song is like synced to 120bpm?
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>>65636580
>but wouldn't it just sound bad if a 100bpm song is like synced to 120bpm?
That depends entirely on the song.
Anyway, as I said, just change the tempo over time. Ableton Live is really flexible so it'll keep the song in sync with the new tempo.
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How do you synthesize a metallic sounding snare?
Like Sophie in this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyX-PRqzV78

Or a kick that sounds like an acoustic one?
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>>65636580

Well the general idea is to choose songs that are roughly the same tempo. Then it doesn't sound too bad to timestretch them, and you can gradually migrate the tempo around if you want.

For instance, say your first song is 120 bpm. You might find a song that is 110 bpm to mix with it. Maybe you timestretch the 110 bpm song up to 120. once you've mixed into the 110 bpm song, you gradually lower it back down to it's original speed. Then you have a 100 bpm song that you've timestretched to 110 bpm, and you do the same thing.

Also you can kind of split the difference, so you can timestretch a 120 bpm song down to 115 and stretch a 110 bpm song up to 115.

Typically if you have two songs being mixed together, you only want to have the bass from one song playing at a time, so use some sharp eq to cut the bass on one.
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>>65636641
filter resonance
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>>65635906
>my guitar rig now only feedbacks and ive been told an interface is going to fix this problem
you what? what's your setup now/why can't you just turn down the gain?

>>65636641
fm synthesis buddy
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electronic / ambient / etc. live shows

have any of you done them?

how? explain in as much detail as you'd like - I'd really love to read your experiences if you have any

I'm looking for ideas for a Curacy live. unfortunately I have to go to bed so I can't stay here and discuss with you but I'll check the thread or archive in the morning.
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https://clyp.it/en0ekhou

So I made this loop today, but I don't know anything about song structure really, anyone got some tips or youtube links for song structure?
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>>65635070
>Not posting the recently updated pastebin link
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>>65638374
Here's the link
http://pastebin.com/jew3GPCZ
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>>65638271
>https://clyp.it/en0ekhou
sounds decent, what'd you use?

i mean there's obvious verse chorus verse chorus middle eight chorus etc

really you should just keep a lookout for what the structure is like in the music you listen to and apply those ideas to your own songs man.
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>>65638177
I don't know much about such live shows but I guess this might help your inspiration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQUkJagczVs
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>>65638400
>http://pastebin.com/jew3GPCZ
>jew
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>>65638456
fits quiet well since 90% of the links lead to pirated software/sounds/books

>>65636641
that snare is fucked up mang
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Virus TI or Novation Supernova?

for pads/ambient stuff
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>>65638550
you what

virus every time bro
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>>65635194
I think if you made the volume of the sample louder, to match the volume of the beat, it'd be good.
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>>65636580
in ableton session view if you name the scene the bpm of the track it will automatically switch to that bpm when you launch the scene
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how do I get my vocals to sit higher in the mix?
when I listen to any kind of popular music the vocals always sit very high in the mix
something like this
https://youtu.be/uxpDa-c-4Mc?t=60
the vocals sound so crisp and nice

https://clyp.it/2z540j0l
the vocal cut comes in at 0:54
I've cut out everything that could be interfering with the vocals
I've EQ'd it and multiband compressed it to get the high end up
I put a stereo imager on it trying to widen it
but it still just sounds flat and lifeless
is it overcompressed?
does it just come down to the quality of the mic you're using?
would autotune help?
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>>65639882
Can you post an accapella with and without processing? It might be the source quality but I can't tell in the recording. That drake track has reverb and echo on the vocal btw, but it's heavily cut.
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>>65640004
thanks for the quick response
here's the acapella
unprocessed first then processed
https://clyp.it/yo342ngu
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>>65639882
Sounds good to me, I get it, it's not ''perfect'', but here are some tips on vocal mixing:

>cut down everything below 90hz
>use panned background delay fx on your vocals
>use two tracks in your daw (one panned to the left another to the right)
>since you can't edit out bad sound a good mic/recording enviroment is key to a great recording

also pic related might help you
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>>65640122
Imo it's partially the recording/partially the processing. Try running a high pass over the reverb.

I can't find the video but there is this video where the dude is mixing vocals and he creates a second track of the vocal then adds a bunch of harmonic exciters to it and slightly mixes it in with the original.
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>>65640283
holy shit that sheet is pure gold thanks a bunch
and i'll try a few of those tips too

>>65640122
this is the acapella i used processed and unprocessed

could you give me your opinion on what I did with it? am I on the right track? I'm really new to mixing vocals
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>>65640302
This was the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDxKq26NYXY
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>>65640302
alright the reverb is highpassed at 1.05 khz
and i'll give a shot to the harmonic exciter idea
is there anything besides just the reverb that i should change about the processing?
like less compression or something?
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>>65640472
only use as much compression as you need, like if you really got some short, loud spots in your track.

also I heard about producers using deessers on vocals but I don't know anything about this. Might wanna check this out.
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>>65640535
>>65640472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHZIkEEbTU

check this out! I'm gonna look into it too now
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>>65640367
yo this exciter trick is amazing
i gotta get to class but i'll have something to post by probably like 7 o'clock ast if you're still around
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>>65640472
>>65640559
and i'll check this out when i get home too
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I know you guys probably get this question a lot, but what kind of money should I expect to drop if I wanna get into producing music as a hobby? I want a full box set up, so can you maybe rec some affordable samplers and stuff?

I've looked into what equipment does so I do have some semblance of an idea, but I'm not entirely sure how to make what I want to make. I've fucked around in Audacity before but I have no clue how to actually compose a beat in a real DAW.

