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Symphony edition.
Post your favorite symphonies.
>inb4 how do I into classical
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bamp
You have 5 seconds to name a better string quartet that Shostakovich's No. 8
protip: you can't
Bumpů
>>65198436
story on gif?
and schoenberg's op10
>>65198436
Schoenberg's No. 3
>>65198436
Bartok 4
Haas 3
Psathas Abhisheka
Debussy Quartet
Grieg Quartet
Beethoven 14
Haydn Op. 20 No. 4
guys im trying to find the album with stravinsky's histoire du soldat and ebony concerto, conducted by boulez. I thought i got it from the archives before but i cant find it there, and all i can find on rutracker is boulez conducting stravinsky. any help?
>>65198447
wats the paper?
>>65198687
writing a song out in tabs for guitar. Literally the first time in years. Sheet music is great for studying fugues and orchestration, etc. But tabs I find much easier and quicker for guitar. Plus it all gets recorded anyway, not too much point having the exact rhythms and dynamics etc.
does staples sell sheet music?
>>65198627
>unironically thinking Haydn's Op 20 is better than Op 33
Sasuga poly.
>>65199427
Op 33 is preeeetty good.
damn, most of Haydn quartets are fucking great. You know there's going to be a few fugal final movements in there which I find neat.
>>65199598
>deriving his enjoyment of the Haydn quartets solely from the fugues (which disappear entirely after Op 20)
Clown without jest. Sage goes in all fields.
>>65199811
>deriving his enjoyment of the Haydn quartets solely from the fugues
feel free to continue assuming how or why I enjoy Haydn quartets, but I must warn you, you're not doing very well so far!
>>65198021
I think Tchaikovsky is my favorite. I realize he's a bit late, but Nutcracker has such a powerful and eerie vibe. Swan Lake can be a tempest at times. Piano concerto no 1 in b flat minor has a very compelling beginning and ending with a jungle-book feel in the middle.
Then of course there's Overture of 1812, just a bombshell of a song with french samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ
This is one of the few versions with actual cannons and a choir. just drives me insane. the lyrics are haunting over napoleon's defeat.
Recently I've gotten into Wagner (Der Ring) and he has a knack for really elaborate scores.
Obv I've already heard the typical claire de lune and moonlight sonata and w/e
>>65200409
Marche slave - bamberg symphony orchestra is another goodie
What do you guys think about Martinu's symphonies? Which one is your favorite? Favorite recordings?
My favorite is the 3rd one and pic related is an amazing recording.
Looking for someone with a good ear and knowledge to identify an interment for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwO6nWCFVMY
Would like to know what the solo is that starts up at 0:40. Organ, Clarinet, Oboe?
>>65200409
Since this thread is about Symphonies you should listen to Tchaikovsky's Symphonies, since they are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHAfvUFtCIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzq6SALTz-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Lxc6w61J4
>>65201080
Sounds like Oboe to me, but I'm not sure.
How would you categorize Gustav Holst's work? I heard some people call him a classical composer but I feel that this is a strange title to give him since he lived and worked so much later than the rest of the classical composers and his work is more modern in style.
>>65198507
Some people just want to watch the world burn
>>65201394
They mean he wrote art music; not that he was alive during the Classical era.
What are some really good, somewhat technical (piano) suites/albums/pieces?
I want to try and visualise them mathematical beauty in classic music again with psychedelics (psilocin). Last time I tried various violin concertos, mainly Beethoven and Tchaikovsky. However, those gave me these jittery feels.
>>65198436
Mozart 14-21
Beethoven 7-16
Schoenberg 3 and 4
>>65198447
nice
Hopefully one day I'll have 50+ of those
When I become a musicologist or whatever the fuck happens
>>65201394
>How would you categorize Gustav Holst's work?
shitty
Classical music is the overarching term for western art music that's much more convenient.
Classical is also a style but this isn't hard to tell the difference between....
>>65201738
Do you really dislike Holst? How strange. I have yet to meet someone who does.
>>65201884
He's extremely overrated by entry level classical kids.
