If Trump gets in will it be a repeat of the early 2000s with all the DUDE GEORGE BUSH LMAO punk bands?
>>65269791
Normal pop music and quirky sjw pop will be like that too. Hip hop's the only popular genre that won't give much of a shit.
1. Trump elected
2. Israel takes Gaza
3. Iran bombs Israel
4. Trump nukes Iran
5. ?
>>65269791
Nope, more like Ronald Reagan time again. Many punk bands in the 80's message has always been anti-Reagan and I speculate if Trump wins the election that the influence will be based on him.
>>65269844
>jellobiafratryingtostayrelevant.jpg
>>65269791
Yes and they'll be even more justified
>>65269835
nobody is going to be nuking anybody you stupid shit now stfu
>>65269844
>>65269864
>implying that 80's "protest" punk wasn't the best.
Even though, Nazi Trump Fuck Off (it's real) is a bit of a stretch.
>>65269791
I can't tell if Franco Un-American is supposed to be making fun of liberal hippie pseudo intellectual activists or if it's a serious song.
Oi Oi Oi!
>>65269980
Nazi Punks Fuck Off actually isn't about racist skinheads. It's about jocks who would show up to punk shows to get in fights and didn't really "get" it.
>>65269948
Trump said he wouldn't even take nuking Europe off the table so I'm pretty sure nuking Iran is a reasonable scenario.
Trump is very pro-Israel and very pro-violence
>>65270052
I think it's more 50/50, the 50 being, about actual nazi punks, who though that California Uber Alles and Kill the Poor were both serious.
>>65269791
Thank god, and so they should. There has never been a time where art has been so politically muted, in a time when we need it the most
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cy0hK8uBQ4
>>65269835
>5. ?
probably nothing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_Iran
>>65270109
cringe/10
>>65270185
>caring about anything is cringy
>>65270238
Thinking politics have any place in music is alpha cringelord territory
>>65269791
>not wanting Donald Trump
>2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOAifG-mc1I
>>65270303
I agree. Everyone acts like trump is a joke and isn't going to win.
I can't wait until all the cux and SJWs eat each other when he wins
>>65270274
Hardly. All art is political, art for arts sake with no meaning either socially or politically is of little value desu. Man by nature is political, why shouldn't art reflect that?
>>65270331
Yeah I also can't wait for Trump to win, then the rest of the world can stop taking US seriously.
>>65270354
>then the rest of the world can stop taking US seriously
There are many people around the world that do not take the US seriously, even b4, even now and in the future
>>65270331
and then what? trump makes america 'great again' and all the sjw's have no reason to bitch anymore?
guy has no plans, no policy, backflipped on everything that attracted people to him in the first place.
>>65270368
Yeah that's why US is still the most influential country in the world, even if it lost its primacy in almost everything.
>>65270370
MAKE DRUMPF GREAT AGAIN
>>65269791
i have a sort of hard time seeing much political music gaining traction in the current music scene honestly, ppl just wanna escape that shit now that social media exists
>>65270342
You must listen to better music than me then
>>65270401
This.
The rest of the world fucking loves the US, even if they pretend not to.
>>65270470
of course. RATM, 21P, Macklemore, RTJ, the list goes on
>>65270342
Oh god, not this all art is political shit again. Keep your shitty propaganda art to yourself, I'll enjoy shit of actual aesthetic merit.
>>65270616
Name one artist, that's not political in any way.
Sure you don't need to enjoy art for it's politics, but it's still political.
>>65270694
my bloody valentine
>>65270694
Gucci Mane
>>65270694
aphex twin
>>65270727
really? you don't see anything poltiical about gucci?
>>65270694
all instrumental music
>>65270708
>>65270727
>>65270745
>>65270759
All political.
MBV is a bit "harder" to prove, because I never understood their lyrics. But "silly love songs" drowned out by vacuum cleaners are still political. Obviously not in a direct supporting this or that party/politician way, but still based on some political beliefs that inform their music.
Gucci Mane, like most of hip-hop is the product of the societal position that the blacks have in the US, which informs his music, no matter how much it's just about supposedly un-political things.
