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What is the best string quartet and why is it Death and the Maiden edition.
>inb4 how do I into classical
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>>65419654
>implying schubert isn't romantic garbage
Do you listen to classical music on your headphones or on speakers?
>>65419764
headphones
Not even his best quartet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRJHTq6zY_U
>>65419852
plen
>>65419746
>implying if you had friends they would refer to you affectionately as "tubby mushroom"
>>65419746
Hahaha, "romantic garbage". Clearly you are not properly educated in music, to make such a simplistic and stupid statement.
who /heavenlylength/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnnbHJgLQzg
My favorite is Mozart K 499: http://youtu.be/65WyWFPGmzU
>>65420546
>underrating mozart
anyone have some charts I could use to help me navigate the classical landscape?
I don't know about an absolute favorite, but this is one of em...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yGzooHnoI
I suppose this is a bit of an obvious one, but it must be posted...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2KlpV_ZOk
>>65420992
>>65421102
not that guy but do you have anything for the romantics?
What does /classical/ think of http://www.classicalcdguide.com/ ?
>>65419764
Headphones
Where should I start with Verdi? Should I watch the Operas first or listen to them before watching them?
>>65421721
Watch. Start with the Kleiber/Domingo Scala performance of Otello.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pSLX-mWQw
What does classical think of Tchaikovsky?
>>65421979
If you like him then listen to him. I personally find him rather nice to listen to, but he's not my first choice.
The only opinions you'll see here are memers shitting on Tchaikovsky and the rest of the supposed "firetruck core".
>>65422231
I haven't listened to him yet, I was just curious. I imagined the response would be negative given my quick read through of his Wikipedia article. Where does the firetruck core meme come form anyway?
does anyone have a flac link to the koroliov art of fugue recording? all links are down
>>65421979
He pretty much embodies everything I hate about the Romantic period. It's not that I don't like any Romantic composers, but Tchaikovsky is much too sentimental for my tastes.
Having that said, he was unequivocally a brilliant musician.
>>65422440
Sure, here it is:
>>65422467
Which Romantic composers do you like?
how do you guy like ravel? i think he's great.
>>65423679
disney soundtrack shit
I'm surprised this one hasn't shown up yet, my favorite string quartet by far
https://youtu.be/3m5ohobcKb8
>>65424275
are you gonna explain that or am i just being memed
>>65421979
My go to when I'm feeling like shit and need some music to feel like shit to. He writes the best melodies. Favorite pieces are the Piano Trio and the 6th symphony. Never really understood what was so great about the 1st Piano Concerto
>>65423679
Also cool. People consider him the poor man's Debussy and while I like Debussy more, I can still appreciate Ravel a great deal. Daphnis et Chloe is probably better than most if not all Debussy pieces anyway.
>>65424316
the latter
Mic controller,
lyric amova,
rhymes that im comin' so quick like a soldier,
so ya better know my name is Cover,
if you wanna test me ya better not go there,
if you go there ya gonna get messed up,
and have a face on you like a broken clock,
as I'm comin' you better get runnin',
you better get gone or your gonna get done in.
Totally agree with the OP, I have never seen death so well explored in music.
Thou shall not mess with this kid
A twisted misfit who joined the hit list
Its simple
A baby born gifted nothing but lyrics when pens are lifted
Raw talent makes me so sickness
Rhyming ability o so deceiving
this recipe for your evenin
Dowie mc's inside he aint leavin
Its time for me to take this livin the tide
To the next places dreams are made
Just listen
When the music plays
I got rhymes to spit and no time to waste
But please believe
what you see could be the best rhyming ability you've seen
ive proved that this guy can mc
(By showing how Rapid rhymes to the beat)
What you witness while I do this
Ill prove that great mc's exist
I insist
That this you don't miss
Blackout business at the best
Now there's no rest
back on set
The rapid mc live and direct
Put up the volume just a little bit
Gimme the beat and put a donk on it
>>65419654
Ayy, thats good that Tony!
Ahahaha sick!
i know you guys get probably get this a lot, but how would you rank the big three? bach, beethoven, and mozart.
>>65424669
Mozart > Bach > Beethoven
I don't get Mozart, help me
>>65424669
Beethoven > Bach > Mozart
Though my ranking is probably the most cancerous out of the 6 possibilities.
>>65424686
Mozart before Bach? Are you daft?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_Tc0DXcFQ
fucking duh
>>65424700
Listen to the minor key stuff. The appreciation for major key stuff will follow through after.
what are some non-western folk inspired pieces?