>>65201993
Don't act so smug just because you are not an "entry level classical kid". Just because Holst isn't literally the best composer to ever live does not mean that people can't like him. And yeah, he is overrated but overrated =/= bad.
>>65202046
He wrote unadventurous romantic music in a time when the memory of Debussy and the upstart Schoenberg surrounded him.
>>65202077
You're right.
>>65200966
lol
>>65203332
what?
>>65203971
lol
>>65198021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyd0jjTVGgE
>>65198447
Fuck off poly.
>>65202077
So did Sibelius tho
Who /Schumann/ here
1st movement of the 1st never fails to make me happy
>>65198436
True story:
I just got home and was meaning to ask this general what his best quartet was.
Spooky...
>>65198021
>Post your favorite symphonies.
Brahms first.
>>65201680
if you're looking for mathematical beauty, Bach's inventions are great. On the other side of the spectrum, Debussy is quite mathematical too.
And then there's schoenberg's suite for piano (op 25) or Shostakovich's 24 prelude and fugues.
>>65198627
Most of these are just edgelord music. Not even harmonically, although some are. Most are based on themes and phrases that never go beyond LE INCONGRUITY XDDDDDD. Barely above Frank Zappa's excretions.
Although Shostakovich's 8th quartet is nothing to write home about, it is an internally consistent piece of music anchored in an interplay of motifs and overarching thematic shifts with no need for artifices or jump scares.
Is there a more pointless exercise in imitation in the common practice period than Shostakovich's preludes and fugues?
>maek bach music
>maek dissonant
At least the fugues are mercifully small.
>>65198021
Schubert's 9
Bruckner's 8
Mahler's 7
Beethoven's 6
Sibelius' 5
Tchaikovsky's 4
Copland's 3
Rachmaninoff's 2
Brahms' 1
>>65205224
>jump scares
>getting jumped scared from music
Are you a pussy m8?
>>65206661
Yes. No bully please.
>>65207172
HAHAHAHA
>>65201680
Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier (Books I&II) and The Art of Fugue are about as mathematical as you can get.
>>65207207
>Not connecting to the music in such a deep intellectual and emotional level that you can be spooked by the music
>>65206661
>listening to Tchaikovsky's 6th
>end of exposition pppppp bassoon
>turn volume up to hear
>ff next chord
Shit scared the living daylights out of me
What is the most underrated Beethoven symphony and why is it the 2nd
People talk about the 4th and 8th all the time as the underrated ones but no one talks about the 1st or 2nd.
>>65208170
Beethoven=excrement.
>>65208257
>Beethoven=excrement.
No. That is not the case at all.
>>65208257
Boulez pls go you're supposed to be dead
>NPR
Im kinda new to piano, can you guys rec some fun stuff to play thats not too hard
>>65205224
Bartok 4 is just as "internally consistent" if not moreso than shostakovich's 8th quartet.
Clearly you don't know shit about art music if you think Frank Zappa should be mentioned at all alongside any of those pieces or composers.
>>65208407
Arvo Part - Fur Alina
>>65208407
Satie's Gnossiennes
>>65208454
Minimalism is boring to listen to and play
>>65208566
not sacred minimalism. Dont forget I'm recommending "fun stuff to play thats not too hard" no need to add your 2 cents, instead recommend something. Try to post constructively! its not hard
>>65206661
I've seen these happen in concerts. If you're not prepared, loud noises make you jump. Its more human reaction than anything else.
Lets not forget the Haydn surprise symphony
>>65205224
yikes, you need to get laid
>>65208597
>rec some fun stuff
perhaps you should post what was requested
Guys I might get my string quartet performed by a youth ensemble
>>65207207
When I listen to dvorak 9 while falling asleep the loud start of the 3rd movement will startle me awake after the calm 2nd
recommend me some good violin sonatas pls
>>65209559
Kreutzer
>>65198021
>Post your favorite symphonies
brahms 2;
bruckner 7;
ives 4;
mozart 35;
sibelius 6;
vaughan-williams "london";
webern op.21.
Good recording of Prokofiev's 2nd Piano Concerto?
