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https://rateyourmusic.com/~EtInArcadiaEgo
https://rateyourmusic.com/~floatings
i made a video today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad3nNSEh5wQ
>>65200618
Do you have autism
>>65200673
idts
hi
https://rateyourmusic.com/~fugitivus
wdhmbt
Good morning /mu/, how are you today?
Still looking for some nice Summer music if anybody has any recs.
https://rateyourmusic.com/~CtrlMaster
what's your philosophy on rating singles?
>>65201739
what's your philosophy on THIS
*unzips dick*
>>65201739
>what's your philosophy on rating music?
You sound like a faggot
>>65201745
>>65201748
you both sound 14
https://rateyourmusic.com/~TEthearbiter
>>65200873
Nice video
>>65200873
hello
>>65201606
>how are you today?
Could be better.
>Still looking for nice Summer music if anybody has any recs.
Flipper's Guitar - Three Cheers for Our Side maybe?
>>65201767
holy embryo
https://rateyourmusic.com/~blebbio
https://rateyourmusic.com/~blebbio
https://rateyourmusic.com/~blebbio
https://rateyourmusic.com/~underr
>>65201739
I have another account for that
>>65201800
>when you make a conscious effort to try to be an avant teen
XD
>>65200618
why is unwound not in your fives anymore :(
>>65201814
>I have another account for that
why?
https://rateyourmusic.com/~MalcolmXWing
>>65201606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=wDmjE7qBy3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTiDUM7QW70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4WOudrcMz8
>>65201739
Don't do it.
>>65201767
Thanks for the rec, hope your day has a turn for the better.
>>65201879
They bloat my ratings count
https://rateyourmusic.com/~boldfaure
It's cute when people try to debate music with you and they don't know shit about it.
>>65201786
That's right, some of these things apply to me. What now, nerd?
>>65201897
Yeah it's just that I didn't get too much sleep. Will be going to bed in a while after the album I'm listening to is over.
>>65201890
>all this music
Wew, thanks Malcolm always can count on you.
>>65201739
Unless it's one of those EP length singles (that features stuff you couldn't review otherwise) then don't.
>>65201922
my sides
>>65201739
I rate them if they don't appear on another release or if they contain songs that don't appear on another release.
>>65201922
Well at least that can be fixed, sleep well m8.
>>65201739
i just rate them. why wouldn't i? rym also is severely missing a bunch of 90s and before dance singles and it's too much of a hassle for me to add all the ones i have/listened to so i never rate those
>>65201959
Yeah maybe I should contribute more desu.
>>65201999
Thanks, man. Also, nice trips.
>>65202017
dance singles and single music sure but rating rock or pop off-album singles?
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/glenn_branca/the_ascension/
>post-rock
lmao
>>65202066
ONLY WE CAN CHANGE RYM
>>65202125
Hello 260, why no ratings?
>>65202143
I'm boldfaure, idk who they are.
>>65201827
how normie do you have to be to not be considered avant teen?
>>65202158
Normies don't have a rym account.
>>65202258
Yeah some do
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/elayblooze/rating33738730
guys
what is an avant-teen and am I one
I'm ~floatings
>>65202353
An avant-teen is a person who listens to 20th century classical but is ignorant of the previous 1000 years of classical.
Similarly with free/avantgarde jazz but being ignorant of Jazz's past.
>>65202475
non avant garde Jazz sucks tho
>>65202583
No, you suck and are a loser.
>>65201800
that Shakir comp is phenomenal
https://rateyourmusic.com/~JackAnderson94
I find the avant-teen thing hilarious
>>65202583
as does most pre20th century classical. that doesnt mean you should remain ignorant of it. music is about understanding and learning not enjoyment
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/exdeath/hyper_chiptune_top_101_x_turbo/
Cool list
>>65202884
>music is about understanding and learning not enjoyment
lmfao
>>65202475
free jazz like Anthony Braxton is really lame and annoying but Coltrane's various sax freakouts are amazing
>>65202950
no he's right but only on the basis of spiritual development, and that's it
>>65202950
o yea as well as educational development but that goes with learning
>>65202884
If I wanted to learn something I'd read a book not listen to the pop music of the 1700s. Are you also the kind of kid that has to tell everyone about how smart you are for skimming through Joyce novels? My guess is yes.
