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You guys ready? I'm goin' in dry.

>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion

Beginner information and FAQ:
>http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/wiki/index

Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>[YouTube] Not Found [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav (embed)

Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/

ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/

JACK Tutorial for Linux audio production
>http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-%E2%80%93-beginners-guide-getting-started-jack

>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8

>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd

Last thread: >>65607650
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>>65629046
while true, this is the case of most guitar forums (sans age maybe)
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So, I love Fuzz pedals, specifically Fuzz Faces, I've currently got the small Si FFM1, played with a Gibson SG and a Marshall Haze 40.

I'm looking for something that's a little more "tame" and controllable, also less harsh and nasally, would the Ge FFM2 work well? I'm mainly interested in how well it cleans-up with the volume rolled back?

FYI, I've got the stock Humbuckers on the SG, and they're almost lowered all the way down, I can get some OK clean-up if the "Fuzz" dial is lowered a bit on the FFM1, but it still sounds too harsh and nasally at times, so will the FFM2 work for the "warmer" and "more rounded" sounds?
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Hey guys, rate my new bass I just got.
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any gibsonfags here?
i only have a strat rn but the next thing on my list is a gibson sg or explorer, wanna get all white. what are your recommendations?
also best budget acoustic? and best budget cables?
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>>65629242
>best budget acoustic
seagull s6

>best budget cables?
the cheapest ones. copper wire is copper wire
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>>65629199
5 strings out of 4
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>>65629242
What's your budget on the SG? Any other colors you're considering in addition to white?
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>Post current gear
Modded ibanez rg570, fender aerodyne j bass
6505 212/fender HRD 410
Boss ge7, fulltone ocd, Mr black supermoon
>Post desired gear
6505/5150 (head), ampeg V4, engl powerball, all the overdrives, some kind of parametric eq
>How long have you been playing?
8 years
>Favorite guitars/basses?
90's mij ibanez or any other thin neck superstrat
>Favorite guitarists/bassists?
Just naming bands: converge, botch, off minor, Gaza/cult leader, eauth, pleabian grandstand
>Current/Past Projects?
Currently play guitar in a metal core/grind band (heavily influence by the afore mentioned bands) and bass in a noise rock/noise/shoegaze band
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>>65629263
i think a white body with a red pickguard would be rad! i don't really have a budget, i would definitely save up for it tho, i am rn.
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>>65629199
Never played a Sandberg. How is it. I like the body shape for some kind of ergo headless guitar
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>>65629199
ugly but probably sounds good
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Can you suggest some clean songs similar to Animals As Leaders' songs like On Impulse, David, Modern Meat, Point To Point.
Something fun to play with fingers.
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>>65629242
Explorer has much better body/neck balance than an SG, heavier guitars though. If that doesn't bother you I'd go Explorer all day.

Worth noting that Explorers still tend to come with the 500T/496R combo so make sure you like them, they're pretty hot in comparison to what a Les Paul or SG comes with.

I know you want white, but have a look at the old Gothic Explorers. Matte black paint means their resale value isn't great. A lot of guitar and can be found fairly cheap as a result.
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>>65629257
Are you a professional comedian?
>>65629300
Pretty good, I'm pleased with it so far.
>>65629303
>ugly
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
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>>65629242
SGs are VERY light, all 'round great guitars, but they're slightly neck-heavy, if you do get one though, check them in Cherry Red, best color on them in my opinion.
Stock pickups are good for all tones ranging from Blues up to Heavy Metal.

Explorers are well-balanced, heavier than SGs but lighter than LPs.
The pickups on Explorers are hotter than those on an SG, and are basically good for tones ranging from Hard Rock up to Extreme-ish Metal.
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>>65629322
>asks for comments
>gets them
>becomes upset
ok
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>>65629288
Well, according to Gibson's website, you can get the 2014 SG Standard in Alpine white, it just comes with that Mini etune shit on it, which you can remove and throw some normal tuners on there. It's got the smaller SG pickguard, not the fullsized batwing though.

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2014/SG-Standard.aspx

You could always go with one of these (pic related), Keith Richards couldn't be wrong.
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>>65629178
Anyone?
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>>65629311
i like to play a lotta punky stuff, are these guitars more suited for a metal player, (despite the shape)
like are they versatile between crunchy and clean?
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>>65629338
Speaking of assholes....
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>>65629369
shhh it's ok. you don't have to get bothered by others opinions.
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>>65629361
Crunch yeah, 500T does it well. Clean? Not so much. Even the 496R neck pup isn't great for clean unfortunately. It's not BAD, but it's nothing special.

That being said changing pickups can completely change that anyway so keep that in mind.
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>>65629021
Can anyone explain what this pic has to do with anything about guitars? Google reverse image search is giving me nothing.
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>>65629311
i had one of those for like a week cuz i trared up for it while trying to get something else. even though i personally don't love the explorer shape i kinda wish i kept it cuz it was a pretty nice playing and sounding guitar
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>>65629242
I have an 08 SG special that I've put a lot of work into and it's my go to. Main upgrade was a set of P90s in humbucker size. So I can for sure recommend a special if you want to put a little bit of work into it.
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>>65629407
it's heroin man from RHCP
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>>65629407
It's how you know the guy is making Rule Violations
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>>65629426
cry hard bitch nerd lmao
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>>65629416
slightly new, just like three years playing now never worked on a guitar, lots of googling for me in this thread lol, but yeah i'm willing.
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>>65629436
I'd recommend just bringing it to a tech to get all the work done. Good luck bruh, also recommend the Pete Townsend SG in a beautiful white with small pickguard and p90s. The best.
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>>65629462
thanks for being kind to a newcomer
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>>65629199
That anon chose a great bass, I'm happy for him
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are there any modern rock bans who use the harmonic minor scale besides muse?
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>>65629529
This is 100% correct
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I am currently using this rig to learn basic guitar techiniques. Did I fuck up trusting Squier as a starting point?
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>>65629606
Nah, you should be alright with that. You're a new player and have 2 guitars and 2 amps already?
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Hello
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>>65629647
I was convinced to buy a Squier Let's Start Playing pack and practiced on the single coils.