>>65209951
john browning, freddy kempf
Not baiting, but what exactly is it that makes this worse than a piano concerto from Chopin or Debussy or any of those lot? How exactly would you explain the difference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAtWd_7ZpF8
>>65210650
first of all, it's not a concerto, it's a piece for solo piano. second: it has no development whatsoever.
>>65210752
Yeah I realised as soon as I posted that concerto wasn't the right term, pleb level exposed. I know it's disjointed, but what about if you consider each segment individually? Could they potentially be part of something that a 'proper' composer wrote? And if not, why?
>>65210823
i guess if satie is considered a proper composer than yeh, sufjan can be part of that but again: there is no development, the piece doesn't go anywhere. it's elevator music at best. sorry !!
>>65206515
eww shit taste anon
>>65198021
Mahler 10
>>65206515
>Copland
>>65211178
has there ever been a more jewish looking person than aaron copland (kaplan) in all eternity please?
>>65198436
Death and the Maiden from Schubert. One of my favourite pieces of all time desu senpai.
>>65211308
Old Stravinsky
>>65198436
haydn sunrise quartet. 10/10 A++ perfection.
>>65211420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKfRd9Be7VU
The GOAT performance.
>>65211629
thanks for the link. perhaps a bit too assertive for me, but a very good recording nonetheless. personally i like it a bit more relaxed, angeles quartet to me is just fine (and tokyo qt as well).
>>65211369
the 15th quartet, string quintet, and 2nd piano trio are all better chamber works by Schubert, pham
>b-but muh minor key
>>65211930
agreed with the quintet & possibly quartet 15. but the the 2nd piano trio? hell no. the slow movement is nice enough (but goes on for far too long) but the rest is nothing special.
How do you guys feel about Orchestras performing excerpts from operas in their programmes?
I don't really like this but I'm wondering if its really okay or its just me being picky.
STUPENDOUS playing in DSCH quartet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXs4AaRxUsk
>>65211308
Bernstein has a semitic look.
>>65212157
No. I prefer when they are played in full and especially when they aren't just instrumentals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6BfaafbAzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTM7r7eFrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI8XoOwA_LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw1sqOoBFH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnuxTtKJuws
Bump
Why is Schubert so underrated in /mu/?
what are some good classical guitar pieces?
How do I learn to properly analyze classical music? I really like almost all of what I hear but I'd like to know the reasons why I like it.
>>65216228
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S64393648
>>65216337
thanks anon
>>65208710
>not enjoying playing the yearning simplicity of fur alina
have a heart
>>65209559
Pic related
>>65216228
go to university, study music.
>>65216107
Not sure how many of these links still work, but:
Weiss - Fantasie, Ciacona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22E_OqBYPl8
Rodrigo - Tres Piezas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oqZ-17m-qU
Duarte - Homage to Antonio Lauro, Op. 83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifxfr-OeP7A
Albeniz - Asturias
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A
Dowland, Schubert, Henze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTFNOkRcac
Gaspar Sanz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SP0wg4-1cI
Angel Villoldo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DlLOtibrzU
Joaquin - Serenata española
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo1VpmSQUo
>>65215544
i was always under the the impression that he was enjoyed by many here, just not mentioned frequently. perhaps, that is not the case, though i hope not. maybe that makes him underrated
I was in a music theory class and my professor played a piece by a hungarian composer that based the music on hungarian folk music, he was trying to show how something in a minor key can still be upbeat, does anyone know what piece it was off that? I really liked it but I can't remember the name for the life of me.
>>65217512
Was it Hungarian Rhapsody No. 5 by Brahms?
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_UG2UnM7o
what does /classica/ think of kodak black? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona78uz3f_I
>>65218943
Extremely low quality with uninspired production. Even by popular music standards, this is trash..
>>65204868
You are correct. Not sure he ever topped that one. Maybe the third came close. He's got some nice chamber music too.
Should all classical, baroque, romantic pieces be played in their respective historical tuning? Do you think it makes a difference?
>>65198021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgUmpSWB-fc
>>65222586
Thanks for this.
>>65217512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej5r6H__ODM
????