>>65202158
Caring is the first sign. It's like you know someone is a fag when they tell you that fag is an offensive word. Fucking fag.
>>65202958
braxton is a real jazz genius f4m
>>65203064
>the pop music of the 1700s.
I hope you don't mean Mozart by this because he assuredly was not pop music.
>>65203064
>If I wanted to learn something I'd read a book not listen to the pop music of the 1700s.
there are some idea that can only be conveyed through sound retard. in fact the most profound understandings and communications abandon all the barriers placed through linguistics.
>>65203167
Just because you're illiterate doesn't mean you can make shit up. I get it a song sounded really sad, so you felt sad. A song sounded really happy, and thus you were happy. That's not learning shit; it's called an emotional response. "Man this one piece had no coherence, and I learned all about how I was free from societal constraints." No, you're a child realizing you can think for yourself. Go read a fucking book.
>>65203156
I mean all of it. Just like how jazz as a genre is pop music. You can delude yourself all you want because m-muh art, but that does not make it any more or less pop music of its time. Next you're gonna go on about how Michelangelo wasn't the pop painter of his time because look at all the different types of painting in the pre-modernist eras.
>>65203249
Mozart was actively shunned because his music was too erudite for the tastes of his benefactors, shut up about shit you don't understand.
>>65203280
>talking about a genre as a whole
>but mozart bkb
Man, way to really avoid a point completely there.
>>65203280
you can say the same thing about Kanye
all music is "pop music" and you're a moron
>>65203311
I literally never said Kanye wasn't pop though. And no clearly not all music is pop music.
>>65203302
I said >>65203156
So why did you reply to me you fucking moron.
>>65203311
Kanye is not shunned because his music is too erudite, he's shunned because it's just legitimately not good in plenty of ways.
>>65203340
I wasn't talking to you you filthy weeb trash, do you know how quotes work?
and yes it is, music is a popular medium, not art
hey rate my song i produced and rapped and mastered and did everything on
https://soundcloud.com/yenzy/heatcheck
>>65201919
what do you think about that recording boldfaure
i think it's really good
>>65203366
No, I don't. I'm retarded sorry.
>>65203359
Kanye isn't shunned at all. You're just not listening to him because of your own percieved superiority.
>>65200584
No, these threads are always so cringe.
Tumblr; the thread
>>65203519
What was that 'No' in response to? there was no question there
>>65203440
>>65203519
shut up, embryos
>>65200618
lol
>>65200584
kek
>>65200873
.....
https://rateyourmusic.com/~bobfedex
yo
how u doin
>>65203555
>he's right and I can't argue
>might as well spout a retarded meme
quoting you're logic btw
I really wish /daily/ posters would stop posting in RYM threads. you're all embryos with garbage taste.
oops
i haven't been in this cancerfest for a few days
https://rateyourmusic.com/~nothingandnowhere
>>65203636
shut up, embryo
>>65201606
good
>>65201767
good
>>65201800
trash
>>65201800
pathetic
>>65201890
okay
>>65203672
you didnt do mine
>>65203667
>>65203690
>embryo and a weeb
>>65200873
>tfw no mallgoth gf
why even live
>>65201919
cringe
>>65202632
spick
>>65203621
>talk talk
>nas
literally garbage
>>65203659
hilariously generic
>>65203684
if you're >>65201814 I meant to say you're pathetic
>>65202125
what album?
>>65203768
>i crave so much attention that im going to make it to where it seems like my opinions are important enough to listen to!
>>65203798
no im >>65200584
>>65203719
Man, you sure did get me with that shitty meme.
>>65201814
you look like a spick, too. fuck mexicans.
>>65203807
I did, I said "kek".
>>65203834
what the fuck does that mean?
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Synusoid
hey howdy hello
>tfw no emo nightcore comps on rym to give 5s too
>tfw emo nightcore remixes still aren't getting played at the clubs on the daily
Emo nightcore for this feel? Starting with the obvious choice of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Cao9YIi2I
>>65203841
>Aby Ngana Diop
>Blonde on Blonde
your whole list is shit like that, you're trying to hard.your account is probably fake.