>>65424869
would you count eastern european/slavic culture as being non-western? If so, Brahms and Tchaikovsky were influenced by hungarian and russian folk music respectively.
>>65424669
Bach > Mozart > van Beethoven
>>65424669
Beethoven > Mozart > Bach
Like that.
>>65423609
Mahler, Wagner, and Brahms are my favorite
>>65424990
>back in last place
literal cancer
>>65425002
>back
kek
>>65425002
Bach is better than any other composer. Except those two.
>>65424669
bach>beethoven>mozart
>inb4 underrating mozart
>>65425002
This
In terms of "greatness", Bach is incontrovertibly No.1... and I'm pretty sure Beethoven and Mozart would have agreed
"Not brook, but Ocean should be his name"
-Beethoven
>>65419654
>tfw no Philippe Jaroussky husbando
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08-Px5Ft5s8
>>65419654
http://www.wqxr.org/
>>65425080
Handel has generally been accorded high esteem by fellow composers, both in his own time and since.[86] Bach attempted, unsuccessfully, to meet with Handel while he was visiting Halle.[87] Mozart is reputed to have said of him, "Handel understands affect better than any of us. When he chooses, he strikes like a thunder bolt."[88] To Beethoven he was "the master of us all... the greatest composer that ever lived. I would uncover my head and kneel before his tomb."[88] Beethoven emphasized above all the simplicity and popular appeal of Handel's music when he said, "Go to him to learn how to achieve great effects, by such simple means."
>>65425180
Handel objectively sucks ass though lmao. Also Bach walked over 400km to meet Buxtehude.
>BIDF
A stodgy autismal over-conservative music professor and fugue-fetishist was teaching a class on Johann Sebastian Bach, known lardass.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Baroque era and accept that it was the most productive period in the history of Western art music, even more than Viennese Classicism!”
At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.
”Professor, do you recognize this piece?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite Lutheranly as he leafed through the notebook. "Why, there's nothing in here but blank manuscript paper, you stupid pedophile. Is it 4'33"?"
"No. It's an opera. If J.S. Bach, as you say, is categorically the greatest composer of all time... then he should have written one, and it should be in this book."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and 80-disc Glenn Gould boxed set. He stormed out of the room crying those Bach fanboy crocodile tears. The same tears all autismal fanboys cry when someone else's favorite composer is different from theirs. There is no doubt at all that our professor, an anonymous craven coward who balked at accepting responsibility for his 4chan posts by using a tripcode on /mu/, wished he had taken the time to appreciate music beneath its surface aesthetics and understand the incalculable grace and poise of the great Classical masterpieces and deep intellectual current which runs beneath their simple veneer. In the final moments before his suicide, he wished so much for a requiem mass to be sung at his funeral, but alas! The lazy Bach had neglected to write any of those, either!
>>65425304
I really like this copypasta format but this is one of the lamer ones. Needs more absurdity.
post SONGS
>>65425304
>yfw this autist is going to post his pasta in every /classical/ threads from now on
>>65425220
>Handel objectively sucks ass though
[elaboration required]
>Also Bach walked over 400km to meet Buxtehude.
He probably needed the exercise.
>>65425180
Interesting. Well its still not fucking Mozart or Beethoven.
>>65425484
Cringes so hard
>>65425446
is this bait
>>65425546
who?
>>65424936
>>65424990
>>65424998
>>65425079
>>65425080
>>65425180
>>65425304
But... what about Metal composers? It's just like Classical, right?
>>65425363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UDOmUcxCk
fucking duh
>>65425630
yeah
check out this steve vai lick
*plays guitar*
>>65425630
Sorry, we don't discuss The Beatles here.
>>65425630
yes mate, sick voice leadings
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>>65425657
Bach>Steve Vai>Beethoven>Mozart
>>65425363
come on guys it's pretty hard searching "classical songs" on google
is dvorak pronounced svorsshack or what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZIRE-9EL-E
This counts as a quartet right?
>>65426344
No. A string quartet is 2 violins, 1 viola, and 1 cello.
>>65426621
Fuck. Brb killing myself
>>65426621
but they are strings and there's four, don't be a faggot
>>65426621
so all of those string quartets with 2 cellos or two violas etc arent string quartets?
>>65426694
probably
>>65426785
porbably
>>65424669
1. Bach
2. Beethoven
...