>>65221938
If performed on historical instruments then it would be a good idea to use respective tuning
>>65217512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrzjqfxHpo0
?
>>65217512
it must've been a dance in bulgarian rhythm by Bartok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeUTzCvoBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RMv9I9C5H4
>>65223420
repost the first link again
>>65223454
sorry there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeUTzCvoBEQ
>>65223269
What about using modern instruments with the historical tuning of a pieces period a no-no?
And with period instruments in general, does it really matter or is just up to personal preferences whether you use a proper instrument or just any modern instrument?
>>65223592
>does it really matter or is just up to personal preferences whether you use a proper instrument or just any modern instrument?
Personal preference. Believe it or not period instruments are mainly for the benefit of the performer rather than the listener.
>>65223660
Would you care to elaborate?
>>65223676
Taruskins arguments basically goes like
>mainstream performances need to be rejected not because of their anachronism, but because mainstream musicians who are brought up in the usual way, before his age of consent, will have his musical tastes and responses formed at a pre-conscious level which gives rises to a uniformity of performance style that is inadequate to deal with the enormous stylistic diversity of the vast (and ever expanding) classical repertory
>rejecting this leads to a vacuum that cannot (and can never) be filled by fragmentary remains of the past. To do what is good for the music, we need values of our own and the courage to live up to them.
>This cannot be provided by intuition since "they are thoroughly domesticated beasts, trained to run along narrow paths by long years of unconscious conditioning, endowed with vast reserves of cliche, naive posture, and nonsense. If you are a trained musician, what you will find if you scratch your intuition will be the unexamined mainstream, your most ingrained responses, treacherously masquerading as imagination.
>>65223770
>One beings by challenging one's assumption about the music, especially the assumptions we do not know we are making.
>"And here, in my view, is where the 'old instruments' are valuable and perhaps indispensable in achieving truly authentic performances: as part of the mental process I am describing. The unfamiliarity of the instrument forces mind, hand and ear out of their familiar routines and into more direct confrontation with the music. It has a kind of Entfremdungseffekt which serves the same purpose as modernist literature. The presentation of a familiar object (the music) in an unfamiliar context (the instrument and the new problem it poses) forces one to see it freshly, more immediately, more observantly-in a word, more authentically. Notice, though, that this is primarily a heuristic benefit for the player, and only secondarily an aesthetic benefit to the listener.
>>65223770
>>65223814
Very interesting. Thank you.
just finished an essay and its 6 in the morning, i think im gonna pass ou..
>>65224497
Post the essay.
Symphony of the new world from Dvorak
I'm looking for composers who use rhythm in an interesting way (Stravinsky Orff) and composers who borrow musical elements from various cultures around the globe (like Lou Harrison)
Any suggestions?
>>65198021
Weill - Symphony no. 1
>>65226422
>borrow from various cultures around the globe
Maybe something like Part? Minimalists and other modern composers tend to draw from foreign cultures.
>>65217512
if it helps the upbeat hungarian style is called the furiant, as opposed to the dumka which is slow and lamenting. But Bartok was known for basing stuff of of Hungarian folk music without it being painfully apparent.
>>65226422
>>65223588 would be a good answer
And then I also know Brazilian composers like Villa Lobos
>>65226869
And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iR_QdFh6A
>>65221938
>>65223592
>>65223269
Tonal harmony in general is not very important. The reason why there are almost no recordings in unequal temperament is that the difference is remarkably unremarkable - some beating here, no beating there...yay. It's qualitatively indistinguishable from what can otherwise be attributed to recording quality or conditions, and instrumental or interpretive idiosyncrasies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0-M4Pdz5bw
>>65228559
>1569+447
>still no complete recording of Palestrina's first book of motets
>>65228711
Can you rec me some recordings of his motets?
Any current (living) composers making good shit nowadays? How do you find them?
>>65229397
There are tons of good living composers. It depends on what you like. There is minimalism, neoclassical and other forms. Any particular type you are interested in?
>>65229638
Probably neoclassical. I've never been able to handle minimalism, atonality, etc (even if they aren't the same thing). If neoclassicism is the continuation of art music in a more tonalidirection, then that's the stuff I'm looking for.
