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Wagwan

https://rateyourmusic.com/~etinarcadiaego
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>>65099274
I'm gonna start marathoning Bowie

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Prismadoll
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~vtimdon

avant-jazz is good

pls rec me some
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>>65099347
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/sten_sandell_trio/standing_wave/
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>>65099374
woah this is obscure
it looks nice though

thanks my man
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Can somebody tell me what an embryo is?
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>>65100067
take a look in the mirror
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>>65100067
t. embryo
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iloveyou
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Be nice to one another. Life is short.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~Keolia
https://rateyourmusic.com/~Keolia
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What happened to Sonemic? I thought they were supposted to start it by April.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~regency

pic related is some of what I will be listening to for the next few days

Will Sonemic change the culture of rateyourmusic? I know this sounds elitist or whatever but I really hope it doesn't become more popular. I'd hate the charts to get really bad
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>>65101136
The internet never keeps its promises, you should know that by now.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~floatings

>>65101308
who the fuck cares about the charts in the first place lol
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http://rateyourmusic.com/~Zed_Lamp
talk to me girls
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>>65101308
that Nicolas Collins album is dope
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>>65101597
>being this desperate
???
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>>65101488
me, they're fun
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>>65101488
the alltime charts are obviously useless because everyone has already heard all that shit but custom charts are good
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>>65102594
I don't think obscure genres will be affected
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>>65101488
>>65101710
I should add that if you are conscious in creating a good friends list of people with interesting taste in music, your "as rated by my friends on RYM" chart can be very good for discovery.
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Looking for some good, but fun Summer music.

https://rateyourmusic.com/~CtrlMaster

>>65099336
Hey pal.
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>>65102650
>tfw want to do this but i'm too awkward to send "friend" requests
I'm glad they'll change "friends" to "following/followers" on sonemic
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>>65103198
you can always add people on private (as "favorites" instead)
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~74av


https://rateyourmusic.com/~74av
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~bobfedex

yo
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>>65103858
sup lil embryo
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>>65103355
but you can't do a custom chart with favorites, can you? i don't see an option for that
unless the "as rated by friends" chart counts favorites too?
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>>65102710
Nice taste m8 fav'd
Check out Beulah - Handsome Western States
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~MalcolmXWing

>>65102710

I wanna lick Pit's pits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJur8RdsNQ

(https://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/ebo_taylor/life_stories__highlife_and_afrobeat_classics_1973_1980/)
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>>65104214
i'm not sure t b h, try it i guess
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>>65104362
Thank you very much! Will check that out too.

>>65104436
Nagisa is a qt. Thanks for the recommendation.
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>>65104214
it counts favourites
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>>65099274
This account is trash, all her 5 stars are obscure albums that are 7/10 tops, I've listened to all of them. She's probably trying to impress people.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~cacespace
Redpill me on this guy.
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>>65099336
>Centipede Hz
>battles
kek

drop the trip you pleb
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>>65108206
hes kinda qt desu
>joined apr13, 2015
>4,300 ratings
>anti warhol drone
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>>65101120
Boring
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>>65108246
>hes kinda qt desu
Pics?
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>>65108176
would you not agree with the notion that music enjoyment can and does vary from person to person
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>tfw no RNG bf
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>AntiWarhol and carbonado are so similar they have the same rating distribution
WEW LAD
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Reminder not to use cancer curve
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>>65108471
why even live
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>>65108471
>>65108613
fuck off dmshareguy
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>>65108479
carbonado and carburador are similar (their names)
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>>65108643
>carburador
daisiesfree drone 2bh
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>mad rym cred
WDHMBT?
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>>65108503
What is the cancer curve?
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>>65108704
le ebin positive ratings xddd
Zizekian, spectres, the list goes on...
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>>65108246
his profile pic is that of horatiu radulescu as a kid, it's not him if that's what you were thinking of.
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>>65108471
>tfw he doesn't add you back
end my life
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>>65108747
>knowing what Radulescu looked like as a kid
Which one of AntiWarhol's drones are you?
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Is anyone else sick of the broken music maps
Not only will mine only include like 5 artists, it won't switch to day mode no matter how much I tell it to
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Redpill me on B0SS4D311iC please
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~AntiWarhol
this is it right? hope everything goes well for him :)
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>>65108732
Oh, those. Yes, positive rating scales are nothing more than a meme.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~scottydcrocker
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>>65108812
He hasn't left RYM, if that's what you're implying.
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>>65108810
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Palestrina/rating45508675
see 2.4
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>>65108815
Except most positive rating systems are more about numbers than actual opinions. Look at Zizekian's 3.5-5.0 ratings for example.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~thehuntingparty hello

