/prod/ - Arca edition
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http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
>/prod/ wiki
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
Still needs work
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To join, you can go to http://www.rizon.net/chat
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No soundclouds, use clyp.it
Post tracks, express opinions, show templates, share stuff
Picking up Renoise, reading the manual and digging it so far.
Drawing waveforms and adding effects like chorus and distortion actually sound like I want them to, unlike other DAWs I've tried in the past.
Any tips or things I should know or will I be good with just the manual?
>>65388929
how does he do it famabamalia?
>>65389040
I've been doing my best to dive as deep as possible into arca's boipussy and learn his tricks of the trade
https://www.reddit.com/r/futurebeatproducers/comments/3n6bci/organic_signal_processing_or_how_do_i_sound_like/
this points out some of the programs and methods that he uses
my laptop broke, buying a new one
Are SSDs worth it? or am i better of aiming for a hard drive because it has more space?
also should i try to get an i7 processor, or will a strong i5 do the trick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e38S2Amvc0
>tfw you'll never reach the level of even his early shit
also I'd fuck him t b h
>>65389118
>sounds like what a musical interpretation of Worlds.com might sound like if done by a vaporwave-crazed field recording artist.
seriously fuck reddit
>>65391434
at least they have some people discussing production methods
>>65388929
production courses are fucking shit, why you´d pay to get some non-genre related douche explaining you what a reverb is before doing what you do at home, just in a class for very dumb and meaningless oneliner teen feedbacks. its just fucking stupid i cant believe i wasted money on this
>>65389867
>Are SSDs worth it?
Lol what? With the price of storage these days you have no reason not to get at least a 128 SSD. Actually no, you have no reason not to get a 256 SSD. I mean, a 3TB hard drive costs less than $100, what the fuck man?
I mean holy shit you really know nothing of tech, do you? And you aspire to be a producer? Is flash better than mechanic? Goddamit man, buy that SSD. For fuck's sake.
Get an i7 as well. Again, what the fuck man.
speaking of arca...i know he uses izotope iris for most of his synth programming. which i tried myself and is as hard as shit. is there an intuitive way to learn spectral synthesis?
>>65391840
gb2 /g/
Ableton beginner here, how bad is this?https://clyp.it/lwb2xba4
https://clyp.it/2yjfc4lp
does the quincy jones organ sample sound awkward and forced?
also can someone with some monitors let me know how the mix sounds?
>>65392045
hes right though
>>65388929
that pic is cringe inducing
>>65390923
> early shit
> 2014
> arguably his best album
besides, don't focus on what other artists do. find the thing you're really good at & be the best at it.
man that sounds so fucking cliche now that i read it back but it really is true
>>65392596
agreed
>>65390923
this isn't even that good
why is everyone fanboying him so hard?
>>65393025
Arca sucks ass, idgi either
>>65393025
didn't you get the memo? it's more important to be a genderqueer new york ballroom scene fixture than it is to make good songs nowadays.
https://clyp.it/ghriajia
is it done family?
>>65393486
why do you have to be like this
>>65393509
yes.
how did you do that thing at the start?
>>65393584
what thing
>>65393604
everything in the firt 30 seconds
>>65393509
beep boop
>>65390923
Stretch 1 is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy-6Z40Yg-A
How do I write lyrics? I have an okay understanding of creating melodies and song strucutre, but I have no lyrics.
>>65393835
fuck I love this song
https://clyp.it/e5rlj4j2
what do you lads think? Am I justice yet?
>>65393880
For lyrics you have to read and write. And not just lyrics, you have to read actual books. Poetry, you know. Check out William Blake (mind-forg'd manacles), T. S. Eliot (women come and go) and Emily Dickinson (a funeral in my head) for starters.
But most obviously, you have to learn your genre. Trance requires quite a different approach from country, for example. Learn the clichés and mannerisms.
Most importantly, write. And write constantly, every day.
daily reminder the "make sure two instruments aren't competing for frequencies" meme needs to die
>>65392203
anyone?
https://clyp.it/jg5er5iw
>>65394229
That's called mixing.
>>65394402
its a meme, instruments can be in the same frequency and work together, in fact its a core product of a lot of percussive elements.
>>65394447
niqqa when u post it's a good idea to make at least a little sense
>>65394477
I make perfect since but ok
>>65394493
lol too good
>>65394522
did you like my joke there? me too, but seriously, I make perfect sense.
>>65394537
u fucked up senpai
don't try to play it off like you meant to do that
>>65394626
Okay.
>>65392203
>>65394309
y must i beg?
i used to get feedback in an instant
what happened?