I was really into the idea of humbuckers, due to my interest in more Hard Rock, Nu-Metal, Metal music tastes and bought a Telecaster with humbuckers so the body didn't change too much from my former guitar.
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>>65629676
I see. Well if you dig it more power to ya. Squiers are good starter guitars. Good for modding and messing with when you get further down the rabbit hole
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>>65629199
I fucking knew it... Shouldn't have posted it here.
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I've gotten really good at octave slides on bass by accident. Is that useful?
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Would this be a good iso power supply or can I get something better
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>>65629814
Seems legit.
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looking into making some stone guitar picks for a m8
know a bit about rocks but fuck all about getteers
what is a good height to have the finished stone
i stole one of the dudes loose plastic picks because im a cunt its 0.71 and he says he likes them thicker and i have seen some stone picks online range from 1-4mm made from stone
just looking for some bros who play with stone picks to give me some advice on what they think is nice
might have to end up making a few to get my head around it
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>>65629814
It's not properly isolated, get the MXR ISO-Brick.
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>>65629975
Why?
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>>65630111
increase my lapidary skills
make a present
maybe make some cash down the road
be a robot
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>>65629975
Copy the shape of the plastic one. As for the thickness, I think it would be cool to taper it. Start at like 2.0 - 2.5 mm at the top and bring the point down to about 1 mm

t. guy who has no idea about shaping stone
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>>65630194
>>65629975
Also forgot to mention I bought a 1.5 mm agate pick to try out a while ago, and I fucking hate it. Makes everything sound way too bright. What kind of stone are you going to use?
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>>65630207
was thinking agate but im going to look at what some mates have instock for me to buy
there are lots of types of agate and im sure they could all sound different and at different sizes just want some general ideas
sucks the agate one didn't work out for you
the dude plays mostly metal but he has a soft spot for the blues if that helps
>>65630194
and yeah i stole his plastic one for a template
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>>65630281
Let us know how it goes
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How long should it take me to learn all of pic related, but not just that, play it quickly in succession. I play like 1-2 hours a day and I know them by heart but when you start lining them up and only having 1-2 seconds inbetween them I struggle and stumble over myself, I know I don't play 5-6 hours a day but I'm struggling a bit.
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>>65631201
Do you actively practice your chord switching? If so you should be able to get it down within a month or so.
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>>65631235

Ya i'm stuck here in my lesson book and videos i downloaded from online, it's a pretty comprehensive teaching course.

I struggle sometimes with going from 2nd string to 5th string or 2nd string to 5th F sharped, but I imagine if i skipped ahead without being able to play it as fast as they want me to i'd find myself behind if i keep going on.

I appreciate it, I'm learning on my own so I'd figure i ask from time to time when I get discouraged or need advice.

pic related is one of the songs i've learned recently.
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>>65631271
>>65631235

woops.
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>>65631271
If you can afford it, getting a teacher is a huge boost when you're first starting off. The book you're going through is probably good though. As for the chord switching, I'm pretty sure justinguitar taught me this one; set a timer for 1 minute, then practice switching between 2 chords, and count how many times you switch. Write it down. Try again with some other chords. Keep doing that until you're confident with your chord switching
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>>65629606
You fucked up getting two mid tier guitars and small amps instead of going for one mid range guitar and a good amp.

>>65629516
I don't know about rock, but a lot of metal bands use it.
I really like the harmonic minor scale, especially if you twist it around and use it as a major scale starting from its 3rd degree instead of going full malmsteen.
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>>65631459

I'd rather learn without one to be honest, just a bit of stubbornness, I did it with piano before, lessons and all that, helped a ton naturally with all those keys and whatnot.

I appreciate the advice though I'll definitely do that, forces you to dedicate yourself to just improvement instead of dilly dalling. Thanks m8.
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What picks do you use?
I like a 1.5mm celluloid Alice pick that has a bevel on it for pretty much everything. Mine got worn down so I took a 1.14 Tortex pick and sanded the tip to have a bevel until I get around to buying a new pick.
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>>65631645
jazz III plectrums
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>>65631645
2mm ultex jazz III, or the John petrucci jazz III, they're great for big rhythm playing.
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>>65631694
Do you have any problems with the JP jazz's being slippery? Or am I just a fountain of sweat
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>>65631503
Teachers are unnecessary. Anyways, nothing wrong with doing things the fun way.
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>>65631826
Bullshit. Getting direct feedback is incredibly valuable. You can learn from a book or a video lesson, but a teacher will be able to tell you immediately what you're doing wring and how to fix it.
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>>65631715
Nope, and I sweat a lot too.

>>65631851
I agree, most people can't see what they're doing wrong and keep doing it.
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>>65631645
Standard Jazz III. On acoustic I use the green Tortex (.88mm)
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>>65631851
Won't say it's not helpful, but it is unnecessary. Maybe some people will not bother trying to establish good habits and technique, but there's no reason you can't be critical of yourself and correct your own behavior. Some people are bad at self critique I guess, but I don't think anybody simply can't figure it out if they try.