Aphex Twin is pretty obviously political, the most obvious is in his videos and cover art, but even his music has and is filled with politics. Again, that doesn't mean that he is supporting gay marriage, or whatever in his music, but still has some political stance in broader sense. I mean you don't call your album Syro for nothing....
Instrumental music can still be programmatic, which means that the author wanted to convey an exact message with it. Take Overture 1812 by Tchaikovsky for example, completely instrumental, yet it's a propaganda piece none the less.
>>65270828
>I mean you don't call your album Syro for nothing....
what did he mean by this?
>>65270828
well good point I forgot that at the very least instrumentals still have their respective song titles.
All the spoiled white liberals will be overjoyed if Trump gets elected. It will be so good for them to have an evil bigot right wing nazi in office so they can be LOUD AND PROUD about their virtue signaling and ego. They don't want "progress" they want something evil to rebel against because they're children.
I can already see pop punk bands naming their albums some kind of twist on 'make america great again'
>>65270861
damn, you sure got a large section of the american populace figured out there anon
>>65270849
Syria - Syro. It's obvious. ;^) Maybe I should go with drukqs, which is obviously taking some kind of stance on legality of drugs...
>>65269791
I don't want to sound like I'm memeing, but we're fucked if trump gets in.
>>65270889
Nothing's going to change. It never does, not even for the worse.
>implying Donald Trump isn't going to make America great again
Go back to tumblr you fags.
>>65270923
How unamerican do you have to be, to think that America isn't already great??
>>65270889
of course you think that, Brandon, you bed wetting cuck
>>65270898
that's a bit of an overstatement, but yeah, if Trump were elected things wouldn't go apocalyptic like some people claim
it would still get a decent bit shittier though
>>65270951
I do like his stance on immigration though
>>65270970
which he will flip on, watch.
>>65270354
>then the rest of the world can stop taking US seriously.
that happened decades ago
git gud
>>65270898
you're like a frog in hot water
things have changed to the worst since reagan
>>65271402
I don't even know.
What is a frog on hot water like? Dead?
>>65271402
>Reagan
which is why we need another celebrity to be president. It will complete the circle and allow america to continue to be great
>>65271525
probably located in the bayou, so hopefully
>>65269791
>no joke bands based on obama
this just proves that US has been racist towards whites only for past 20 years
>>65271402
yeah well he sent everything into motion lining his pockets with Saudi money. we've had to fight almost 20 years of war against people they didn't like because of it.
>>65270469
I had never considered this to be why there is so little politically charged music nowadays but I think you're spot on.
>>65270861
preach
>>65270861
it's funny because you also perfectly described the alt. right & /pol/ and tumblr in one post.
another one for horseshoe theory.
>>65271543
I like ur style
>>65271672
this got me more than the shitpost you're replying to anon, genuinely good job anon. solid 9/10
>>65270137
>Russia
>>65271707
they wont do shit especially now that the sanctions have been lifted from Iran which was their main connection in the first place. Russia is increasingly becoming an island unto itself these days not to mention putin and trump have basically been sucking each others dicks.
>>65271695
>got me
in what way
>>65270828
Political=/=Life topics
>>65271738
negatively, as in mild annoyance
I genuinely hope you don't actually buy into horseshoe theory
>>65271752
in that the further you go in either direction the dumber you sound to well-adjusted human beings, of course.
>>65270828
You have a lot of time to make shit up, don't you? Your thoughts are like a schizophrenic.
>>65270881
But it's true. It's all they do now, and they're only just afraid he will be president.
>>65271805
i mean, if you're here it's pretty obvious you have nothing going on. same with everyone here
>>65271543
>>> /pol/
>>65271787
>all ideas even mildly distant from the typical ideological stance of a society are bad because "muh well-adjusted human beings"
wew lad
>>65271854
you said they'd be overjoyed and now you're saying they'd be scared
make up your mind anon
>>65271752
>buy into
They'll deny reality at every twist and turn.