Over the years I've built a setup of 100% hardware (synths, samplers, drum machines, and mics for vocal/acoustic elements) because I wanted to avoid the confusion of DAWs.
What can they do for me now?
What can ableton
Anyone here use Reaper? I'm new to it but I've loved how well it's worked with EZ Drummer and how quick writing drum parts has been. I'm currently shopping around for audio interfaces (looking for mic connection, as recording from amp-mic), and I keep hearing of people having trouble making some of the better known brands like the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 working with it. I'm curious, does anyone have any hints as to audio interfaces which have worked well with Reaper for them?
>>65388929
A lot of the links in the pastebin are dead now.
>>65395338
My old M-Audio mobile-pre usb worked with Reaper back when I used Reaper, so I would assume newer M-Audio interfaces would also work.
>>65394685
sounds like you wasted a ton of money on that shit because you probably have clue what you're doing if you think avoiding software is a good idea.
>>65395531
Thanks man, looking into that
>>65394685
way more expensive than going full digital plus your trapped in your moms garage.
>>65394662
faggot.
>>65392203
some of the piano lead notes need to be held longer.
>>65395735
what a constructive criticism
>>65394318
D A M S O N W H E R E D Y O U F I N D T H I S
>>65394662
/prod/ also used to not die at 55 replies
why did i do this
https://clyp.it/a1yvm4oa
>>65395909
I made it
>>65396453
future af
>>65396453
:fire:
>>65396453
it's funny because soulja boy say "i got me some bathing ape" at the end of a verse
the guy who founded bape was the dj for the teriyaki boyz
who had that one song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuJDhFRDx9M
totally coincidental honestly
we should make a soulja boy remix contest
>>65396453
spiritual
>>65388929
literal faggots in the op instead of funky afromen
oh /prod/ how low can you fall
>>65397182
bump this to be honest
>>65396453
>https://clyp.it/a1yvm4oa
with a little polish this would probably go off at a normie party
finish it up and fuck mad basic bitches
>>65392061
pretty bad
Anyone here use Maschine? Do you use it to create entire tracks or just export your work to a DAW?
>>65394685
the same shit they could always do? learn to bridge the gap between digital and hardware and twice the power to you
>>65399094
>>65399121
Like this guy
https://clyp.it/4mqapu0n
opinions? Im new at using ableton.
>he doesnt have an elaborate midi chain of all hardware going into a gigantic mixer
https://clyp.it/tdjpgtbu
https://clyp.it/hndnnt12
made this a few days ago, pretty proud of it, still trying to get better at having more movement to my arrangement and making them less blocky... any thoughts/ critiques?
>>65399586
>https://clyp.it/4mqapu0n
try working on thickening/ layering your high hats a little bit, they sound v. thin
>>65389022
Bump. always been interested in this daw but never known where to start
based Arca
>>65392203
>https://clyp.it/2yjfc4lp
It sounds fine-ish to me. But honestly at this point, you could make a tighter organ riff using one of the various B3 emulations (even vintage organ if you have logic). Give you a bit more control over the thing. I like the tune though, sounds good.
>>65399777
This sounds like its from a spaghetti western on Venus. I would have liked to hear you use some filter automation on that synth riff, could help you transition it. Even something simple like a lowpass filter slowly crawling down until it disappears. Or some automation on a reverb send when you are about to drop the synth out- so it leaves behind a nice trail. Something more than just "oh now its gone". In fact there are a few other parts that give me that impression. You are great at making some cool ambient sound design-y elements, create some to pad your transitions that let the listener know that something is about to arrive or disappear.
Listen to some Meat Beat Manifesto and get some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytM9QPtUozs
Check this shit out too, and laugh your ass off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnPH-K44ld8
soulja boyz
>>65399094
I use Maschine. Since buying it I've hardly touched my proper DAWs. In fact I'd be surprised if I ever do again.
It's been like four years and I'm still making absolute trash. Not learning anything. Idk, maybe this is something you have to go to school for?
Anyway, what are some good sites for selling your prod-related stuff?
Nobody's buying on Craigslist/eBay.
I've just started to try sampling to see how it would go. Any constructive criticism for this?
https://clyp.it/hydfrv4s
Everything is sampled from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y82jDHRrswc
>>65399711
>https://clyp.it/tdjpgtbu
I was sort of enjoying that intro.
But then that drum beat came in.
Working on something shoegazey in a DAW and I am in mixing hell.