A teacher helps but there's nothing you can't learn on your own.
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I'm buying a Gibson RD Standard Reissue Silverburst this week.
The seller is asking 1500€, which to me seems 'a bit' too much. Only 400 were made in 2007 and this is probably the only one in my country but still. I've been looking arond online and saw one sold on Reverb for 815€ in 2013 and one for 1180€ in 2014.

What do you think is a fair price for this beauty?
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>>65632269
>buying gibson
literally why
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>>65632463
Because they sound great, play well and look good.
I've been really happy with my SG (pic related) that I've had for 6 years
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haha le epic i hate gibson meme
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>>65632269
Seems well priced for my country but expensive for euros. Importing one not an option?
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Thoughts on Germanium Fuzz Face + Humbuckers?
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>>65631645
Clayton ultem.
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>>65632945
Eh, I prefer the 1,20's.
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hi gg I am looking into getting a poverty bass. I've played guitar for many years now but never owned a bass and now I want one for personal recording and practice. I want to spend as little money as possible as I'm ultrapoor. Is getting a sub $100 bass playable or just complete garbage? Know any good sub $150 basses? The most expensive ones I'm looking at are $200 squiers. But I don't want to resort to that unless cheaper basses are complete trash.
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I think I'm in love
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>>65633194
Get an SX ursa. Serious quality there. I will never replace mine, ever.
http://youtu.be/rowJWDymKb4
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>>65632596
The model is very rare, 400 made in 2007, as I said, so it's not likely one will pop up for sale anytime soon anywhere. Shipping and customs fees are expensive as well, so I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to buy the local one anyways.

I was thinking of something around 1300 euros, it's pretty usual for the site I found it on to have sellers list their guitars 200-300 euros higher than the actual value.
Expensive guitars are really hard to sell here atm, so I'm pretty sure the seller will drop the price.

The thing here is just that I absolutely need (want) to buy this guitar, even if he doesn't lower the price, I'm just trying to get a better deal than 1500€
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>>65632269
that looks awesome dude. don't listen to the derpy poorfags in these threads I've never been sorry I bought my les paul
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>>65633832
you have some birdshit on your chair
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>>65633832
faggot
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>>65631645
Carbon Max Grip Jazz III's! The best pick I've ever tried, too bad none of the retailers in my city have them, have to order them online everytime.
I used to play the regular dunlop max grip .88's

>>65633194
I have a Cort Action Junior (30" scale) that I got as a kid. Since then I moved on to play guitar, but I still play it for my home recordings. It kicks ass and the short scale is really comfy for a guitar player. They're pretty cheap, but I'm not sure if they make those anymore.

A squier jaguar bass is a good and cheap option as well.
Not 150$ cheap, but I wouldn't bother with an instrument that cheap anyways, they're pretty much complete trash.
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>>65633832
I've never heard anyone been sorry about buying a Les Paul, just heard people being sorry about selling one.
I almost ordered the 50's tribute les paul in vintage sunburst, but the RD caught my eye.
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I like the jazz III xls desu
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>>65633785
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you get a vintage RD artist for a bit more than that price?
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>>65634011
>I've never heard anyone been sorry about buying a Les Paul, just heard people being sorry about selling one.
a les paul is the perfect electric guitar if you find a good one. nobody who knows their shit will ever dispute that
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>>65633946
Same as me!
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Froosh, can you tell us more about your doxing? how it did happen my man? Is it available somewhere? Thanks chap!
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>>65633832
nice bridge pickup faggot
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Whats amazing to me is how easy songs i used to think took skill are, like the schizo part of 21 century is actually super easy.

At least thats what ive noticed after learning
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>>65634409
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%2Fgg%2F+general+froosh
your in over your head here mate
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>>65634189
Honestly it's statements like this that make me kinda doubtful. I mean, it's such a simple guitar that there's seemingly hundreds of clones right on the money. There's as much variation between les pauls between Gibson models as there is between other brands and Gibson. How is it that all these various neck profiles, etc. offered by Gibson are perfect, and other LPs "just aren't?"

I dunno, maybe I'm a cynic but I always fail to see what's special or unique about Gibson. As a classic brand they're the most widely copied brand along with fender out there. If anything they're the least unique in terms of guitars they offer of any brand. The unique or special thing that I can see comes from their history and prestige, and frankly, that doesn't do it for me.

By all means I think they can be described as perfect depending on your needs. Obviously I'm not going to say it's not perfect because it lacks some feature like a trem other guitars offer, that's ridiculous. Features are a matter or taste. But even though it's fair to call a les paul perfect, I don't think it's fair to call it better than other guitars with the same features... Importantly, ones a fraction of the price.

Maybe it's a shitty rant to have, since to some this post will amount to me trying to say, "you fucked up" to Gibson owners, but that isn't my intent. It's all subjective and I don't have any issue with someone else's purchase; I seriously doubt anybody here bought a Gibson without considering their options. But it does kinda bother me when people with Gibsons throw around the word perfect, or consider them superior instruments by anything other than the most subjective measures. They aren't.
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>>65634670
>he also was actually extremely insightful and helped everyone, answering questions for newfags and such. he sort of grew out of the troll-everyone thing after a few months and just started helping everyone.
>he was on 4chan in the first place is that he was waiting for uni to start and ended up going into nuclear engineering or something
> he got under one of the tripfags skin so hard that he got him(Ace for anyone that remembers) to go out and try a mesa boogie that was like four hours away just because froosh kept shitting on him for saying he wanted an amp that he never even tried. that tripfag then ended up buying an amp that froosh explicitly told him to not buy and it ended up having problems so much that he couldn't even return it, and then made hundreds of excuses to why froosh still wasn't right and this and that