>>65108888
nice
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>>65108732
>>65108704
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/SellMeAGod/why_i_rate__a_word_about_thee_benefits_of_a_positive_rating_model/

Not sure which is worse, "le beyond words xD" or "thee yr rekkerds xD".
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what's even the purpose of these threads?

People just share their profiles and bicker about pointless shit, there's almost never any worthwhile discussion or sharing of music.
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>>65109149
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>>65109149
>there's almost never any worthwhile discussion or sharing of music.
Maybe because this is not a music discussion thread or sharethread?
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>>65108810
http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=16601#comments

he left this site at the same time he left rym, apparently he was such an arrogant condescending prick there that he managed to get himself banned from the forums lollll
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>>65109360
>apparently he was such an arrogant condescending prick there that he managed to get himself banned from the forums lollll
?
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test
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>>65109334
like I said

what's even the purpose of these threads then?
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>>65109456
To talk about RYM.
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>>65109360
Everyone on this site is an arrogant condescending prick.
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t b h rym threads ought to be banned on /mu/, they've devolved too far
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>>65109472
but no one really even talks about RYM, people post their profile, call each other embryos, talk about some stupid drama, Montie shows up, everyone shits on him. That's these threads in a nutshell
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hi
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>>65109504
t. embryo
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>>65109526
t. zygote
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show me your rym maps
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>>65109557
t. spermatozoon
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>>65109417
http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=289576#289576
http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=289615#289615

i'm assuming he got so upset that he decided to leave RYM as well. also apparently he had people droning his chart on there too while he himself was droning exitsense (who went by backyardgypsy on there)? strange stuff to say the least.
http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=390944#390944
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>>65109617
exitsense himself was a drone of antiwarhol who in turn was a drone of dart
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>>65109617
deepest lore
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>>65109679
>antiwarhol who in turn was a drone of dart
Toppest kek. dart was literally the worst kind of drone, he was so obsessed with his 'cred' that he would fake thousands of ratings.
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>>65109740
maybe it wasn't dart but i remember reading some RYM lore about how antiwarhol formed a lot of his foundations from some other (now long-gone) user
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>>65109740
dart was the british dude who lived on a houseboat or something, yeah?
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>>65109617
Can you find the Jay-Z vs Isengrind thread that they mentioned?
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>>65109808
dart was the shitposting Australian insomniacme from the days of last.fm
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>>65109808
no no no, that was Sinagog.
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>>65109809
here:
http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=287385#287385

it's a bit hard to discern which posts are by bossadellic/thepoe since once a user is deleted on there their usernames on the forums switch to "guest". other people quoting him helps a bit.
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>>65109801
schizodanny, aka nadirauxpommes, and that's a bit overhyped because AntiWarhol added a lot of stuff to the site, and schizodanny was never as into all the folk stuff AntiWarhol was. it's hard to label him a drone, no matter how much revising history you attempt. really, the same could go for exitsense and bossa, who both started with a foundation from Anti and turned into having unique tastes themselves. it's all sort of cyclical.