Any tips?
https://clyp.it/21xszhgz
>>65392045
You're a prod/ user who hasn't done multiple years browsing /g/ already? Better get started. Otherwise enjoy losing your work when you get botnetted out the ass and your machine shits itself.
>>65405089
Add more reverb to the buzzing/whirring sound as it lacks depth. Also play around with the compression/volume because the entire mix sounds like shit.
So /mu/, is anyone interested with this idea: Someone uploads a raw ableton file (or whatever, i just assume most people here use ableton) and /prod/ mixes the song then uploads it to clyp. This will help people with mixing as well as lead to discussion on what certain people did and what sounded the best/unique.
>>65406390
Why don't we just have a remix contest?
>>65406430
>65406430
Because this would focus more on mixing/mastering an already completed song. Imagine it like an audio engineer mixing a song from a band, the band doesn't want a remix.
Why does /prod/ hate FL Studio?
>>65392061
Is that a Genesis cover?
>>65406606
because its good if used correctly and by the right person
>>65406331
Will do.
Thanks.
>>65389022
the tutorials on youtube that they have are excellent and very informative. I would say learn how to utilize all the native effects and effect commands.
I am pretty sure this is in the manual already, if not here it is
http://files.renoise.com/manual/Renoise_Redux_Effect_Commands.png
>>65392061
Needs more melodic interest. The Arpeggios sound, well, generic and uninteresting.
In electronic music they are most often used to help establish the key/mode of the song, for example when the bass goes on wild wobble rides in DnB or Dubstep. On their own they sound boring.
Add a bassline.
Add more prominent drums.
Add melodic elements.
>>65392203
>https://clyp.it/2yjfc4lp
The lead piano is too "stabby" and adds a percussive element, clashing with the transients of the drums. The chord piano also needs more sustain.
You may think that the organ sample feels forced because it is the only other element except the vocals that is not always there. Add another element to flipflop between that and the organ (call and response style), and it would sit better.
If those are to be the only vocals, then in my opinion they need to be more prominent in the mix. At the moment they have some kind of background vocal feel.
>>65394318
Pretty good, except for the montone "toot" every bar after the intro. That gives me nothing and annoyed me after a while.
Maybe modulate it a bit with filters over the course of the track to make it more interesting, or make it follow the root note of the chords, or put it a bit in the background of the mix with more reverb.
>>65394402
no it's not, the other guy is right, most things take up most of the spectrum
>>65399711
>https://clyp.it/tdjpgtbu
That whiny erhu at the end lays on the cliche pretty thick. Also, something about the drums, especially the rolls feels a bit off for this kind of track.
>>65404191
Read this:
> http://jamesclear.com/ira-glass-failure
>>65406390
Upload stems instead of a project file, because this may use 3rd party plugins the others may not have. Also, Logic, FL, Reaper can participate, too.
what does /prod/ thinks of my extremely short composition?let me know if its generic/mess or just bad because i really want to improve but just cant rate it by myself and the /comp/ thread just expired.
https://clyp.it/wlabvf4p
Is this the right way of splitting a channel into highs and lows?
Because I feel like it isn't.
It kind of changes the sound.
>>65408034
Looks like your rolloffs are overlapping, which will change the sound. Consider having them drop straight at right angles instead of a curve, so you get pinpoint precision splitting.
>>65408075
it's the steepest curve available in fl's parametric eq 2.
do I need a different eq plugin?
Can anyone explain to me how can I use the Nova3 generative sequencer?
https://tonecarver.wordpress.com/nova3-generative-sequencer-vst/
>>65408093
>>65408034
Try EQUO. Note you can also use it to send only certain frequency bands of a sound to another track using the "Send" tab.
https://clyp.it/zkb2tkav?token=f4cd4f00dde80682560b1a164e79d6df
Any tips for the mix? Are the drums too loud or is it ok?
first time making any music ever, what do you guys think?
>https://clyp.it/xyqwaxjw
>>65393975
Why copy? Also, it feels flat or something.
>>65393975
the first part is kinda confusing, the second part reminds me of planisphere, probably part 3 the most, except not as good.
needs more french horn/10
>>65409175
this is pretty decent, are you using presets?
>>65406390
I like this idea
Hi /prod/ can i get opinions
https://clyp.it/rbojyioa
Perdition City influences, i tried things i don't know if it's too blurry/dull i tend to indulge too much into blurring everything
>>65409114
Drums are alright i'd say
>>65408027
Your tone is unadapted t b h
>>65406606
I don't
>>65409826
why are you making it clip? i get the blur and it'd be decent if you didn't blast the signal out the ass for no reason
>>65409860
>why are you making it clip?
