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///Autechre general///
Not sure what all the 2-is-the-weakest ppl are on about, c7b2 is pretty insane and so are the other tracks.
>4 hours
yeah nah
enjoy your bleepy autism
Reminder it is undoubtedly LP12
>>65087424
>not wanting 4 hours of bleepy autism
What's wrong with you, lad ?
>>65087441
I refuse to believe it.
>>65087424
favorite artis?
>>65087441
its not
>So we, uh -
>Are you picking your nose?
>Oh, shit, I'm sorry.
What did he mean by this?
elseq is like autechre's attempt to make harsh noise
How similar are the ae_live things really? Is it unnecessary to listen to all of them?
>>65087673
>>65087686
no, unless ur an obsessive like me, all of them have the same sections, just slightly different.
There's a difference between most of them in the last 15-20 mins, the lush Dublin one for instance and the mental Utrecht one.
I'm happy to have all of them though, to me it was fun hearing diff version of the same sections, but yeah the first halves are VERY similar across each set.
>>65087673
well, rob was photographed hanging out with consumer electronics recently. tho idt elseq is that noisy apart from a few tracks/moments 2bh.
they're massive fans of incapacitants too.
>>65087850
Aight thanks. Seen them live in utrecht, not sure if I even want to listen to the soundboard.
anyone else find it kinda cool that elseq is warp512, 512 being 2^9
>>65088043
No.
>>65088043
there's another one that's 128
Does the percussion on c16 deep tread remind anyone else of their remix of Skeng?
>>65088098
*confield
>>65087424
*bloopy
1 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 4
4 is nice and has great beats but is way too hedonistic for my tastes. Those chords ruin "acdwn2," they sound like Mbuki Mvuki, which is a great album, but it doesn't mesh well with Autechre. "latentcall" sounds like Aphex Twin with better sound design, but it doesn't cancel out the fact that it sounds like Aphex Twin. I dig the other three tracks. 1 is exactly what I expected from the record, really strong start. "c16 deep tread" is my favorite track off 1, the beat is somewhat ridiculous and the whole thing feels like an intimidating joke on the listener, this goofy ass beat of all is what's pulled from AE_LIVE. Brilliant track. Runner up is "pendulu hv moda" for its beautiful pop sensibilities while still being really intriguing, second half turns me into mist.
lol this is stephan mathieu. something in the mixing IS a bit off, yeah? still, lol.
>>65088001
2015 live sets are a big improvement over the 2014 ones. check out grafenhainichen, has most of their ideas.
>>65088553
latentcall reminds me of chiastic slide in terms of atmosphere/sound design but with peel session 2-esque percussion.
>>65088613
is the 24 bit version mixed differently?
>>65088613
is there something specifically wrong with the 24 bit version?
>>65088749
>>65088756
idk, i'm guessing that's just the one he bought and he noticed it was pretty compressed.
>>65088794
does he mention the mixing or compression anywhere?
>>65088696
i can maybe see chiastic slide in it, perhaps if they were to make chiastic slide today they would sound similar. I think the track will grow on me, definitely is very solid, just gives me a bad taste, kind of like when I first listened to Confield.
>>65088043
What's so cool about that ?
>>65088553
2>5>4>1>3
>>65088810
https://twitter.com/stephanmathieu/status/733365057871024128
https://twitter.com/stephanmathieu/status/733388647769202689
this is all he said
>>65088913
oh he just doesn't get it lol
not surprising really
>>65088843
cuz binary
the last third of mesh cereal makes me sad
>>65088934
well, he does master music for a living (besides also making music)
>>65088913
Why does he think that 24-bit wav will be less compressed than normal mp3s and 16-bit?
That's kinda stupid
>>65088996
yeah but this is ae we are talking about not some soundcloud babbies
they've been using compression creatively since they were kids, he doesn't know where they're coming from
the sound staging on elseq is deep, there are some sounds close to 0db while other stuff is way out there, that's kind of hard to do (impossible) when you just brickwall everything
he's right to notice a ton of compression and there's a ton of subtractive/weird parallel shit going on as well
not to everyone's taste of course
>>65089169
ty for your input mate. idk much about this stuff so...
i dig mathieu's music but looking at his twitter now he just seems like the type to complain about stuff just coz he can.