>>65203896
>you're trying too hard
speak for yourself mister
https://rateyourmusic.com/~floatings
>>65203896
imagine having trouble accepting other people's tastes in music
what a fag you are
>>65203920
>imagine having trouble accepting other people's tastes in music
speak for yourself mister
>>65202583
Suck my balls. You've probably listened to less than 15 releases of any type of jazz.
>>65203887
Turns out nightcore isn't even a genre on rym. We need to fix this to be honest guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JitVb9P59bk
>>65203896
I noticed this account a couple days ago
>Aby Ngana Diop, 5 stars
>Death Grips, all below 3 stars
I agree, top kek.
>>65203896
since when does liking rolling stone darling bob dylan mean you try too hard
and how is 2500 albums over six years at all suspect
btw i was one of the first people to latch onto liital show some fucking respect kid
>>65203948
it just means you have boring generic pseudo patrician dad taste
>>65203887
>he hasnt given a 5 to the goat emoe crabcore comp (night core remix)
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/the_ecchi_boiz/the_ecchi_boiz_present__someday_came_suddenly___edm_trap_nightcore_remix__/
>>65203941
lets do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDIBywtetpE
>>65203972
awesome tapes from africa is dad taste? ok kid
wheres your profile btw
>>65203987
if you post anime you're automatically ignored
>>65203987
woah, are you starting to trip or is it just for these threads
https://rateyourmusic.com/~jamaro
>>65200584
i like your taste
can u tell me about AMM's inexhaustible document?
>>65203884
yours too
what would you recommend from PAMPA? I've only heard Isolee's Allowance which I really liked
bm nightcore>emo nightcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQf6GjeAXWc
>>65203249
>Just like how jazz as a genre is pop music.
Jazz was pop until Charlie Parker created modern jazz.
https://rateyourmusic.com/~SporadicSarcasm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqrpe4e0qs
>>65203887
this is my go to feels emo nightcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo81MyOeB6w
>>65203372
missed this post
I enjoy the work and it's concept. Anyone from Darmstadt is worthwhile of course.
>>65203896
>caring this much about someone else's taste
What a cesspool of faggotry this thread is. So this is what the typical RYM cancer lump is like.
>>65204040
Synusoid you faggot you only posted this because you know it's a girl
>>65204053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC2GE1KceSU
>>65204010
screamo nightcore >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5h0LueZVGI
>>65203931
???
>>65203987
Gonna have to give that a hard 5.
>>65203997
>ignoring anime on an anime imageboard
>trying to argue it isn't about anime anymore
Yeah, sure and why do we have a Japanese admin who filters shit to romaji then?
>>65204010
Okay maybe. But like call me when you start making nightcore of Drowning the Light or LLN or something.
>>65204013
>hating pop so much you have to pretend charlie parker can make an entire genre into something else
Look pop doesn't have to be a bad thing. It just is what it is.
>>65204014
Good profile.
>>65204021
Yeah, I feel you though.
>>65204080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqx9VQid3QY
ok guys thats enough nightcore for one thread
>>65204057
who's the girl:)
>>65204002
>What would you recommend from PAMPA?
Actually just now starting to explore the label. I know I have a few releases added but I haven't listened to them yet.
I'll get back to you if I find anything really interesting, but maybe try DJ Koze? He has some really good tracks on the Kompakt Total comps (10 and 11 especially).
>>65204125
Nightcore is saving rym threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7RtqRWqFco
>>65204125
true
we need more amvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP6YuJ6wyvI
What's the most patrician record you own?
>tfw a user you like doesn't add you back
why do none of the cool users want to be my friends on rym ;_;
>tfw someone makes fun of your rym prof
emo nightcore for this feel?
spinning this rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTdsQKMF9ts
>>65204057
who's the girl:)
>>65204133
yeah, figured that DJ Koze might be the place to start since I enjoyed Amygdala
>>65204143
a chinese folk music record that i couldnt rate on rym because it wasnt on there
>>65204147
same
>>65204142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZCx-XXtv0
>>65204147
I wouldn't want to be your friend either if you aren't down with the emoe nightcore trend.
>>65204119
Who said I disliked pop? The best pop in human history is jazz. I'm just dropping some knowledge that jazz became more legitimized after the birth of bebop in the 40's/50's, because most people here don't seem to know anything about music.