>>65271891
>mildly distant
>fascism, communism, totalitarianism
yeah those are completely normal
>>65271898
I'm not sure what you're trying to say anon
>>65271915
my point is that basing your opinions off of what is normal or not is one of the most idiotic things you could do
>>65271940
>what is normal
>as opposed to what is the literal definition of insanity which those ideologies are
i think i'll go with normal
>>65271947
you just dropped your previous argument solely for literally nothing
I'm guessing you genuinely have no clue why you hold the opinions you do other than "that's just the way things are"
>>65271973
the point was always that the opposite ends of the spectrum are filled with ideologies that have never formed a long-lasting society despite many attempts at doing so. ascribing to 'well, it's never worked before, but let's try it again' is far worse than leaning towards normalcy.
>>65272018
but anon, that ignores the fact that 'normalcy' itself has shifted almost constantly over the course of the past millennium. if you want to make that argument then really the only viable society is some ancient arrangement, or maybe feudalism if you want to go as recent as possible.
that's not even taking into account the fact that due to said change some of said 'extreme' ideologies could potentially work better now than they could when they were last attempted.
>>65272106
>when they were last attempted.
they're still attempted now, though, and it still holds true that as a government leans towards authoritarianism (which even the democracies in the west are), social unrest and eventual upheaval happens. we've been through the cycle of staging revolution, having leader come out of it, guillotine him a few decades later, etc. every century.
it's human nature, neither extreme works in practice.
>>65269986
Me neither!
Hi faggots.
i used to be on /mu/ 24/7, but i "quit" it for a year or two.
What has changed here? I sure hope most of you support Trump, or at least don't go with shitty forced memes like Drumpf, and i don't even live in the USA.
>>65269791
I fucking hope not. I hated that Rock Against Bush shit back in '04, if I have to deal with it again I won't be able to stand it.
>>65272681
you should quit it again for /pol/
their shitposting is more your style
>>65272715
Did i offend you in some way?
>>65272727
no, but nice digits
TRUMP will be the greatest president since reagan and much better than than islamist barry soetero who has held the presidency hostage for 8 years
>>65272749
this is just too blatant
>>65272762
I'm actually serious you libtard piece of shit
>>65272773
Nah, he's just boring.
>inb4 people say Reagan was the worst president
Wrong, that would be Andrew Jackson
>>65272773
this post is even worse
so bad that I'll give you a pity (You)
please do something better with your time anon
>>65272745
t-thanks
>>65272790
guess i'll settle for second worst, said Reagan, as he armed the Saudis who would eventually carry out 9/11.
>>65272790
Jackson was worse but Reagan was pretty bad too
>>65270898
I used to think so too, but now that he has declared humanmade climate-change makebelieve he is actually very dangerous!!
>>65272948
>humanmade climate change
>real
i bet you drive a prius fucking libtard
>>65272948
wew lad
climate change is nothing man made.
you can argue and are probably correct in saying humans contribute in part to it, but we are not the sole thing responsible for global warming
>>65272966
this is just getting sad
/mu/ - politics
>>65273080
the containment board doesn't work
>>65269948
>not realizing Trump is retarded enough to try
I bet you think all lives matter.
>>65270861
maybe people will quit pretending anyone cares about what genitals they have, wish they had, or want to fuck.
trump for new distraction devil!
>>65269791
I bought that on vinyl when I was 14, I was such a dumbass
>>65270071
>Trump said
There's your problem.
He's just saying anything that will appeal to the average conservative voter, and willingness to assert military power is always a safe bet with them. If you actually think he intends to go through with any of this bullshit you are just fucking naive.
Watch, he's going to be the conservative Obama.
>>65274882
>guys vote for him he's just lying he wouldn't do such a thing!
great strategy
>>65274882
>Watch, he's going to be the conservative Obama.
Impossible. Obama goes against all conservative values. It wouldn't be possible for Trump to destroy the country enough to earn a legitimate comparison to Obama.
>>65275062
Obama is a cunt hair to the left of a true conservative
the problem is the "right wing" has gone full retard, so anything that isn't a bible thumper save da babbys climate change a hoax is considered "left wing"
>>65269791
We can only hope
Why do people assume that anyone who hates Trump is a libtard or SJW? His views are objectively shit and he's an embarrassment to America.