>>65089264
yeah he's entitled
so how are ae ever gonna top this
>>65089444
elseq6-10
here's all 26 bits of album artwork arranged in a way that made sense to me when i made it
blame elyc6 0nset i guess
>>65087441
still kinda doubt it and held off on buying it pending lp12 proper but finally caved today. its too good and it might be a while before theres any official word on what the hell it really is (edited live sequences seems to make sense). i do think wikipedia has jumped the gun in calling it an lp tho
>>65089571
it's got an LP catalog number
>>65089571
you should do ones similar to that except for each individual elseq and their individual track cover art
>>65089638
it's catalog number also subdivides the discs into their own variants of it
imo it's either a series of 5 eps or it's neither and lp or a set of eps
>>65089638
yeah, we'll see. ae_live has a catalog # too and afaik neither have/will have physical releases
>>65089640
wouldnt really work. theres 26 total which works for a 5x5 grid +1 in the background...elseq 2 & 3 could easily be 2x2 grids but that's pretty small and 1, 4, and 5 would each have 6 bits of art with no convenient way to make them square
what else are there 26 of?
>>65089691
yeah, I guess it would probably require some photoshop fuckery to essentially redesign the elements of each cover into a cohesive whole that isn't just a grid of the original covers
oh well
>>65089664
>it's
>and
fuck I'm tired
>>65090096
why are you doing this? why are you trying to reinforce the worst stereotypes about this fanbase senpai?
>>65090334
>caring what newfags think of autechre
>>65090416
you do know they're very popular on this board? you do know there's been a general in the catalogue every day for almost a month now? it's not like they're obscure. sure, they aren't at kanye or radiohead levels, but c'mon, don't kid yourself.
>>65090474
they're somewhat popular with the people here who regularly listen to "electronic music," but there's a surprisingly large amount of people here who just straight up don't listen to electronic shit other than the most basic stuff imaginable, typically a small fraction of what's in the extended mu/core chart and then flavor of the month stuff like Jamie XX
>>65090474
The newfags of neo/mu/ (2015/16) are not the same as years past
>>65090519
>>65090548
i don't think that's true at all. maybe a year ago, but they've been steadily building up hype and attention since the north american tour last year and /ae/ generals are quite frequent. they always pop into people's charts too.
either way, why you'd want to connect an artist you like to an autistic hissyfit you're having on 4chan is inconceivable to me.
https://soundcloud.com/giorgiomoroder/611-time-out-autechre-remix-morodershockne
its alright, but i'm glad it's not on elseq. honestly, i don't love it when autechre play with this sort of percussion.
>>65091085
Year, it is not that good.
AAA 2.0 when
are u guys just tsundere for watmm because you don't have an account there?
>fw got in before joyrex started demanding shekels
Anyone else think curvcaten seems lazy
It feels like they found a little theme that sounded cool and built up around it but the theme ended up not being that cool and it was sort of too late to go back since they spent tons of time on it. I don't like the stereo dundunDON-dunDoon things.
What is everyone's favorite b-side/one off single?
Syptixed is the best I think, love its spaciness and icy pads
>>65092595
SYptixed is pretty great. I'm also pretty partial towards Nonima, SAW-y as it may be.
>>65092371
Nope, I paid for an account on there and the people are horrible. It's Reddit for IDM, but more hostile.
>>65092724
a lot of them seem pretty entitled and elitist
i guess paying to use a forum will do that
hey! I dropped Basscadet last night at a rave. still rocks the house, senpai.
>>65092847
it's a corker
>>65091085
I like their spacier drums or their hip-hoppy ones. That track (and some of Peel Session 2) borders too close to breakcore shit. Luckily they don't do it often at all.
>>65092847
I heard Second Bad Vilbel played at a rave I went to last year
i can't tell anymore if I like ae's music or just how good it aesthetically sounds if that makes any sense. its like a girl that is perfect but for some reason you dont click
>>65093475
there are different ways to like music. it doesn't have to be so rigid. don't sweat it.
>>65091085
sounds like it's just a short little remix they did for fun. it certainly isn't a polished track.
