Post an acclaimed album you don't "get", and other posters will explain why they enjoy them
I'll start
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it's pretty and therapeutic
>pic related
The song writing and song structures are really uninteresting and unoriginal to my ears
>>65283971
It's very cinematic. I listen to it with my eyes closed; the swelling of the drones is like a gentle tide and it develops slowly across the record. I like the use of guitars and other strings to make each drone, rather than the computer-generated drone typically found in the genre - it feels more alive and vivid because of it.
>>65283971
I love that album because i can simply relax, lie down, close my eyes, shut down my brain for two hours and forget ther's a whole world outside my room or wtvr it is the location i'm listening to said album.
>>65283971
Acclaimed by who?
>>65283993
it feels like being hung-over with dirty clothes, drenched in whisky but filled by a sudden sweep of passion. beautiful, unusual percussion. hilarious vocals.
>>65284005
Do you like anything off that album? I don't love it either, but When You Sleep and Come In Alone are great songs to me. The melodies are great.
My least favorite autechre album. I feel like it lost the organic feel of draft and confield, and a lot of it sounds really cheap and artificial to me.
>>65284025
RYM, /mu/, critics, etc.
>>65284005
>The song writing and song structures
if that is all you care about then Loveless isn't for you. Pay more attention to the guitar tones and textures.
>>65284034
it's beautiful and atmospheric and has some of the greatest songs of all time on it
>>65284113
your probably just too old
>>65284005
It's less about the songs and more about the sounds. I love the cloak of distortion and fuzz, it makes the songs sound like hazy memories from long ago.
>>65284030
This is more for the gritty dark alleys of the city cinescape that it creates. In 1967 New York was THE place to be, and a lot of music reflected that; TVUN explores the dark underside. I enjoy the drones and violins to add the "muck" to the record, and it feels raw and twisted from all the rough experimentation it laces in with the foreign influences, the noise etc.
>>65284096
I do like really like the guitar sounds and can appreciate that that element is pretty novel, but it isn't enough to carry an album for me, and the actual songs are pretty mediocre honestly
>>65284047
Yeah I can dig bits of it, When You Sleep is probably my favourite, but see above
>>65284005
Listen to it high or not at all
>>65284113
It's just deep enough for artsy teenagers to latch onto before moving on to greater things. TOP are turning the masses patrician.
>>65284084
Can't help you with anything but Nico. I mean come on how can you listen to All Tomorrow's Parties and not see they were geniuses?
>>65284277
Ha, I was just posting an example of some charts. I like several of those albums.
>>65284025
*whom
I only really like the longer tracks on this album
>>65284171
The composition is fantastic, all of the musicians playing on this album REALLY knew how to play their instruments. This is definitely a feel album, you have to be in the right mood to enjoy it.
>>65284397
What mood would that be? Also what's the most accessible track?
>>65283971
Yo this is one of my fav albums of all time. Just gonna say, it's rly hypnotising, but the problem is you can't really judge stuff like drone, ambient, minimalism etc against the normal standards of music. It's all mood and atmosphere, so if that particular atmosphere doesn't appeal to you (or if that's just straight up not what you're looking for in music) then I don't think you'll have a good reaction to it.
Also I think you have to be very self-absorbed to be able to be truly engaged by 2 hours of ambient drone. Becuase really all there is to think about in that headspace is yourself. Just go to RYM and you will see pages and pages of some of the most cunty 5* reviews ever. If this music speaks to you, I reckon it generally speaks to you on a very personal level that doesn't translate well when describing it to others. In fact, I'm probably coming across as a cunt right now! Which is why even though I love it, I rarely discuss this album
>>65284191
theres nothing to get. that album is just shit
>>65284441
Blue in Green probably? I also think it's one of the best Jazz compositions ever
>>65284468
Don't worry about it, your writing is fine. My problem might just be going on /mu/ while trying to listen to it, which probably breaks the flow of it. I have liked ambient before, like SAW Volume 2, but it's hard to get in the spirit for it.
>>65284511
I'll give it another try then, thanks.
>>65284441
So close to being trips...
I would say Blue in Green would be the most accessible track, being that it is short and is very straightforward in its structure.
Mood wise? I definitely think this is an album you would want to listen to after being out all day. Come home, kick off your shoes and relaxing.
>>65284468
> It's all mood and atmosphere, so if that particular atmosphere doesn't appeal to you (or if that's just straight up not what you're looking for in music) then I don't think you'll have a good reaction to it.
No shit Sherlock. That applies to all music out there.
>>65284623
Quads, fuck.
>>65284511
How much jazz do you actually listen to?
>>65284671
Don't be a dick, your mood affects enjoyment of slow and atmospheric music way more than it does for other genres.