37. Mozart
Mahler Anon please I still want to hear this
>implying the GOAT string quartet combination isn't violin+irish harp+viola da gamba+theorbo
>>65427419
>>65427419
who is this
S E M E N
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D E M O N
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I don't know much about classical music, but, what do you think would go well with an acid trip?
>>65428200
Your mum's pussy
>>65428227
Okay thanks for the input.
>>65428200
Symphonie Fantastique.
>>65428269
Thanks for your honest reply.
>>65428200
Not exactly "classical", but I'd go with Schoenberg's string quartets or maybe some Ligeti. Giacinto Scelsi would be interesting if you're looking for something even more far out -- although that could backfire a bit lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfGfqkiZCo
>>65428514
Thank you for the thought out remarks.
I don't listen to classical much, so what exactly do you guys do while listening? Is it similar to listening to modern music or are you typically doing something while listening like reading?
>>65428760
usually i jump back and forth between listening and doing something else and just straight listening, but (when applicable) i like to read the score along with it.
Heard Mahler's 1st Symphony live today.
Shit was so cash.
>>65428760
Typically I masturbate while listening to classical.
>>65428882
Do you masturbate with your pinky out?
>>65428898
Well, obviously.
Please upload this too, I beg
mp3 is fine
>>65428928
Already on youtube my fine friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fjy_2ajEkg
>>65428941
eric
>>65428928
https://mega.nz/#!ORMW2IZL!GtGkZJQV5hyWcUkiJ-Ezf384rEycUMuNB-dYU17Qm5k
>>65429123
Holy shit, this is great, thank you so much
How come I'm just finding out about this conductor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQyXI5mDHZ4
>>65429254
Better known as a teacher than a prolific recording conductor. He had a shit ton of students, many of which went on to be famous like Mehta and Abbado. But yeah, shame he wasn't as prolific as his students as I think he was very talented. His Wagner Ring would have been one of the best if it wasn't recorded so terribly.
There are probably a lot of broadcast recordings with him floating about, but barely any of it has been officially released. I have a few recordings from the NHK (from a friend) which sound great. Rediscovery has some stuff as well: http://www.rediscovery.us/paperbacks.html (a very fired up Schubert 9th)
Other than I suppose we can just sit back and hope more stuff from him turns up from the archives.
>>65429123
that girl is cute
I'm a newfag to /mu/ and /classical/, so I don't know jack shit about the general opinions of this board.
My favorite composer is Sibelius. How shit is my taste?
>>65429747
at least its not mozart
>>65429747
Sibelius is good
>>65429747
well they named a musical notation program after him so it must be good
Ever feel like you're missing out on other genres if your listening is focused mostly on classical?
>>65430722
no, since I went to classical last after listening to a shit ton of popular music throughout my teenage years.
>>65429747
>My favorite composer is Sibelius
ayy lmao
>>65429447
That's pretty great, such a shame he didn't record more
>>65424429
Like you said he does great melodies. First movement of the piano concerto has a really sweet melody. Can't say much about the rest of it, haven't listened to it in a while, but I remember that melody well. It reminds me of that melody from Verdi's Don Carlo (I hope you know the one I mean).
Hey, I wanna listen to Goldberg Variations. Should I listen to the Gould recording or is there any better?
>>65424998
My fucking man.
>>65430722
No.
>>65432030
Leonhardt, DHM; Gilbert, HM Fr.
>>65432030
Hantai
Im durnk as fuck my favorite composition is Bachs cello suite 1
all of it
>>65425651
That second and fourth movement.
Noice
>>65425363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5f3bWIzk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLiz953sAw
Quick, there isn't much time, quick recommend me something that solely involves violin and pian.
>>65430722
No, I dedicated my entire life to listening to music. There literally isn't any genre I don't listen to, mostly classical though.
>>65433168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vRTWTaIIDA
Can't understand why Cunning Little Vixen is so well-liked, it's nowhere near Janacek's best
>>65435027
Same reason Zootopia got so popular.
>>65436710
I suppose since it's got lesbian furries, it's even more progressive.
>>65419654
Thanks for the links dude
>>65425484
hey CLT you should put your trip back on, we really miss you
which genre of classical music is your guy's favorite? mine is the piano concerto.
Which composers oeuvre had the greatest chamber music?
>>65430722
I was listening to mostly popular music before I started listening to classical a couple days back. From what I've heard so far, I'd say that if you listening to anything that isn't classical, save for maybe jazz, you're missing out.