I guess what I want to make is sample-heavy chillwave-esque stuff.
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>>65641273
>what kind of money should I expect to drop if I wanna get into producing music as a hobby?
$0

Torrent a DAW and get to work. You dont need anything more.
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>>65641273
>>65641381
Nigga... you want proper monitoring, and maybe a midi keyboard.

Studio Headphone + midi keyboard = $120 to $350
Monitors + midi keyboard + amp = from $600 (maybe cheaper if you find great deals or what)

I guess you got a computer or a laptop, it should have got proper specs if you really want to make cool music and want producing to be fun. so keep that in mind.

software/sound-wise, this nigga is right >>65641381
Just get everything from the internet as long as you dont make plenty of money, i think its okay. (not legal tho, not sure if they v& anyone for it)

music production is a really unique hobby mang, so you will need to learn a lot, and I mean A LOT if you want to blow out quality stufff.... anyways good luck.
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I need a midi controller lads

>budget: around 2 hunna
>dgaf about weighted or semi or w/e keys
>pads would be nice, knobs too
>49 keys max
>PLANNING ON GIGGING W/ IT SO GOOD BUILT/QUALITY IS A MUST

hit me
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>>65636219
do prom dj's even do any of those things? dont schools usually just go for the "play a bunch of songs and do literally nothing else" kind of dj?
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https://clyp.it/ibtyyhrb
mantronix meets gregorian chanting meets john carpenter, i suppose.
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I made a thread about this, but I'll ask it here. I'm looking for a mixer for practicing with my band, that we can all plug into, but has multiple outputs so we can each come out of our own separate amp
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https://clyp.it/qveimxm0
https://clyp.it/lrhwgfaq
some of the piano and vocal bits on fi110 came out a bit fucky, but don't let me bias your judgement, just tell me what you hear.
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>>65639882
Parallel compression is your friend, Google it. A slight chorus effect on the aux you're using for it can help as well, depending on the vocal.
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>>65641910
If its just for practice just use your amps and find something cheap your vocalist can plug into.
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>>65637971
Guitar-adapter-pc-guitar rig
Ive tried to change everything, as soon as guitar rig starts it only feedbacks the guitar doesnt make a sound even if i play
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does anyone have any easy on the eyes ableton skins?
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https://clyp.it/ydi2q0ns

does this sound okay? There's a second part to it that I'm not sure if I should keep in?
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>>65643742
what do you mean?
in the second part the drums are a bit too loud in my opinion, they don't really fit with the other stuff. Try balancing the volumes out.

also the whole thing (master) could use some reverb just too fill the spectrum a little bit. and try to compress the whole thing by -2 db or so
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>>65638431
thanks man, great advice.

I use Mixcraft 7 Pro Studio and its built in fx/piano and journeys (which is included in MC7) for the dulcimer kind of sound + sylenth 1 for the square bass

the drum kit i used is microdose vol 1 by medasin I actually bought it, it's like 20$ and worth every penny, got great sounds
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https://clyp.it/b1z0rcsc

Any feedback is greatly appreciated, things i've already noted: Bass sits rather low at 100-250khz, final product is rather quiet ( i kept the tracks as close to -6db as i could and let them get slightly higher at times before bouncing them into a stereo file, not sure if my mastering process could improve this. Drums are 1 take 1 track from a paltry yamaha dd-20c (didnt think id ever release this), 1 take synth on dx7, casio sk1 piano fills are made up of my own samples. Sorry for the abundance of detail. Thanks again
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first time singing in a track, how does everything sound? I think the bass might be thin, and the little electric piano at the bottom of the mix might need more umph

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mng2y3nxE0
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>>65644465
Love the DX in there, sounds so smooth
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>>65644465
>https://clyp.it/en0ekhou
What? I don't understand your workflow. what do you want to know? My honest opinion this sounds like some 1990 elevator music. The drums lack energy... I get the Idea, and it's cool, if that was your intention then its totally fine, bro.

>>65644913
again the drums lack energy. you should use a little bit of auto tune on your vocal tho. panning sounds good to me.
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>>>/g/55067268
technical advice
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>>65645181
a tad old school, used to just using tape/digital multitrackers, i played the bass and synths in takes overdubbing on top just like all recording practices, yeah i suppose it was semi going for a retro/ambient sound but hopefully it would make for a pleasant elevator ride, was really only looking for idea on how to equalize it all better or possibly master it better, but you're definitely right on the drums, if i had the option to have separate snare hats etc on it i could probably alleviate it as opposed to just a single drum machine take. Thanks for the input

>>65645127
thanks man
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Do you guys put a compressor on your mix-buss? Not for peak reduction, more for "glueing" the track together.
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>>65645570
i'm no expert, but i imagine monitoring your mix with a compressor on the output would be detrimental to your ability to accurately mix, I'd wait for the actual mastering portion for that
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How to get dat dank sidechaining like knxwledge? I use logic btw
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>>65645570

Unless you

>have an expensive compressor
>know what the fuck you're doing
>the track has immaculate mixing

applying your lolrhinger compressor on the entire mix is a retarded idea in 90% of cases

leave the "mastering" to the old audio engineer gearslutz farts / nerds. your average bedroom studio is absolutely ill suited to do such things
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>>65645570
Not while I'm mixing. I do a touch of amateur mastering before putting anything on SoundCloud etc but that's mostly just for leveling and a tiny bit of bus eq. I will occasionally use a glue compressor but that's highly genre/song dependent.
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>>65645926
youtube vids you fuck
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New to prod. Most, if not all pastebin links are broken, wat do?
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>>65636641
You could try sample rate reduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grVa55h7J3U
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