>>65109808
no, you're thinking of herkyjerky, the most interesting man alive. he's a DPRK expatriate who lived in the US for much of his youth and now lives on a fully sustainable small island in the Hawaiian archipelago and literally generates his own electricity with a bike while farming for all his own food and sharing music with people he likes over Google Drive.
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>>65109832
>tfw you will never figure out how to accurately comb the last.fm backlogs to discover old bantz between insomniacme, cathodes, and the others
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>>65109801
You're probably thinking of schizodanny/nadirauxpommes, but even then that's not really true. People like Horb and chumlum are literally nadir drones, but AntiWarhol has always done his own thing. Their tastes often intersected because nadir has listened to a ridiculous amount of music (20k or so albums at the age of 20) and because they were friends and often rec'd each other stuff.
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>>65109928
I thought AW's canon was specifically a rebuke against danny's, at least early on. Like, giving low ratings to stuff like Big Blood, etc
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>>65110058
he rated Big Blood a 0.5 in 2011, when he was going on a 0.5 rating binge of all of karlhalliday's 4.5s and 5.0s that he hadn't droned from AntiWarhol (which was like 10 albums lol)
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>>65110114
see: https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/AntiWarhol/r0.5,ss.d/16

August 30, 2011 was D-Day for karlhalliday, and the most extreme BTFO he got besides Palestrina's review
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>>65110114
Why were he and his friends so mean to Karl anyway? I always felt bad for him.
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>>65109973
>tfw
http://web.archive.org/web/20100723012519/http://www.last.fm/user/mindweather

mindweather's comment was something along the lines of "insert XD-worthy avatar and witty one liner" (not sure about that last part, I'm only paraphrasing)
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>tfw you simplify your rating system

feels good, like an autistic version of spring cleaning
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>>65110164
Anti was mean to just about everybody who had no shame about blatantly droning him (fractured et al), not just Karl.
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>>65110179
https://web.archive.org/web/20130211011438/http://www.last.fm/user/Midwayer
What did he mean by this?
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>>65109922
Nice, thanks.
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I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about, I'm just here to rate my music.
https://rateyourmusic.com/~VelSparko
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>>65110255
kek this is the most brutal btfo-ing ive seen in a long time. midwayer = exitsense?
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>>65110438
yep
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~Rodrigo2703

currently listening to Yoni & Geti - Testarossa. it's decent. do you guys think there is any chance in cLOUDDEAD coming back at some point?
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RIP Karl - the last avant-teen who would openly sperg every time /mu/ mentioned him
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>>65110237
But what about people like Qualiasoup, mindweather, fagix? Do they get a pass just because they're friends with Rich? Karl didn't deserve the hate, he was always nice to everyone and also a massive qt ;___;
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>>65110609
what do you mean?
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>>65110612
Oh I totally agree, Karl deserved better from everybody. But think about it: AW gave Quilled_Investigator for example, a pass just for being a fellow Canadian
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>>65110684
nah it's because ethan wasn't a shameless drone and didn't get all his music from anti
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>>65110639
he made his profile pic a /mu/ comment once, and if you search his archive, he did like post-archival comments on old threads about him under the name "Karl" complaining about how he had been mentioned
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>>65110684
Q_I got a pass because he talked to Anti directly and often, was of a similar age so Anti knew he wasn't just being a high schooler, etc. i think basically all of the first wave of avant-teens deserved better, though, and it looks like /mu/ does, too, since they've come back into vogue now that people see how out of control the trans clique and TCB are/were.
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>>65110759
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S37444880#p37449033
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S40538421#p40544802_1
This?
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>>65110809
yep
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>>65110792
huh? ethan turned 20 this year, anti is like 5-6 years older
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>>65110049
how is it possible to have heard 20k albums by the age of 20? if he started listening to music seriously at age 13 he'd have to listen to ~10 albums a day (with no re-listens) for that to be even remotely plausible
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>>65111013
They haven't actually heard that much music
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>>65111013
I talked to him a few times on RYM, he literally spend all day listening to music/watching movies/reading. He slept 4-5 hours a day and listened to music at school, in the toilet, while commuting, eating, you get the idea. And no, he actually relistened to stuff. At home he would only listen to new albums (10-15 per day) and outside he would relisten to stuff on his MP3 player. It's all on his last.fm profiles too.
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>>65111122
i was kind of the same way for awhile but i still don't buy the 20k figure
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>>65111122
That is insane.
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>>65111168
Well as I said you can check his last.fm and see for yourself. Keep in mind that he had been doing this for over 5 years.
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redpill me on daisiesfree
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~thefunkmob

