No fucking way
not even top 1,000
and yes, I have an exhaustive list that I will not post here
>>65332145
Give me 5
No, Stravinsky is.
Even if you were exclusively referring to artists in popular music, there are hundreds of artists who did not resort to putting out childish comedy rock for the majority of their career. Tim Buckley and Don Van Vliet both come to mind.
>>65332089
Hitler was the greatest artist of the 20th century. The 3rd Reich is a masterpiece of conceptual/performance art. And 9/11 is the greatest single work of art of this century.
>>65332246
go back to hell, Stockhausen
>>65332230
You know he was also a genius composer of hundreds of modern compositions? The humour was just a part of it.
>>65332246
XD
funny post Anon
No the man who made this was
just cuz u put out 80 albums of pure WANK (aka "jazz") doesnt mean youre good, let alone the greatest
>>65332230
>implying humor doesn't belong in music
>>65332441
You're right man, I will go drown myself in your shifty bubble gum music. Just because you don't understand anything more than 3 guitar chords doesn't mean it's bad.
>>65332472
humor belongs in music for sure
the best thigns he ever did were freak out, sheik yerbouti, and joes garage in that order
because they were funny
his jazz takes itself too seriously and theres WAYYY too much of it
>>65332504
>3 guitar chords
its massively densely orchestrated you can hardly even hear the guitar
>>65332504
>pop is just shitty 3 guitar chord bubble gum music
>not literally the soundtrack to your life
time to grow up, lad.
>>65332535
What does that even mean?
>>65332576
Stop pretending pop is shitty. It doesn't make you cool.
>>65332441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBT4nMw-Zg
WOW BRILLIANT
>>65332089
He's good, but there were hundreds of better artists
>>65332610
I remember posting pet sounds, not music from the height of his mental illness
>>65332230
Don Van Vliet's most acclaimed work is literally a comedy meme album.
>>65332610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P2V0_p6vE
WOW BRILLIANT
ill give you that its funny but for someone who prided himself on being a compositional mind he relied way too much on improv
How can you even quantify that there are so many great artists
>>65332678
>WOW BRILLIANT
I know, right? Glad you agree with us.
>>65332678
What's wrong with a mix of both? Also, I thought this was a thread for music appreciation. I'm not trying to be cool by hating pop music, but honestly why are you here?
Are Zappafags the most annoying fags? I honestly don't know if there are worse. Maybe TOOL fags. Yeah, TOOL fags come real close.
Zappa is better than Stockhausen.
>>65332509
Something taking itself too seriously is not a legitimate criticism. What matters is whether it's good or not. Compositionally and technically, Zappa's jazz is pretty top-notch.
>>65332678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K9Q6AsiqUk
4 straight minutes of more "music"
>>65332745
Nice job judging an artist by their fan base
>>65332741
i like a mix of both
bands like funkadelic did it rite on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeeYUXjp_ro
>>65332787
yes it is a legit criticism when he sold himself on his humor
its a shame because i think freak out is one of the funniest albums ever after some ween stuff
>>65332793
>what is avant-garde?
>>65332855
what is field recordings passing itself off as brilliant norm-challenging "avant-garde"-ness
i swear that word has done nothing but lowered the bar for music fuck the french
>>65332793
Yeah, you cherry picked his most avant-album, good job. https://youtu.be/qYMRTUet4iI listen to this and tell me it's bad
>>65332839
>yes it is a legit criticism when he sold himself on his humor
[citation needed]
>>65332878
i LOVE his doo-woppy stuff and the jazz influenced rock dont get me wrong
ruben and the jets is one of my favs
its just his output is SOOOO hit or miss
even on his better songs like peaches in regalia i really only like half ish of the song it goes back and forth between pleasant wank and tasteless wank
>>65332089
No, Johnny Rebel was.
I'm not saying I hate Zappa or that all of his music is bad, but the levels of commercial pandering reached in the majority of his music makes claims of Zappa being "the greatest artist of the 20th century" laughable at best.
>>65332319
His orchestral compositions pale in comparison to those of any celebrated composer of the 20th century. On the other hand, the majority of his rock albums are filled with unfunny crude humor and unnecessarily complexity, both of which he admitted were nothing more than attempts at venturing into the mainstream. I'd be embarrassed to claim that he was the best artist of the 20th century, while so many other equally talented artists retained their artistic integrity.