I think this is autechre's worst release. These tracks sound like just a bunch of rushed, unrelated jams. This doesn't sound like a complete or coherent album at all. There's only like 2 or 3 memorable tracks. And even those aren't super special.
Note: Autechre is still one of my favorite bands and I'm only judging elseq 1-5 in relation to their other albums. I still think elseq 1-5 is good. :)
>>65094205
completely agree
>>65094225
thx i was expecting to get roasted
>>65094205
i think the jam aspect is why i like it - it's much more organic and freeform and billowing. certain facets seem to just bounce off each other naturally since they aren't being as controlled and polished and honed to perfect nubs. honestly i love ae, but sometimes i get tired of the microscopic scale that some of their releases rely on - i'm always a little afraid they're going to go into full wank sound design mode like richard devine or later amon tobin - but this release has a broader more vast quality to it. it's refreshing to me.
but it's just down to taste innit? some stuff appeals more to you. opinions are mental lol.
>>65087424
Thanks dude I will
>>65093839
to me that's (sorta) sad though. like in the nineties their remixes would have as much thought put into them as some of their own tracks. from the remixes they've done this decade i really only love the oberman knocks one, the russell haswell one, and skeng. all those are really good though and i suppose they put more time into their own shit nowadays, which i won't complain about.
>>65094552
Yeah, but they also didn't release four hour albums in the '90s, so I'm not complaining.
>>65094586
yeah, that's what inferring with my last sentence. i reckon getting their live show set up and stable takes a lot more time too these days. pretty sure sean said that took up the bulk of their time from 2013-2014.
>>65092595
puch
I'm a real pleb, and I've only listened to Incunabula, Amber and Tri Repetae++ (my favorite) from ae. When I listened to feed1 it really just sounded like noise to me, I couldn't find any beat. Should I try and find one, is there even one? How do I enjoy it?
Should I listen to their whole discography before getting to elseq?
>>65087424
>on /mu/
>not autistic
pick one
>>65088553
I gotta agree that 1 is best but I wouldn't put 4 as worst
>>65095929
You don't listen to new Autechre for the beat. I recommend listening to Chiastic Slide, LP5, and Confield, then come back and try it again. If it's still too much, then continue going through their discography.
>>65092518
Yeah, pretty disappointing.
>>65095929
>Should I listen to their whole discography before getting to elseq?
yes
>I couldn't find any beat
there's a very quiet, but propulsive kick. it's pretty much a techno beat.
>>65093524
Stop being civil on /mu/, you're ruining it
>>65094205
I wouldn't say worst, but I think they were trying way too hard fitting in so goddamn much and wanted it to be their "biggest, best ever" that a lot of it just feels forced
>>65095929
The most accessible of their recent stuff is Untitled or Quartisice. Maybe check them out first?
>>65094205
It's certainly more coherent than Quaristice, and feels a lot like what they wanted that album to be, if they hadn't been forced by album limitations to cut most of the tracks down to 2-5 minutes.
>>65096261
Really? Quaristice feels really complete to me. Like the first song really sounds like an opening; the last song really feels like a conclusion. But the elseq tracklist just seems completely random. Everything just feels like they were fucking around. The last song is seriously just a bunch of compressed reverb and then the album is over.
>>65096110
>wanted it to be their "biggest, best ever"
hmm, i don't really get this feeling. i think the almost unceremonious dumping almost points to the opposite.
>>65096261
yeah, in many ways i feel like this is what they've wanted to do for a while but they were always forced to conform to a traditional album format. they fought against this somewhat with exai and quadrange, but now that they have this new avenue to release an almost limitless amount of music (bleepstores) with very little hassle, the parameters have been blown wide open. in many ways this release is quintessential autechre.
even if i don't love every single moment, this to me is closest we've ever gotten to being dropped right into rob and sean's mind and their natural propensities. but of course it's all up to perspective.
>>65096399
Quaristice, like elseq, is just a collection of edited jams, but the difference is that Quaristice had to be laid out as if it were designed as a single album. They didn't have to worry about that here, which is why it doesn't feel as structured. It does sound a lot more cohesive than Quaristice, though, since the latter had a lot of tracks that just came out of nowhere and ended just as quickly. elseq also seems a lot more developed, as Sean and Rob had a lot more freedom to do what they wanted with their tracks.