>>65284191
It's well produced, has a cohesive sound, blends its influences really nicely, the best songs are really well-written pop and even the half-baked ones like Easily and Belly of the Beat sound pretty.
It suffers from having by far the 2 worst songs (California, Scream) shoved right after the intro, from being made by an established indie artist and thus being dubbed as a sellout, and from being made by a woman - always a no-no on /mu/
>>65284005
Pro tip: it's not about song writing or song structures, it's about tone and texture
Bonus tip: most popular music follows unoriginal song structures and song writing styles
>>65284694
Loads
>>65284530
Try listening to "Avec Laudenum" from Stars of the lid. It has the same mood as "The Tired Sounds of", but it's much shorter.
Listen to it a couple of times, let it grow on you. If you enjoy it, you will be ready for the lenghty albums.
>>65284709
It's shoegaze that doesn't forget to have fun or jam the fuck out
Rather than play pretend at beijg deep and mysterious like My Blody Hacks, it's just a jammer of an album with phenomenal musicianship
The Album isn't bad by any means. It is arranged very nicely, the bassist and drummer are very tight, and the guitar flourishes sound great. However, I just can't listen to it. I don't know why, but I can't.
>>65284737
I'm sure you do. You have such precise reasons for liking Kind of Blue.
I kinda like it but I feel like I should love it way more
>>65284698
>feel like killing myself, can't cope with life
>hmm, let's put on some bubblegum pop and enjoy it, because apparently mood doesn't affect this genre so much
>>65284790
What do you mean, "can't listen to it"? Have you heard the whole thing?
>>65284829
Do you know how pop music works, or what hooks are?
>>65284812
that's the problem...you were far too much hyped and had too much expectations. That's a recipe for disaster.
>>65284812
All the songs are connected; it's an album about separation from others and the darkness that follows isolation
Literally the entire album careens tiwards those final minutes of Good Morning Captain
I MISS YOU
add in the fact that it literally spawned genres, you've got perfection
>>65284139
That's understandable. If you value song structure and writing above textures and tones then you will probably never appreciate Loveless, and there is nothing wrong with that.
>>65284671
Of course all music has a mood and atmosphere, but lots of people don't look SOLELY for mood in music, they look for melodies, hooks, lyrics, varied or skilled instrumentation, and usually most importantly, songwriting (either progressive or poppy)
Tired Sounds of SotL really has none of this (well, of course there are some kind of melodies, but they are short and incredibly repetitive) - it's really 2 hours of looped noises. They're very beautiful, finely crafted and compiled noises, but they are still 'just' noises nonetheless, and as such the emphasis is almost entirely on the mood as opposed to any other aspect of songcraft. This is why many people would turn their nose up at it
>>65284885
I forced myself to listen to the whole album, but the whole time I just wanted to turn it off.
>>65284801
What are you talking about? I'm not the guy who mentioned the mood or whatever
Check out my chart bitch
>>65284974
>the list goes on: the chart
>>65285010
Defending myself here
Bennie Maupin, Keith Jarrett, Terje Rypdal, and Freddie Hubbard (kinda) are not 'list goes on Jazz artist'; I'd wager you haven't even heard them
>>65284927
I can't help you if that's all, it sounds like you expected instant gratification and got impatient. Alternatively, you could listen to a few select songs like Paranoid Android, Karma Police (the most accessible), or Lucky and see what it is you don't like.
>>65284974
>no Francis Bebey
>no Art Ensemble of Chicago
>no Amon Duul II
>no Silver Apples
Dropped
>>65285048
d/w I was just being mean because I can
I like a lot of those tbqh :^)
>>65284790
give it more listens
it's entry level for music
>>65283971
it's the perfect balance of progression and drone. the notes don't overstay their welcome and it's varied enough that I don't feel like I'm struggling to get through it. that being said, there's something more beautiful about drawing out those notes rather than playing them quicker in succession.
>>65284005
i never really pay attention to lyrics in general, but the vocals and their pacing works great in tandem with the layers of mild distortion. the sounds are imperfect but there's even more to listen to when you look through the holes
>>65284374
the album does get cumbersome after a while, so I can see why people might not like it. I think of the album as a more bitter side of folk. the drone isn't lively but rather dark and psychedlic like time machines, but then throughout the album there are sweeter more traditional folk music scattered throughout. it's bittersweet, and sometimes the album loses focus and kind of just fades, but it still loosely serves that purpose
>>65283971
That's actually what I was gonna post. I like drone a lot, but that feels so bland that I can't enjoy it.
>>65285074
Not heard enough Bebey, would I dig it?