Looking for some recs and friends desu :3
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>>65111220
girlfriend of couldnvrlisten/carburador, female avant teen
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>>65111220
top avant-qt
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>>65111220
btfo'd tankpit so hard he had to become a No_ drone
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>>65111328
Story?
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can someone please redirect me to the current best new exitsense, ty.
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>>65111266
>girlfriend
not anymore
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>>65111496
ah you're right
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>>65111483
what did he mean by this
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Redpill me on carbonado.
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redpill me on redpill
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>>65111725
t. bluepilled embryo
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>>65111679
no one really knows anything about him, other than he's a hispanic. rates many albums before even antiwarhol
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>>65110612
These were already friends with him prior to the avant-teen movement though so I guess Rich just wasn't fed up yet
Was he nice to j_c? I'm not sure if I remember interaction between them
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>>65111642
exitsense has many copycats now, j_c being the most obvious.
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>>65112089
But exitsense is a copycat himself.
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>>65112159
He used to be. I don't see Rich being into the minimalist socially conscious Soundcloud electronic stuff Exitsense is super into now.
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>>65109360
Is this really bossa? The albums on that chart are quite different from bossa's 4.5 and 5.0 ratings
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>>65112233
it's heavily speculated that's him, people on that forum said they've talked to him on RYM but no one outright said it's him or maybe I just haven't searched deep enough yet. also, keep in mind that site doesn't have nearly as many obscurities in its database as RYM does.
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>>65112330
>>65112233
It is him, his soulseek username was also The Poe
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>>65112583
well done, thanks for confirming.
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what did he mean by this
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>>65113083
where was this posted
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>>65113501
RYM
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>>65113501
arcadia's profile
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>>65108213
chz is definitely a mess but what's wrong with battles?
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>>65108320
k
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~suwatte

I need to rate more albums. Pls b my friend.
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>>65114215
t. embryo
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>>65111220
pink skinned teen culturally appropriating african music for internet credibility
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>>65114979
Daisie bitch got nothing on hardboiledbabe and TheProfessional
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https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/james_ferraro/live_at_primavera_sound_2012/

Why do avant-teens like this so much?
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>>65114979
>>65115105
XD
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>>65115574
Who are you talking about here?
And it's probably because exitsense made everything with the post-internet aesthetics that's not outright vaporwave (like Ferraro/OPN) fashionable
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>>65115714
AW and his drones, I follow most of them and..
>Friends 4.00 from 7 ratings
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>>65114979
which user was it that BTFO hardboiiledbabe with the comment "keep rating and cataloging bargain bin afrobeat releases, perhaps it will make up for that dogfaced pink mug of yours"
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>>65115729
Huh, didn't realize he was into electronic stuff really (other than Basic Channel and some jungle)
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>>65115854
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/AntiWarhol/strm_h,ss.rd/Electronic

I guess?
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>>65115714
exitsense used to have this at like 1 star though. it mostly became noticed after Clutnuckle's 5 star rating, I wouldnt call him an avant-teen but he was definitely respected well enough
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SWEEDEN

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Montie_Ray
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>>65115747
I think that was an AW(?) alt account, not sure if it was him or what the account name was but it definitely looked like it was Rich
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>>65115894
Oh shit. That's what I get for not poring over his ratings endlessly like so many others here
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>>65115937
seriously? HBB too?
is anyone safe from this absolute madman?