>>65332472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMdhWRO4-dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvAQLiwydrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4hzVpYAP-U
What you'll find in these tracks isn't anything close to well-aimed humor, and I'm not even cherry picking. The majority of his music consists of childish satire with a complete lack of subtlety. It's embarassing that people like Scaruffi would claim this is a significant contribution to the "sexual revolution" (I'm not sure that Scaruffi or Zappa fans have a clue what they're trying to say in defense of this garbage).
>>65332509
His best albums are Freak Out (because of just how influential it is in rock music, rather than the mediocre attempt at satire found in the lyrics) and Hot Rats (because he completely forgoes the gimmicky "avant-garde" tape loops as well as his poor sense of humor).
>>65332675
It's a brilliant fusion of jazz and the blues, but there's no point in attempting to explain that to someone as ignorant as you.
>>65332913
he put out an entire album called "does humor belong in music" and was very vocal in interviews about the fact that it does
Few years back I'd say yes. But I don't know. He's up there, but there's so many good artists.
Don't forget there's a ton of modern composers, like Varise or Stravinsky, both of who influenced Zappa greatly.
>>65332959
the mediocre satire ur bashing is actually what he was best at, he really was not cut out to be a composer
he rushed shit he put out 6 albums in one year once
>>65332978
But he released several serious albums with no lyrics at all.
>>65333025
yea those albums were laughable XD he never stopped including humor in his music
>>65332959
>but the levels of commercial pandering reached in the majority of his music
What are you meaning here? It seems he was being intentionally difficult and attempting to alienate the mainstream for much of his career.
>>65333048
>yea those albums were laughable
How so? (aside form the fact it disproves your logic)
>he never stopped including humor in his music
Do you only listen to the lyrics?
>>65332246
ok thanks
>>65333087
that was a bait response i was implying they were laughable because i dont like them
>>65333122
Why not?
>>65333115
montie GET OUT GO GET OUT DONT COME BACK zappa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>radiohead
why do u have such nu male taste if youre a conservative
>>65333154
the problem with alot of zappa's stuff along with jazz in general is that when its largely based on improvisation, you have seconds of pleasurable music followed by unorganized sounds which is worse then a whole song's worth of organized composed sounds
>>65333202
>pleasurable
Not relevant
>unorganized
A musical scale is not organized?
>>65333275
jazz often doesn't even obey scales
pleasure and enjoyment is very relevant to the way i listen to music, i guess if i decided who was great and what i listened to based on whether or not it would impress people then i could see why it's not relevant
>>65332959
The style of much of Zappa's humor was satire. Whether you agree with it, whether you think its crude, the point is the message it gets across. A lot of Zappa's appeal was his message and personality, of which his humor was a huge part. Because his type of humor was so offensive and crude, you can't really call his more humor-based albums "sell-out" albums.
>>65333338
yea that guys a scaruffi tier pseudo intellectual himself
>>65333324
>jazz often doesn't even obey scales
[citation needed]
>mah subjectivity
Just stop posting anytime
>>65332246
Memes aside, all these things could be true.
>>65333361
Nice opinion, dude.
>>65333398
if youre improvising music, flailing away wildly at saxophone pads or tapping all over a guitar fretboard, you are BOUND to hit notes that are not in the scale you intended on playing
>>65333445
How long have you been playing your instrument?
Reminder Zappa's first album was
>The second double album
>The first use of parody in rock music
>The first rock opera
>The first concept album
>The first use of the studio as an instrument
>Had the first prog rock music
>All in 1966
Literally the most inventive artist in rock history. There is no arguing this.
>>65333437
>>65332959
i was referring to who you were responding to
i love zappa's satire and satire in general
the way he paced humor in accordance with his music was genuinely brilliant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXzteDzazjY
>>65333468
about 4 or 5 weeks ;^)
>>65333473
inventive=/=greatest
>Zappafags
Get out of my board you cringey retards and go back to dadrock rock guitar forum where you belong
>>65333445
Guess that's the difference between professionals (who played with Zappa) and amateurs (who didn't).
>inventive=/=greatest
Good thing Zappa was both
>>65332959
Hey, fucknugget, I like TMR a whole fucking lot. What I don't understand is why you put it on a pedestal even though it has some incredibly childish and "comedic" lyrics while you shit on Zappa for the same thing.