Art Ensemble are pretty wicked but don't love love love everything they've done
Amon Duul II is Top 100
Silver Apples are great but not THAT great
>>65284082
i haven't listened to it yet, but I'm pretty sure this is the last autechre album I'm gonna check out. I think I've listened to one or two tracks before and it's incredibly alien to me
>>65283971
>>65285300
I meant are Top 100, not is. I like Tanz der Lemminge over Yeti tho
>>65285300
Arthur Russell is the white less talented Francis Bebey
>>65285367
Big words my friend
>>65283971
>>65285050
Well, lets backtrack through some of my favorite albums. Early on in highschool I was listening to 70's - mid 80's Rush, Boston and the entire Yes library along with S.O.A.D and classic thrash metal. Junior and Senior year it was the Allman Bros, Jefferson Airplane, The Police, Municipal Waste, Deep Purple, The Stones, King Crimson, Cream, Crosby Stills and Nash, Simon and Garfunkel, and early Genesis. Nowadays I still listen to over half that list, and recently I discovered Jethro Tull, ELP, and The Monkees. There are many more, but those bands are the big ones that I can name off the top of my head. Radiohead REALLY deviates from this collection of sounds, so it makes sense that I can't get into it as fast as I could the others.
>>65284812
I was like that at first. Listen to it some more and hopefully it will click.
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>>65285508
The thing is, I and a lot of other people weaned themselves off of classic rock with Radiohead, and specifically OK Computer. You don't need a transitional band to enjoy them, but if you feel like it might help I guess you could try Pixies or Nirvana since they influenced Radiohead some.
>>65285340
I love the warmth and the progression on it. All songs flow like a river, constantly changing and evolving. Listen to it some more and really pay attention to the instruments.
>>65285487
I dig it's raw sound and the tension built by all these 'random' noises, the drummer etc.
And Book of saturday and exiles are pretty beautiful and easy to get into
>>65285487
I think that the textures on mood on the opening track are spacey and mellow, then when Fripp's guitar comes crashing in it's wonderful. Some nice ballads and rockers on here, also, along with crescendos on some of the songs that sort of anticipate post-rock, I think. This album is a little bit shapeless and sprawling in a way that stuff like Red, or In the Court of the Crimson King or Discipline aren't, and thus it may come off unfocused but this is what it makes it so compelling for me.
>>65284171
I think to understand this record you have to have some appreciation/knowledge of what it represents for modal jazz. Rather than chord progressions and solos working off of those chord changes, this focuses upon a given mode (modes are not scales, exactly, but they can be understood in a similar way I believe) and the music is built around that sort of structure. Due to this it can be quite understated as the musicians are more laid back and are creating a mood or atmosphere throughout the songs, rather than fiery solos like you'll see on a Charlie Parker album.
As for the music, the melodies are so beautiful and welcoming in a relaxed sort of way. It's just interested in producing a different sort of content, really.
>>65285799
it's funky as shit
>>65285557
Oh god, the band that has been the butt of many musical jokes is considered patrician? I could never get into Nirvana. That was one phase that escaped me in early adolescence. Many of my friends were huge Nirvana fans, playing it in the car or at the house when we were hanging out. Can't stand it.
>>65285799
>>65285861
truuu
if you can't jam to side a you have no soul
side b is kinda bullshit tho
I never got all the hubbub about Doolittle.
>>65285897
They get meme'd on a lot but Cobain was a great songwriter and their music is worth listening to. They aren't considered "patrician" but that's a meaningless label. I just suggest them because they're a common stepping stone for those who want to get into modern music. 90s mainstream rock just might not be for you, but there are plenty of other great bands (even rock) that you might enjoy from that time.
>>65284096
Those are what is known as fluff.
>>65285956
The hooks and vocal harmonies between Black Francis and Kim Deal. If you don't dig them it won't be your thing.
>>65285799
Incredible repetitive and spacey rhythms, Damo's vocals and improv brilliance caught on tape.
>>65285922
yeah. every krautrock album is required by law to have a puttering-around-in-the-studio track
>>65285861
>>65285922
maybe it just needs more relistens
Only Mushroom clicked for me so far
>>65285934
It's really easy to relate to if you're melancholy and young, and the lyrics are a big part of the appeal. Give "I Know It's Over" another listen.
If you haven't heard Meat Is Murder, though, listen to that. I think it's several times better than The Queen Is Dead.
>>65286057
you should probably try Ege Bamyasi first if you haven't
>>65284191
This album is just straight up mediocre
>>65284694
Shit, called out
>>65285349
doom's rhymes are just jaw-dropping and he flows so uniquely on every beat, and madlib's sample choices and instrumentals are distinct and creative. The album also carries themes throughout and crafted its own sound and atmosphere.