That sounds cool, I respect him.
Needless to say, the current troll seems like a glib facsimile.
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Pffft
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>>65634806
> Blender
> Ibenhad
> Yamawho
> Notone
> N0name
top bantz
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>>65631645
Anyone use those fender confetti ones? How do you fuck up a pick that badly
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>>65634761
The current troll is a bitter idiot. I suspect him of being horribly obese, living at his mother's house where he gets exposed to the sounds of her fucking random strangers. He lives mostly on frozen chicken nuggets, which is why he projects that onto every troll post he makes. He most likely listens to synth-pop written by Japanese men played by Japanese girls. He doesn't actually own any instruments, as his father took them to pawn for drug money when he bailed on him and his mother. I'd feel sorry for the poor guy, but it's more disappointing that people like that are alive.
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>>65635062
tok pek
Most likely he'll laugh your post off. Unless he is a bitter faget and then will get buttdevastated.
I guess we'll see what quality of troll we've got. I have some hope.
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>>65634938
>How do you fuck up a pick that badly
what do you mean?
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>>65629021
Ok I've asked this before but didn't get a satisfactory answer.

I have fret buzz on frets past the 12th or so but none of it actually comes through my amp. I only hear it when unplugged.

Is this normal? Should I care? Am I losing sustain?
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>>65635196
Play with it for like an hour, there's pick dust all over the place. Or they actually break. I use dunlops now, basically because i got a big bag at best buy. They wear much longer.
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>>65635275
oh damn that sounds terrible
i like celluloid ones, when they wear they just lose shape slowly and theres no dust
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>>65635266
Yes, you are losing sustain, and the tone is different through the amp. Not necessarily worse, just ask anyone with extremely low action. Your bridge is too low, as I said before. If you're not happy with that answer, I don't know what to tell you. You need to raise the bridge and you can look up online how to do this properly for your model. Personally I prefer to do it "to taste" which basically means trial and error, though you can be pretty methodical about it. Raising, tuning, playing, and listening to the tone and sustain. There will always be some buzz depending on how hard you play, so deciding what sounds best to you can be difficult. It's worthwhile though.

After you are entirely happy with the bridge action at upper frets you can worry about neck relief. If you decide to factor in neck angle(the angle adjusted by shims) the issue becomes more complex. I prefer to adjust neck angle first by how far off the body I want my strings to be rather than by how straight I want the neck to be when the action is finalized. I notice this more, and it's a hell of a lot easier to adjust the action if you aren't messing with the neck angle.

Most of the time you can ignore neck angle.
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>>65635498
tl;dr do you have an answer that's not war and peace?
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What do you guys think of the Epiphone Les Paul - Special II ?
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>>65635582
special 2 more like poop butts
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>>65635582
If guitars were shoes they'd be dollar store flip flops.
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>>65635582
its fine if this is your first one. youll upgrade later.
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>>65635582
Dont buy an epiphone LP is my advice.

Only had poor experiences with them due to terrible build quality. Not to mention all the cuts they take to ensure the guitars don't look good.

Use your money to buy a good LP clone or a different guitar.

Unless its your first guitar, then whatever.
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>>65635648
Sounds like the shitty advice my Dad gave me when I when I first started dating. Then I got the first girl I fucked pregnant the first time I fucked her.
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>>65635739
Yeah you have to be really careful with guitars getting pregnant.
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>>65635739
Oh shit I can understand that, I bought the cheapest guitar the store had, stuck a good pickup in it, and behold, it plays like shit and I'm stuck with it because it was a very poor decision.
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>>65635765
>his guitar doesn't shit babies after he plays it
u shootin blanks lil nigga
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what's the cheapest interface i can buy?
my guitar rig doesnt work and ive been told an interface is going to fix the problem
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Anyone else worse at finger picking than hybrid picking ? I can't do shit with my fingers unless I'm playing bass.
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>>65635676
What do you think about the 60s Tribute Plus? It has all upgraded hardware and Gibson pickups. There's one used for $400 on Craigslist I might pick up.
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>>65635936
Here's the truth, you ready?

Go Gibson or go home.
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>>65631645
Jazz III for lead
Those really thin nylon picks by Dunlop for rhythm/strumming
An azusa pick for anything in between
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>>65635888
Hybrid will always be inheritantly faster, try steumming 20 notes a second with your fingers
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Dammit, I kinda want this.

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/Kirk-Douglas-SG.aspx
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>>65636032
Actually it's for precise movements I suck. I can still strum regardless of if I have a pick or not.
Also while we're on the subject of strumming, I feel compelled to post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMPfYYE5CBE
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>>65636032
>Hybrid will always be inheritantly faster
Not true at all. When hybrid picking your thumb and index finger are tied to the pick, with finger picking they're separated freeing each finger on the hand up to pick five notes at once. With hybrid picking only four notes can be picked at once.
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i need to upgrade from my fender 300ce to something better

my budget is like $400-600

i was at the guitar store today, tried out some yamaha a series models, they were okay but i'm wondering if i can get something better for the same price?
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>>65636277
>my budget is like $400-600
Do you want a good acoustic?
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>>65636201
Oh yeah, but i mean for single note playing, especially for notes on the same string

>>65636170
Practice with 12 bar blues, it makes strumming piss easy, then move into practising rock stuff, regardless of your usual genre
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>>65636339
Might I suggest putting a .38 revolver in your mouth and pulling the trigger in a small room then?