Anything Zappa did after 1970 was terrible but I LOVE his 60s stuff. Pic related is his best and if you hate his "comedy" period you might love it.
>>65333473
Woodie Guthrie and Frank Sinatra both had concept albums before Zappa, but I could see the argument that it was the first conscious concept album rather than a coincidence that all the songs happened to be about the same subject.
>>65333541
I think Scaruffi would beg to differ
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/zappa.html
dude literally has better ratings than any artist ever.
>>65333558
LMAO "professionals"
beefheart was about as untrained musically as they come
oh cant forget about other classically trained geniuses he surrounded himself with like wild man fischer
>>65333549
>dadrock
When will this meme die?
>>65333606
>beefheart
You mean the artist that Zappa mentored and produced?
>>65333606
Name one person who played in the Mothers who wasn't a master of their craft.
I'll wait.
>>65333607
>Zappa
When will this meme end? Oh wait he died on 1993. Good fucking riddance
Daily reminder Captain Beefheart would not exist without Zappa, like, at all.
Eccentric does not mean good or artistic or even contributing
>>65332959
i didn't know scaruffi liked to come on /mu/
>>65333636
zappa and his bandmates with the exception of le gooby fish head man were beyond talented musicians
zappa was not THE GREATEST compositional mind of the 20th century however
hard working and innovative
not THE GREATEST
amazing guitarist
decent composer at best
>>65333669
All more reason to hate him
>>65333673
what does then?
>>65333669
really tmr is the most embarassing mark on zappas career and THE FACT THAT scaruffi enjoys that shit is preposterous
>>65333673
Thanks for telling me what I should consider to be art
>>65333722
>disliking Beefheart
go listen to Grimes my man
>>65333741
You should probably wait until you know more about music to come back to that pal. I suggest stop listening to Chvrches first though.
>>65333751
Listen to him. He's probably smarter than you.
>>65333753
At least grimes can write a cohesive melody you rockist retard
>>65333728
the ability to write TIMELESS classics that can be appreciated as much by your great grandfather as your acid-soaked nephew and get better upon every listen like link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chtmIJ1wYc4
>>65333741
>implying scaruffi enjoys the albums he gives good reviews
>>65333786
HEY LEAVE LAVREN ALONE DONT BRING HER INTO THIS
>>65333803
>waifu fag discrediting my argument
plz dont use the work "rockist" LMAO
>>65332959
>Its a brilliant fusion of jazz and blues
literally zappa
>>65333814
>Walt Disney soundtrack
>Hallmark Greeting Card lyrics
>crappy sounding mix
no thanks
>>65333473
there is literally no arguing this. Zappa contributed more to music with one album than any artist ever, save maybe the Velvet Underground.
>>65333803
>grimes
>cohesive melody
maybe if you like the p4k flavor of the month artists only, then yes. Go listen to more industry plugs my dude. How's your waifu thread going?
>>65333814
I don't like Zappa's later stuff, but I would argue his 60s output is much more timeless than that of most of the Beach Boys, which is pretty exclusive to that era, while Zappa's stuff can always be traced back to albums created today directly.
>>65333871
zappa looks like a muppet tbqhwu famalam
>>65333884
i dont disagree
>>65333880
>disney soundtrack
like fantasia?
>hallmark greeting card lyrics
never remember buying a birthday card with a message referencing a bad lsd trip
>crappy sounding mix
its an unreleased version of the song why don't u just look up the remastered version
also the mix does not reflect the artist's compositional ability
>>65333943
>referencing a bad lsd trip
What song are you referring to? Sloop JB is an old folk song.
>why don't u just look up the...
I shouldn't have to. Your argument should be self sufficient, shouldn't it?
>also the mix does not reflect the artist's compositional ability
Who produced the album again?
Face it. Pet Sounds is just Christmas music for frogposters and feelguys.
>>65333943
>the mix does not reflect the artist's compositional ability
It does in Zappa's case, who would often mix all of his own material thank you
>>65332230
>Stravinsky
no thank you
>>65333883
>>65333849
At least grimes doesnt hide her music with petty experimentation. aimless noodling, and weak satire like Zappa and Beefheart
Her music is more honest than theirs
>>65333814
>the ability to write TIMELESS classics that can be appreciated as much by your great grandfather as your acid-soaked nephew and get better upon every listen like link related
Then I know someone who has Brian "Sandbox" Wilson beat.