>>65229843
>Any current (living) composers making good shit nowadays?
https://soundcloud.com/margatroid-derek/dzzpppy1
>>65226422
>composers who borrow musical elements from various cultures around the globe
try with Claude Vivier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTySpIeThy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIr8iPb_jGo
>composers who use rhythm in an interesting way
uhm, i enjoy Ravel and Bartok....
>>65229397
i enjoy Bernhard Gander (video related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cta_cYxGbqA )
am i mental /mu/?
>>65229843
why not just deepen your understanding of older music instead? contemporary composers who deal mainly in tonality are so fucking boring that they can arrange Radiohead for orchestra and have all the bobos freaking out
>>65229843
>I've never been able to handle atonality
Maybe you just don't know what to look for in the music. You don't listen to it in the same way you do with tonal music, you know. If you're seeking the same kind of pleasure/satisfaction you'll never gonna enjoy it. It's a different kind of experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LimYhhgrDoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gm7RgdzeWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZelEcPZU8A
>>65226422
>various cultures around the globe
Debussy tried to integrate elements of gamelan like a rejection of development for cyclical movement into his music.
Harry Partch and La Monte Young, among many others, integrated Eastern scales by using microtones
>>65230127
>Debussy tried to integrate elements of gamelan like a rejection of development for cyclical movement into his music.
in which pieces can you hear this?
>>65208102
I also listened to Tchaikovsky 6th symphony today. I really don't understand why people say Mahler's 9th is influenced from it. They have nothing to do with each other.
>>65230160
this is a more thorough treatment of the subject than i care to write out
http://brenthugh.com/debnotes/gamelan.html
>>65230160
Pagodes
>>65230190
Perhaps because they're both final symphonies from these "troubled" and contain heartwrenching last movements so people like to assign extramusical interpretations that are probably not true.
>>65215544
Schubert is shit.
>>65229397
Me :)
Anyone have a list of CLT approved composers? I need music to listen to.
>>65232154
Stop posting about a shitty tripfag who stopped being active years ago.
>>65231414
post your shit
>>65232154
i'm not sure if it is the one you're looking for, but it's decent
>>65232343
>Gluck
>Scriabin
>Lully
>underrated
>>65232343
I think poly-style made that not clt.
>>65232154
>>65232276
https://youtu.be/jjP0_cP8TA8
>>65198507
fucking retard
>>65233236
pls no bully
>>65233000
kek
>>65233454
So you like it?
>>65233654
nice meme
>>65233654
what the fuck?
A 50 year old on /mu/?
>>65233697
I'm afraid I don't understand.
>>65233877
What makes you say that?
>>65230160
Debussy was heavily influenced by gamelan. Its not disputed.
>>65233967
The old videos where you play the piano
>>65232343
>no Schoenberg
>>65234894
>schoenberg
>underrated
>not mediocre
>>65232343
>scriabin
>underrated
>>65232343
>no year of death for Boulez
man I wish this was the case :(
>>65198021
>>65235148
fptsiu
>>65235148
Schoenberg is by far greater than any composer on that chart, and by far the least appreciated and least loved of the SVS trio in general, with many of his works receiving next to no performances in spite of the fact that there are almost no duds in his ouevure
>>65232343
Reminder that none of these composers are underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpUzPrbk5P4
A pretty boring interview but near the end McGill says he'll play the Carter clarinet quintet, so let's hope that gets recorded.
Bump
is it possible to "like" Schoenberg's music if you listen to it enough?
>>65237112
In the same way you'll like shit if you eat it enough
>inb4 it's not meant to be enjoyed
>>65235731
Most classical fans are atleast aware of Schoenberg's existence. The chart should be heavily niche composers yet it fails that.
>>65231367
(not true, by the way)
>>65237112
All you need is taste anon.
Meme or no?
>>65235731
Greater to what standard?
>>65238139
shit
>For years I said if I could only find a comfortable chair I would rival Mozart.