>B-BUT WE NEED A STRONK LEEDUR
No we don't, we need a good leader.
>B-BUT HE'LL STOP POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
No he won't. And even if he did, PC is a non-issue. It doesn't affect anything in the real world that has importance.
>>65275218
Literal cucks. It all boils down to the TPP. Who's for it, who's against it? Vietnam is primed & ready to take the rest of the manufacturing jobs left.
>>65269791
Well yea dude, just like all the DUDE GEORGE BUSH LMAO bands are a rehash of all the DUDE RONALD REAGAN LMAO bands.
It happens every time the Reps win the elections; what did you expect?
>>65270071
>2016
>people still think presidents are these king-like figures who get to decide on a whim when and where to take military action
>or any action at all
>or even passing laws
>LOL WHAT IS A REPUBLIC
>>65270331
Trump is the most leader-like president we've had since Reagan, and that's all that matters. The president controls the military and vetoes bills. It doesn't matter how much a president says that they'll implement welfare programs, they won't unless they have congress on their side.
Trumps main talking points seem to focus on diplomacy, and they should, considering that that's the president's main fucking job.
>>65275426
>Trump is the most leader-like president we've had since Reagan, and that's all that matters.
Blatantly incorrect. He comes across as presidential as a high-school math teacher who stumbles into the room drunk. Kids tend to be easily amused by that sort of thing. America has been exposed as a bunch of children.
>tfw the Libertarians are thinking of running a third party candidate.
>>65275426
>Trump is the most leader-like president we've had since Reagan
aka I'm pretty fucking stupid so when I see a buffoon talking absolute drivel in a loud, obnoxious manner I assume he is saying important things because LOUD NOISES
also,
>Reagan
>"leader like"
I still don't get the obsession of Republicans with their St Reagan
>>65275540
Reagan was the brainchild of Corporate neo conservatism. Reagan was a manipulated puppet. Say what you will of Trump, but he's not that.
>>65275540
>republican
Nope. As if I would subscribe to the two party system.
Admit it, Reagan was such a great leader that he was practically made to be president. He got shot and walked into the hospital unassisted to show the American people that everything would be fine. He was a good leader, and to see that you don't have to agree with anything he did.
>>65275523
They always do that
>>65275604
The man had fucking dementia in his second term.
>>65275604
>he got shot and walked out of the hospital like a badaass with a bald eagle on his shoulder and an american flag on his arms = good leader
American "politics"
>>65275578
>Say what you will of Trump, but he's not that.
Yea, Trump's not the brainchild of Corporate neo conservatism. He's the retarded child of Corporate neoliberalism.
>>65275643
And that's his fault?
>>65275659
Being a good leader has nothing to do with politics. You probably wouldn't understand that in your Eurocuck nation full of beta males.
>>65275665
>Corporate neoliberalism
So how is he different from Hillary?
>>65275712
Why do you think I'm a conservative? What tipped you off?
I'm a member of the Green Party.
>>65275659
This.
I can guarantee you that if Hulk Hogan lived his "real american" character everyday, unironically, and ran for president, the same fucking rednecks who are supporting trump would give him the same vote. Also unironically.
>>65275686
>Being a good leader has nothing to do with politics.
Not the guy you're responding to, but you're right, it has to do with having good character and actually looking like a leader. Which trump doesn't meet the requirements of.
>You probably wouldn't understand that in your Euromeme nation buzzword meme buzzword REEEEEE anime.jpg
...
I'm american btw, and you don't seem to be aware that it's very much possible to love and respect your country WITHOUT having a superiority complex about it. I feel sorry for you.
>>65275747
>I'm a member of the Green Party.
>>65269884
i wouldn't say that. the only thing unjustified in this situation is the invasion of iraq and the phony election of the president who did it.
>>65270109
this is true. Green day became billionares because no one else was talking about it in music.
