Was there ever a darker period for music than the early 2000s?
SHOUT
SHOUT
LET IT ALL OUT
I still to this day have no idea whats going on in that album cover
>madvillainy
>college dropout
>the unseen
Stupify is a good song to be honest.
I work with a guy who will, anytime anyone says "It's been a while" in our vicinity, look at me and sing in falsetto "it's been a while" as made famous in the Staind song "It's Been Awhile".
2013-14
>>65122104
bald man pulls sweater over head but it's a size too small
>>65122085
Early 90's
>>65122197
the early 90s were amazing for rock music
Nu metal wasn't that bad though. Some of it was pretty good.
>>65122250
There was a lot of creativity in the early days particularly
>>65122250
-1/10
>>65122250
I have a huge soft spot for both nu metal and pop punk; I don't think either genre was as bad as people make them out to be.
Post-grunge, on the other hand... wew.
I've also noticed that there was a lot of dark, unsettling music that came out from around 2001 through 2003.
>>65122349
Thank you 9/11 (though actually albums like The Sickness came out before Bush was even in office).
Probably something to do with 9/11 and the iraq war
>>65122250
I agree. Deftones, Science-era Incubus, and Flapjack are pretty good.
Nah, nu metal sucks and you only like it because you were edgy middle schoolers back then.
>>65122103
Quite possibly the worst cover in existence.
>>65122085
Early 2000s (2000-2005) were great for Hip Hop music.
Eminem
Kanye West
Ludacris
T.I.
Atmosphere
50 Cent
The Game
all dropping their best material and blowing up, plus album sales were higher than ever before. Also Hip Hop beefs were entertaining as fuck to follow.
>>65122085
Probably the late 2000s...
>>65122104
Guy emerging from a vagina. At least I assume that's what's happening.
>>65122349
2001 saw some albums I really love that weren't nu-metal and really feel lost on the musical timeline compared to other stuff you might think of that year.
Hood - Cold House
pg.99 - Document #7 / #8
Radiohead - Amnesiac
Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You
Crossfit-core
>>65122547
Don't forget Danse Manatee
>>65122442
> Ludacris
> great
Can't have both, mate
>>65122404
you love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFCz4e6rWzg
>>65122306
The whole genre was at least somewhat experimental in the early days.
>>65122379
Science does not get enough love, cool album.
>>65122547
Great list. Also, for me at least:
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
Converge - Jane Doe
The early 2000's were culturally superior to the 2010's. It's still really the mid to late 90's. The mainstream pop music was cheesy and strangely innocent and the experimental groups were successful.
Also, there weren't any modern day fourth wave feminists (the ones with the pink hair) or beta nu male cucks.
>>65122794
>It's still really the mid to late 90's. The mainstream pop music was cheesy and strangely innocent and the experimental groups were successful.
It's not though. 2001-04 were a distinct period and definitely didn't feel like the late 90s.
>>65122104
man emerging from an elephant's asshole Ace Ventura style
>>65122404
You're close, but the actual worst cover in existence is Disturbed's cover of The Sound of Silence. It's a godawful cover, and the original track is actually good unlike Shout. Also, the Sound of Silence cover has the fact that it actually was/is popular and people took it seriously, whereas Shout hasn't been mentioned by really anyone ever.
The cover in question. If you can make it past "Hello darkness my old friend", you're a stronger man than I.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4
Early 80's and early 90's. Black metal was and still is very dark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD9hp32VwpU
>>65122451
Best period for pop music
>>65123543
Tik Tok is a great song.
>>65123640
hope you aren't being sarcastic
it really is
>>65122794
Chuck was their best album and it came out in mid 2000s
>>65123661
I wasn't. 2009 was a fucking awesome year for pop music.
>>65122494
>>65122177
He probably listens to U Talkin U2 2 Me?
>>65123373
My roommate started ranting about this out of the blue the other day and made a bunch of us sit down and listen to it, just so we could fully understand how shitty it was. It ended up with a fun Simon and Garfunkel playlist though, so it was alright.
>>65122177
That's actually hilarious.
>>65123373
I didn't mind the cover that much. Sure, was it highly ambitious? Sure, no one is denying that. Was it better than the original? No, no one is saying that either. But to have this much of a fit over the cover, I mean really, relax my friend.