The acoustic from the shot should be absolutely phenomenal.
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>>65636326
how much do i have to add to it then?
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>>65635575
Are you trolling? The first time you weren't satisfied with the answer, and now it's too much information? Sorry dude, if this is too hard to understand, just give up and pay someone to set up your guitar. I won't be able to help you further.
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>>65636410
You should be easily able to get the fantastic single note I described for $400-600.
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>>65636446
>I won't be able to help you further.
stupid asshole you didn't help me in the first place. don't reply to me anymore
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In my guitar book, it say not to worry about perfecting the lesson before moving to the new lessons. However at the same time it says to not slight any lessons before moving on. How do I know when to move on because I if I flub a note or two, I will not move on.
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>>65636388
>in a small room
What is the significance of this?
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>>65636621
>How do I know when to move on
When you're in your early forties and you decide to pawn your guitar for beer money.
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>>65636621
Try to differentiate what is a fundamental part of the subject, and what is a nuance/detail. Details and consistency are learned over a long period of time. Spend as much time on a lesson as you need to until you've cleared up and doubt in your mind about this. You can always go back and readdress an issue later. A good way to judge this is if a new lesson seems unreasonably difficult, you may need to strengthen the stuff you already learned.

Nothing is hard set, there's plenty of wiggle room here.
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How do I play like David Rawlings
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>>65636724
Ok, so how do I differentiate what is a fundamental part of the subject, and what is a nuance/detail?
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>>65636768
Are you stupid or something?
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no bully
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>>65636724
>You can always go back and readdress an issue later.
Telling someone it's a good idea to build on bad habits or incorrect techniques is terrible advice.
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>>65636757
With a guitar?
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>>65636801
Rude.
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>>65636768
You should just guess, if the lesson doesn't say what it is. Essentially the fundamental is the things the lesson clearly states, while the details are things you notice on your own or are not explicitly stated. Once again, since it's a matter of consistency, you don't need to master what you're trying to do, just be able to know what you're trying to do, and know when you messed up.

The best rule of thumb I can give is what I previously mentioned: If a new lesson seems unreasonably difficult, go back and review previous lessons which you think may be related.
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>>65636850
>terrible advice

what else were you expecting?
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>>65636898
>>65636724
thanks
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>>65636850
That's not what I'm trying to say. Bad habits are things you're doing the wrong way, not just things you occasionally slip up on. Even if you do talk about it in terms of bad habits, there is a balance, as bad as that is of me to say. It's just as dangerous to never go back and review your fundamentals as it is to move on too quickly. The most important thing is to simply notice whether or not you're doing it correctly. This self-analysis is a skill on its own, but it's the best way to improve in the long run.
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>>65636898
>Once again, since it's a matter of consistency, you don't need to master what you're trying to do, just be able to know what you're trying to do, and know when you messed up.
How would I maintain consistency if I don't know what I'm trying to do? How will I know when I messed up if I don't know know what I'm trying to do? How do I know what I'm trying to do, just guess?
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Where's the best place to buy power supplies for a pedal? I just got a looper off eBay and the seller forgot to put the power supply in the box. Now I can either wait another week for it to get here or say fuck it, and go buy one so I can start using this thing today. I already spent $80 on the pedal itself, so I'm not really wanting to put much more money into it. I'm guessing guitar center will fuck me over on the price, right?
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>>65637019
That's what I'm saying, DO try to understand when you're doing it right and wrong. Your learning materials should tell you what is right and wrong, you need to understand the lesson to that degree and commit those details to memory before moving on. You should also be able to execute the things you're learning most of the time, if not 100% of the time.

tl;dr Learn what you are supposed to do, recognize when you fail to execute.
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>>65637015
>Bad habits are things you're doing the wrong way
Yeah, and according to you it's no sweat to just go back and readdress these issues later, which is wrong. It's also wrong to imply someone should just simply notice whether or not they're doing something correctly or not. You don't know what you're talking about at all.
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>>65637113
I think I bought my power supply from guitar center and it was around 20 to 30 usd. I'd just do it.
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Someone know a good cheap power supply for my pedals?

Batteries suck
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>>65637240
Corsair ax760i
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>>65637191
Fuck me, $30? That's definitely more than I'd like to spend considering there's a free one coming in the mail. The only reason I'm tempted to go to GC is cause I know they'll give the right one. I'm terrified I'll end up getting the wrong power supply and fry the pedal.
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>>65637174
What I said in my original post is that you can go back to address the details. That does not in any way imply that you should learn a lesson, then do it a different way after learning it. There is a level of detail in every aspect that goes beyond what can be considered bad habit or even incorrect. Perfection is not achievable in the short term, only the long term.

If you think I am advocating continuing when you know you're doing it wrong, I regret not being more clear. I only advocate moving on when you know exactly how to do it the right way and can do it as such without messing up most of the time. I don't think anyone here will argue that accidentally missing a note qualifies as a bad habit. Not ever playing that note is a bad habit, sure. But otherwise it's a matter of consistency.
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>>65633194
yamaha, ibanez and squire are decent entry level basses
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>>65636724
>>65636898
>>65637015
>>65637173
>>65637380
I like this guys advice, it's something along the lines of
>If you're trying to learn a second language just sit in a room with a book written in the language you're trying to learn.
>You'll make sense of it eventually.
>Just know which words you read wrong.
>And if you get them wrong just go back and read them right later.
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>>65637442
just practice a lot anon
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What does /mu/ think about Jaguar VM Bass?
Looking for a decent bass in 250 dollars range (about 1000-1200zl)
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Anyone have a source for cheap/knockoff/counterfeit pedalboards that actually sound good?
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>>65637442
Not that guy, but I know that you are right and I'm just too poor for lessons. Hopefully I'm not teaching myself too many bad habits.
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>>65637442
Reading books in another language works though, once you've got the basics of grammar, you just need to check a dictionnary once in a while whn you stumble against words you don't know.
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>>65637442
You are painting my advice as a black and white difference between mastering every aspect of your playing to a pro level, and just ignoring lessons completely.

