>inb4 rockists try to deny this
I actually don't understand this. What's wrong with liking full albums? Can someone explain?
>>65113379
EACH GENRE HAS ITS OWN PREFERRED FORMAT
>>65113379
good thread :)
>>65113379
lol is that Steven Wilson?
>>65113523
Yes
>>65113434
nothing, it's just a troll, move along
It's true though. Full albums are the only proper way to listen to music in all genres.
>>65113623
What about genres where albums aren't the norm
>>65113669
Such as?
>>65113682
Who cares? Do what you want.
>>65113379
Both are fine. It really depends on the album. If the songs are part of a series like with luv(sic) by Nujabes, listening to individual songs is fine. If the songs bridge into one another like with DSOTM you should listen to it all. If all but a few songs are shit, listen to the songs you like.
Generally, when listening to new albums, I listen to them fully, and if I like them I listen to them fully consistently, like with Loveless or Dirt.
who cares
I just listen to full albums because it's a much better way to make an impression on a new artist. I can't stand people that say they listened to 2 songs they didn't like from an artist and just gave up on them
>>65113623
I wouldn't say so for classical music albums that contain more than one full work.
>>65113682
A lot of electronic subgenres
>>65113682
Classical music
>>65113756
>electronic
shit
>>65113682
I can think of: classical music, folklore music and pre-1945 jazz.
>>65113769
>Aphex Twin
>Boards of Canada
>Shit
Sounds like you just have bad taste.
>>65113379
>questioning the fact that there are albums that are meant and should be listened in full
Some albums are literally just a collection of songs and some albums are meant to be listened to as a thematic whole. Whether or not any release is supposed to be listened to exclusively from start to finish or not depends entirely on the intentions of the artist.
Either way, you should listen to the entire album regardless because that's the format of modern rock music. It's entirely possible that some tracks may complement other tracks, or that careful consideration was put into the track listing to create a well paced listening experience. It's insulting to the musicians, and the art form. Even if the release is just a collection of songs, it's still a collection of songs from a specific period, recorded in a specific place, at a specific time in the musicians life, which alone can create a sense of unity between tracks.
Of course this doesn't apply to every genre, but for most of the music we discuss around here, listening to the full album is most likely what the artist intended you to do, and you may be doing yourself a huge disservice if you don't.
>>65113777
well those are some of the few good electronic artists.
most of it is trash
>>65113950
>writing off 75 years of music as trash
Hello R3ddit!
>>65113932
>Either way, you should listen to the entire album
I can do whatever the fuck I want fuck face
>65113769
on a statistical level, the majority of any genre or medium is shit you idiot
>>65113981
You're right, you can do whatever you want, but it doesn't stop you from being a fucking idiot.
>>65113523
No that's Mikael Akerfeldt
I wanna listen to more than one song damn it
>>65113379
>>65113379
Fuck off Antz.
>>65113769
>dismissing an entire genre
>>65113379
I listen to full albums exclusively because I'm too lazy to make playlists
>mfw some retard once said listening to songs individually or shuffled is like "reading chapters of a book out of order"
When the day of the rope comes you subhumans will be the first to hang.
>>65115827
He's right, though.
>>65115827
That is a true statement
>>65113379
>>65115827
Do you think the artist randomly chose the order of the musics? No, man, there is a logical in the music order, that's why it has an Intro and sometimes a final.
I'm not judging you if you don't do this, but if you want to feel the real artistic thing, you should.
It's like Opera, there is a narrative order
>>65115871
>>65115948
>>65116164
Oh my god all of you rockists really need to go die.
>>65116275
>this reaction to true statements ("an artist chose the order of songs deliberately")
kek how underaged?
>>65116275
wow, that incredible and mature argument really change my mind, sry bro, you are right
>>65116275
>oh no, they have good arguments, need to go to the ad hominem way
c'mom, dude, nobody is making you to stop listening to your hip-hop singles, just recomending you to listen the full album to get a better experience. It's hard to act like a mature person?
>>65113932
Good stuff famalia
>>65113964
75 years? Hahaha
Do the people who post in these threads even read the image in the OP?