>>65430722
yes
>>65430722
Delving into Piobaireachd at the moment as a slight break from 'normal' art music. It's fascinating stuff
>>65438424
I'm unfamiliar with this artist. Care to share?
>>65435027
I like String Quartet No. 1
>>65430722
The modern construct of genre in Western Popular music is mostly a linguistic one. I'm not even talking about tonal content, any two random Popular music genres are disturbingly similar in almost all aspects - timbres, production, vocals, lyrics, you name it.
I think I've heard enough to safely say I've heard it all. At the very least, I don't think it's worth it to sift through hundreds of hours of fecal sludge for the odd gem.
My balls smell like apple juice and chili powder.
>>65438494
It's the 'high' form of Scottish bagpipe music. Put simply, the format is quite an elaborate sort of theme and variations. It's got its own notation and quite an interesting history.
>>65428200
Bach's hyper-autistic pieces?
>>65438846
If Bach is autistic I want to contract Aspergers.
>>65438839
Sounds really cool.
>>65428837
Right on man! What's your favorite part? Mine is that ONE WHER HTE STRINGS SHRIEK AND THE BRASS GOS ALL PRRRLBRRT!
>>65438916
I want you to admit right here and right now that you actively curate a tumblr account.
>>65439291
I actually do. Do you want the link?
>>65439383
Only if you show your pussy.
>>65439407
moldysphincter.tumblr.com
It's mostly art and spooky photos.
>>65429123
now thats what im talking about
>>65430722
No. Do you even understand what art music offers?
>>65432030
Seconding Hantai >>65432137
>>65439429
cool
>>65437827
>>65437827
>chamber aka bathroom
>>65439900
Bump
>>65430722
Seeing as you included the word "mostly", no.
Going to listen/watch the Ring cycle for the first time. Went for the Boulez set. Quite excited desu
>>65441545
holy shit, people still put that thing on? make sure you drink coffee to stay awake
Are we still talking about quartets? how has Beethoven's op. 131 not been mentioned? Or Ravel's F major? Any love here for George Crumb's Black Angels??
>>65428200
Pendereki - Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima
>>65424990
wow it's like they influenced each other or something
>>65442453
>Any love here for George Crumb
"no"
is there any classical approved metal bands?
i listened to metal growing up, but been studying music for years now and can barely stand listening to metal any more because it's just so mindless.
The human abstract is the only band i've found that intentionally uses classical techniques.
anyone know any others?
>>65442916
Varg and the Burzums
>>65442956
plz
>>65442823
explain
Also Webern's Bagatelles are very important and intoxicating
Hi sorry but I figured this would be the best place to ask since most of you probably don't browse sharethreads too much.
Requesting anything by Fernando Valenti.
Especially looking for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amv3sBiaxvM [Remove]
Good harpsichord/fortepiano/clavichord recordings are welcome as well.
I'm also trying to find a version of the Goldberg variations where the first variation isn't painfully slow.
>>65443110
Wow that sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REqtKxgBUEk
1. Bach
2. Mozart
3. Beethoven
>people ITT seriously consider anything other than this acceptable
>>65443317
What makes you say that? Ross's recording has better sound and the notes are more distinguishable, but it's kind of missing the energy I got from Valenti's performance.
I like that recording as well though.
>>65443397
beethoven>mozart
fite me
>>65443397
i don't get mozart. out all of the classical music i've heard mozart is just so boring.
maybe it's just the period.
his requiem is dope af though
top ten composers for string quarters?
>>65443517
>>65443692
Beethoven's music is certainly more interesting, but I place Mozart there because his music is so incredibly precise and perfect. I think it's almost an objective truth that Mozart is the greatest melody writer ever. His music has the strongest sense of completion and perfection and control. I'd say he's only second to Bach because Bach seems to hav nearly a much control and perfection whilst at the same time exploring a much larger range and depth of music. Mozart is certainly more simple.
>>65425080
And he was as big as an ocean
>>65443942
Cringed
>>65426186
vorzhack
>>65443963
Its true desu, he was fat
>>65444061
Stop, I'm getting second-hand embarrassment
Obviously "classical" music isn't a perfect descriptor for all the music discussed here, since it is often contrasted with baroque and romantic and so on. Is there a better term? Calling it "art music" as opposed to "popular music" sounds pretentious as fuck, and there's plenty of artistic music that is popular.
>>65444130
Please be bait
>>65444130
Legitimate music is my preferred term
>>65443869
>Beethoven's music is certainly more interesting
>>65442453
Ravel's F major was mentioned, had a good listen to that. I haven't listened to much Ravel at all and really enjoyed that quartet.