I don't think so i'll check again
>>65409826
It is too ''blurry'' for my taste and the beginning kind of hurts. At the moment it sounds as some sort of a cave lo-fi recording. If that is the aesthetic you're going for then fine but adjust the clipping.
is this wonky /prod/?
https://clyp.it/nnif0r4q
first time working on a track in what seems like months... felt good.
https://clyp.it/4sgreanu
>>65409086
oh thanks a lot, that's great!
>>65409990
Feel like that sax tone could be a bit cleaner, also accentuate that pad/keys underneath a bit more, they give it a good warm touch..glad you're producing again mate
What's your go-to sample pack for one shots, especially kicks ?
>>65409958
Reminds me of the Spyro OST's a bit, which is a very good thing. Sounds nice, keep at it, really want to hear it polished
>>65410361
oh man, completely forgot about this game!
thanks man
dead thread
I'm having such a hard time /prod/. I feel I'm a creative person but when it comes to producing my mind just goes blank. Anyone else know this feel/how did you overcome it? I just want to make music that makes me feel something.
>>65411652
one word
out-of-the-box-anything
literally anything that creates sounds is inspirational as fuck
instruments even more so
>>65411652
Ideas almost always sound better in your head than they do put to use. Just keep practicing, and it'll come out better eventually.
>>65404642
>>65407829
Yeah, I think the same. This was the first track I did using ableton so im Im not too critic about it. thanks for the feedback.
>>65411652
buy a used electribe emx1
too bad the groove boxes market is dead, composing with them is fun af
>>65412492
speaking about boxes and electribes
what is the general consensus on the electribe sampler?
i don't know whether to get a korg emx or esx at all?
i'm also considering getting an akai mpc 1000 or 500? any thoughts on those?
i want an affordable sequencer that can handle samples and such.
i'd get a tempest or machinedrum but those are kinda steep for me rn
>>65408034
Just use maximus my nigga.
Here's a video explaining it: https://youtu.be/yKVenBHWqGo
>>65412799
i think is good for it's price, but it's definetly a no-no for my workflow, much less control over the single parts, and NO FUCKING SONG MODE (wich i need a lot)
First, sorry for the very bad quality of my language, I'm just doing what I can.
I make my music in FL Studio, I think I've gotten pretty good sounds and synergies in my tracks, but there's one thing that's bugging me, I always feel like my sounds lack depth, and width.
So I don't know if it's just my imagination speaking, or if I have been working on the same track for too long, but I felt like there is some unused degrees of stereo, although I'm doing everything I can to widen the shit out of anything that should be widen, like the bass or the main background rythm synth.
Can someone give me tips on Mastering/Mixing to get wider instruments ? Or if my track ACTUALLY lacks depth ?
Thanks
Here it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXlUXwFctko [Embed]
>>65413792
I used to be really into this type of stuff, sounds good. I actually enjoyed this more than the stuff Perturbator has been releasing as of late.
>>65413519
>>65412799
>NO FUCKING SONG MODE
really nigga??
goddamnit korg...
don't tell me it doesn't sequence up to 64 steps too...
>>65413896
Holy shit man, thanks a lot.
I don't listen to Perturbator much, but Carpenter Brut was a huge inspiration !
>>65413792
I'd brighten the drums a little, with maybe a little amount of reverb (short reverb decay time) to give them some space without turning them into stadium drums.
The reverb alone might be enough to lift the drums but failing that some exciter on the higher frequencies will give your snare some more bite and will help pull the toms a little further to the front too without increasing their level too much - they sound a little sunk back right now.
How do you guys feel about iPad analog synth reproductions? Like Arturia's iMini & iSEM or the iVCS3?
Any recommendations for other apps? I was looking at Sunrizer and thought it looked decent.
I guess people say korg makes good emulations, but I own a hardware MS-20 so I didn't see a point in buying an emulation.
>>65414148
Alright man, I'll keep all that in mind, thanks a lot
>>65412799
Not a Prod guy but I messed with this in my local shop and it was really fun
>>65410339
Best service drums overkill, dorumalaia superdrums, bouncing beats (kick number 1 always ends up being my sub layer for some reason).
>>65407711
It's further back in the mix now ;)
>>65408034
I believe it will always change the sound. There just isn't any such thing as filters sitting end to end that won't start fucking with phase. That's okay though, just make the end product worth it.
I was listening to Computer Magic's Davos album and I really enjoyed the synths. They are so deep and alive and it got me thinking how she and her crew did it.
One of the synths was very old and expensive. I'm asking why not just use software synths? What makes hardware synths so attractive. Is it very difficult to get similar sounds out of a typical computer?