The guy specifically asked about the difference between perfecting everything before moving on, which his book advised against, and giving each lesson due diligence, which his book recommended.

I can as easily compare mastering everything before moving on as "learn every word in a language before trying to use it in conversation."

You're being too eager to fight instead of contributing to understanding of what is clearly a gray area for a beginner. Please, try to help clarify what you see as best practice for anon, so he can see a viable way to move forward and learn effectively.

I feel that my position is not as lax as you imagine. I've said that he should consider everything mentioned in each lesson as a fundamental, that's hardly saying, "just get the gist if it."
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>>65637533
Short scale is a major tonal decision unless you are willing to tune up a half step sometimes. If you plan to keep your bass in E standard all of the time, the scale length is a major decision.
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>>65637641
Only interested in 34 standard scale
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Proud owner of a brand new Seagull Maritime Rosewood as of today. This Canadian made guitar has an amazing tone at a fair price. It has been years since I owned an acoustic and I need to practice a lot before I can play in front of people. Please recommend some good songs to get me warmed up to some acoustic styles, if you will.
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>>65637661
I didn't think squier made one in 34". Anyway, not to be that guy but sx also makes a good jaguar. A bit cheaper and if you go by talkbass a bit better. On /gg/ most people will prefer the squier by default. In my case I haven't played either the sx or squier models specifically, but among basses in the same line among both brands(jazz basses), I preferred the sx.
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>>65637533
I don't mind them. They sound pretty good for the price. I'm trying to find a good P/J and if I found one that weighed more I'd buy it.

>>65637641
It's not that big a deal, unless you really want to sit in the guitar area of a mix.
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>>65637582
>once you've got the basics
>basics
Exactly. It's like giving an arithmetic book to a three year old and expecting them to learn math, you'd be an idiot for expecting them to be able to do that. That guys "advice" is pure shit if you're not already well acquainted with the basic fundamentals.
>>65637606
>and it'll be the best book you ever read!
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>>65637686
Blackbird, old number seven.
A bunch of songs is a good idea to get a variety of strumming patterns down to muscle memory.
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ALRIGHT BROS I NEED YOUR INPUT


Basically I'm going to form a band next year

however I haven't learned how to play the guitar yet, so starting next week I'm going to practice the guitar 6 hours a day on weekdays, and all day on weekends from now until I search for band members.


Think I'll produce some solid results?
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>>65637761
I'm playing with a metronome this time around too, I'm sure focusing on staying on rhythm will be tough. Never heard old number seven before, it's perfect. Will keep me practicing for a good while, I'm sure. Thanks anon
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>>65637798
>Basically I'm going to form a band next year
>however I haven't learned how to play the guitar yet


oh boy
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>>65637798
I think your fingers will hurt and you'll need to put it down a lot sooner than you realize. You need balance in life, you should be going to the gym and stuff too.
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>>65634682
They aren't perfect, you're right, and some models are way overpriced, sometimes the quality control is fucked and sometimes you can find something with more bang for the buck, but from my own experience I've noticed that they're superior to many other brands in the 500-1500€ price range.
My Gibson SG that I paid 640€ brand new has been an absolute beast and a workhorse, and I can't complain.

I guess that for alot of people, myself included, it's important when buying a Les Paul or an SG etc. -type of guitar that it's authentic in the sense that the headstock is the same shape as on your idols' guitars and it says Gibson on it.
I wouldn't want to spend x amount of money on a "knockoff" even though it's good, when I could get the "real deal" for the same amount, or a little more.
>It's all subjective
That's right, some value the brand and the history, some don't. I don't judge anyone based on their guitar's brand.

Then again, if I was spending something like 2500€ on a brand new solid body electric guitar, I doubt the headstock would have "Gibson" written on it. For that price I feel like you can get better and more interesting guitars than Les Pauls with bindings and flashy inalys.

>>65634140
I'm not sure about the right price for vintage RD's, but I've seen them on ebay for anything from $2000 to $4000. They're also really rare and I've never seen one on sale, or even just seen someone have an RD here in Finland.

I really can't afford nor do I want to pay more. The silverburst is also really appealing and I don't see the need for the artist series moog electronics, even though I see their historical value. Some day when I have the money perhaps.
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>>65637798

lol.
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>>65637798
It's not enough to be able to do much, honestly. If you have realistic goals you can definitely get out and play, but don't expect anything better than just goofing off. People will not want to listen, for example. If the other members have as much experience as you, anyway. If other people can carry the band and just let you quietly play power chords, you can get a decent result as long as you are comfortable just being an ornament, and along for the ride creatively. Plenty of band members have been like this and enjoyed success. The rhythm guitarist of the misfits, for example, can barely play. The rest of the band is actually talented, he doesn't actually add anything.
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>>65637686
WONDER WAAAAALLLLLLL
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>>65637798
>this guy
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>>65637889
>The rhythm guitarist of the misfits, for example, can barely play
>can barely play
didn't stop him from being the rhythm guitarist in one of the most revered bands and writing some of the most recognizable classic punk songs of all time DID IT?
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>>65637949
I knew I would get this answer, but I'm still not happy about it.
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>>65637686
nice Martin knockoff famalamadingdong
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>>65637977
Well, that's exactly what I'm trying to say. He didn't write any songs though.
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>>65638032
>He didn't write any songs though.
[citation needed]
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Why is everyone trying to start fights today? Let's not do that.
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>>65638083
shut up
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>>65637798
Expect years of hard work. Expect your band to suck. Be prepared to sound like total crap, because most likely, that's what's going to happen.

