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Reviews are starting to come in. Discuss the 2016 AOTY.

http://backbeatseattle.com/2016/05/22/album-review-swans-the-glowing-man/
http://soundblab.com/reviews/albums/9606-swans-the-glowing-man
http://www.hippopress.com/read-article/swans--the-glowing-man-young-god-mute-records
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What's the final word on the Larkin situation? Were music pubs finally convinced she's batshit crazy given the testimony from Larkin's former bandmates and Gira's ex-wife or will they pan this album b/c they don't want to support a "rapist"?
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>>65248574
I read somewhere that she had accussed other people before gira, cant fimd source now, bu yes it looks like she is crazy
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Oh boy, does this mean that some has shipped?
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Well, that means that it's gonna be leaked soon
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leak it gira
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Do you guys remember when Gira accidentally leaked To Be Kind? What do you think will happen to The Glowing Man? I'll buy the album but I wouldn't mind a good quality leak, to say the least...
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>>65248515
One of my editors let me listen to the record. It is really good...

>tfw gira sings "The glory is miiiiiine" on final track
>tfw gira finally sings on Frankie M and he rhymes shit with drugs

So good
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hyped
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i would be floored if this album doesn't leak before the end of monday
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>>65248574
>>65248611
>>>/r/theredpill
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>>65249366
summerfag get out
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>>65249386
>>>/pol/

stay in your containment board
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>>65249366
how is that redpill? they were just asking about what came of it
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>>65249386
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>>65249434
it's pretty redpill to assume all women are lying about rape

i prefer to take the i dont fucking know stance about individual cases and acknowledge false rape accusations are statistically very rare

either way, there's no point of forcing this /pol/ topic into this thread
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>>65249489
theyre definitley not assuming all women are lying.
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>>65249489
lmao you are fucking stupid
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>>65248741
god that leak was so shit, like sub 100 kbps

i pray one of these review copies leaks
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so whats the leak forecast?
to be completely honest I think it won't like for at least 5 more days
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>>65249932
if reviewers have it, maybe soon?

im guessing these things are watermarked tho
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>>65249982
People who have heard it say there's no watermarks. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't leaked yet, it's probably only a matter of days.
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>>65249450
Regulars leave and summerfags arrive when summer rolls around.
They balance eachother out.
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Anyone else see this album art and think the album was named 'nunununu"?
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>>65250641
yeah its pretty weird dunno why they put it there
its a poster or a banner or something though, not album art
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>>65250590
>regulars leave
[citation needed]
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>>65249489
>>>facebook >>>tumblr
fuck off
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>>65250726
Regulars leave because they know summerfags are going to infest the website.
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I don't listen to music made by rapists, I'm sorry.
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>>65250809
>>>/tumblr/
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>>65250794
>they think
fixed that for you. the idea that theres a huge flux of newfags in the summer is a dumb myth that's been going on for far too long
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>>65250794
you are delusional
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I wish this was the album cover
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>>65248515
is this a stupid cover art or im the stupid here??? :/
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>>65250946
this is the proper cover art
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>>65249932
Someone on here already has the album and uploaded a few snippets
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>>65249489
No one is saying all women all lying. Just in this particular situation it looks pretty likely that Larkin Grimm is lying.
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>>65250999
yeah but he said he won't leak it
checked
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can some1 upload the album?
&(and) i dont get why the reviewer dont even put a rate scale?
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>>65250794
What is wrong with you
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>>65251049
I dont know if this is a boy or a girl, and I dont care, I want to do naughty things to this individuals private parts
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>>65251049
One of those reviews gave it an "A" grade. But even then, I think the review itself is more important than the score at the end. Especially if it's someone like P4K where the number is more a consensus than what the reviewer themselves might think. A recent example is like the Terminal Redux review where the review itself was far more glowing than the score it was given.
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>>65251049
>&(and) i dont get why the reviewer dont even put a rate scale?
this is what good reviewers do. they discuss their thoughts on what they heard and don't bother about rating horseshit.
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>>65251724
This, ratings systems are the worst thing to ever happen to art criticism.
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>>65248574
there isnt one, and there probably never will be.

false rape accusations are never really a thing that happen ever, more rapes go unreported than rape accusations are fake. but there is a lot of people who have no reason to defend Gira backing him up and attesting to her instablity, but i doubt we will ever know

in the end all that really matters is what comes down to an individual case of, does this issue matter to you enough to not listen to gira or swans music, which is a fair stance to have if you feel strongly about it, and anyone trying to tell you that youre dumb for having contradictory beleifs about how you take in art and express what art you want to make or include yourself in, is a child. it all comes down to whether or not YOU PERSONALLY feel it will stop you from listening
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>>65248515
All 3 of these reviews are terribly written.
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LEAK IT DEAK
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>>65253194
>false rape accusations are never really a thing that happen ever
>a lot of people who have no reason to defend Gira backing him up and attesting to her instablity
I hope this is bait
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>>65253194
You clearly don't know what you're talking about so just shut up.
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>>65253398
It's true though.

I mean, no one's saying that every rape claim is definitely 100% real, but statistically, speaking it's pretty damn close.
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>>65253757
those statistics are usually claims that have been filed with the police. The question relevant to Gira's case is how many claims from women that choose not to go to the police are false?
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>>65253870
its pretty much the same, most are not false
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>>65253913
sauce? because there is little to no way to actually find out about the claims that haven't been investigated...
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>>65253955
you arent here to discuss anything, youre here to suck yourself off for being stubborn and smarmy on 4chan
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fuuuck, I fucking neeed it
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>>65254167
That's not very convincing sauce.
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>>65254167
nah actually I am here to discuss swans and hope for a leak
but while you faggots are at it I was wondering which ass do you pull your stats from
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>>65254301
well where do you pull your skepticism from?
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>>65254167
kekerino my pepperoni
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>>65252965
>>65251724
fucking agreed
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>>65254328
positive statements require burden of proof
skepticism is supposed to be a default stance until proof is provided
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>>65254464
but your skepticism has to come from a place of disbelief, skepticism isnt the base of diplomacy or judgement

source me where your skepticism comes from
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>>65254167
you're claiming that he isn't the one who is serious about the discussion. He asked a rational question and you just used ad hominem
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>>65254328
People tend to be skeptical when it comes to judging somebody as a terrible monstrous piece of shit out of hand for fuck's sake.