Rockism does not mean someone who listens to rock music. You can listen exclusively to electronic, jazz, and hip hop and be a rockist.
>>65116602
Yes, it's been debunked every single thread yet you still decide to come back and post it again. Do you get off on this? Is it your fetish to be humiliated on /mu/?
When I think about kids watching a TV show like American Idol or The Voice, then they think, ‘Oh, OK, that’s how you become a musician, you stand in line for eight fucking hours with 800 people at a convention center and… then you sing your heart out for someone and then they tell you it’s not fuckin’ good enough.’ Can you imagine?” he implores. “It’s destroying the next generation of musicians! Musicians should go to a yard sale and buy and old fucking drum set and get in their garage and just suck. And get their friends to come in and they’ll suck, too. And then they’ll fucking start playing and they’ll have the best time they’ve ever had in their lives and then all of a sudden they’ll become Nirvana. Because that’s exactly what happened with Nirvana. Just a bunch of guys that had some shitty old instruments and they got together and started playing some noisy-ass shit, and they became the biggest band in the world. That can happen again! You don’t need a fucking computer or the internet or The Voice or American Idol.
>>65113379
He's a pretty bad example of a rockist given that he has a professed love for pop, jazz and IDM, as well as his own trip hop and ambient side projects (the latter of which is less focused on the album format).
>>65115137
not even a genre
>>65116581
>Posting the outdated version
Nice one fagtron
>>65116670
Nirvana is shit and destroyed the music we know today.
The shiteen rock bands that dominated in this century is all Nirvana fault.
>>65116734
>lol this music and its fans are so UNFASHIONABLE
Grow the fuck up.
>>65116649
But everyone "debunking" the pic is basing their arguments around the idea that "rockism" has to do with what kind of music you listen to.
>>65116852
But the picture's retarded because SW doesn't release his music exclusively in album form and has projects that eschew the format almost entirely.
>>65113932
>Some albums are literally just a collection of songs and some albums are meant to be listened to as a thematic whole. Whether or not any release is supposed to be listened to exclusively from start to finish or not depends entirely on the intentions of the artist.
QFT
>Either way, you should listen to the entire album regardless because that's the format of modern rock music.
>Of course this doesn't apply to every genre, but for most of the music we discuss around here, listening to the full album is most likely what the artist intended you to do, and you may be doing yourself a huge disservice if you don't.
I'd say you ought to listen to the whole album at least once, anyway. There's nothing wrong with having favorite tracks making mixed playlists with them.
Personally, I bemoan the death of the single as a significant format in America, too. Those were (and are, where they still exist) nice, because they gave you stuff you wouldn't get on a full album (especially maxi singles).
>>65116757
I'm not sure you can pin it ALL on Nirvana or even grunge in general. The Offspring and Green Day share a lot of the blame, too.
>>65116577
I think hes referring to the avant era where modular synthesizers took up whole rooms were nigh unpredictable, and was tuned using plugs and wires.
Most albums are ordered in a specific way, whether they are concept albums are not. They are put together with the intention of being cohesive as one piece.
However, if anyone tries to tell you all albums MUST be listened to in order, they're pretentious fuckwits. Experience the art however you want.
>>65113932
>the intentions of the artist.
oh boy
>>65116581
>>65116734
that's just prog metal with a random PF thrown in the middle
I do believe that songs should be judged as single entities, but there is a lot to say about the feeling of some great albums. When a group releases a cohesive album where all of the songs are good in their own right, but also work well with the rest of the songs their bundled with. It simply makes it that much better.
didn't read but SW is a god so he's probably correct
>>65113932
>Either way, you should listen to the entire album regardless because that's the format of all music.
FTFY
>people who exclusively listen to albums
>>65116734
tfw this was literally me at 16
how about this
songs that were intended to be a part of an album should be listened to with the album, and others shouldn't.
jesus christ you fuckers bicker over some stupid shit.
>>65113720
this
>>65113379
If albums aren't meant to be listened to as a whole, then why are they Mastered as one instead of individual songs?
>>65121172
because mastering engineers are rockists