I'm glad he's found himself now
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>>65115574
it's a pretty impressive record

>>65115894
mostly entry-level, canonized stuff t b h
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>>65116241
>mostly entry-level, canonized stuff t b h
There's 1696 records there
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>>65115854
that's where karl got the idea to go full edm
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>>65115937
>>65116127
Kek, definitely wasn't him.
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>>65115747
Where and when did this happen?
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Could someone redpill me on carburador?
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if someone on my friends list wants an awesomehd invite i'll give it to you. i don't have any irl friends to give it to.

t. arcadia
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>>65116792
avatarfags on /mu/ a bunch, or at least used to.
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>>65116820
I'm not on your friends list but can I have it please
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>>65116846
Is this true? How come he is friends with AW, then? I thought he hated us
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>>65117014
Yeah I don't understand that (or AW being friends with quilled_investigator) either. I think he hates mu more now than he used to back then?
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how do I get ~idol to be my girlfriend
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>>65116890
sorry, can't give it away to strangers or i'll be banned
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>>65115574
Antiwarhol 4.5 tb.h
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>>65117101
is idol really a grill? i wonder if she's qt
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>>65117122
I'll be your friend, just not on rym
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>>65117124
gender is a social construct
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>>65117202
JUST
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>>65117172
>just not on rym
? rich?
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>mfw people think daisiesfree's profile pic is actually her

hahalol.
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>>65117443
>implying he would want an awesomehd invite
I am a somewhat high-profile user and my rym friends will probably stop talking to me if they found out that I post here
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~detcgb
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>>65117516
then just PM me on rym
~etinarcadiaego
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>>65117524
Nice rating system
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>>65117490
no one actually believes that
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someone redpill me on Downstairs
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>>65117490
>>65117669
Who is it then?
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>>65117490
it is, she's in carburador's pictures too
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>>65117516
Hi funeralparade.
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>>65117713
some random girl off of tumblr?
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>>65117744
funeralparade's on my friends list though (he added me after i posted here so you're right on that account)
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>>65116127
reminder that
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>>65117756
Post the link
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>>65117744
>funeralparade
>high orofile user
Man RYM really has gone to shit huh
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>>65117744
Who?
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>>65117744
>>65117759
>>65117932
>>65117950
>mad rym cred
What did he mean by this?
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what is this
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>>65117992
worst fucking list on the site. makes me sick.
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>>65117994
according to google it's from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhaU0OL4m8U

based sal with the GOAT taste
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>>65118021
>he STILL hasn't gotten mad rym cred
wew
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>>65117994
I hate to suggest this but my guess would be marijuana; an unlawful substance used to experience artificial highs.
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>>65117992
It means we can all circlejerk together because we feel special about knowing the gay RYM trends.
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is I0000days legit? i found his kg account and, even though he has more than 3000 film ratings, he has only downloaded like 70 film and only got invited in 2014 by tankpit. sure, he could have gotten those obscure rymcore films from cg, tik or whatever, but then again, if you need tankpit to invite you then you probably aren't in those sites already.
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>>65118277
what's his KG account? i'll help you
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>>65118277
>Tool username
Take a guess.
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>>65118277
>>65118396
nvm, same as RYM.

Here's something for you:
he's rated Ernie Gehr's Side/Walk/Shuttle
Side/Walk/Shuttle is on KG but I can't find it on secret-cinema, cinemageddon, or PTP. an eight minute excerpt (of 37) exists on youtube but that's it.

i can't find any screenings close to when he logged it (2 may 2014)
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>>65118564
oh yeah, most importantly: KG doesn't show him as having snatched it.
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>>65118564
>>65118586
Report his profile. Fake-raters deserve no mercy.
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>>65118564
>>65118613
wew lad
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Help me, I am too salty
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>>65101136
sharifi happened
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since /mu/ is too pleb