Also it doesn't matter If you manage to learn to play alone by the time you form your band, it's not the same as playing with other musicians.

If you manage to keep your band together for a couple of years, you might be able to produce some okay results.

Good luck mate, have fun.
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>>65638092
fite me
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whats it like being in a band?
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>>65638083
>tfw all some anons want to do is start fights and we will never have peace in /gg/
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>>65638213
sh-shut up
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>>65637798
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>>65638146
>Also it doesn't matter If you manage to learn to play alone by the time you form your band, it's not the same as playing with other musicians.
This is really important.
I can play quite well on my own but can't do anything when jamming with other people.
It's even worse if I try to play with someone who sucks.
"hey dude, you should play a G"
"where the fuck is the G"
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>>65637686
Seagulls are really nice. I almost bought an S6 but I saved up a little longer and bought a Taylor instead. Sure as hell plays better than any Mexican Martin.
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>>65638253
>he doesn't know where the fuck G is
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>>65638292
Even worse when it's a bass player, he has only 4 strings, that means only ~90 chromatically ordered notes to remember, that's not a fucking huge task, there's Gs all over the neck.
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Guys can you make a Telecaster sound like a Les Paul? What would you have to do?
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>>65637686
Under the Bridge sounds really good on an acoustic. Also:

layla
blackbird
brendan's death song
slow dancing in a burning room
hey ya
magnolia
here comes the sun
old man
out on the weekend
my friends
soul to squeeze
road tripping
and anything Tommy Emmanuel
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>>65638402
practice? this aint no chore fool. feel like it? pick it up. had enough? put it down
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>>65638402
>practice for more than 3 hours a day

I have shit to do pal
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>>65629814
Always go with Voodoo labs if you want true isolated outs, their power supplies are grounded.
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>>65638228
>tfw we will never know peace
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Anyone else hate playing on tuneomatic style guitars?
There's nowhere to rest your palm comfortably while you play, just seems like such a bad design imo.
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>>65638381
Yeah, the easiest way is to start with a very heavy body and a 24.75" scale length. If you want to get a close sound with 25.5 you can just downtune a half step and capo. Then the just put in a couple gibson-esque humbuckers of your choice. Obviously this necessitates a bridge that doesn't only fit a single coil. Also advisable but minor is replacing the electronics with 500k pots and a .047 cap.

The stickler areas when it comes to this is the weight of the guitar, scale length, and pickup placement. These things to me are the difference between getting "that les paul tone"(plenty of wiggle room) and actually trying to fool people.

Some people will specifically care about the bridge, but the les paul has had a few iterations of the bridge and this is more of a feel thing.
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>>65638477
I have the time but not the motivation
I can play for about 10 - 15 mins at a time before running out of ideas and collapsing in my chair from laziness

>>65638457
I know it's not a chore but I want to get good enough to be able to do whatever I want with a guitar and that would mean forcing myself to practice alot
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>>65638552
Also the bridge is just way too high to be comfortable.

Also don't like non-blocked tremolo style bridges because I can't rest my hand nicely on the bridge for the kind of fingerpickin shit I play.
Basically teles and blocked off strats are my best options.
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Does anyone here use mini humbuckers? How would you define their sound in comparison to regular humbuckers? Are they actually worth it?

I heard they are great for Teles.
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>>65638745
They sound a bit smaller
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>>65638677
Huh. Yeah, for anchored playing the bridge is a big factor. Some will have trouble anchoring without muting on an LP. I don't really anchor at the bridge unless I'm palm muting, so this is not a big issue for me, but I do like the strings close to the body if I want to rest my fingers on the body during finger style. I guess an LP provides for that with the pickguard, but I really don't like the pickguard moving around.

Honestly I'm not that picky though, I'll play both without noticing it too much.
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the pillows
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>>65638626
>I can play for about 10 - 15 mins at a time before running out of ideas and collapsing in my chair from laziness
Do you have ADHD ? Genuinely wondering, anyway if you want to get good, you can't without practicing. And surely not in a year, with 10-15mins of work.

>>65638552
>>65638677
I'll say the same thing as I did last time, I used to find them uncomfortable, but I have a more floating hand now and they're fine.
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>>65638783
Tele brown femanon, where are thou?
>>65638822
<3
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>>65638552
>>65638677
>he rests his palm on the bridge
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>>65638831
Not him, but I have ADD, which tends to vary from pretty serious to occasionally manageable without meds. However, I don't have issue practicing guitar as long as I'm not too rigid and have lots of variety. That's not to say I don't practice seriously, I just shift between what I'm practicing a lot. Honestly this is pretty crucial for me and I imagine it would be for a lot of people with ADD. Gotta keep it fluid, so when your mind wants to shift, it can shift to something else that's still guitar related. Having a ton of stuff to play and practice is pretty good. Also having a few different instruments is nice.
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>>65638790
I dont know I have a ton of trouble on LPs.
I guess cause my palm is always anchored to the bridge, whether muting or not. On a tele, my hand is on the saddles so I can easily go from muting to not by barely moving.
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>>65638921
You don't?

