What are some good right-wing musicians?
Jeffery Starr
WELL IM LOOKING AT THE WORLD NOW
the nuge
Gene Simmons
Johnny Rebel
Ian Stewart Donaldson
David Bowie
The F.U.s
U.S. Chaos.
The Bully Boys
Combat 84
Agnostic Front
Warzone
(I know those aren't individual musicians, but are bands)
>>65269886
>Gene Simmons
>Good
>>65269886
>David Bowie
That fascism stuff was just an act anon
Danny elfman was pretty right wing and this album is great
Animal Collective
>>65268608
O NAANANANANANAA
IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
'TILL WE GET THINGS BACK ON TRACK
OUR VALUES ARE UNDER ATTACK
>>65269970
confusing up and right is the worst meme. dude spent most of his years on television calling conservatives retarded.
>>65269922
I don't care if you did get dubs, I stand by my post, especially when he made statements about how Hitler was the first rock and roll super star, and that he was right wing enough to be the first U.S. President from Britain, if he was allowed to run for the office. Cocaine: It's one hell of a drug, isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7YW045deBY
>>65270046
Frank Zappa admitted he was a conservative in his ghost written autobiography The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa and Peter Ochiogrosso. (He didn't mention weather or not his politics leaned to the right or left of center, though)
There's as many good conservative artists as there are intellectuals on the right: None.
>>65270106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9856_xv8gc
he says he's a conservative in this video too, he means libertarian. the people he's debating take the typical right-wing stance for the time.
>>65268608
5 star post my man
>>65269970
based
>>65269970
this is the least conservative looking conservative i've ever seen
>>65270143
intellectuals tend to be more left wing because their ideas are safe-guarded by the fact that they will never actually be tested in the real world
>>65270279
yeah tell 'em man the theory of relativity is just a THEORY for a reason.
>>65270266
zappa was more into classical liberalism rather than stuffy ultra-christian conservativism
>>65269996
I followed his advice and it really helped my life become better. Simplifying things is the way to live however I'm still addicted to anime and spend quite amount of time on them however things are starting to be better
>>65270319
you're an idiot, scientific theories are backed up with lots of real world evidence and testing
my point was that an "intellectual" like Chomsky can say whatever he wants and can't be strictly proven wrong because no one is stupid enough to actually implement his ideas
>>65269995
HERE'S SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT
>>65270064
Anon, these aren't arguments. Like, literally they're not.
Death In June
>>65270383
the joke is that almost every scientist is left-leaning, or in Einstein's case a complete socialist.
"intellectual" doesn't just mean philosopher or social pundit bub.
>>65268444
Me
Eazy E
ITT: Alt righties trying to fix their cognitive dissonance
>>65270020
me on the left
>>65270447
and guess what, most economists tend to be conservative, ie. people who dedicate their lives to a topic actually relevant to their political beliefs
it's almost as if people who are geniuses in one area aren't automatically geniuses in another
hence why you shouldn't get political validation from a fucking musician of all people
ITT: buttrock
ITT: Suburban White Males
>>65270545
>t. suburban white male
>>65270531
they just exploit said findings for profit. it's not like it's even remotely as difficult as actual scientific discovery and progression, without which an economist would be out of a job.
a scientist could do it too if they weren't busy moving on to the next way to help mankind.
how come alt. right cry about jews 24/7 when all of their political views are super jewwy?
>>65270618
what profit? I'm talking about economists not Wall Street capitalists, economists make the same salaries as other intellectuals ie fuck all
also who's talking about difficulty and why is it relevant? you're making the false assumption that someone who understands quantum physics is automatically some sort of authority on politics as well, it's illogical
not to mention it's a known fact that academic institutions discriminate against people who identify as conservatives, it's left-wing nepotism
and also I'm not alt-right, don't try and dismiss my arguments just because you're wrong
>>65270720
just like you rightfully dismissed Chomsky, you must also throw the rest of the social sciences out. they all mean fuck all as far as intellectuals go, economists included.
if you don't have the mind to be involved in hard sciences, you pick the arts. they're the only two types of 'intellectuals' that matter.