I was considering not voting in this election but I think I'll vote Hill just to contribute to 4chan shitting itself over Trump losing
>>65275868
This is honestly the only reason i'm voting tbqh famalam. I don't like Hillary at all, she has no fucking charisma and is way too scummy to have any respect for. But i get a lot of enjoyment out of pissing off trumpfags, so...
>>65275747
>I'm a member of the Green Party.
Hoo boy
>>65275868
Trump supporter here. I want Hillary to get the popular vote and I want Trump to win. I don't care about what Trump says or does, but America will shit itself even more than when Bush won because so many people HATE Trump.
Hopefully that'll bring an end to the two party system, or at least that specific situation ever happening again
>>65275747
>I'm a member of the Green Party.
lol i bet you drive a prius, smoke weed, and believe in global warming
>>65275926
Why would the electoral college ever side with Trump over Hill?
>>65275868
almost everyone expects him to lose though
>>65275926
>I want Hillary to get the popular vote and I want Trump to win.
what makes you think that would remotely happen? the opposite is far more likely (which still isn't likely).
>>65270759
GY!BE are instrumental too...
Why would anyone vote for anyone besides Gary Johnson at this point?
>>65275969
>>65275941
A man can dream, can't he?
>>65275992
no only dumb children can do that. Dumb fucking baby people, not men.
A Trump presidency will do wonders for bands like the ones OP is talking about.
Maybe pic related will get off his drunken ass and actually make something that isn't this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwy-cImKGaA
i hate politics
>>65276036
>dad is a pretty big music guy
>likes radiohead, faith no more, DOOM, and others
>tells me to listen to uno dos and tres because they're good
I was a little disappointed
>>65276036
either they woudn't be capable, or they would work really hard and they would make an incredible album having learned a lot from all this bullshit they did.
>>65276078
i didn't listen to them but it's just fun and probably ok.
>>65276062
oh wow great. lets all be like you and the world will be great cause you are so great.
>>65276116
m8, have you seen Billie Joe Armstrong's twitter? He's a liberal who keeps posting shit about Trump, that being said if Trump wins the election which is becoming more and more likely thanks to Clinton being a fraudulent piece of shit he's probably gonna go full REEEEEEEEEEEEE and pull American Idiot II or some shit.
The problem with Green Day is that everything they've made SINCE American Idiot has been trying too hard to replicate the success of American Idiot, BJ actually admitted this. He'll probably learn from his mistakes and hit the top of the charts once again.
>>65275868
>>65275910
If you faggots want to laugh at outrage then vote for Trump. /pol/s outrage over Trump losing would be fucking nothing compared to the mainstream media's outrage over Trump winning.
>>65276195
>>65276036
tfw American Idiot is your favorite album but you're a Trump supporter
>>65276036
>>65276116
>>65276195
Please no, Green Day are finally fading into irrelevancy. Them becoming a mainstream sensation again would be painful. Also, American Idiot was insufferably awful and a sequel to it would probably be even worse.
Here is how i see it
>Bernie
Bernie seems like a nice guy but his values of socialism just simply won't work. Socialism has never worked before and it won't work now. In socialism there is no incentive to actually achieve or work hard. You can just sit your lazy ass at home and get a check. He also doesn't seem like much of a leader (ex. when he let BLM take the stage from him at one of his rallies.)
>Hillary
Idk how she is even still in the running. After the emails scandal, and all of the policies that she has flipped on i'm not sure how anyone would still vote for her. I'm now against having a woman president but it seems like it's only because she's a woman and people want to be progressive and have a woman president that she is still in the running.
>Donald
Donald really does seem like the least of all the evils. The mainstream media screams and screams that he's a racist and that he's so evil when all he wants to do is tighten immigration policies. Plus he tax plan is pretty damn good too.
That's why I think that Trump is the best out of the candidates and why I will be voting for him.
>>65271863
I think he's got a point tho. Everything can influence somebody's writing even if it's subconscious.
>>65276195
>>65276195
>have you seen Billie Joe Armstrong's twitter?
lol no you retard, I havent
what exactly are you disagreeing with my about here?