>>65123373
>tfw my brother is a slobbering pleb who thinks the Disturbed version is actually good
I absolutely cannot stand that fucking cover. It blows my mind that people like it.
>>65122794
>there weren't any modern day beta nu male cucks.
What is the whole twee movement then?
>>65122177
Do you work with me?
>>65122104
Guy in a cast of some kind?
>>65122442
>Early 2000s (2000-2005) were great for Hip Hop music.
No they weren't dumbfuck. It's just a worse version on every level of what we have now.
>>65123373
I like it.
2000 was pretty shit, but things got pretty good a couple years later when the garage rock revival happened, and skramz/hardcore picked back up.
>>65122197
But those were amazing for Rock and Metal...
>>65122250
Consider suicide
>>65122442
Anon, this thread is about music, not rap and hip hop.
>>65122104
Head popping out of some foreskin?
It wasn't so much just the music that it was also fashion too that went down the drain.
When I grew up everyone dressed like shit and listened to shit, it was all a very depressing time.
>>65126068
let me guess you think swedeath was any good?
>>65122085
I said this in another similar thread. late 90s/early 2000s had GOAT pop music as well as a decent mix of pop punk and nu metal
ODB was on the radio then!
not even le wrong generation, the previous era was much better and more diverse musically, when it came to the radio at least.
Late 2000s is where it took a dive
>>65126068
>Rock and Metal
>rap and hip hop not music
spotted the underage pleb
>>65126346
Yes, rhyming and talking about bitched and sex and how great you are over a loop requires a lot of talent of creativity. Let me guess, you've never played an instrument in your life, have you? Rap and hip hop are the lowest forms of musical expression. It isn't poetry. It's a fucking joke.
>>65126272
The best late 80s-early 90s death metal came from America
korn had some real good songs and a unique style. alot of the lyrics were too much though
>>65126507
I do play some instruments, anon, but I guess you're meming so I'll just shut up
>>65122085
Early 2000s were bad but the 80's were worse.
>>65122442
kek
nice
bait
>>65122600
now this is just retarded
>>65123373
>and the original track is actually good unlike Shout
lmao look at this pleb
who the fuck doesn't like tff
>>65122085
my best friend sincerely gave this album to me as a birthday present. he's 24.
i don't have the heart to be mean, and besides there are so many things wrong with that i wouldn't know where to begin
i really need new friends tho
>>65127778
>my friend has different music taste from me
>better cut all ties with him
What's wrong with you people.
>>65122177
Solid coworker desu
>>65127817
no one who listens to disturbed is worthwhile to be around
>>65127817
>I need new friends I can discuss music with = I must cut all ties with my other friends
ok
>>65122250
Some people think this is a troll but the contemporaries in post-hardcore like Refused, Glassjaw, and Snapcase that used similar rhythms and riffage were great. And Deftones are obviously GOAT.
>>65127846
This desu
>>65127846
also there is truth in this, because when i became friends with him we were in our early teens and listening to bands like disturbed was fine
i think still listening to that kind of music at age 24 is indicitive of a refusal to grow up, which desu pretty much sums up his attitude to real world poblems. it's not like people who listen to top 40, who can simply be normal, functioning people who don't have an interest in music. he, and most people who listen to that sort of music, basically have the same sort of snobbery about music that the average /mu/tant does, but with bands like 5 finger death punch and breaking benjamin. it's rly weird
anyway, people change, and the friends you made 10 years ago aren't necessarily the friends you want around now. but i'm not autistic or a bully so i'm not gonna call him out on shit like this. it's just one of those little things that took on a bigger significance when i thought about it in the context of his behaviour in recent years
>>65123373
Just listened to this, I feel like it's a little cheesy but he hits the notes pretty well
It's not really that bad
>>65123543
This is true
>>65123640
>>65123661
But these opinions offend me
>>65122794
this, the early 2000s still felt like the 90s, but like the comedown from the 90s, id say things changed by 2006
>>65128217
>tfw it's 2016 now and it's only just beginning to feel like the 2010's
why can't we just let go
>>65122794
>there weren't any modern day fourth wave feminists (the ones with the pink hair) or beta nu male cucks.