>>65286116
alright, will do
thanks famalam
>>65286553
Listen to it a few times, I started enjoying it more just due to familiarity. Also, pay more attention to the songs. Even in the more straightforward ones there's something neat going on you may be missing. Most accessible tracks are Venus and the title track, I would say.
>>65284895
This.
>>65285799
This to be honest. Their contemporaries did this way better.
>>65283993
It's equal parts spooky, atmospheric, and emotional. The first half is like a deranged preacher yelling through a torrential downpour, which rolls into a city gutter for the dirty blues center, and ultimately ends in sorrowful self-reflection.
>>65284005
This is the sound of a broken heart. It's just perfect for what it is in every way.
>>65284034
Beautiful atmosphere. Great for unfulfilled love and break-ups.
>>65284038
>being hung-over but filled by a sudden sweep of passion
This is a fairly accurate description of Tom Waits' music.
>>65285854
I don't think that many people has knowledge for modal jazz, yet Kind of Blue is one of the most popular jazz albums of all time.
>>65284790
Great guitar work from Jonny Greenwood, perfectly arranged songs. Also, it has a very good portrayal of modern life and alienation imo.
>>65285340
>>65285799
It's FUN
>>65285487
The more progressive rock you listen, the more you'll appreciate this record I assure you.
>>65286654
There isn't a single krautrock group as tight and funk-influenced as Can
>>65286654
>Their contemporaries did this way better.
Who? Amon Düül II? Faust? Embryo? I disagree.
>>65286909
>>65286931
Not the explicitly funky stuff, which I understand is why the majority of people like the album: It's fun, funky, and crazy. I'm probably just boring because it doesn't do anything for me. If I wanted to listen to a jam session I'd listen to Amon Duul II or Amon Duul I. If I wanted to listen to some dude scream crazy over instruments I'd listen to Ash Ra Tempel's Schwingungen, at least that album has a concept.
>>65283993
It's a bit overrated due to the inconsistent quality of the tracks, but his voice works well with the minimal instrumentation and percussive emphasis to give the music a dark atmosphere. Imagine yourself in a dimly lit bar in an anonymous foreign city while listening to it. It isn't for everyone.
>>65286997
>he doesn't listen to funk
You soulless whitey
Please get some James Brown, Ohio Players, Funkadelic, Meters, and Isley Brothers in your life
>>65286957
chill af
really the only aphex i care for besides the meme singles
i am 2basic2live tho so feel free to disregard my opinion
>>65286957
This album SPAWNED the electronic IDM movement as you know it today
And some tracks were composed by Richard when he was a teen in the 80s
It's amazing
>>65286957
The appeal is the lush analog synths and drum machines. It's gear nostalgia but it's very soulful as well. Keep in mind what techno sounded like in the '80s and early '90s and Richard was recording this kind of stuff in his bedroom with synths he heavily circuitbent before anybody else sounded like that.
>>65284082
I don't know how to explain the appeal to this one beyond the intricate rhythms and the good synth progressions. Unlike Confield and their later stuff, this album was sequenced manually instead of generative sequencing. Maybe you just need to listen to it more.
I like jazz, but this album just doesn't make sense to me at all
In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
So, please
>>65287193
It's loose, it's free, it's fun. It's free jazz meets Moanin' era Art Blakey and making a lovely in between
>>65286553
interesting rhythms between the guitar parts, amazing drumming, verlain's lyrics, etc. just listen closely to the main 'riff' (aka the first like 10 seconds) of the title track.
>>65284812
The album is all about buildup and release. Each of the tracks just fucking builds and builds until you think it's going to explode, and some of them do, some of them save it.
Also make sure to home in on the lyrics. Just because they're being whispered under loud guitars and drumming doesn't mean they're not worth listening to.
Maybe listen to it without Washer and see how you enjoy it.
>>65284139
>and the actual songs are pretty mediocre honestly
>>65287224
great lyrics with consistent themes. not musically complex, but a nice variety of instruments
>>65284790
Can't be arsed repeating myself so this is what I said last time
>>65287214
It's just such a beautiful fucking album (song?..). Just listen to how all the sounds slowly progress, how the melodies come and go in different stages of the whole thing, it genuinely sounds like you're listening to seasons changing only through music, fucking otherworldly experience
>>65283971
Listening to drone music and focusing fully and exclusively on the music and the color of the sound puts you in a bit of a meditative state. It's also great background music if you just want to relax at more of a subconscious level, say you're stressed out and doing work or whatever.
>>65284113
Acclaimed?? Twenty one pilots are fucking awful.
>>65284812
It clicked on my fourth time. I thought it was okay/"good" at best but then all of a sudden it just clicked and I shit myself
this guy right here.