>>65276314
both those things basically indicate low intelligence, you get a pass though on the album cause if you were young when that came out it's acceptable.
>>65276379
American idiot II already came out.
I think the main problem is they are too old now. They already had a broadway show for fucks sake. I can't get riled up by someone that old
if anything I would want to see Death Grips put aside all thier shit and go full political (they already are but aren't in your face about it all the time)
Anyone else think it's funny how American idiot manages to plagiarize wonderwall on one track and "it's raining it's pouring the old man is snoring" on another, the latter especially funny since it's basically ripping off Nomeansno but better?
>>65272790
Voting Nixon
>>65276549
>ocialism has never worked before and it won't work now
socialism works everyday in many other countries, and at this point it's the only option because our alternative system is not capitalism, it's state capitalism. You want to see a system that has never succeeded, that's capitalism. It always morphs into state capitalism which is kind of like socialism except the state looks after the rich.
>>65276549
>Donald really does seem like the least of all the evils.
He wants to radically restrict free speech and control what people can say online. He threatens the foundations of democracy directly more than any other candidate.
>>65270071
Why are Trump haters so Ill informed?
Its so weird. Millenials claim to be above the medias lies and manipulative ways in shit like fear mongering yet still fall for political maneuvering cherrypicking and flat out lies about politics.
Trump is the most liberal candidate as well out of the republican list, I can only chalk it up to sheer ignorance as to the massive hate he spawns
>>65276684
>He wants to radically restrict free speech and control what people can say online.
I need source, though.
>>65276549
>Plus he tax plan is pretty damn good too.
no it isn't. It's the same plan that destroyed the economy of Kansas
>>65276711
just look it up. as much as I want to win this argument I have a research paper that's already 12 hours overdue I haven't started so I can't in good faith be doing research to win online fights.
>>65276549
>i'm not sure how anyone would still vote for her. I
by the way, the way that people will vote for her is because of Trump
8 years of democrats, everyone disillusioned, it should have been an easy republican win this election but Trump has gone and made it impossible. That's the only real effect of his campaign.
>>65276753
No, can you give me an actual source?
Why do you people never have any actual source or proof?
>>65276870
what did i just fucking say?
>>65276717
* Those making up to $30,000 will pay 1 percent.
* Income from $30,000 to $100,000 results in a flat 5 percent.
* $100,000 to $1 million income will be taxed at 10 percent.
* On $1 million or above will be taxed 15 percent.
How did this ruin Kansas' economy?
>>65276900
You clearly have time to do so, since you're on this thread writing out paragraph responses and further replying to me. Instead of doing all this, you could've just posted a source.
I weep for America. I dont know what started this brainwashing of how youre "supposed" to accept shit blindly like Trump wanting censorship.
>>65276900
I looked it up man i didn't find shit. All i found is that he wanted to make libel laws stricter
>>65276269
Yeah I go to /pol/ and I also watch mainstream media, look at me, I'm such a fucking lonely retard
>>65276608
>if anything I would want to see Death Grips put aside all thier shit and go full political (they already are but aren't in your face about it all the time)
Why? It's fun trying to figure out the meanings of MC Ride's cryptic lyrics.
>>65275376
Came here to say this
>>65269980
>In five years the Republican Party will be a workers party
>come on guys, trump isn't really a nazi
>>65276973
they aren't that cryptic really. im sick of people not understanding so much of it that I get in arguments about basic interpretation.
Just imagine if they were full political. Look at how thoroughly they trashed Kanye West while barely even acknowledging him. They would btfo of Trump on such a level that it would go down in US history text books.
>>65277062
>hurr durrrr Trump is a Nazi
Why don't you leftists understand that this mindless shit slinging is the reason Trump is doing so well? Do you seriously think that screaming "RACIST! SEXIST! XENOPHOBE! NAZI! HITLER! HITLER! HITLER!" again and again will derail his campaign?
>>65275376
>>people still think presidents are these king-like figures who get to decide on a whim when and where to take military action
that is literally what they do. congress hasn't declared war in half a century and yet we still do plenty war shit where ever the president wants to. You are the one who should be getting current year arrows if you don't know this.