The whole "false rape accusations NEVER HAPPEN GUISE" is horseshit man. OF COURSE this isn't the norm, but it fucking does happen and trying to sweep that under the rug is just silly. In indie rock alone off the top of my head I know that Isaac Brock from Modest Mouse and Conor Oberst from Bright Eyes were falsely accused of rape in the past.

I mean it's a case by case thing, for example I support Kesha and don't at all think she's lying, but that's due to contextual differences between that situation and the Gira one. I don't necessarily believe Larkin is flat lying, either, but I'm reserving judgment.
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>>65254507
I don't understand your question mate.
Positive claims are subject to burden of proof. Until proof is provided there is no rational reason to believe them. Thats the basis for my skepticism. When someone says "there is a unicorn in my garage" my default stance is skepticism until proof is presented and I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

The legal equivalent of this is presumption of innocence.
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>>65253194
>false rape accusations are never really a thing that happen ever
lmao what the fuck
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>>65254507
is english your first language? He didn't say anything that you're implying. He said that skepticism is the default stance before proof is provided, which makes sense because you can't make any substantial claim without proof
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>>65254737
that is a literal example of pure ideology you just saw right there
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>>65250641
I'm a nunununu nothing man
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>>65254765
which one?
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>>65255120
damn
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>>65255120
Shit, he gets it.

Also can we please just stop fucking talking about the rape thing? Gira is innocent, it's a closed case. This thread is about the new Swans record, not epistemology.
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>>65255259
tru
now leak it m9
or post more reviews
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>>65255122
>false rape accusations are never really a thing that happen ever
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>>65255293
I just got those ones off Google, you can search yourself to see if there are any more.
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>>65255417
kekked
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LEAK WHEN???
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>>65255783
HERE. NOW.
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>>65255831
>it is not here
>it is not now
>it is not here
>it is not now

thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n64TMQH0rxg
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>>65255934
I wonder what changed between making this and Screen Shot.
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>>65249489
>it's pretty redpill to assume all women are lying about rape

wowie zowie, good thing almost no one fucking did that, huh buddy?
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>>65248515
>2016 AOTY.
kej no no no you are mistaken. Swans have been shit since CoG
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>>65257067
Couldn't be any more wrong but good try there buddy.
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>>65250794
you actually believe in this?
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>>65255934
DON'T DO IT, YA FRUITCAKE
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>>65257067
>Swans have been shit since their first album with any dynamics whatsoever
>disregards The Sound
>Love of Life
>Love Will Save You
>93 Ave. B Blues
>Bring The Sun
>Feel Happiness
>shit

fuck off
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>>65257191
>>65257067
Nah on a real Public Castration>CoG>Literal Shit>Swans Discog
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SFTB > TGM = TBK = The Seer > The Gate = NH/NN = WRFYBWTSIOH > Swans Are Dead > MFWGMUARTTS Deluxe > PCIAGI > BTBJTJ > Filth > COG > TGA > WLFTMOI > Cop > LOL > Greed > Holy Money > TBW

Feel free to agree.
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>>65257681
Filth, COG and TGA belong above the live albums.
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>>65254765
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>>65249366
>has solid theory that you don't agree with
>no proof of anything to be found anywhere
>redpill
OK, I fell for the b8.
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>>65253194
>>65253757
>>65253913
>>65254328
>>65254507
Instantly discarding something because it's a low statistic is not a good way of thinking.
Specially when it comes to a subject as serious as rape.
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>>65249489
>acknowledge false rape accusations are statistically very rare

There is actually no real representative study that proves whether or not false rape accusations are statistically rare or not. There are way too many factors and getting such a statistic without either bias or a huge margin of statistical uncertainty. Sure, it would be easy to assume that it's low, but nobody really knows.
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>>65249450
moot has been gone for nearly two years, this post was made four years ago, the traffic has changed since then for one and secondly moot was right traffic didn't increase: it spread disproportionally. You see in ye olde days people used to discover /b/ in the next School Semester (September or so) but by next May they would get bored of it and go to other boards like /mu/ (resulting in phenomena where /mu/ would be called /um/). This all changed around 2013/4 when people stopped going to /b/ as their first board and started on "main boards" to begin with meaning the quality of those boards decreased.

So yes, Summerfags don't exist anymore because 90% of users of each board (with two exceptions) are eternal Summerfags who didn't go through the organic process.
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>>65259767
Damn, son.
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>>65257681
>public castration that low
Lmao
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Is like you people are waiting at the edge of your sits for some celebrity drama to unleash your sexual frustrations, you have Johnny Deep already, go and call him a sexist pig, leave Gira alone.
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>Pitchfork will ironically follow the James Rolfe's Ghostbusters video example and write an article about refusing to review The Glowing Man "NOT BECAUSE GIRA IS A RAPIST"
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no more threads until it leaks please
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>>65255934

Don't do it, ya fruitcake
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>Rape-core
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>>65255934
don't do it, ya fruitcake!!!!
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>>65253194
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>>65257681
Lol at Holy Money and Greed bring that low
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