I know there are emulator synths out there. And I've seen how crazy it is to develop an emulator synth. But I'm talking like brand new from scratch instead.
Thanks!
>>65415058
Are you fucking stupid?
>>65415071
Harsh. I'm just hear to learn.
>>65415058
>Computer Magic's Davos
I wasn't familiar with this group, so I checked it out. Here's the good news. It sounds like their sound very much is built around a 80s synth pop foundation (not saying that is their exact genre).
The synths that fueled that era and sound are mostly first or second generation digital synths, with some exceptions. Digital was the new hotness and you had oddballs like the Yamaha DX7, These are probably the easiest to emulate or imitate with modern software.
I'm also hearing some analog synths, probably Moogs (a lot of these basslines), maybe ARP odyssey, etc.
A lot of what differentiates analog hardware synths from their software counterparts are: chiefly the limitations imposed by their circuit design, the oscillators, the filters. These all have a profound impact on the way they sound, and what patches you can construct. Its hard to perfectly emulate analog synths in software, but in many cases you can get "close enough". There is no denying that the degrees of freedom of software synths blows analog synths out of the water (especially the keyboards). One exception being the large modular synths, the sheer number of experimental and oddball modules can certainly push into "unique" territory. But that's not exactly the point. It becomes a question of novelty, does this synth have a novel tone or character, is it a character you HAVE TO HAVE in your song, or isn't it. Sometimes a digital synth is the right one for the job, sometimes a analog synths is the right one for the job.
That's not to say there's not plenty of instances where its hard to tell the difference between analog and digital software synths. There are. But you can also listen to some Roger Troutman or George Duke and KNOW its a moog or an ARP just from hearing the thing.
At the end of the day, all synths have utility, so long as they bring a degree of novelty and character. Whether its an analog modeling soft synth like Diva, or a roland SH-101.
>>65416149
Thank you so much. :-)
I made this yesterday, I appreciate honesty more than anything, and am down to collab if anyone would like.
>>65416826
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJE0fexa2rI
t. weeded
>>65416852
Not a fan of the chipmunk voices but that's a style people like so not really a negative.
I thought the bass was maybe too intense/compressed? I could feel my ear drums moving on normal listening volumes. It wasn't painful but not comfortable either. I think it should be a little bit less intense since the rest of the track is more smooth/mellow.
I don't know anything about music production so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
>>65417116
Yeah it's just a like it or you don't kind of deal,
I'm working on developing bass, but it's one thing I have a bad ear for, admittedly.
Thankyou for the listen though.
>>65412799
this fucking thing
somebody upload an acapella and LET'S START A REMIX CONTEST RIGHT NOW
>>65412861
lmao that intro
>>65416852
this is not very good. it's all out of key with itself, and has no harmonic foundation.
learn some music theory, try to be simple with your sampling, and ughgh jesus christ it's hard to even be positive given how absolutely unlistenable this is
https://clyp.it/2dppn4uu
Will they sign me to Spinnin Records?
>>65406390
I like this idea and would participate. Sound on Sound had a mix competition where everyone could download the same tracks and it was great to see how many approaches were taken/what worked and what didn't.
>>65415071
Unnecessary.
What's the difference between a Focusrite Scarlett and a Saffire pro24? I just want to record my guitar
Synth1 best synth
>>65417965
I concur, synth1 barely uses any cpu.
>>65417942
guys I'm about to make a deal help me make a decision
>>65417942
don't get a scarlett....
seriously you'll be ripping your hair out with the millimeter of headroom you get with those things... the hype on those come from noobs who don't know what they're talking about
anyone know what key this song is in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGdnFoK9Uws
>>65414270
I like to mess around with animoog but so far I can't really see myself integrating the iPad into production. I don't really want to record sounds from it via headphone jack.
>>65418690
Yeah, I enjoy the Steinberg UR22 myself. It seems like focusrite build quality is really hit-or-miss.
>>65418957
god i wish someone had warned me against the endless recommendations.........
https://clyp.it/i43w3cdk
how is the mix on this?