>>65096267
Every /aeg/ is like that
>>65088043
isnt elseq similar to el (eleventh) seq (sequel or second).
Ie the sequel to Exai (XI=eleventh). Not sure if this means its LP12 or just a followup to exai
>>65087424
yeah but its comfy bleepy autism
why would this not be the album tho? the only thing that i find sus is warp's refusal to classify it as such, but that could be on behalf on sean and rob.
>>65096811
woa that dog looks comfy ur makin me want to go to bed
>>65096485
Completely agreed
>>65096811
what a comfy pupper :3
>>65095929
Listen to ae chronologically senpai
>>65097590
this this this this this
this is their best album right, guys?
THIS is the greatest thing they've ever achieved. They will never be able to top this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Huny02GCj6I
>>65096811
this
also sleep well pupper
>>65097895
"anyone could make this"
yeah good point. which is why i think Confield is their best album, because they make some music with high technical skill.
>>65088139
yes!.. I love that remix though
inb4 p4k muder this :)
>>65098281
it's gonna be hilarious desu
>>65098281
>implying p4k or any other site would touch elseq with a 30ft pole
>>65098606
will fagtano review or be unaware of it existing?
>>65098634
hes already tweeted about it lol
>>65098606
they will
Autechre finally made an album based on the great early albums of merzbow. If you are confused by this release, listen to albums like Merzbient, Ecobondage, Collection series, Storage, etc.
This is basically their direct answer to Merzbient.
>>65097590
Aight, I'm gonna go do this.
Should I listen to the EPs along the way or after I'm finished with the albums? Which ones are essential?
>>65098766
along the way
Amber: Anti
Tri Rep: Garbage/Anvil Vapre (you would have heard these if you listened to Tri Rep ++), Peel Session 1
Chiastic Slide: Envane, Cichlisuite
LP5 : EP7
Confield: Gantz Graf
Quaristice: quaristice.quadrange.ep.ae
Oversteps: Move of Ten
Exai: L-event
you can do the others later if you want, but these are the essentials imo.
>>65098662
obviously elseq isn't a noise record, but i'm surprised it took them this long to get this noisy, especially since they're close friends with russell haswell, hecker, peter rehberg, etc.
>>65096686
That sounds plausible, and would make a lot of sense actually.
This and their soundboards feel like an evolved version of their Exai & L-Event material.
>>65098997
The lack of emotion, the constancy of timbre, the feeling of taking in chaotic information. Long tracks of a very long album. Seems super redolent of Merzbient to me, almost uncannily.
>>65098766
The EP's are just as good as the albums. Treat them as such.
>>65098953 lists almost all of them. DEFINITELY listen to all of thse.
The one's he's missing are:
Cavity Job: pre-Incunabula, meh, their pablo honey
Basscad,EP: nice remixes of basscad off of incunabula. enjoyable
We R Are Why/ Are Y Are We?: single released after Tri Repetae, nice TR-style trax, bit dancier
EP7 is basically an album fyi, it's 2 ep's put together. Better than some of their albums 2bh
Peel Session 2: some great tracks from the whole Chiastic Slide/ Cichlisuite/ LP5/ EP7 era. good shit
Splitrmx12: a lot more ambient, more Amber esque. Remixes of some krautrock music. pretty fuckin cool
Quaristice Versions: yet more remixes of quaristice songs. Important to listen to all of the quaristice stuff to get the whole experience
Digital Exclusive: another couple quaristice songs with slight differences and a great another track. enjoyable
ae have OFFICIALLY gone full mego with this release
god DAMN
>>65099054
i'd say cavity job, basscad, we r why, splitrmex12 are unessential listening for the first go though - don't want it to be too overwhelming, so that's why i didn't list those. imo peel session 2 (apart from gelk) is the weakest thing they've put out 2bh.
Why do they hate melody so much lads
>>65099132
agreed about those. I think quaristice versions and peel session 2 (i like it) should be called essential imo
>>65099149
because melody's been done to death man. fucking cavemen probably hummed melodies. you cant do anything new with it man. rhythm and texture are where its at
>>65099149
oversteps was stuffed with so much melody it was ridiculous - just krylon alone. lovely stuff.