>I never feel that my music is sparse or minimalist; the way fat people never really think they're fat. I certainly don't consider myself minimalist at all.
>Boulez, who is everything I don't want art to be... Boulez, who once said in an essay that he is not interested in how a piece sounds, only how it is made.
Why does /classical/ hate him again?
>>65223592
>>65223269 here
I don't know about using past tunings into modern instruments but when it comes to historical instruments its useful because of the string tension. The current temperament is in a higher pitch than in the past, making it possible for historical instruments to break since the tension is different from what its used to (in stringed instruments, the tension increases if you increase the pitch).
>>65227718
I'm afraid I didn't understood you correctly, are you saying theres no auditive difference in different tuning?
>>65239107
Greatest composer of the second half of the 20th century.
>>65239107
His music is bad.
I like art music! Bach, Beethoven, Mozzart (underrated), the list goes on!
>>65239107
>For years I said if I could only find a comfortable chair I would rival Mozart.
what the fuck did he mean by this
>>65237112
I sincerely liked it the first time around.
I dont see what the problem is, have your 21st century ears not been acclimatized to atonality through countless horrror film scores?
Whenever I play Webern or Schoenberg to a non-classical friend horror films seems to be the first thing they mention.
Pic related is excellent, great unsual colors and ideas, combined with late romantic sensibilities and orchestration
>>65234894
hmm fair point, except Schoenberg is one of the most well known 20th century composers. Certainly Scriabin could be replaced by Schoenberg, or perhaps Webern instead.
>>65239107
I dont hate him, I just haven't found any good pieces by him yet.
>>65241339
He meant that he is a smart but lazy (XDXDXDXD).
When is Mozart gonna finish writing the Requiem?
>>65242215
Should be any day now.
best interpretation of the bach cello suites?
>>65243503
Casals, Maisky
>>65198021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLZQLi9RcWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izREOnsH6P4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LWBmT2oVcQ
Symphonies are shit btw
>>65221938
Yes. Baroque composers were usually also virtuosos who could play the instruments that they wrote for well, which means that they've composed the pieces with the correct historical tuning in their head.
It makes me want to kill myself when I hear sappy, flaccid romantic interpretation of Baroque music.
>>65198436
grieg
ravel
any bartok
prokofiev 2
>>65201394
late romantic
>>65201738
>hahah le holst is complete shit
hes really not. overrated? sure, but not shit
>>65202077
>good music is based on how chromatic your harmony is
please fuck off jesus
>>65205224
if you want to meme, shosty 8 is literally DUDE SUICIDE LMAO
>>65242351
It was literally his only good work. Why is he delaying it like this?
>>65244015
>It was literally his only good work
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
>>65244015
f. p.
>>65244015
meme
fptmiu
>>65244028
>Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
>>65229397
I would recommend looking at Isaac Sheperd or Philip Wesley. I find their pieces to have some manner of quality.
>>65241755
cleanse your ears with some feldman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-im03eVGWQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Q-1u6sNgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIkdjbySmKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZVsEbodf6o
>>65241755
Since I know you read music, can you tell me to what extent was Debussy's orchestration influenced by Wagner, and in what way does that make him any similar to Mahler
>>65244175
literally horseshit
This is a Japanese Beethoven.
>>65244400
No, that's a Japanese Operator
>listening to manlets
I seriously hope you people don't do this
>>65244444
These quints are in 4/4/4/4/4 time
>>65244444
impressive
>>65244444
I want to agree with those quints but
>Listening to Rachmaninoff
>>65244444
how tall is Stravinsky?
>>65244015
[Further proof intensifies]
>>65244444
Nice quintz.
>mfw
>>65244270
Debussy's orchestration reflected Wagner's shimmering hazes and more atmospheric sections, often making use of p or mp tremolo bowed strings, or trills in harmony. interlocking rhythms of blending instruments, often without a single focal melodic line.
Sounds like I'm doing your homework for you so I'm going to refrain from commenting on why that makes him similar to Mahler, if it does at all...
>>65244285
feldmans shit takes a long, LONG time to develop. dont dismiss it because you have untrained shit ears. it's really different than most music, which takes getting used to.