>>65204001
i accidentally left it on ;0
>>65204142
my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPL2p5_8SBo
https://rateyourmusic.com/~74av
>>65204147
music for that feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euvFTUge9sc
>>65204002
>can u tell me about AMM's inexhaustible document?
quiet improvisation that sounds a lot like keith rowe's collaborations from the last 15 years in terms of textures but added in is feldman-esque restraint (i need to listen to more of tilbury's feldman recordings) that bubble to trademark AMM volatility in the second track
>nightcore
if somebody offered me a million dollars and a whole year to come up with a more autistic music subgenre I'd have a really hard time
![IMG_0472[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/36mFTo6.jpg "IMG_0472[1].jpg")
>>65204161
>a chinese folk music record that i couldnt rate on rym because it wasnt on there
that reminds me
DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW MOONRUNES
I GOT THIS RECORD LIKE 2-3 YEARS AGO AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT IS
>>65204200
21st century "classical" has already been done tho
>emoe night core weeb fuck comes in here drunk ranting about everything being pop music
>people continue talking to this fucking embryo
im proud of you guys. weve gone through quite a bit without getting carried away on pointless RYM drama that has nothing to do with this site
>>65204143
also got some Latin American recordings of some Tchaikovsky type stuff that used to belong to my grandmother
>>65204161
>a chinese folk music record that i couldnt rate on rym because it wasnt on there
so add it to the database ya dingus
>>65204147
Not like you'd ever talk to em anyway
>>65204178
Okay, I'll give you bebop tried to be more artistic. However, the genre went back to being pop music pretty fast with leaders like Brubeck and Davis and the likes. And if people here are ignorant enough to think Davis wasn't pop then they are too far up their own asses to have heard most of his work.
>>65204256
>mad people like me more than you
>>65204199
oh i like Feldman so i'll check this out
>quiet improvisation
so is it comparatively less abrasive than AMMusic? or just a different kind of concept / approach
>>65204248
that sounds cool i dont know abt it
wanna upload a sample of it? im interested
>>65204270
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ never considered that ill do it now
>>65204254
What 21st century classical have you heard?
>>65204305
>wanna upload a sample of it? im interested
I don't have a way of recording it.
I did see that one of the the LP's (I had casted this thing to my collection for a long time) had a note that said "Fantasia of Veena" which brought me here: https://www.discogs.com/Kinichi-Nakanoshima-Koto-And-Flute/release/6578854
>>65204305
yeah AMMusic is completely different. different in approach which leads it to be sonically entirely different. it's really a forebear for the collaborations rowe would go on to do with various EAI artists, except with cello and piano instead of sine waves
>>65204309
Morton Feldman is good example of terrible music
>>65204285
Brubeck and Davis are mostly know for cool/modal jazz, which is an offshoot of bebop. Miles Davis popularized jazz fusion, which may be considered pop to how important is is to music afterward. If you think Miles Davis is solely pop music, which of course he isn't at all, try listening to his early stuff which very heavily bebop.
>>65204393
How is Morton Feldman terrible?
>>65203801
The Ascension.
>le it sounds like le my favorite 3rd wave post rock bands *drools* it le post rock duh
Is Mineral nightcore the only way to listen to Mineral? My vote is yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jl0qdTdYwg
>>65204412
Nothing happens in his music. I once heard someone describe his music (while being in his presence and speaking positively) as breathing. Lol I would think music can be something more than what we do 24/7 and completely ignore. Anyone who has sat through an entire piece of his is a gullible fool.
>>65203972
bro I'm still waiting for you to post your profile
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Dr_MoonOrGun
>>65204350
ah interesting
is this on the same label as the moonrunes lp? or can you not even identify moonrunes at all
>>65204362
ah cool, im gonna go find that on slsk
thanks
can you guys help me with something only because i wish i was a boy
>>65204494
>Nothing happens in his music.
Well yeah that's the point of it. They're Rothko paintings: they might twist and turn as you contemplate them (signified by the shifting rhythm and occasionally tones) but otherwise it's static, it's simply there. You can't say there's no value in this creative music.