>yfw foldfree casual
>>65099531
anyone else hear 444 has a big time melancholic tune? #sadsean desu
>>65099648
sad as hell man.
one of their most emotive songs along with rae
>>65099648
what's a #sadrob tune
>>65099648
>....hear 444 AS a big time... *
>>65099736
yep rae's a good one too
>>65099758
piezo desu. those disappointed robot groans are def rob
>>65099778
piezo i cry every time for little booby mcbloopington the robot being de-welded
>>65099778
How do you tell apart Rob and Sean's contributions? Pretty new ae fan here
>>65099790
if i reread all their interviews i'd probably be able to rationalize it somehow ("rob's more emotional, you know?") , but for now i'm just going by a gut feeling.
resurrecting an old watmm ae meme for the oldschool crew, hold tight:
unreleased ae:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67suyQIZ2Pw
>>65099758
os veix3
>>65099786
i always thought it was an alien in desperate need of a lozenge
>>65099790
some of the first few posts here
http://forum.watmm.com/topic/90394-who-does-what/
are interesting.
i had forgotten about rob's hiphop mixtape thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdmjAjuDJRE
i suppose you could take from that m a y b e rob is more responsible for the hip hoppy beats than sean is, but then again it's not as if sean wasn't well into electro/hiphop either so who knows
>>65099888
but sean is super hip-hop - they both are. in fact im pretty sure he did recks on. sean also did most of the beats on the quaristice tour.
>>65099790
sean brings the sick beats and rob brings the lush chords
(no one really knows, and Sean+Rob refuse to say which tracks are whose)
>>65099931
plus they constantly imitate and rip each other off apparently. but i think about who did which track often.
>listens to oversteps once
For some reason I have a really bad feeling that fantano is going to review this out of the blue, score it high, and make ae the new cool thing to like for edgy teens. I mean I think everyone should listen to the boyz, but for the right reasons.
>>65100275
i don't really think you have to worry about that. he already gave exai an 8 and placed it high on his aoty 2013 list. it'll be fine (plus idt he'll rate elseq high)
but even if these needledrop viewers listen to it because of fantano, if they manage to get thru the 4 hour runtime and also come out enjoying it by the end, don't you think that's a "right reason" to be considered a fan? like, there are dudes who were at shows ae played in '94 that won't even give the new stuff a chance cause it's just bullshit to them and "wahh why can't they make nil 67 more times."
bet you 100 bucks fantano's been in /aeg/ fishing for impressions/consensus to base his review on
f'n melon
>>65100557
who cares? why are we even talking about fantano? lets talk about how hard acdwn2 bangs.
>>65100073
accurate
scifi, space, future, wot's this, excellent, computers y'know, oh music made on electronic gear i could do that
>>65099817
kek this sounds like the drums on pendulu hv moda
>>65099648
also Eggshell. That melody will stick with me forever
>>65101367
what did he mean by this?
>>65087686
I'd say that most of the parts are reused and appear in most if not all of the sets. You'll definitely hear parts over and over again if you listen to them all. Some parts are only used a few times and some parts sound slightly different based on what set you're listening to. I think of it as multiple mixes or remixes of the same album but yes, there is a lot of repetition across all sets.
http://autechre.net.ua/en/interviews/interview34.htm
>That's the fucking complete opposite of what I'm saying to you
>This is the part you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. Do you know anything about generative music?
>So you know about mapping complex numbers against imaginary numbers, but what can you tell me about our music? Do you actually know anything about the way that we make music, or are we speculating? (laughs)
>For start, the word 'random' -- it takes the shit right out of me. There's absolutely nothing random about what we do.
Damn...
>>65101456
Now that's the stuff I'm talking about. Much as I love their post-EP7 work, their '90s ambient techno like stuff still has a special place in my heart.
What's some essential ae B-side/compilation tracks, lads? Any good stuff I'm missing out on?
>>65101735
Inhake 3
Lanx 3
Konlied MX
All Tomorrow's Linoleum
some of my favs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By-KpAsYpGc
ABSOLUTE WEW
Exai is my favorite ae album, is elseq close to that sound?