>>65270817
not sure what point you're trying to make
social sciences can still be demonstrated through evidence and testing, it's usually just more abstract than physical sciences, I never discounted them all, stop strawmanning
I chose chomsky as an example because he's a darling of the intellectual left and the only reason is because his ideas have never been put into practice and been proven wrong, which was my original point
>>65270919
anyway this thread will be deleted soon so this has been pretty pointless
>>65270945
no it's fine, it's been nice talking.
>>65270945
>>65270997
You guys should now meet up and fuck
>>65270997
yeah thanks for keeping it civil mate
>>65271039
y-you too
>>65270919
>I chose chomsky as an example because he's a darling of the intellectual left and the only reason is because his ideas have never been put into practice and been proven wrong, which was my original point
I'm no huge fan of Chomsky but modern linguistics owes a hell of a lot to his work. He's more well known for his cultural criticism, though, so I assume that's what you're talking about when you say his "ideas have never been put into practice". His views on American neo-imperialism are obvious to anyone who's passed third grade, but yeah, he shits on critical theory because he doesn't understand it and probably just enjoys the way "anarcho-syndicalism" feels coming out of his mouth.
Reminder that Sartre and Foucalt are the best 20th century philosopher.
>>65271079
yeah I was referring to his politics, don't know anything about linguistics but I'm aware of how highly respected he is in that regard and don't deny that he's incredibly intelligent
anyway I'm just parroting Thomas Sowell when it comes to intellectuals and political commentary, he has a bretty good book about it
>>65269995
I really miss album covers like this.
>>65271272
obviously
>>65268444
Douglas Pearce is pretty good.
>>65269934
kek, no
jesse hughes is a right winged idiot, Joshua is cool as they get
>>65269970
Did he fuck Claudia Cardinale?
Notable supporter of the Conservative Party.
Incidentally, what do Americans think of our Conservatives? Do you view them as right-wing or more around the centre compared to your right-wing?
>>65270064
Hitler wasn't right wing
Absolutely none.
>>65268444
Ariel Pink was on Fox News once
Johnny cash, miles davis, john coltrane, animal collective, the velvet underground, the beatles, radiohead, black sabbath, the cure, zayn malik, kanye west
>>65276888
>>65276187
Josh describes himself as socially liberal and politically conservative.
He's pro-trump/war/life.
Just like his idiot redneck friend
>>65270143
Though he doesn't talk about it a whole lot, which is seems to be the case for most good Conservative musicians.
>>65268444
AND ITS VICTORY
OR VALHALLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QA7fP3qKls
>>65268444
If i remember correctly Johnny was the only conservative in the group while DeeDee was a degenerate and Joey was beta. I'm not sure about Tommy but he did end up managing them to the hall of fame so I'm sure he was a good guy.
Ian Curtis of Joy Division voted for Margaret Thatcher.
>>65278110
Because he was fed up with how moderate Labour was at the time.
>>65268608
>>65270030
WHO'S EXCITED FOR DECKER SEASON 4?
Can't wait to see what Klington, the Master of Codes will be having Jack Decker do this time around.
>>65276465
From an objective standpoint based on policy, the UK Conservative Party is to the left of the Democrat Party. The United States' "left-wing" party is still pretty right-wing all things considered.
>>65269922
that could have just been something that a publicist told him to say
>>65269996
i don't know who this guy is but his face is literally plebbit
>>65277074
not an argument
>>65270030
always confused him with the vape nation guy
>>65268444
Burzum
Douglas Pearce
Boyd Rice
>>65278449
We have yet to see an argument from you, though
>>65277049
But in that Vice interview Joshua was going all "were all citizens of the world", but you might be right.
anyways peace
>>65278346
creator of burzum, his name is varg. the band itself has some really good songs but most completely mediocre, he is only really known because black metal drama. for example, he assisted in the suicide of dead (lead vocalist for mayhem) and then he murdered euronymous also of mayhem, the lead guitarist. he was involved in numerous church burnings as well, i don't really give him enough credit as a genuine person who says what he believes and does shit about it but he has become black metal's pop icon unfortunately
>>65278346
>doesn't know who varg "count memenackh, he who stabbed a bitch in the head and burnt the oldest church of the north to the ground, and taught us how to be trvly be trve" vikernes is
>>65276999
He was literally a Socialist.