>>65204512
>is this on the same label as the moonrunes lp? or can you not even identify moonrunes at all
I found a catalog number on the moonrune LP boxset. It's SJL17-24. But unfortunately that's not on discogs.
It's apparently traditional japanese classical music.
>>65204405
His early music is not most of his music though, and Brubeck was like the poster boy for white people cool jazz for the masses. I'm just saying as far as jazz goes, Brubeck was no better than Armstrong or Goodman when it came to appeasing masses. His music was just better.
>>65204525
Depends. Are you looking for sick tunes?
>>65203768
wheres your rym faggot
>>65204412
Because his music is repetitive, self-indulgent nonsense. Simple background music for non-musicians who think too highly of themselves.
>>65204534
>you can't say a dumpster doesn't smell good because that's not what a dumpster is for
>>65204566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad3nNSEh5wQ
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBEw9I999o
and then listen to this
>>65204248
contact Deagger on RYM, chances are he's catalogued it already
>>65204571
https://rateyourmusic.com/~WhatIsChaos
>>65204580
so i take it you don't like droning music at all ?
>>65204599
>I don't like Rothko
>>65204619
thank you!
>>65204580
>what is subtlety
This could be a thread on its own but I feel like askin here:
Do you prefer music review youtube videos or more objective, fact-based music essays? I feel like I want to watch more exploration of artists and labels instead of dumb review videos.
Why would people use RYM? Are they just insecure teenagers who want to feel cool with their "legitamate" and "patrician" taste?
>>65203768
>my rym
>generic
what
if whatischaos is ur actual rym then
>likes fall out boy and various emo
w e w
>>65204619
i only just realized that Dagger and Deagger are two different people
>>65204637
>just look at this giant canvas of one color, that should give you some context to this music
kek
>>65204741
neither, make up your own mind. critiquing music is a joke.
>>65204779
>critiquing music is a joke, stick to your own critiques
>>65204778
So you haven't looked at Rothko?
>>65204741
Music doesn't have enough respect to get educated critiques
>>65204620
faggot
>>65204967
who's the boy:)
>>65205009
fucc my boi pucci
>>65204888
you're talking to an angry high school orchestra kid who's trying desperately to demonstrate his deep intellect. of course he hasn't looked at any modern art.
embryo reporting in, add me up
https://rateyourmusic.com/~detcgb
>>65204580
>repetitive
>simple
Feldman is none of these things; you probably think he's a minimalist composer too.
![damien-hirst-shark-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7Et6MLB.jpg "damien-hirst-shark-1[1].jpg")
what's the first postmodern record/composition?
>>65205160
russolo's stuff for first recordings
>>65205160
ignore >>65205171
Russolo was not postmodern in any sense, he was modern/futurist
This is the beginning of postmodernism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwJHu2gSj1A
Luciano Berio’s Sinfonia (1968-69) is another example of challenging new music from another Darmstadt alumnus. The work strays from serialism both formally and harmonically, utilizing a modified sonata form and often certain “tonal” scales, in connection to the neoclassic style and quotations throughout the piece. It also has a series of innumerable quotations, from Beethoven and Mahler to Boulez and Stockhausen throughout the entire piece. In a sense, the crafted composition is one of the first true postmodern musical works: an examination on past material while crafting something undeniably new and revelatory, and “a labyrinthine musical-etymological analysis of the very notion of ‘symphony’.” It also reflects the confusion in classical music and art culture in general at this time: the lines between pop and art were being demolished by a new generation of disillusioned, interrogatory artists - from the visual such as Andy Warhol and Jackson Pollock to the musical such as John Cale and Frank Zappa - that no longer felt bound by the strictures and limitations of their past. Berio’s Sinfonia was not simply a reflection of the struggles in western art music: it was also a reflection of 60’s culture in how all of its musical quotes ask not just “Can we move on from our past?” but also “Should we move on from our past?”
>>65204775
>>likes fall out boy and various emo
i dont see the problem, and youre one to talk for you like the cure, lrd and various mallgoth :^>
>>65205282
hey transgod
>cure
>mallgoth
where ;^)
You guys care way too much about what music other people like. These threads are the worst thing about this board, and you people are the absolute dregs of RYM. Chill the fuck out and fuck the hell off.