Also, are you all shelling out the $30+ for this or what?
>>65101800
Yes it is close, more "abstract" and "out there" I think
>>65101800
I'd say so, if you liked exai for it's industrial harshness. Plenty of elseq's tracks use abrasive sounds in a beat oriented way.
>>65101735
theres a bootleg remix compilation called laxir, you could check that out
https://soundcloud.com/giorgiomoroder/611-time-out-autechre-remix-morodershockne?in=warp-records%2Fsets%2Ftron-remixes
>dance and edm
>>65099149
>melody
pretty sure there are lots of melodies on elseq
you could argue there are not so many looping melodies, but there are more melodies on elseq than on most records (which just have one melody repeating lots of times)
>>65089444
I BITE THROUGH IT
Does this melody from IO often get stuck in anyone else's head? I swear it's always in mine.
>>65103033
link?
>>65101630
>I should have a more verbose message on the machine. But I don't think it's very audible for international gates, it's confusing up me phone lines. Cause you got a noise gate on an international call, so you don't hear the message cause it's so quiet.
Getting all technical on the phone lines kek
>>65101800
>Also, are you all shelling out the $30+ for this or what?
I bought the MP3 initially, but since I love it I'm probably going to refund that and re-buy it in FLAC or 24bit WAV.
I firmly believe that just becuase you *can* pirate something doesn't mean you should and that piracy is just another inevitability as mainstream pop; it should be irrelevant to the rest of music and your life.
>>65101630
>AR - Your popularity irks you. Why not change Ae's name?
>SB - (Laughs) Yeah, we do all the time, but it wouldn't be a secret if I told you about it, would it? Obviously we don't always operate under the same name and don't always produce the same kind of music. I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be free if I was gonna dish out all the info in interviews like this.
shit...
>>65103546
So do we know some of those?
>>65101630
He's being quite harsh there tho, in AAA they were plenty willing to talk specifics on software and gear.
>>65103612
i think they mellowed a lot since then
>>65103605
Well there's Gescom but besides that I've no idea.
>AR - CDs of programs that run and sound like Autechre?
>SB - Yeah, we've done a fair bit of that. We've already done a couple of releases of recordings of systems that generate recordings. I think our first Fals.ch release came out about 18 months ago, maybe even two years ago. We've done a few things like that. You don't get the familiarity aspects, you don't get the sort of direct communicative aspects you get with recorded music.
Anyone know more about this?
>>65103033
it gets a bad wrap from what I've seen, but it's not a bad tune
>>65103674
i found a thread about it here
http://xltronic.com/mb/44678/gescoms-falsch-release
the fals.ch site seems to be down though
>>65103768
Yea I found this on discogs
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Falsch-02/release/410894
and there's something in the liner notes about a program from gescom.
Also this:
http://www.a-musik.com/p/product/v-a-fals-ch-fb50-no-2-3-cd-rom-37462.html
"MP3, QUICKTIME, PDF, SHOCKWAVE AND OTHER FILES "
>>65103813
>Also includes two programs: "mp3q" by Atau Tanaka (fb37), and "9Û5©03^.¶·5K70¸12i--) ..1`2`|||" by Gescom (fb38).
there are a few for sale here
https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/410894?ev=rb
Do you think they'll do an interview any time soon? Or would that take away from the mystique of this release? I just really wanna know their headspace and intentions and inspirations behind this.
>>65104613
i hope they do. the more i listen to elseq the more hyped i'm getting at the possibility of frequent releases on their store. wasn't expecting so many classic tracks. pendulu hv moda is a classic
>>65096110
>Biggest best ever
I never got that feeling especially since it dropped out of nowhere and is digital release only.
>>65104916
IMHO it's just a lot of music they dumped for the fans. All tastes pleased.
>>65103605
I think they might have been in North Manc Beds.
I'm actually hearing a lot of Chiastic Slide in this.
elseq 5 is the GOAT ae release.
>>65101800
Absolutely. Exai was my favorite ae album as well until I heard this. It's like Exai but more Exai.