>>65279184
National socialism is not socialism
>>65279306
are you fucking serious right now?
>>65279393
>muh common sense
>muh complete lack of political and historical context
you probably think D-Day won WWII, as well, you complete dipshit
>>65269970
This is incorrect
>>65279306
Christ, next you'll be telling me the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea isn't a democracy.
>>65279399
IM NOT LETTING HIM HAVE THE LAST WORD MY EGO IS TOO FRAGILE
>>65279425
do you even know what socialism is? national socialism is textbook socialism. more power to the government, the encouragement of public property, government owned businesses, etc. it is capitalism, its socialism. you see how that works?
>>65279548
isn't capitalism, it's socialism
>>65279548
It's more like a social democracy imo.
>>65269970
RARE ZAPPA
also people saying he's not conservative fail to understand Zappa is an actual conservative and not what gets called a conservative today. Really he's a liberal in the classical sense which is the conservative one.
>>65270106
>ghost written
who wrote it?
>>65270279
>intellectuals tend to be more left wing
because liberals are mostly lazy cunts and are afraid of working a real job.
<< used to be left but moved to the right after 9/11
>>65276999
Racist =/= Right Wing
Quit getting your politics from Comedy Central and Twitter
>>65279399
/pol/ is right wing and has a weird thing for Hitler so your post doesn't make any fucking sense. If you came to /pol/ with the fact that Hitler wasn't right wing the retards posting their would get pissed.
Johnny Ramone
Alice Cooper
Prince (against same-sex marriage)
Gene Simmons
Meat Loaf
Dave Mustaine
The Beach Boys (headlined a fundraiser for the 1984 Republican convention and supported Mitt Romney)
Neil Peart (not anymore, but in the past)
Michale Graves
Elvis Presley
Ted Nugent
Eric Clapton
50 Cent (said he would vote for George Bush)
Kid Rock
Phil Collins
Ian Curtis
>>65282122
Why do all of these artists suck though?
>supported Mitt Romney
I wonder how that went for them : )
>>65282122
>Elvis Presley
given the time he lived in, he was the absolute opposite of a conservative/right wing you idiot
>>65270618
>how come alt. right cry about jews 24/7
I actually like jews desu.
>>65276187
How is Jesse Hughes an idiot?
>>65278715
b-but he is on the right side of history™ as a true progressive™
>hitler wasn't right wing
holy shit the alt-rightfags sure do love their mental gymnastics
>>65282163
>The Beach Boys
>suck
Truly epic my guy.
>>65282096
I'm right wing, but I'm an American who loves freedom so /pol/'s national Socialists and "traditionalists" don't like me.
Their obsession with an authoritarian father figure isn't really my thing. Even if the Holocaust was fake, Nazi Germany still sounds like hell to me.
>>65282333
how is he not an idiot?
I kind of dropped the band after the shit he said after the paris attacks. And I was at their gig in Vienna in the past and liked them a lot.
But hes a complete retard and I'm not even talking about his right winged shtick.
The whole talk " those innocent kids were sheltered from guns and froze in place, while I grew up alongside guns was sane minded and reacted" was just rude, he ran off the stage like a pussy and he's acting like a war hero.
>>65278022
Yes that's right. I think Tommy was the level headed influence
>>65282432
He was sort of centrist in his authoritarianism.
He was left wing with his belief in the state, and giving workers entitlements, and co-opting private sector industries with state regulation, but his right wing traditional, national, and cultural bend puts him far more right than say Stalin
>>65282444
The Republican members of The Beach Boys suck
>>65282545
>Hating based Mike
>>65270618
>how come alt. right cry about jews 24/7 when all of their political views are super jewwy?
you literally nailed it already, jews are competition in alt-right peoples' game of "who can gain the most from being a selfish rat," at least the way they see it
>>65279184
So socialist he banned all trade unions.
Hitler hated socialism. One of the reasons for The Night of the Long Knives was to eliminate left wing elements of the NSDAP. I hate this alt-right revisionism bullshit.