>>65419037
>https://clyp.it/i43w3cdk
there are some shiny sounding pads in there that need their own space carved out. or maybe bring one of them more foward so it sounds more like a layer in the background
also drums need more variation js
>>65417158
>>65416852
sounds like you cut the highs and did this gigantic bump on your kick.........
don't do that man. also bass is way too loud. maybe try saturating a small amount to get some highs in there to hear it better
>>65418723
I'd say at least the first part is in Bb major
I LOVE that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JkAwQlwmI
>>65418690
>millimeter of headroom
could you elaborate, I'm kind of a noob
btw I'm not interested on live performing at all, if that has anything to do
>>65419385
alright so there's a knob that you set your gain with right... pick up less or more, quieter or louder smaller or bigger waveform. if it's too loud your recording distorts. too little gain and you can't hear it though. when you record there's an idea volume you want to be hitting with room for dynamics.
thing is with the scarletts is that there's not very much room for variation in volume. as soon as you can hear yourself, if you get a little louder, your recording distorts and you gotta throw it out. the 2i4 has a pad that prevents that i believe but for the same money you could be getting something different without that issue.
you'll hear a lot of people praising the preamps as being "solid" and whatnot but they're weak and comparatively muddy. i mean they are usable if you come across one very cheap it's just there's better out there like the ur22. if you choose to get one stay away from mics that need a lot of gain like the sm57 (you'll be recommended that a lot too) if you plan on plugging in direct... yeah get something else
check out the discord, talk to some other /prod/ucers and chill
https://discordapp.com/invite/0wV1D4bx328EBFNq
>>65419570
thank you so much. do you think the Saffire pro has that problem too? I'm googling and apparently it doesn't.
will definitely check the ur22 out
Just started this today. What does /prod/ think?
https://clyp.it/hhfdxfco
>>65420447
Yeah, yeah it's sick that, yeah that's good.
Wait hold on a minute, pull it up, stop.
You know what you wanna do with that right? you wanna put a bangin' donk on it!
Can you guys link me some plugins for some classic band instruments? I need some good drumset and electric and bass guitars.
>>65420734
You cheeky wanker. I'll glass you. Innit, bruv.
do you guys know of any southamerican folk instruments vsts?
>>65420055
i've no experience with the saffire pro, if you're willing to spend that much thought maybe check out the id14 or 22 and the tascam uh-7000. those all generally get solid reviews and are a step up.
>>65421100
drum mica (spelling) by senheiser and mt power(?) drummer are free
i've never heard of decent guitar vsts... that scarbee funk guitarist sounds... decent ish
>>65422076
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/drums/cuba/
Is it possible to change a Kontakt instrument/preset mid-track? Like, it's a pain in the ass to have several tracks for different flute articulations.
>>65422076
Why would people make VST's for obscure ethnic instruments? Sounds like a bitch to synthesize
>>65422450
$$$
also they make sample libraries lol
>>65422439
bounce the tracks once you're done composing that part... and keep the midi if you want
Sorry for the dumb question you guys probably get everyday. Is this a good board for beginners? It comes packaged with some bundled software too.
https://youtu.be/rbldOu2DSUE
>>65422620
action is garbage, the preset player it comes with is ass, and the knobs are quite bad.
>>65422785
Well fuck, thanks. I thought it would be good because this dude signed by J. Cole was using it. I figured if a professional is using it, it must be legit. I'll take your word for it though because at that price it's too good to be ture. What's a good alternative under $500?
donk
bimp
>>65422439
It's easy with maschine. You could just trigger changes with maschine to play on your midi controller.
do people actually take this guy seriously
>>65425022
wow what is this
>>65425265
hes some canadian middle aged "metal" producer
half the time he complains about "the damn kids these days with their tattoos" and the other half of the time it's amazing atheist tier rants but his shit gets views and upvotes
>>65425313
name?
>>65409545
Yeah and samples since I don't know jack shit about instruments. Thanks man.
Orchestral piece I'm working for a short film scene, thoughts? FYI I haven't mixed and I know shit about it
https://clyp.it/n1b43mmb
>>65425355
glenn fricker
https://www.youtube.com/user/SpectreSoundStudios
>>65422439
What flute library? Because many of them use keyswitches to change articulations, and that would solve your problem in a relatively elegant way. If you are using Orchestral Tools Berlin Woodwinds, then you are sorta SOL, because each articulation is separated into a different instrument. What I do (in the case of BWW) is load all the Flutes into one kontakt instrument, and give each their own midi channel.
>>65425457
for someone who claims to be great with recording equipment he sure does clip his mics a lot with his screaming
>>65425457
oh god he really is the AA of /prod/
>>65397156
bathing ape used to be THE fucking brand. That and ice cream.
Jesus fuck how nice would it be to sell a generic jacket for 500+ dollars when you made it for 5$ max including shipping.
Second music ever made, tell me what you guys think
>https://clyp.it/nzm51cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtn7mNNqvqA
this is one of the greatest tracks of all time
how come when i try to create music out of random samples from other songs and what not it sounds like shit? as in giberish trash that sounds like nothing musical. how do they do it? is there something more to just cutting out small bits of different songs?