>>65205160
russolo's corale/serenata
>>65205359
>thinking this thread could be anything than a rotting pile of shit
take this thread with a grain of salt
>>65205359
t. Montiefag
>>65205359
Eh, it could always be worse
We could be /daily/ shitters
>>65205359
If you don't like nightcore then anything you say doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evdbGey2DEM
>>65205189
how is the end of the '60s the beginning of postmodernism in music? what about all the tape music experiments from the direct post-war period?
>>65205395
>I don't know what postmodernism is
>>65205401
>daily is bad
>>65205421
How is tape music postmodern? Answer me that.
>>65205444
daily is fucking awful
>>65205475
how lol
>>65205475
elaborate please
>>65205475
*tips fedora*
>>65205189
Why are you equating artistic movements with musical sounds
just because he made futurist art doesn't mean his music was modernist
>>65205494
Explain how he's postmodern.
>>65205425
explain how russolo's works are not postmodern
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/phlg/cute_japanese_girls_who_use_rym/
If you're not on this list do you even matter?
>>65205480
>>65205486
>>65205493
It's just a bunch of autistic tripfaggots socializing
>>65205326
the entire genre of goth is a mall, all goth is mallgoth, as it's objectively inferior/cheaper music. it's our degenerate plebeian /mu/ that has tried to make us believe goth is an "essential" genre and that if you don't like it you must be "narrow-minded", a "redditor" who is "born in le right generation" and there's probably some element of the bands' lore and perceived authenticity of expression to it too
>>65205513
hello yellow fever fucktard
go kill yourself
>>65205090
>those recent ratings
I like where this is going. listen to this when you get the chance.
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/auscultation/letreinte_imaginaire/
>>65205510
I'm sorry, you were the person initially claiming they were postmodern. So kindly explain what aspects of his works are postmodern.
>>65205529
it is
but its good on those terms
>>65204580
since when repetitive is a bad thing?
>>65205529
that doesn't seem much worse than these threads
>>65205359
i agree
and yet i still come back, what the fuck is wrong with me?
>>65203768
>cringe
cringe
>>65203818
boat donald drump mage ameriga gr8 agen :--DDD
>>65205475
>reeeeeeee people have a thread I don't like and instead of filtering it and continuing with my life I choose to complain about it
;^)
>>65205513
Who are you and why are you not dead
>>65205530
>objectively
How does anything in music matter "objectively" tho
>>65205282
transcuck.....
>>65205454
postmodernism is just a reaction to the modernist tendency within a discipline. broadly speaking, postmodernism seek to open up the possibilities of what constitutes material for analysis, etc. in music, this meant moving beyond the modernist tendency of serialism into a place of unlimited horizons. tape music introduced the ability to use literally any sound you could manage to record to constitute music. it was both self-referential, as many early tape music practitioners incorporated cuts in the tape or sounds of brief jams of their machines into their compositions, and referential to the outside world (incorporating recordings of past compositions, news reel voices, lectures on music itself, etc.)
>>65205599
unlimited timbral horizons** specifically, because the incorporation of microtones was just a bending of previous musical theory. the move into sound design made music add a complete dimension beyond composition in some notation based partially or fully on western scales and interpretation by a performer
>>65205538
>>65205598
Hello big time /mu/ trip here, I'd rather post in rym threads. Death is too boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBSpfoN5EfY
>>65205538
ni hao
>>65205530
>all goth is mallgoth, as it's objectively inferior/cheaper music
hey hello emo is cheap as fuck
also
>objectively
im not telling you to like goth ;^)
but what you just said now is utter trash
i know you have the same fucking approach to post punk and noise rock and i know you fucking well enough so im not gonna argue with u bc ur a creepi waifufag
>>65205629
>big time /mu/ trip
>has to announce that he is
you're not that big if people don't recognize you
Redpill me on Zizekian/Swipebook/Sine_Nomine/Saturation/Romario3210/oraclee/Berkovsky/diogos/Alsaav/DrMaximus/Effe/Entracte7/geworfenheit/lisa_/OldBullBazarov/kkangpa
>>65205653
>someone typed this out
>>65205629
Did you just literally post nightcore
wow
>>65205653
whoa bud thats a long list
>>65205599
Your idea of tape music is rather incorrect, it was simply a movement of avantgarde music similar to Russolo and Cage and so on prior. It's a continuation of modernism because it was asking for a progression in style and comprehension.