>>65275940
To be fair there's nothing wrong with smoking pot.
>>65277136
You need to be 18 to post here
Go back to your shitty generic low T bon Iver and fleet foxes,r/indieheads fag
>>65275940
>he brought up climate change in a political discussion
>>65276933
http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/please-dont-shut-down-the-internet-donald-trump
>>65276940
pretty much picked that randomly. Now you cuck-servatives are gonna insist that we need to do this shit to fight terrorism just like we needed the patriot act to destroy our freedom so that terrorists couldn't destroy our freedom.
fuck off i have to do homework
& in the end, the 2018 elections will be more important.
>>65277205
Yes, I too googled it and clicked the first result. This article has no direct proof, it is entirely speculating on what he meant by that one please. Which itself doesn't mention anything about censorship in art or media.
You people are hopeless if you don't even read stuff you say backs up your claims. Ignorant people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
>>65277170
You have no idea how the government works and like memes, I get it. Not very original. 2/10
>>65269822
>hip-hop won't give a shit, despite the numerous hip-hop songs in existence already essentially saying "fuck trump"
lol
>>65277245
>Which itself doesn't mention anything about censorship in art or media.
right because giving the government the prerogative to deny internet access to any area they deem a terror threat is really vague.
>>65270274
Okay, kiddo.
>>65277263
I actually took courses for it though.. like I didn't just read buzzfeed articles about it?
>>65277301
again. For starters the article has zero actual proof of this. Its literally a speculation throughout
Secondly, please stop making stuff up that sounds appealing to you. Yoy can't just assume someone means something after saying something vague. What he said could have several different implications
why are third wave liberals so close minded and ignorant?
>>65277132
yeah. Identity politics works, that's why people like you have a big mad. The majority of people don't like fascists, racists, and nazis. So between trumperinas proudly declaring that Trump is a nationalist, and Trump himself advocating for a workers party, and being totally unable to take any significant part of the "ethnic" vote to make up for the fact that the white vote is split between left and right, it should be pretty easy to inject into the American psyche that Trump is an actual National socialist. So there goes even part of the right-leaning voting populace willing to vote for him
>>65277301
clicking the first article that pops up and skimming through until you find a phrase you like and strip it of all context doesn't constitute research
also desperate times call for desperate measures. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Even if that's what he meant, given he further elaborates on it and explains exactly what he meabs I'd be for it. Its an inconvenient truth
>>65275716
he isn't. that's the whole point
>>65277381
lamo hilarious that you are the same person arguing this shit. Not surprising that you lack the mental acumen to read between lines when you don't even understand the basic history and powers of the executive branch despite taking classes about it.
>>65277457
i literally told you I would not research it. There's no point spoon feeding a low functioning retard that needs to be tube fed.
>>65277457
>also desperate times call for desperate measures. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Even if that's what he meant, given he further elaborates on it and explains exactly what he meabs I'd be for it. Its an inconvenient truth
this is exactly the logic that was used to justify the patriot act as well as the NSA PRISM program. You know how many attacks PRISM prevented? Literally none.
>>65276914
>what are supply side economics
>>65277571
This is exactly what I mean. Trump haters cannot present actual evidence, they just merely sneer and dismiss you for being stupid and close minded for not just saying whatever everyone else says. I won't comment on the irony directly.
Coming up with actual valid sources to support your claims is not spoon feeding. Its proving you're not talking out of your ass.
https://youtu.be/omrRpOM9fDI
You are the embodiment of the downfall of freethinkers in American political philosophy alongside the rush to destroy capitalism and the unique foundation america was built on. I will do all in my power to prevent your ignorance from actually going through with it.
The biggest question I have is how someone can be conditioned to such a state that they just assume that whatever they want to believe is true, regardless of whether or not here are facts to support it. Then call anyone that challenges this a retard and further resort to name-calling rather than presenting proof.
>>65277684
a myth
>>65277628
It reallyisnt. I didn't support the act. It was flimsy from the start and largely ineffective because of how poor its whole foundation was.