>>65427002
are you taking pitch and key into account? if not then it's no surprise why it sounds like shit lol
>>65427052
should i stay in the same key the song im sampling from? or should i choose like 4-5 notes and tune all my samples to those notes?
>>65427137
lmao STUPID
READ A BOOK YOU FAG
>>65427137
just use your ears m8
you don't need to learn music theory but you just can't go throwing stuff together and expecting it to sound good. you've got to pitch stuff to fit together with other samples lol
>>65427160
>tfw you'll never be a french sampler
>>65427137
you'll probably end up making atonal rap (or whatever you're doing) if you don't know what a scale is, so learn theory
>>65427002
>>65427137
you silly willy, making music out of samples is literally the easiest thing ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb-fowz9AVs
do you guys know about any other series like this? any kind of challenge or just producers fucking around in their studios making music
>>65427306
if i understand a scale correctly its just a bunch of notes that sound good together. Theres tons of scales.
>>65427338
well, I hope you have very good ears then, which apparently you don't
speaking of tuning samples is transposing a good method? or do i need some vst that does it better?
>>65427334
rhythm roulette is kinda similar
just saying I'm up for a mixing/remixing contest. someone upload some stems and let's start this
>>65388929
can i just say i never realized arca is actually a 3.14 qt when hes not trying to project some stupid contrived image wow
>>65427492
maybe next thread
>>65427492
that's been proposed like twice in this thread already (by me)
/prod/ is filled with faggots
>install LMMS
>shittier version of FL
>>65427741
https://soundcloud.com/groups/lmms
this is a kek goldmine
>>65427831
guh
What is /prod/s thoughts on making your own samples? Thinking about loading up Operator and making a few kicks to start off with. Anyone else do this?
>>65427831
it's just so mediocre
hey I'm looking for a video that was posted here a while ago of some dude in the studio doing interpolations of full songs anybody knows what I'm talking about? already tried looking for it in the archive
>>65428096
Yep. I have a few folders just filled with synths and bass hits and such that I've made over the years. My workflow is very kontakt-heavy, and I use it much like you would a synth, due to its outstanding modulation capabilities.
What I'll do for dnb basslines, for instance is 'mine' my soft synths for raw, gnarly oscillating tones. Usually pre-filtering. The idea is, you load these guys into kontakt and kontakt does everything filtering and modulation related.
Essentially, using kontakt like a synth, except the difference is you are outsourcing the 'oscillators' to tones from various synths. So basically I have a big ass folder of interesting tones for later manipulation in kontakt.
For percussion, my created samples are usually the product of layering the best bits of various samples, but I have synthesized some simpler stuff like kicks.
>https://clyp.it/kw3epsjw
made this in 20 minutes haha
>>65428096
recording your own can be cool... resampling from random chaos you make makes sense to me... actually synthesizing kicks is meh. at least not from scratch.
i've only used operator to make a kick once. maybe little bleeps zippy noise and things could be useful but i think doing all your hits is kind of a waste of time... maybe if you need something you can't find elsewhere but otherwise eh.
in the market for a mic. needs to be clear but the quality doesn't have to be insane. want to use it to record and skype w/ friends. is pic related good? thanks.
>Mid of 2016
>Arca still not released Reverie
>>65428096
I've made literally thousands of percussions by resampling. it's so fun.
>>65428395
>https://clyp.it/kw3epsjw
Sure, your normal USB type bullshit mics are fine for what you stated, no problem. Just don't record an album with the god damn thing.
>>65428096
i've always been wary of recording synth sounds for the purpose of resampling because i'm anal about sample rates/fidelity but i've cannibalized the stems from older projects before which was p. cool
>>65428395
what's your budget senpai
>>65428407
>listening to aimless half-baked ableton wankery
>>65428486
ok not sure why you linked that clyp tho
>>65428495
id prefer not to go over 300 and i want the best price/performance
>>65428536
cus oopsie
>>65428495
>half-baked ableton wankery
good half-baked ableton wankery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEcD3G8wAqI
>>65428486
sounds like mixcraft/garageband
>>65428569
I was starting to reply to this guy >>65428249
but fucked it up.
>>65428596
oh, so any feedback then? still a newbie
>>65428608
you didnt actually play any of the instruments did you? this sounds like prerecorded commercial music
>>65428661
Nope, I was just trying out those prerecorded shit, yeah. Practicing a little bit first before going in-depth, but what can you suggest?