Postmodernism does not mean "anything that isn't serialism." It involves a meta-analysis of the music that surrounds the artist as well as the artist themselves. Tape music does not count because in the 40's and 50's it was simply reinforcing modernist tendencies.
>>65205628
Bending musical theory isn't postmodern either.
>>65205629
>big time /mu/ trip here
Thanks for giving me my new name senpai
>>65205650
Hey anon, big time /mu/ trip here, not knowing who bkb is says more about how new you are than how big bkb is.
>>65205667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmSio0iPyEA
>>65205675
Don't steal my nickname please. Or elmo's other nickname. It's rude.
>>65205508
the use of noise that defied and did not follow any sort of established rules for music and instead mirrored industrial and machinery noise, traditionally amusical sound.
>>65205653
Philosopher, Cultural Critic, Post-Marxist
>>65205691
So what, Schoenberg is postmodern because he got rid of Western tonality?
>>65205640
>>65205598
>not recognizing age old pasta
lmao you niggers
i kinda liked that one Tiamat album desu
>>65205653
swipebook has a facebook profile where he pretends to be evgeni koroliov and he post his tumblrish drawings may be fake idk
>>65205685
>nightcore + chvrches
>not just nightcore, but also CHVRCHES
>fuckign CHVRCHES
>>65205711
post-modernism isn't some binary shift. sure you can recognize post-modern elements in music outside of or predating post-modern music.
>>65205674
>tape music was a continuation of modernism
the incorporation of pop song snippets and self-referential spoken word in musique concrete was an extension of the modernist project? you'll have to explain this claim
>meta-analysis of the music
just because the colloquial notion of postmodernism is that it relies on being "meta" or "ironic" doesn't mean much of anything. you realize that virtually every scholarly discipline has undergone a postmodern critique, right? and that those people were being very earnest? but let's return to the notion of meta-analysis. tape music specifically challenged the division between what was and was not musical material. how is that not meta-analytic? i think the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate why Sinfonia's incorporation of pop elements is uniquely different from, say, Beethoven's incorporation of folksong and then from there to explain how Sinfonia was unique in the mid-century academic avant-garde. you seem to just be constructing resistance around a foregone conclusion and not giving a very cohesive argument for your position.
>bending music theory isn't postmodern
that was my point
>>65205736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_i6fVqtJiY
>>65205720
>tiamat
>not accepting ur loss
btw what pasta is that desu its so truthful to /mu/'s onions it's almost irrecognizable
https://rateyourmusic.com/~todestrieb
>>65200816
whos the girl?:)
>>65205653
geworfenheit is a nazi, Sine_Nomine is some random Russian avant-teen or whatever, Zizekian likes Slavoj Zizek, dunno enough about the rest really
>>65205720
Oh sorry, haven't seen the pasta before and it sounds too much like something a lot of people actually think in this place so I just kinda assumed it wasn't a meme
>>65205763
The entire genre of rap is a meme, all rap is memerap, as it's objectively inferior/cheaper music. It's our degenerate plebeian /mu/ that has tried to make us believe rap is an "essential" genre and that if you don't like it you must be "narrow-minded", a "redditor" who is "born in le wrong generation" and there's probably some racial element to it too. Rap music has no staying power. All of rap is just a neo-rockist sub-genre of top-40 pop, with a "urban" paint job. This music doesn't stand the test of time, it's a fad. That's why rappers are discussed about like fashion. Image/fashion/numbers sold are actually considered when talking about them. Rap is just a really cheap/lazy form of music anyways. The majority of rap beats are just stealing (MUHH "SAMPLING") another artist's music, looping it over a generic drumbeat while someone "raps" over it. The "technical aspects" of rapping are not hard at all. That's why there's 14 year old white girls on YouTube uploading themselves flowing with ease and speed, dropping multis like it's nothing. But because they don't fit the image of a "rapper", no one would take seriously. I've listened to it all from backpacker shit like cLOUDDEAD and Atmosphere to the "golden days" of Public Enemy and Eric B. and Rakim to instrumental stuff like J Dilla and DJ Shadow to the 90s with Nas and Mobb Deep to the CLT approved A Tribe Called Quest and Digital Planets to today like Kendrick and Kanye. All rap is meme rap. All of it. Stop spamming it.
like cmon "goth is a mall" shoulda tipped you off but youre literally retarded sometimes aintcha?
there's nothing to win or lose here so what am i supposed to accept
>>65205740
>>65205753
You can anachronistically claim anything is postmodern, but what's important is what was actually at the time being postmodern and what wasn't.