>>65334026
I don't think you get the "point" of experimentation, pal. Plus even if you don't like Zappa, he's influenced far more music than any others, including Grimes. Thanks.
>Her music is more honest than theirs
If you think "honest" is something created by indie marketing teams, sure
>>65333992
referencing "hang on to your ego" later retitled "i know theres an answer"
pet sounds is the most cohesive and personal pop album of all times it really should be a part of the classical cannon
>>65333997
any version of his stuff you'll find today is remixed and remastered by someone else
unless you have original pressing vinyls you're not listening to his mix
were trying to find out whos the greatest artist of the 20th century here not the best audio engineer
(steve albini btw)
>>65334026
>Beefheart using satire
>Also implying satire isn't honest
Christ
>>65333676
If I were Scaruffi, I'd actually be dumb enough to believe that Zappa was more important than any significant 20th century composer. Scaruffi is a clueless hack who only pretends to appreciate classical music.
>>65333597
The majority of TMR didn't feature crude lyrics about sex for the sake of controversy. I won't deny that much of what Beefheart sings on that album is meaningless, but the lyrics themselves are not the focus of the album.
>>65333871
Zappa fused jazz and progressive rock, the later of which is laughably excessive and self-indulgent as a genre. Zappa never had anything close to the voice of the Captain, and the Mothers weren't anywhere close to the Magic Band in technical proficiency.
>>65334094
>part of the classical cannon
now you're just meming
>>65334061
OMG this fucking hack JUST STOP
NOT EVEN A MUSICIAN HES A POET WITH A GUITAR
dylan is a fucking J O K E get the fuck out you fell for a shitty lefty meme HARD
>>65334026
>people defending grimes in a music thread
>>65334121
give it 50 years and it will be
>screenshot this
>>65334094
>"hang on to your ego"
Not familiar with that song on Pet Sounds. Perhaps you are mistaken.
>pet sounds is the most personal pop album of all times
Oh did Brian Wilson write all the lyrics about himself?
>any version of his stuff you'll find today is remixed and remastered by someone else
[citation needed]
>>65334094
I do have the original mixes, though, and they sound fine. Including the censored version of woii4tm and the one Zappa mixed later.
>>65334117
>Mothers weren't anywhere close to the Magic Band in technical proficiency
I love the magic band, but this is blatently not true, especially since the Mothers contained the magic band on several occasions. Literally over 30 people who were all masters of their craft, it's not really even a close competition.
You should probably listen to more Zappa than his 70s/80s output, pal.
>>65334122
>NOT EVEN A MUSICIAN
Oh he doesn't play guitar, piano and sing?
>>65334117
>the Mothers weren't anywhere close to the Magic Band in technical proficiency.
Now that's just plain wrong
>>65334181
>HURR DURR NOT FAMILIAR
as you read, it was released as "i know theres an answer" with the drug references omitted
>did brian
yes
his entire catalogue was remastered and rereleased in 2012
>>65334218
youre using the words "play" and "sing" VERY LOOSELY
>>65334087
grimes IS a more honest musician with a 10/10 voice. I don't care what you say. It's fact. Art Angel was the most forward-thinking album of this year and Lord knows what her next album will be like.
>>65334096
same shit to me tbhonest
>>65334122
Choke my cock. Gives grimes twenty years and she will be bigger and more influential than Zappa and Beefheart combined
>>65334278
why do you keep calling her honest
that just means untrained
she says she has NO plans on learning theory
she will never be influential on anyone but other talentless hacks who think they can just buy a keyboard and become famous quirky indie stars
>>65334278
this proves that anyone who dislikes Zappa is a try-hard troll. Thanks.
>>65334355
this kid is underrage not a try hard
>>65334379
also very obvious. Anyone who dislikes Zappa is obviously just too young.
>>65334315
>>65334355
>>65334379
>>65334435
Im done with debating with you imbeciles. You show nothing but intolerance to beautiful invigorating music. The only advice I can give you is listen to Art Angels with an open-mind and tell me im wrong about her.