Guess it's a fenderfag thing
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>>65638945
No one cares about your made up disease you use as an excuse for stupidity. Blog post elsewhere.
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>>65638381
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>>65638978
Well, not that that's a terrible habit, it's even almost a necessity for some styles of play, but you might wanna try developing how well you can play around the middle of the body. Different tone, after all. And there's plenty of rhythm stuff that requires being able to mute and float alternately without moving back to the bridge, for example.
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>>65639055
those don't sound anything like a les paul
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>>65629021
anyone good with amps here
>peavey 6505+ 112 combo
>plug it into a power strip because i'm a fucking retard
>used to be way too loud to play in my apartment
>now tone is feeble and limp

it's one of the tubes, right? they both light up but idk if that means dick

also: there is an impedance selector, is that just for plugging into another cab that would have different impedance?

inb4 bullies
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>>65639043
he's pointing out the fact you can be disabled and still play guitar you cockgobbler
I'm colourblind and I can still paint because I'm not some crybaby that sits infront of the palette and whines about privilege or whatever.
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>>65638831
I'm ADD like that other anon, A lot of the times I'll just try to play something, find something else that's interesting then find myself sitting with a guitar I haven't touched for the last 30 minutes in my lap having done nothing to practice.

Definitely need to be very structured with what you want to do and what your goals are before you start practicing, just picking up the guitar just to play or noodle scales is impossible. Have to have a goal in mind every time or it just ends the same way.
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>>65639092
How is this amp overall? Thinking about getting it. To pair with edgemeister9000
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>>65639212
the more recent 112 is made in china, the older 212 is made in US, no idea if the speakers are any different.
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>>65639212
so i'm a bassist, and my opinion on tube amps is totally unfounded, but if you never want to play clean it is good i guess
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>>65639056
Oh no, of course I can play all along the body, without problem, I just much prefer and tend to, rest on the bridge most often with the music I play, makes me hesitant to play Tune o matic style guitars id all
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>>65633194
My first bass was a Rogue LX200b series III. The pickups are very low-output, but they work. The fret job is not very good, but I have a file, a driver's license, a sharpie, a steady hand, and patience. The electronics are shit, so I just keep everything dimed and control dynamics with my playing.

If you're trying to get into bass with as little money as possible, you're going to absolutely need to learn how to set up an instrument yourself. Otherwise, you'll spend as much on getting the thing playing well as you would have spent on a good bass.
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>>65639199
Huh, that's definitely a world of difference from me. I'm definitely just trying to stick with things I know will help, even if my goal doesn't stay the same for too long at a time. Not that I think this is the best way at all... But I find when I force myself, a personal lack of discipline combines with distractions to throw me off from playing. Instead of getting distracted by something else fun to do with guitar, I end up doing something totally unrelated. I admire your discipline. I'm sure you're gonna get a lot more bang for your buck out of practice that way.
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>>65639126
>ADD
>disabled
Haha yeah, your made up condition must be ready disabling. My wife's teenage daughter complains about it all the time! Along with her bipolar disorder and OCD, she has a really tough life.
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>>65639429
b8, we know it's you.
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Will I attract qt pies if I start playing indie music on guitar? Please reply.
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>>65639460
>>>/yahoo questions/
post results
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>>65639092
okay turns out it's not the amp the volume of my bass is fine through it.

my guitar came with a 9-volt battery in the back which I assume powers the preamp, could it be that?
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>>65639502
yep
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>>65639460
Learn wonder wall and you will be knee deep in pussy. No joke senpai
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Rec me a filter cap value!

I have an esquire, SD Antiquity I, 6.5Kohm.

I want a cap that I will make switchable via a dpdt switch. Looking for something that will roll off the treble a lil bit, give it a warmer, "humbuckerish" tone with gain. NOT looking for a cocked wah sound.
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>>65639843
What's your pot value?
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>>65639920
250K. Im thinking I need to start cutting between 1Khz and 2Khz to get that humbuckerish sound
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>>65638745
got a duncan '59 bridge in a tele
a lot more high end than regular but i would recommend over single coils in the bridge if youre looking for a heavier sound
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>>65639964
So, what exactly will the dpdt do? add the cap simply in series, along with your current tone? Switch with your current cap?
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>>65636599
What kind of cancer are you?

He gave you the best answer you could hope for, then recommended a professional if it was too bothersome.

What are you looking for exactly?
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>>65640347
I think he was just looking for a reaction. Best to ignore posts like that. I tried to help him, anyway.
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>>65640347
jesus christ whats with you and these blog posts
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>>65640444
b8
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nice thread idiots
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>>65640235
pickup -> volume pot 1 dpdt -> volume pot 2 dpdt -> 3-way

3 way is split to
1) straight to jack
2) volume pot 1
3) volume pot 2

the 2 dpdt pushpulls are the dpdts im referring to. So Im gonna have 4 total tonaloptions as theyll be running in series
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>>65640347
>Neo-4chan users don't know what b8 looks like, no matter how obvious.
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>>65640622
did i make a meme?
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>>65640558
I see. This scheme is probably much better served by switching one of the volume pots for a rotary switch. This can switch between all your cap options including your two caps in series and will not change the look for your guitar. It will also give you room for many more cap values/combinations including notch filters, which I think are pretty crucial if you want to get the humbucker tone you're looking for.

Sometimes these switches are referred to as varitones, but they can do pretty much anything you want including all the tonal options you mentioned.
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Where my Derek Bailey fans at?

https://clyp.it/2b4rsfaf
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>>65640778
I like it
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Only have enough dosh for one of these, what should I get
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>>65640730
I will look into it. Thanks anon!
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>>65638213
>>65638234
just git gud, go on Craigslist and find a band.

>>65637686
congrats! pic related is my new guitar as of yesterday. Happy pickin!

>>65638504
I love froosh posters.
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