>>65242215
already did :)
Hey guys, there was someone who posted a soundcloud of their piano "etude" but it was really something else and quite interesting. All I remember is that it was around 10 min long and started with some weird arpeggio in maybe a major but it was so long ago, for sure though that it was at least 10 min or more. Is that poster still here?
>>65238203
being the single most important composer of the first half (and essential to the developments of the second) of the 20th century, maybe?
>>65245287
Well that's interesting I meant since they're both highly influenced by Wagner
>>65245730
Did the poster ask if anyone wants to hear his etude before? I think it was me then.
>>65245730
>>65246182
I g2g so I won't wait for your response. If it was me - you found an interesting piece from someone posting a soundcloud link on /classical/ and that taught you nothing. Stupid nigga. You've got a link to my soundcloud right there.
>>65229958
If it wasn't me sorry for insulting you for no reason.
So I went to the Queen Elizabeth competition (Belgium) on thursday. I completely guessed on a day to go and apparently I saw the winner doing Rach3. The funny thing is this happened a few years as well with Rach3. But to me the player was just playing really fast (though good). But in the first movement he played so fast the familiarity I have with the piece was almost gone. I don't know enough about piano playing but at the end of the piece I felt a little underwhelmed. Though he played the last movements pretty good. The person doing Brahms 2 before played a lot more convincingly and intimate to me.
>>65247362
that's trully fascinating anon.
>>65198021
Mahler 3
>>65208764
I'm sorry to hear that.
>mfw I accidentally write a chord progression that sounds like jazz
Not my all time favourite (I'm new enough to classical and I'd probably pick something boring like Beethoven's 5th or 9th) but I've really been enjoying Mahler's first recently. The build up of the first movement around that simple two note theme is fantastic.
>>65249494
Check out this performance, too.
okay, so, can someone recommend me some classical music if my favorite classical music is
debussy's piano works and string quartets
bach's cello suites, violin concertos, fugues
stravinsky's le sacre du printemps
elgar's cello concertos
BELA BARTOK'S STRING QUARTETS
eric satie's piano works
Tchaikovsky's orchestral works
string quartets by schoenberg, ligeti, schniitke, webern, alban berg.
I also like Giacinto Scelsi, morton feldman, messiaen, vivaldi, Luciano Cilio
It's hard for me to remember anything else, but that's a bit of a summary of what I like. I would really appreciate as many suggestions you could give me of stuff you think I'd like.
>>65244500
evidently, 5'3
>>65250307
Sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeeXab_N39s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyFsDVQrKiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX8FtvahG_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhzZxyxECQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJeL9gxqUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9BrprQ8Cdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvdVpahE9ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJCHY33SV6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZksACkv6hY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLDyVkDJ5gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUiG6sOrnUw
>>54801517
Is Dvorak 9th the best finale?
>>65250606
THANK YOU. adding these to a play list.
>>65250307
ravel's le tombeau de couperin
stravinsky's les noces
I need some renaissance music recs.
>>65252192
>>65250307
Listen to Mozart
>>65252275
Nice. Thank you.
Bump
>>65253734
This is something new for me.
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofiLN9AR9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwjc--j5oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0ffilFRiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOICPqnGviU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlebnPJy7g
This is an odd request but maybe one of you guys has bumped into something like this
What are the best / standard readings in the phenomenology of music? Especially classical.
>>65255228
Hey /classical/ what is your opinion on this?
It's a symphonic poem by the most famous composer from my country (Lithuania)
How do you think he compares to the great composers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY4o2G6hmaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaTVgvxm-M
>>65255410
I love his work. Miške is even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEH7xrmflg
Is there an interpretation of Beethoven's piano sonata's that even come close to Schnabel's?
>>65256072
Kempff
>>65255410
lithuanians eat bees
>>65256131
Thanks. I need an alternative because the only Schnabel versions I can find have horrid audio quality, what I wouldn't give to hear that man play with modern recording technology.
>>65256072
>Schnabel
fucking keking my ass of
>>65256207
Also try Brendel. He is great, too.