Beethoven incorporating folksong and Renaissance composers using L'Homme Arme is not postmodern, because there was no modern style they were revolting against.
Berio's Sinfonia is postmodern because, while perhaps not wholly rebelling against modernism (he was a part of it after all), it questions classical music's past through its many quotations and deliberately asks the listener where to go from here? It's entirely different from some tape composer looking for new sounds: instead it asks about the value of old sounds.
whats some /rym/ approved nightcore?
my vote goes for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiA1ptts5Kk
;_;
>>65205828
/rym/ approved nightcore
they call it "bubblegum bass"
>>65205821
>instead it asks about the value of old sounds
okay, but you realize this is not the only criterion for postmodernism, right? if your definition is so narrow that only highly referential and interrogatory pieces count as postmodern, then postmodern composition is a very narrow field indeed. in your formulation, John Cage, for example, would be excluded from the postmodern school, which i think many would find laughable.
>>65205828
I speak for the entire rym nightcore community when I say this is the nightcore song to end all nightcore songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzq9dJ42GCk
>>65205806
is this from some hiphop general? bc i dont visit those
2white4it
I dont even get what that means so i skip over it
>>65205821
>because there was no modern style they were revolting against.
Corale / Serenata did though. he challenged contemporary music by overlaying it its opposite: amusical, mechanical drudgery.
>>65205865
nah it's been spammed in every hip hop related thread for some time 2 years ago, and some guy who posts in this kind-of-general had it up as a revew of MBDTF so that reminded me
>>65205861
That's an example of Berio's specific work, and particularly it's third movement. Postmodernism in general is just meta-analysis. But again, it's a specific time period.
OK here's what I'm saying: earlier we were shitting on people labeling The Ascension as Post-Rock. Post-Rock might be present in some aspects of The Ascension, however it is not Post-Rock because it was nowhere near the ideas of Post-Rock during its creation.
>>65205890
He wasn't revolting against Schoenberg, he was revolting against the old style. He's a modernist.
>>65205933
yet you say here:
>Berio's Sinfonia is postmodern because, while perhaps not wholly rebelling against modernism (he was a part of it after all), it questions classical music's past
questioning beethoven is post-modern?
>>65205915
>postmodernism in general is just meta-analysis
you realize that you are categorically wrong here, right? postmodernism in most academic discipline is the rejection of rationalism and determinism. this is what i meant when i said that relying on colloquial use of postmodern, which is generally related to labeling random popular music, film, and tv productions as "meta" or "ironic" is very poor form for musicological analysis. as i said before, you seem to have a foregone conclusion that Berio is the beginning of postmodernism in academic music, but you're completely mistaken. i mean, your first hint should be that if 1968 is the first time academic music manages to produce a postmodern composition, they were beaten to the punch by popular musicians like Frank Zappa in 1966. it seems much more likely to me that people ingrained in the academy, which had its postmodern revolution begin to emerge with the Frankfurt School, would be much more sensitive to these wider intellectual developments and be reflecting that sensitivity in their music much more quickly than a random dude in California.
>>65205970
It questions EVERYTHING from Beethoven to Boulez.
If you don't know the work then it's going to be hard to talk to you about this.
>>65205996
You didn't read the second half of my reply.
>>65206005
you literally said it's post-modern for questioning classical music's past. and you continue to narrow the definition to support your made-up mind.
how do you make the genres show under releases in your ratings? is it subscription only?
>>65206035
Listen if you don't know the work, it's not worth discussing with you because you can't understand what I'm saying.
I've studied the score to the Berio as well as countless other works in the mid/late 20th century. I know these pieces.
Just because you don't doesn't mean that your confusion = I'm wrong.