>>65282912
I'm not even Alt-right tho, but when you set up a government where people are ancillary to the state, you are socialst. Just his brand on Socialism was different than the Frankfurt school or Lenin, or Mao, or what have you.
The National Socialists were almost literally a giant union, since there was state created programs for musicians, and worker benefits and an entire department for planning vacations.
>>65270143
pic related is you
>>65270064
>when he made statements about how Hitler was the first rock and roll super star
He's not wrong in that regard, assuming that quote is real, but I think you're misinterpreting what it means.
It's not necessarily an endorsement at all.
>>65270179
>>65270106
Zappa was one of those extreme libertarians like Lemmy or Robert Crumb in that he believed both Christian conservatives and SJWs to be two different flavors of fascism.
>>65270464
I miss Jeff
too soon
>>65283287
State control is not socialism. Socialism is worker/democratic control of the means of production which can manifest in authoritarian or liberal varieties. Nazi Germany did not have this; they had state-controlled capitalism.
>>65278665
thought Pearce were left-wing
Ian Curtis
>>65282333
He fucking supports Trump m8
>>65283857
>What is adoption?
>ctrl + f "morrissey"
>no results
>>65285060
>What are some GOOD right-wing musicians?
>>65284996
So how is he an idiot?
>>65285060
is he right or left? he seems to have some opinions that are extreme right and some that are extreme left
>>65285144
If I have to explain how supporting Trump makes someone braindead I think you should get off this site right now.
>>65276465
the british """"conservative"""" party is a pretty good example of the term "cuckservative" being put to good use.
>>65285195
Guys it's Carl
>>65285148
I think he supported UKIP at the last election, but he's definitely got some left-wing views in him as well. I think Morrissey could best be described as a committed contrarian.
>>65276888
hitler was center right
>>65285144
He buys into obvious populist rhetoric.
>>65285195
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>65285148
morrissey is weird
as we know, he's big on animal rights which are typically a left wing thing, also he's pretty damn gay. but at the same time, he's pretty racist and values traditional english morals and values and is for a white england.
based t b h
>>65279548
Do you really think Hitler is considered a criminal because of his economic policies?
>>65285357
>>65285286
As much as this is a shitty meme, Carl has a point.
It should be blatantly obvious in what way Trump is like Hitler and why supporting Trump makes you look stupid.
>>65285195
That's it, I'm a #ShillForHill now
>>65285434
Is that Avey Tare?
>>65285195
in all seriousness though I wouldn't vote for Trump in a million years but I literally have never seen somebody actually explain why he's so bad, compared to, say, ted cruz.
I don't know if he is, but he seems like he'd be one because he's such a cunt.
>>65285195
>>65285423
>ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ASKING ME TO PRESENT AN ARGUMENT AND DEFEND MY POINT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>65285485
>Northern
>Working Class
>His band supported Tony Blair in '97
I think it's unlikely.
>>65285485
i know noel is a lefty shit, i think the same is true of liam.
>>65285423
again, not even a Trump supporter, but comparing him to literally Hitler is an overreaction IMO, and outside of vague parallels that can be drawn between the two it always comes off as baseless scaremongering. Hitler was a man who enacted genocide on a massive scale, comparing Trump to him doesn't help anybody's understanding of the issues because again, the only legitimate comparisons are vague and don't logically lead to a conclusion of "he will commit genocide."
>>65285423
Yeah, because being against illegal immigration is exactly the same thing as thinking that an entire race deserves to be physically wiped out from the face of Earth
>>65270179
damn, Lofton is annoying as fuck
Apparently Tony Hadley of Spandau Ballet was a fan of Margaret Thatcher and a supporter of David Cameron
What are some good anarcho-capitalist musicians?
>>65285812
On a similar note Gary Numan supported Thatcher, though he apparently regrets it now and doesn't feel too politically either way.
the best
>>65282497
I don't see how he made himself out to be a war hero.