>>65444794
Ravel's quartet is dank as fuck.
Ravel in general is dank as fuck.
>>65445150
>dank as fuck
Kill yourself.
What're some good horn concertos?
I know of Mozart's and Carter's already.
>>65445331
telemann concerto for 3 horns
>>65445331
also brandenburg concerto 1 if that counts
>>65445331
Gliere
>>65445331
Schumann's & Strauss's
you have ten seconds to rank beethoven's symphonies
Hot
So where does Das Rheingold fit in Nolan's universe? Was The Dark Knight Rises a 21st century interpretation of gesmtkunstwerk?
>>65446121
Oh baby
>>65446096
3
5
7
9
4
6
2
8
1
I feel really bad ranking 2 and 8 that low.
>>65446096
3 > 8 > 9 > 7 > 5 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 1
>>65430722
death grips > bach
>>65446096
3>7>8>5>9>6>4>2>1
>>65444794
>>65445150
Ravel is the dopest motherfucker operating in the Western tonal tradition. No one does it like him. He's not "the poor man's Debussy". Debussy's a force of his own but his best work, in my opinion, isn't tonal so my original point stands. Faves:
>Rhapsodie Espagnole
>Gaspard de la nuit
>Piano Concerto in G maj
>Mirors
>Piano Concerto for the Left Hand
>Daphnis et Chloe
>Jeux d'eau
>>65446365
shit bait
2/10 try harder
>>65446398
>5>9
kill yourself
>>65446096
Importance
3>5>9>6>7>8>4>2>1
Personal preference
8>3>9>5>7>6>2>4>1
where should i start with telemann
>>65446869
don't bother
>>65446908
why
>>65446869
His solo violin fnatasias
when people randomely post youtube video links,
does anybody here actually listen to them?
Can someone give me a piece that's as fucking violent and bleak as Schubert's Quartet in the OP?
>>65447160
I don't usually get down with Shostakovich, but his last quartet is amazing in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ubwb7hbI0
>>65447260
shostakovich string quartet 8
>>65447352
what the fuck i was just about to post shostakovich
>>65447391
I MEAN THE FOURTH MOVEMENT SORRY
>>65447391
>>65447417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqP_PhzVKV0
Why is Beethoven's 1st symphony so underrated?
>>65447463
Not quite as dynamic as Schubert but I liked it, thanks friend.
>>65420992
CLT's guide to the western canon.
Holy shit, I can't get enough of this third movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2NZmFFhl6w
>>65447260
In terms of quartets
Janacek 1
Schoenberg 2
Did Janacek ever compose something like this again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQLD_rPWXsE
>>65447638
listen to the second movement as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nKJoZY64A
at 5:36
Post the last 5 recordings you listened to.
>>65447547
Because it's the least best one. I admire the simplicity in the 1st movement.
>>65448320
Well, that is true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSjyDH4MJCc
>tfw you will never fug Abbado
>>65448668
>modernized performance
why do you guys listen to this stodgy fucking crap? are you allergic to pussy?
>>65448933
paganini was a womanizer mate
>>65448933
You say that like 99% of this board aren't basement dwelling virgins.
Rec weird 20th and 21st century music that hits you in the feels.
>>65448953
>paganini
how do i into him
>>65449233
his 2 most famous pieces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Wv60_X17A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uALsg4aWKB0
>>65449233
parma, italy
>>65449453
i said into not inter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRWFMxK-gEo E
>>65449233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8rfjyypZ0
paganini also wrote many very good guitar works, he was as good a guitarist as he was a violinist
>>65449980
Do you have any suggestions for recordings? I've been trying to find good classical guitar works for awhile now.
Rec strange 20th and 21st music that hits you in the feels.
>>65450223
Not written for the guitar, but.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7udClrQtmws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLPdxdvEXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJaXP49YQ5s
>>65449233
Don't and listen to Liszt instead if you want virtuoso romantic music.
>>65450223
i dont have all that many cds of guitar, (i have a ton on a wishlist to buy)
but i can definitely recommend this one, it features all of fernando sor's minuets from multiple opuses
https://www.amazon(DOT)ca/gp/product/B000F3A9R6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>65450451
Thank you friend.
>>65450297
try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCkd46hcRag
or maybe a different steve reich piece
It seems like most of the big names of classical composers are focused mainly on pianos and strings. Who are the best composers of woodwinds or brass pieces?