>>65104916
yes and I'm grateful
I wouldn't want to have missed out on elyc6 onset or mesh cinereal because of physical media constraints.
>>65105914
it's ae_live, divided by zero.
Has anybody else noticed that elyc6 0nset is mixed very quietly ? I always have to turn it way up for it to sound right, then chimer 1-5-1 comes in and blasts the fuck out of me.
>>65107891
yeah it starts normal and just gets quieter and quieter
agree it's weird
I've seen some ppl worried about a new wave of fans coming in, but at this point I'd love a younger, more open minded thinking group of listeners getting into them. Appreciating the weirder facets.
I dunno, for instance it just sort of confuses me that 90% of the comments on the Warp and Ae_Store Facebook posts announcing elseq are of the old farts complaining about not getting to have CDs. Like they've just released 4 hours of new music (after the 9 hours last year) and you whinge about that? The pricing on Bleep is ridiculous, sure, but cmon lol. Wew that was a tangent sorry.
>>65108112
Meant to write open minded/forward thinking there whoops
my new fave for the moment is spTh
feels like I'm in deep space watching a star cluster colliding from a huge distance
>>65108354
get that shit out of here
>>65108112
i think the release was criticizing that exact mindset and how outdated it is
>>65108383
>get that shit out of here
Fuck me I love /aeg/
>>65087344
3 cds in and this is garbage. only liked a couple of tracks. Guess Autechre finally made like every other 90s electronica legend and got bad.
>>65108383
>i think the release was criticizing that exact mindset and how outdated it is
I go back and forth on whether this is. Autechre, to me, have always approached music in a formalistic way, in that it is the pure sound of everything and their aesthetics that hold authority - not context (on the flipside, I don't think the listener necessarily approaches them this way). They never have imbued any sort of slant or statement in to their music apart from Flutter. So if they have done that this time around, this is a something that's very novel for them.
>>65108742
this, although i think this album is just a fluke.
>>65108742
Actually, it's the best thing they've released.
>>65108742
>garbage
it was pretty great desu
>>65101630
>>65103546
>>65103488
I love reading Rob interviews compared to Sean's cause Sean is just so prickly and all "fuckin 'ell, ill have yer head" but Rob will often talk in like flowery metaphors and shit.
>>65108742
You just have shit taste. You'll grow out of it.
do you guys think that rob and sean made most of elseq together since it's essentially a lot of jamming based on the live shows?
>>65110730
rob has been dead since exai you idiot
>>65111043
dont u even dare to joke about such things u banana
>exai
>x i
>XI
>11
>eleventh album
>elseq
>?
>>65111234
eleven sequel
>>65111258
Damn...
What did they mean by this?
>>65111315
That it's a sequel to Exai.
>>65111258
source?
>>65111779
source: the letters
>>65111854
not sure your schizophrenia counts as a source anon
>>65111920
that anon wasn't me, but it's just a guess. other ppl have posited that it means edited live sequences or that el = L which is the 12th letter in the alphabet. or it could be all those things at once.
literally no info about this "album" has been released besides the og announcement and press release (and even that is vague as hell - warp even just calls it a collection)
>>65112080
yeah idk either lol
>>65110730
sean and rob working on elseq:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ
>>65111315
that its not lp12 but lp11 2
>>65113778
it's lp12 it's lp12 it's lp12 it's lp12 it's lp12
okay, who was shitposting in /daily/?
I listened to LP5 for the first time yesterday and it was really good
Should I listen to it again or should I listen to Confield?
>>65114600
what have you listened to by them so far?
>>65114600
Try Confield but don't expect to like it yet.
>>65112276
lmao
>>65114620
Up to LP5.
Before elseq I'd only really heard Tri Repetae but I'm trying to work my way through now because feed1 was really good and the method of delivery is pretty crazy. I've just been giving each one a single listen and moving on but I did that with Unwound last year and nothing really ended up sticking from them. As much as I like LP5 already and I want to hear everything they have (I listened to the first few minutes of Exai a little while ago and it made my brain melt) I also want to make sure I don't miss out on really appreciating them, you know?