How can I listen to more contemporary avantgarde music like Michael Pisaro?
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>>65119731
https://rateyourmusic.com/~exitsense
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>>65109149
i like seeing a lot of variety in friends ratings. i don't like relying 100% on a website that thinks ok computer and dsotm are the best albums of all time.

also my opinions on albums tend to align with this board more often than not

https://rateyourmusic.com/~c5_cicero
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>>65119760
no but can you give me any real suggestions
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>>65119731
Follow the Wanderweiser/Erstwhile squad on facebook, most of those musicians have profiles of their own and frequently keep their acolytes up to date on their projects and such
Alternatively you can reach out to them via e-mail, I suspect most of them are real pleasant types
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>>65119869
>Alternatively you can reach out to them via e-mail
huh
I don't know why I didn't think of that
Michael Pisaro in particular is a professor for fuck's sake I'm sure he'd love to give a mini lecture on his contemporaries
thanks anon!
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>>65117679
There's a 99% chance he posts here.
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>>65120230
I'd say Airmen of Note recordings are like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvnIsufpsQ

Also this from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFsPQy2UpD8
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Finally made an account, quick question. How do you guys rate your music? I remember reading how one anon divided the tracks he likes by the total number of tracks.
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>>65120528
Categorize each ranking. Perfection, Masterpiece, amazing, good, decent, ect.

I wouldn't get into numbers really. Too arbitrary of a thing to mathematically solve
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>>65120528
Don't think in terms of numbers because they're just entirely flawed system
Name your rankings according to however you want. But use the name to define the music, not a number.
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>>65117516
if you actually talked to people on rym you'd know that most had some kind of 4chan phase or fascination & don't really care unless you're one of the obsessive sociopathic types
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>>65120930
Maybe so, but none of my rym friends have admitted to it and I don't want to be the first
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>>65121078
You haven't PM'd me
The invite expires next week
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you guys act like browsing /mu/ is something to feel ashamed about
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>>65121297
most adults are, and rightfully so
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>>65121330
It's less embarrassing then reading most of the posts on the rym forums. I posted on there about posting on here before, nobody gives a shit except for people who think everyone on 4chan is a pedo or something.
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>>65121398
thats probably because ur a lil embryo that no 1 cares about in the first place
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>>65121499
I'm not an attention whore who tries to get tons of friends on there, only validation seeking embryos do that.
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>>65120930
That is true, you can find posts by TCB, exitsense, boundaryfuss, tankpit, glmox ect. in the archive
>>65111483
Will the real exitsense please stand up?!

t. obsessive sociopath
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Now that tcb has been erased is Ukrayf the worst user on RYM?
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>>65121667
I don't know them but they can't be worse then users like MrMungbean or marsbars. Say what you will about the tranny clique, but at least they have decent taste for the most part.
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>>65121667
What's so bad about him?
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>>65121667
His personality is shit, but I can't deny his knowledge of folk music from countries outside of the US is pretty impressive.
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>>65121667
he was always nice from what i remember. also, i don't think his account is active anymore
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>>65121703
Maybe I haven't been paying attention but I really don't get the Marsbars hate. The only time I ever talked to him he was super nice.

Worst user is probably GSP66.
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>>65121955
People dislike his reviewing style I think.
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>>65101387
>>65101136
HAH. I felt bad about not contributing...
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>>65121667
>>65121715
He just copied everything from horbgorbler, from taste to politics
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http://rateyourmusic.com/~gogisadj

Redpill me on myself
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>>65122304
At least he's not obnoxious about it. No different from the dozens of AntiWarhol clones, really.
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>>65122640
fuck is that
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>>65122640
no lol
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>>65120930
heavycoffee used to be a tripfag lmao
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/S26606215#p26606656
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>>65122640
yeah, sometimes
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>>65121955
GSP66 is sometimes annoying but he seems sweet and harmless enough to me
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>>65125153
forgot pic
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