Please don't even bother reply to this post if you're going to spout some ingrate dumb shit. I WILL be right about her.
>>65334274
Not really
>>65334245
>with the drug references omitted
OK then we'll try this again:
What are the LSD references in the album Pet Sounds
>yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Asher
>his entire catalogue was remastered and rereleased in 2012
You mean the ones that reverted to his original vinyl mixes? Yes I know.
You're not doing so well anon. You should probably stop posting.
>>65334540
guys he will be right about her screenshot this
and send it to her so she fucks him
>>65334573
i was wrong about the lyrics and mixing BUT were both of those are irrelevant when talking about compositional skill
>>65334583
Dont reply to my post please
>>65334626
Nice goalpost shifting
At least you admitted you're wrong though.
>>65334643
>>65334540
REPLYING REPLYING REPLYING REPLYING
GUYS IM REPLYING TO HIS POST
HE TOLD ME NOT TO REPLY
ILL REPLY TO ALL HIS POSTS
>>65334278
>>65334026
>>65333803
willing to bet money on the fact that you are a pudgy short virgin
>>65332246
Stockhausen go back 2 Darmstadt
>>65334692
my argument from the beginning has been that you should rate an artist based on their compositional mind
zappa was more balanced, as he was skilled on the guitar and piano amongst other instruments presumably, was a good producer who brought the best out of people with not much to offer *ahem* beefheart *ahem* and remained productive for much longer than brian, who really did have a tiny window when he was great
but to me that window outshines a long diverse career pet sounds is a knockout zappa threw a million jabs
>>65334707
This is all the proof I need that zappafags are asshole bullies who love bullying people who actually enjoy music
>>65333473
>The first rock opera
what is S.F. Sorrow by The Pretty Things or The Story of Simon Simopath by Nirvana (UK)?
>>65333803
>at least Grimes can do this thing that she bases her music on that Beefheart doesn't try to do
do you also criticize Grimes for not being able to play jazz drums?
>>65334797
>bullying
go find a safe space
i was the one shitting on zappa in favor of pet sounds
i guess someone really is an actual short fat pudgy virgin
hope i didnt trigger you too hard
>>65334786
>my argument from the beginning has been that you should rate an artist based on their compositional mind
Why?
>but to me that window outshines a long diverse career pet sounds
You mean a tiny window when he was great?
>>65334909
>why
because theres tons of skilled instrumentalists and not that many great composers, and even though the song structure on most of brian's stuff is simple its brilliantly arranged
i would consider pet sounds and smile that tiny window yes
ITT: people who like Frank Zappa (high schoolers) arguing that he's the most influential artist of the 20th century and being shut down by people who think Stravinsky or Varese is because they're college students who used to be into Zappa and have only heard of those two composers to pull out as their true trump card in discussions such as this
embarrassing af famalam
>>65335008
>its brilliantly arranged
So was Zappa's.
Also Wilson NEEDED Asher or Van Dyke Parks. Zappa did not. That shows you he's not as great as you say.
>i would consider pet sounds and smile that tiny window yes
Then it really disqualifies him based on the fact that it was so short lived.
Also smile wasn't even finished so it really doesn't count, does it?
>>65333751
I'm not telling you what art is, but what you should see as a fact.
If you like Zappa than fine, but don't be deluded about his minor contribution or his actual merits(though he was a great technical performer).
>>65333728
The ability to create a piece that could be takes seriously by anyone.
It seems like Zappa did not know if he wanted to be a comedian or a musician and unfortunately he failed as both.
>>65335112
Van Dyke Parks helped Wilson with lyrics and a few small details of arrangement, and all that only on one record. Wilson's legacy was built on Pet Sounds, no matter what music nerds will try to tell you, so your argument falls apart a lot here. You won't get an argument from me that Wilson is a better arranger/composer than Parks, because I personally think he demonstrated him to completely run circles around all the other west coast American rock musicians of his era, but in this matter, you're just pulling this argument out of your ass.
>>65335163
Non sequitur but lets break it apart:
>Wilson's legacy was built on Pet Sounds
Ooops you forgot about Tony Asher again! Haha so silly!
>but in this matter, you're just pulling this argument out of your ass.
Like "jazz is bad because of the possibility of playing a wrong note whole wanking"?