>>65114661
well, if you really want to listen to lp5 or a previous album more, go for it. just don't get hung up on them for too long and get in a rut where you only feel like listening to that and don't want to move on.
confield will be mindbending btw
>>65114661
that's a very sensible approach, mate. idk, i'd say just do whatever feels organic to you - don't force it. like, if you feel like you gelled with lp5 and are ready to move on then do so. but if you're hesitant, then listen to it again. or listen to confield and then listen to lp5 again. just whatever feels right, y'know?
>>65108321
Sounds amazing, will keep this in mind when listening to it next time
>>65114698
>>65114722
Sounds like a plan, thanks. I'll probably give LP5 a few minutes and then move onto Confield later.
Although I've heard VI Scoise Pose once before so I fully expect it to be impenetrable at first lmao
Why even have a general if you're just gonna start threads outside of it anyway
>>65114824
im doing something similar to you anon but more thorough. including all the EP's and everything. first i listened to the incunabula-era stuff a few times, then the amber-tri repetae stuff, then the chiastic/cichlisuite/lp5/ep7 stuff. now im going back and doing it all again. interesting the appreciation you get for incunabula after hearing what it evolved into.once i get through it all again im gonna listen to confield. I hear that thing is mindblowing.
Also it might seem like it takes a ton of time but it really hasn't felt like it because I listen to it while programming or doing math. Fitting I think.
I've heard so much about confield, I might even wait until I can get some mushrooms or acid before I listen to it for the first time.. meaning when i go back to school next semester lol.
>>65115134
i hope confield lives up to your expectations. for me that album created a seismic shift in how i perceive music, but at the same time i think people can overstate how "challenging" it is. i think a lot of people who are taken by surprise are the ones who skip ep7, because there is certainly a logical progression from that to confield.
also it is a truly wonderful listen high, but i find it's better to do that after you listen to it sober so you have some degree of familiarity.
>>65115253
It's a damn shame people skip ep7, it's probably my favorite of what I've listened to so far. If confield continues in the direction ep7 went I will be very very happy.
>also it is a truly wonderful listen high, but i find it's better to do that after you listen to it sober so you have some degree of familiarity.
Sounds like a plan.
>>65114124
>>65114999
its prob just some anon with no chill
elseq is barely even listenable for me. Not because the music is bad, but because it sounds so poorly mixed and overcompressed. I might as well be listening to 128kbps recordings. Anyone else feel the same way?
>>65116051
No really I don't
>>65116051
Not really, I actually feel it's really clear and crisp compared to Exai which felt really murky to me.
>>65116093
>>65116051
it's for sure compressed but it sounds intentional to me? unlike untilted which is borderline unlistenable.
okay boys lets hear it
http://www.strawpoll.me/10295745
>>65116444
Nice ae trips.
It's good. I think it could be edited down some but otherwise it's p mental lads
>>65099648
Pule from chiastic slide has always been very emotional to me especially the ending it sounds like an alien or robot gasping for life
>>65117395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw0cuvL5NMU
this mix is actually my favorite autechre song
>>65117495
Wow thank you, where did this mix come from?
Are Rob and Sean friends
>>65117969
with benefits
they will never top confield and i am okay with that
>>65117726
no idea, just saw it in youtube suggestions one day
i'm surprised/amused there hasn't been any reviews yet. doesn't matter, but it's interesting
>>65118951
there's been like nothing. half of major publications haven't even reported on it or tweeted about it or anything. it's seriously the weirdest thing to me.
>>65119034
The exact same thing happened with ae_live. It's about money; if you refuse do any promotion (exclusive interviews for instance) then reviewing sites won't reciprocate. Ae refuses to play ball, so they aren't getting any press
>>65119275
but i think it also shows that ae have less clout and "status" than ppl think (esp on /mu/ where they get called overrated a fair bit; list goes on meme etc.), despite being a mainstay and big name on a label such as warp. this is not meant to be a slight or anything, but if boc or afx had done exactly the same thing then there would certainly be more hype.
>>65119468
Think there are some problems between Warp and AE?
>>65119548
not the same anon but i think it has less to do with Warp and ae's relationship and more to do with ae's relationship to the music industry / music media outlets / fanbases
They don't get wrapped up in the system, so the system doesnt bother (usually because $$)