>>65428608
You gotta ditch these canned loops. They weren't designed with each-other in mind, and it shows. Just when I think we are going to carry on the theme and progress it, we jump to something unrelated.
I can tell you have an ear for what sounds good, but your 20 minute exercise sounds like a 20 minute exercise. Tell me what you are working with here. DAW and nothing else? What are your resources? What tools do you have at your disposal?
>>65428608
>>65428678
the structure is kinda weird, for a start,
>>65428661
>made in 20 minutes
clearly not
>>65428689
oh and I meant to ask, also- what is the goal. Do you have a specific target in mind? Some artist or song or example you can point towards to help us point you in the right direction?
>>65428689
>>65428710
I only had GarageBand, I'm still downloading FL Studio (slow net connection here) so I thought I would give it a try before going into FL. But yeah, I see your point. I'm going to try gathering some other samples as well.
I wanted to try doing basic things first, but I also want to do some Nujabes-style things.
>>65428697
Yeah, I'll practice more.
>>65428678
ok thats what i thought. you should stop playing around with that because its not going to teach you anything. download a real DAW like FL or ableton and learn to use them. it may be overwhelming at first but it is what it is. i dont know what kind of hardware you have or what instruments you can play but you can write music easily in both especially FL. watch youtube videos and download a lot of instruments and stuff. listen to some of your favorite music and try to replicate some of the sounds they make if you want. i dont know what kind of music you want to make either.
>>65428732
Alright, thanks anon. Still waiting for FL Studio to finish downloading so I can try it out.
>>65428721
It will take time to develop a thoughtful approach to sampling. You are starting from 0, like everyone does. I'm not the expert on Nujabes. But I know this is an artist, similar to flying lotus, in that they sort of attempt to advance the approach to sampling that 90s hip hop pioneered.
Whats in a sample? My pretentious coffee shop hipster answer would be that a sampled drum break (think: James brown funky drummer), or a sampled bass guitar from some old record represents a historical archive of both performance styles, and recording tech through time.
The guys like Nujabes are somewhere between creating a collage of sampled music and entirely new, novel creations.
If you plotted the musical elements sampled in Nujabes, Flying lotus, J dilla, etc, you would see a dense cluster in the 70s, with less hits sprawling out before and after that chunk of time. But really, this is more representative of the vibe and character that the artists were chasing. The drums from a 1975 funk record just sound different (1-3 mics, tape, analog desk) than those recorded with modern (shit loads of mics, careful corrective EQ, extremely high end converters) techniques The drums, the instrumentation, and the recording methods from each decade are unique, and where you sample absolutely has an influence on how your tunes will sound. Don't just sample 1972 soul because so and so does, sample whatever resonates with you. All of these guys, whether its dr. dre or j dilla or whoever, have a profound knowledge of music. To be a crate digger, a sample hunter, you have to.
This is sort of a DRUNK ramble, but basically, You won't know what the fuck you are doing for awhile, and you won't know what your sound is for awhile yet. You discover it. Explore whosampled.com and learn how your favorite artists have used samples to capture vibes in their tunes. And recognize why this is intrinsically different than using Guitar_Gminor_Loop5.wav from garageband.
>>65429010
Thanks anon, this is really useful. I don't really play any instruments as of now (reasons), so I've always thought about sampling instead. The website you gave me will really help. Hopefully I can make worthy music once I've learned.
>>65429070
The most relevant thing that a proper DAW will bring you is something called a sampler, which lets you manipulate sound files. The simplest example of what a sampler may do is let you play a recorded single note on a piano at different pitches (no doubt you are familiar with this concept), but its capability extends far, far beyond this. Most DAWs (fruity loops, ableton, Logic, whatever) have a half-way decent sampler built in, that has this functionality and a whole lot more. It will take a lot of time to really wrap your head around the full feature set.
But the end product is, sound files become your instrument. They can be manipulated in ways that can make it impossible to recognize the original source, or slight creative changes, and somewhere in between.
Once you have gotten a DAW to play with, learn about the functions of the sampler it came with, and try to research related topics it leads you to.
>>65404572
Anyone?
>>65404572
>>65429756
Personally I'm totally on board with this. Subject matter: could have been better. It has sampling potential. Not sure if its enough on its own. I imagine you on a trajectory that leads you to audio / visual sampling.
Here, Let me offer unsolicited inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYX0Aex1iE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRj7-Ymrh5E (90s gold)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdbyYwRfAOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhZ_UygGnN0
i'll never be able to sample like Sebastian. I should just give up and go back to playing guitar