>>65335163
this guy is not the original pet sounds poster his argument is bad
>>65335112
this is a good argument u have me stumped
i would just argue that smile is great despite being unfinished so it counts even more
Arnold Schoenberg
Alban Berg
Anton Webern
Richard Strauss
Igor Stravinsky
Dimitri Shostakovich
Jean Sibelius
Alexander Scriabin
Iannis Xenakis
Luigi Nono
Gyorgy Ligeti
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Tony Conrad
La Monte Young
Angus MacLise
John Cale
Lou Reed
Nico
Captain Beefheart
Olivier Messiaen
John Cage
Christian Wolff
John Coltrane
Miles Davis
Charlie Parker
Louis Armstrong
Bill Evans
Cecil Taylor
Albert Ayler
Sofia Gubaidulina
Alfred Schnittke
the list can continue to go on
>>65335277
he could have gotten by without ashers help
im really sure he could have written lyrics if he tried, asher was just there to do it
>>65335281
>despite being unfinished
In that case I can count any unfinished Zappa material I want! How about we choose Sinister Footwear.
>>65335287
avant-teen coming through watch out everybody
>>65335301
>n-no I can totally do this I j-just don't wanna!
>>65335337
>Sinister Footwear.
probably the worst and most unpleasant example of wank you could have presented
>>65335360
>i-i'm already an established musician with elder professionals recognizing my talent and offering to help me m-mmaybe i should let them
>>65335365
>I can't understand the structure so it's just wank
>>65335396
Reminder that Brian needed Mike Love to write lyrics, and it was Love's lyrics which made the Beach Boys commercial enough to be famous in the first place.
Zappa didn't need shit.
>>65335396
>>65335277
>>65335162
discrediting brian based on the fact that someone wrote lyrics (the worst lyrics on the album btw) on two songs is like discrediting him for hiring session musicians
>>65335064
sounds like you're speaking from experience more than anything
emberrassing af famalam
>>65332246
underrated, best post ITT
>>65332230
You don't know shit about Zappa.
No Radiohead. Kid A was the ultimate peak of and conclusion to 20th century music.
>>65332959
You also don't know anything about anything at all.
>>65333011
Dude, he was a master at composing, but oops I forgot I'm on a board where people don't know anything about music at all.
>>65335287
Albert Ayler is a meme you retard.
>>65334802
S.F. Sorrow came out in 1967.
The Story Of Simon Simopath came out in 1968.
Freak Out came out in 1966.
You fucking faggot.
>>65335287
>Arnold Schoenberg, Alban Berg, Anton Webern, Richard Strauss, Igor Stravinsky, Dimitri Shostakovich, Jean Sibelius, Alexander Scriabin, Iannis Xenakis, Luigi Nono, Gyorgy Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Tony Conrad, La Monte Young, Angus MacLise, John Cale, Lou Reed, Nico, Captain Beefheart, Olivier Messiaen, John Cage, Christian Wolff, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Louis Armstrong, Bill Evans, Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler, Sofia Gubaidulina, Alfred Schnittke, the list goes on...
>>65335287
>Nico
come on
>>65336557
yea really she didnt even play an instrument
the nico solo albums are basically cale albums with her on vocals
>>65335501
>discrediting brian based on the fact that someone wrote lyrics
He can't be "the greatest composer" if he can't do it himself, now can he?
>on two songs
What are you referring to here?
>>65336183
Freak Out isn't an opera though.
>>65336573
>the human voice isn't an instrument
>>65337159
A pretty shitty one though.
>>65337178
Hers or the human voice in general?
>>65337311
Hers.
He is the greatest public artist who ever lived, guy. He's even better than nietzsche or all of theology, brueh. The zapp is god, lennon is jesus. Fuck eric. fuck you, eric.
>>65337548
Yeah she's an inessential racist cunt
Captain Beefheart
Zappa made bad music and was a total faggot, this is pretty undeniable
>>65338117
So, not undeniable at all, it is.. Checkmate, optimusprimo.
>>65338117
I deny it.
This threads proves /mu/ has been infected by the /v/ mentality, people here are making arguments against Zappa when they clearly haven't listen to one single album, all you're doing is hating something you don't know.
Anyway Zappa is the best rock musician for sure.
>>65332089
>I'm not left handed