>advocated war crimes on live television
>wants to tank international relations
>denies climate change despite overwhelming majority of scientific evidence proving otherwise
>against safespaces and political correctness, yet wants to build an overpriced wall (i.e: a concrete safespace), and his followers ban people who disagree with Trump from subreddits.
>thinks the US can avoid defaulting if you print more money
Sure seems fit for President.
>>65286000
here we go
>>65285921 Sorta reminded me of how Danny Elfman felt more right-wing at the start of his career but is much less outspoken now
>>65286185
wut
>>65270006
>turn on the news this morning to watch the live debate
>"the terrorists just shot the president!"
>put your hands in your hair and scream your fucking lungs out "this can't be real"
>cameraman zooms on man running up to the stage
>it's fucking panda bear with a ski mask
>he grabs a mic and goes "RACE TO THE WHITE HOUSE, NIGGERS"
>yfw
>>65270447
What?? No,no,no,no,no,no
>>65286272
clsassic noah
>>65284955
>shoots guns
>strongly dislikes non-europeans
>left-wing
lol
>>65286000
>$0.05 has been deposited into your shill account
>>65285195
End your life immediately
>>65285393
i like him more after reading this
and im not white
>>65285410
no? where the fuck did you pull that question from
James Hetfield and Dave Mustaine
>>65279393
You quite obviously have either never taken a government class or are not even in high school yet. I'm calling underage b&
>>65287360
how is national socialism not socialism? no im not saying its socialism because socialism is in the fucking name, im saying its socialism because its the definition of socialism
>>65286185
Just because he's old and wears a cowboy hat doesn't make him right wing.
>>65276951
He was on a show that comes on at 3 a.m. that's mostly libertarian.
>>65287517
hitler killed all the socialists and removed the socialists from his party
he also loved corporations and defended private property (literally the opposite of socialism)
>>65287151
are you mexican? he loves mexicans for some reason.
>>65280693
>Really he's a liberal in the classical sense which is the conservative one.
crazy how times change things like this
>>65287517
you know you'd think the nazis were socialists because it's in the name right? they weren't. it is weird.
the nazis were centrists, leaning maybe a bit to the right.
pic unrelated, it's adi meeting black people
>>65277049
source on josh supporting trump
>>65277049
>Pro-war/life
Kek
>>65287795
"please stop killing us!"
"no chance, mein neger!"
>>65287636
>hitler killed all the socialists and removed the socialists from his party
but didn't he start out as a democratic socialist for quite a few years with elections and shit?
then he went national socialist in the latter years
hey look, another politics thread on /mu/
>>65269914
>Never listened to kiss
>13
>>65268444
What does conservative/liberal even mean. I can save you some time anon, there aren't any musicians who like war, believe in drug control, etc. but that doesn't mean they're all a bunch of leftist hippies, it just means they want there to be freedom/peace, and that's a concept that goes beyond the blind little pissing contest of Red vs Blue that goes on in America.
>>65287795
The Nazis were fascists, they believed in socialism and nationalism.
>>65287517
Fascism is a radical right wing ideology
>>65270143
Who is Nick Land you stupid fucking worthless faggot?
>>65270447
You know what Watson, the guy who discovered DNA has to say about black people, right? Or what Dawkins actually believes about culture and leftists? And what almost every philosopher in all of human history has said about women? And how Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice? And on and on.
And you pretend to know a single thing about what the "smart, cool people think." You might be surprised how complicated things can get when you actually sit down and think about them a bit.
Oh, you're a leftist. For you all that matters is how it makes you feel. And that's enough for you to go pointing the finger and making everyone bow down to you!
OK
>>65270447
you just got BTFOd dude
Neil Young; it doesn't seem like it because he's social-left and talked shit about some Republican presidents, but he's economic-right.
>>65279548
>textbook socialism
>more power to the government
read a fucking book u nob
>>65294530
Who's going to redistribute the wealth if not big government?
>>65282333
He claims that the theory of evolution implies "magical talking monkeys"
>>65269922
your a dorable
>>65294690
>redistribute the wealth
Do you know what socialism is?
>>65295350
All forms of socialism require collective or governmental control of the means of production and redistribution of goods and wealth, ie no private property.
Do you fucking know what socialism is?