>>65122379
Deftones is GOAT. Sure their older stuff isn't as good, but at least they evolved to a point where they're actually a lot better. A lot unlike Linkin Park, Disturbed, and Slipknot
>>65122675
mah nigga. Converge, Cave In, and Isis are fucking amazing, and it's crazy how years later with Old Man Gloom/Sumac the dudes are still making great music.
>>65128862
A Thousand Suns was great, though.
>>65130202
meme tier opinion
>>65122250
Also seemed to be the last time rock music was mainstream. You had Korn and SOAD on SNL. Fred Durst performing with Christina Aguilera at the VMAs. It was at least more interesting than the glut of post-Grunge like Creed and Nickleback that dominated rock radio in the late 90s. That and the garage rock revival seemed to be the last time new rock music got played in the mainstream.
>>65122104
I never paid enough attention to that album cover, it looks like a bald man coming out of a foreskin... how was this successful
>>65128090
>hits the notes pretty well
check him on conan, he hits the notes pretty well there too thanks to being quite conspicuously drowned in autotune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7RVw3I8eg
srsly, it's embarrassing how many people can't spot that shit
>>65127948
you know, they say the music you listened to at 15 will forever be the best you've ever heard. i guess for those who don't care about the medium on a /mu/-ish level, this may hold truth, i know it's true for my parents, who also just sort of stopped following new trends
listening to bands like disturbed is indeed fine, you don't necessarily have to identify with their lyrical themes etc. just saying, i love xiu xiu and i'm currently far from depressed or moody
Being a teenager during the early 2000's was probably hype as fuck t b h.
>>65130691
Is that why 95% of people over 40 have an absolute infuriating refusal to enjoy anything that wasn't released in the 70s or 80s?
>>65123974
Not that? Twee is just being cute. It's not being some video game loving neckbeard who hates others because they're FUCKING WHITE MALES
>>65130888
Add 90s to that. Mine are in their 40s and believe music peaked with Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins or anything on the Lollapalooza tours.
The 80s - NO CONTEST.
>>65131094
I'd say that's definitely better than thinking music peaked with ACDC and Guns n Roses.
>>65131175
marginally
>>65130691
perhaps
it's still too cringe for me to handle when we're in a car and he's handed the aux chord and starts playing nightwish, rise against, vocaloids and pokemon music and everyone kinda just sits there in awkward silence for 10 minutes before hurrying it along to the next guy
you need to grow up a BIT by the time you hit your mid-20s, y'know? it's not just the awful music, it's the misplaced snobbery and total lack of self-awareness that comes with it. I mean, I still have a soft spot for paramore or whatever from my teens, but I wouldn't play them in a car full of indie rock or current top 40 fans and then rant about how bad their taste is just because they couldn't vibe to it. nor would I give someone in their mid-20s the Riot! album as a birthday present in fucking 2016
>>65131226
>but I wouldn't play them in a car full of indie rock or current top 40 fans
Isn't Paramore literally top 40 music though?
>>65128217
Little earlier I'd say. When trance and eurodance fell out of favor, pop punk was clear king of popular rock musak, and the bling era of hip hop came in full swing, maybe around 2003.
>>65122085
Yeah, for sure.
>2000
>Kid A
>Lift Yr Skinny Fists
>STGSTV
>White Pony
>Since I Left You
>2001
>Jane Doe
>Leaves Turn Inside Your
>The Glow, Pt. 2
>Vespertine
>The Cold Vein
>2002
>Geogaddi
>Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
>Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
>Turn On The Bright Lights
>Songs For The Deaf
>2003
>De-Loused In The Comatorium
>Ghosts Of The Great Highway
>The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place
>Deja Entendu
>Neon Golden
>2004
>Funeral
>From A Basement On The Hill
>Shadows Collide With People
>Is A Real Boy
>You're A Woman, I'm A Machine
early 2000s was fine. Not to mention that even after I purposefully gimped myself by including no metal or hip-hop on these lists it was still hard to just keep five good albums from each of these years.
>>65131313
>Is A Real Boy
L Y R I C A L D I A R R H E A
(and, somehow, a punchable voice. i don't know how, but dear god do i want to punch that voice)
>>65130202
It really wasn't, though. More ambitious than Living Things, more diverse than their early stuff, but certainly not good.