Also, with any new implementation of security, the opposition adapts over it. Its not surprising it hasn't stopped anything. Not defending it, but just saying.
>>65277700
exactly
>YOU GET A TAX BREAK
>SHE GETS A TAX BREAK
>THE BILLIONARES GET A TAX BREAK
>TAXES = EVIL
>NOW LETS WAIT FOR THE JOBS CREATOR TO "TRICKLE DOWN" SOME OF THAT $$ TO THE DYING MIDDLE CLASS
>OH WE ARE RUNNING A DEFICIT BUDGET? WELL LAAA DEE FUCKING DA, ITS THE FAULT OF THOSE NIG-ERRR, "URBAN" POPULATION AND MINORITIES LEECHING OFF DA GUBAMINT. SO MIDDLE CLASS PLEASE WORK HARDER AND PAY MORE TAXES
>STILL WAITING FOR TRICKLE DOWN INCOME PLS RESPOND
>>65269791
no it'll be hip hop
theres already a song called fuck donald trump
>>65276314
>Favorite album is American Idiot and not Dookie or Insomniac
Not surprised a Trump supporter has shit taste.
>>65277457
>we are spying on you to keep you SAFE. Our FREEDOM is at TRUMP STEAKS. Citizen, if you hate our LIBERTIES you'd opposed SURVEILLANCE. If you have nothing to HIDE then you should be ok with it
>>65277697
>https://youtu.be/omrRpOM9fDI [Embed]
lamo this video is the dumbest shit ever. It's hilarious that you post stock pol arguments and this fucking video of all things. If you really think that video is anything important and not just an old man finding a late life career path, you know absolutely nothing about history. Everything he describes as 'subversion' is what any fucking sociologist or historian recognizes as the results of industrialization. You are a retard. It's like you guys jerk off to the boogymen people invent to control you. You are the reason the republican party is able to get millions to vote against their own economic interests year after year.
>>65277734
>It reallyisnt.
ok, maybe you disagree, but that really is the logic that was at play. The patriot act was passes 40 days after 911. It was completely justified by the 'desperate times desperate measures' argument
>>65277875
isn't it scary you're literally exactly what he's talking about? I can't comment on its objectivity I will have to further look into it, but it was made so long ago and yet he is describing you word for word. I know you can't see it yourself, but it's quite evident to outsiders which I'd what makes it the hardest to realize about ones self
I don't use pol, I dont hate black people or whatever.
You continue to call me a retard as well, and again have no proof for your claims. How do you lack so much self awareness?
>>65277971
>t it was made so long ago and yet he is describing you word for word.
no he isn't, his description fits anyone anyone disagrees with when they think they are right you dumbass.
You don't understand anything about history. Really. Demoralization is not the result of 'cultural marxism' it's the result of industrial capitalism. The family breaks down because people are no longer forced to depend on close knit communities for economic survival and are afforded more individual agency working in large companies. Sex gets everywhere because it's the biggest human motivation and it's used to sell junk. It's nothing to do with a communist subversion plot.
It's even more ironic that is if you knew more about history you would know there's even a history of Russians making up fake conspiracies as a means of propaganda, not that that even matters when you can just listen to what this guy says and point for point invalidate everything he claims by simply knowing the most basic parts of human history.
And furthermore, you are the one who agrees that is arguing for the side that wants to give the government more power. You are not a conservative at all.
>>65277971
>How do you lack so much self awareness?
talk about not backing up your claims and being unaware, every time I refute you you ignore it. I told you the executive branch does in fact have extraordinary military power and that congress hasn't declared war in ages and your reply was to call me an indie fan and to got to reddit. Now I've gone and explained, ad reexplained in more detail why your russian bro is fucking retarded and you literally have nothing to say.
>>65270694
Dead Kennedys
>>65270427
>>65270370
Dude DRUMPF LMAO! I get all my political information from shitty late night shows
>>65270877
fall out boy already did this
>>65279689
>I get all my political information from a moron with a big mouth and a fragile ego
>>65277835
I am a trump suporter am I like dookie and Insomniac