>>65122250
Korn was decent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRz-yw-wp34
Wasn't Linkin Park literally a focus group/ industry plant?
Bands don't just pop up and release multi-platinum debuts with glossy top 40 production that just happen to tap into and water down all the stereotypical popular trends at the time for mass consumption.
It's like Imagine Dragons. Got to be ghostwritten. I expect LP's post-Meteora albums weren't interfered with too much because whatever record executives were responsible for it dropped them when that kind of music stopped being 'cool'. But no way was the material on Hybrid Theory and Meteora actually written by the band themselves.
>>65131226
dude paramore is literally top 40 "indie rock" what are you worrying about
i don't know the man in question, i don't know your other friends, but rise against and nightwish are fine, just yesteryear's trend. i mean, playing the beach boys would end up being just as awkward, from my experience
>>65131359
Not a fan personally myself, but I know quite a few people here and other places really like it.
>>65131465
whether or not that's true, in the end, it doesn't even matter
>>65131532
kek
>>65131465
Reminds me of how Kurt Cobain said Pearl Jam and AIC were corporate puppets because they suddenly showed up out of the blue and dropped slick, professionally-produced albums that milked all the pop culture fads of the time.
>inb4 butbutbut Nevermind was slick professionally produced buttrock
If you didn't know about Bleach, you'd probably think that, but bands like Nirvana and Green Day did have a legitimate indie label beginning.
>>65131313
some GOATs and true 10/10s there, but most of those kinda suck m8
>>65131465
I agree. Even the world's greatest corporate whores, Kiss, started out with simplistic, low budget albums before they went to a big, slick, overproduced sound on Destroyer.
>>65131730
tbf, linkin park released an ep and a demo under another name, already playing that sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIYwW0zgA34
>>65131620
With AIC I think it's more that they were sellouts, IIRC they started out as a hair metal band but quickly changed to fit into the grunge scene.
I wouldn't doubt that they wrote their own songs tho. Cantrell has a very distinct style and there is legitmate musicianship on their albums. Hell, their debut didn't even do that well besides Man in the Box. LP's first 2 albums sound incredibly faceless, like they could be written by literally anyone
Can't comment on PJ as I don't really know shit about them. Never found them remotely interesting
>>65131714
Again, there's been something in the early 2000s for everyone. That's kinda my point. Like I told the previous guy, there are some albums on that list I wouldn't enjoy myself, but I know a lot of others do. All I am saying is that the early 2000s were actually a great era for music where there was something for everyone regardless of tastes.
>>65131465
what's the point of this post? you know basically 90%+ of top 40 music is focus grouped shit, right?
>>65131818
>With AIC I think it's more that they were sellouts, IIRC they started out as a hair metal band but quickly changed to fit into the grunge scene.
And Pantera. :^)
>>65131899
Because the band claims to be a legitimate rock band and people seem to treat them as such (even if the general consensus is that they're shit)
>>65131818
Honestly I'm glad AIC "sold out" because we got the incredible Jar of Flies out of it. Thankfully, Jerry found his true voice in being fake lol
>>65131859
how's this different today, though? I was born in 91 but I feel like we have way more choices now than we did back then. Internet made it all acessible.
>>65131933
So if rock music is focus group shit then it suddenly stops being rock music?
I'm really not following you here anon
>>65131933
I don't think people really realize the whole focus group aspect of pop music, and even if they did I'm not sure they'd care.
>>65131975
It isn't. Thanks to both the internet and just more genres of music existing in general we have a larger variety of cool shit to check out.
Yeah, the late 2000s.
>>65131905
Partially true but Phil Anselmo did come up in the underground extreme punk/metal scenes which is why they recruited him. He had nothing to do with their original hairspray incarnation.
>>65122803
you say that because you only listened to a couple of indie stuff and that's it.
>>65132024
Still lame that they had to hire a guy from the underground metal scene to show them how to actually play metal.
>>65122177
Sounds like a cool dude
oooh...
WAH AH AH AH
>>65133302
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
>>65131465
I like them.
I like most things.
>>65122104
According to their lead singer it's a monster being born. That cover always grossed me out.
>>65122250
Refused, Glassjaw, Cave In, post-hardcore like that was basically Nu metal.
Plus early Korn was amazing.
>>65134099
when will this fucking meme die
