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Oldschool Undergound Bay Area Thrash edition
Old >>65067712
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Can somebody recommend me some Death Metal like this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPKOnc5jLk
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I'm tired of primitive black metal. Sometimes I grab my bass and make up a tremolo riff on the spot and realize this must be how most BM musicians write their music, since 90% of all BM sounds like this. It's so dumb and effortless.
Is there such thing as technical black metal?
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Aion had some really fucking strange riffs for power metal, almost has that weird voivod vibe at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDxGjAkfJ4Y
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>>65076570
>Is there such thing as technical black metal?
How have you not listened to Paracletus?
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>>65076570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqVJ4bRTFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pqbDMKBt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UHKw4dR3VM
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>>65076573
Trust me you wouldn't give a shit if this wasn't coated in weeb visual kei japanese bollocks fuck you
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>>65076591
unfortunately all the riffs on it are garbage
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>>65076591
Let me rephrase: Is there such thing as technical black metal that isn't pretentious crap?
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I have it on good authority that Mikko Aspa is the current vocalist of DsO. The secret is out!
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>>65076613
not that anon but I think Aion is great and I hate anime and weebs
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>>65076652
how can you hate weebs if your one urself mate?
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>>65076570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNloyxCofts

The clip is cheesy af but it's BM after all
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>>65076672
what makes you say that?
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>>65076683
it's beacause you like something from Japan man. that mean's your a weeb
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>>65076699
that's a pretty stretched definition for weeb you have there
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>>65076729
it's a meme you dip
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>>65076391
i always felt it was a summer album, nostalgic but still presenting summer as a great thing
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>>65076742
ok then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rj75fT6R5M

Prog death/thrash, the guitars sound raspy af but the overall prod isn't too bad
A fun album really
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>>65076599
>>65076679
interesting stuff, thanks
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>>65076743
huh, I feel like it's pretty much seasonal affective disorder: the album
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>>65076599
drottnar suck so bad
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>>65076613
I'd still give a fuck lad, Voivod's my favorite band of all time and I also like old school power metal too. Aion's a combination of the two things I enjoy.
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>>65076742
don't reply on my behalf please. you shouldn''t patronize me just because i'm retarded
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>>59731905

>/int/ has better metal threads than /mu/
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>>65076957
your favourite band
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Heathen/Victims_of_Deception/1412/Nightcrawler/326

I think this review sums up the problems of late 80s/early 90s thrash pretty well

>So what's this album really got going against it? Well, it's as simple as this - there's nothing on here that makes me want to THRASH.
>It's thrash alright, but it lacks the aggression and intensity to back it up
>this fails for the same reason that so many other bands that rose up around this time failed - putting the focus on technicality rather than utter intensity and failing to combine the two.
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>>65077061
that argument is basically muh fun
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Anyone got a download to Despairing Fates by Soulmass?
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>>65076783
i dont know im an ESL
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>>65077082
yes, and where's the problem with that? you like listening to boring music?
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>>65076616

What a pleb.
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>>65077187
still riding on that DsO cock eh?
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>>65077278

Why would I suddenly dislike a band I've listened to for 10 years?
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>>65077320
>being a pleb for 10 years
I almost feel bad for you.
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>>65077351

Nah, allowing memes to alter your tastes and perceptions is being a pleb. Caring about "pretentiousness" is what makes you a pleb. Caring about something being "trendy" is what makes you a pleb.
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Recommend metal to paint my bathroom to

Pic related is what I have on now
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>>65077429
DsO being trendy doesn't bother me
their music being really shitty does
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>>65077466

The only reason you actually dislike DsO is because memes. You've been told their music is shitty purely because they are popular, and hating DsO has become a meme.

No one actually dislikes DsO. They may find the music not entirely to their liking, but only a pleb memer would claim their music is shitty.
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>>65077548
>No one actually dislikes DsO
>this is what DsO fans actually believe
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>>65077548
what if you hate DsO before the memes came rolling in?
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>>65077591

If you hated DsO back in 2009 it's still out of a disdain for the "trendy" and popular. Just read DsO reviews on MA. The negative ones are some of the most utterly inane nonsensical mental gymnastics you'll ever read.
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Thoughts?
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>>65077628
The 0% reviews for Si Monvmentvm are shit, sure, especially the Noktorn's one. But Noktorn has always been an idiot anyways.
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>>65077668
>periphery
Seriously?
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>>65077444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9BhLUzx1e4
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>>65077668
The only band on this image that I listen to is Gorguts.
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>>65077668
>Meshugah
>degenerate
precise
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>feat Bjorn "Speed" Strid
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>>65076570
"Technical" isn't the term I'd use, but maybe you'll like:

Windir - Likferd
Enslaved - All albums
Ved Buens Ende - Written In Waters
Fleurety - Min Tid Skal Komme
Taake - Hordaland Doedskvad
Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel
Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. 1
And then there's prog stuff like Arcturus, Borknagar.
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How trve are you?
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>>65077668
Fuck off djentshareguy
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>>65077757
who else /ohshitniggerandproud/ here?
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>>65077757
Pretty sure everyone in these threads is oh shit nigger
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>>65077755
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHHJ4T37UKw
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>>65077757
>tfw /kvlt/ /trve kvlt/, /oh shit nigger/ and /kawaii/
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>>65077757
I'm all of those except the first one and the two last ones. Love Pantera, though.
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>>65077757
given how these threads have been for years everybody here's probably the middle ones and the last one
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>>65077668
>periphery
Ebin meme my dood
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ok, time to rant
why the fuck do people only remember Zombie Attack when talking about Tankard? The following albums, Chemical Invasion and The Morning After, are not only much better than the debut, but better (and even more technical) than any album by Destruction, Kreator or Sodom.
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>>65077757
what band is that in the middle of the one with the spoopy dolphin?
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>>65077890
based Neoandertals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUgpSZ2XYpE
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>>65077668
Also meshuggah should be in pleb tier get the fuck out
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SOMEONE GIVE ME ALL THE SCREAM BLOODY GORE COVER MEMES PLEASE
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>>65076785
why?
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>>65077757
The artist I listen to the most on there is sigh so kawaii ayy lmao
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DsO, take notes. This is how you make good pretentious bm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLUxL6JJuGU
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>>65077755
kek
this should definetly change your mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjTPG7q3AR8
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post god-tier screams

>3:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogY28_5ayDI
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>>65077905
is this a two-bass band? or do I hear three? the hell am i listening to?
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>>65077976
>when the memeing goes too far
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>>65077980
>Sonic Syndicate
Not even gonna click it
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>>65078014
This song's filled to the brim with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtCy8kbwPjM
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>>65078014
https://youtu.be/qpN0bsjSctE?t=1m34s
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>>65078016
it's a single bass. the production is just crappy desu
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Thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg0cHa97Q9g
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>>65078014
4:10 blows me away every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3baPUqa2E
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>>65078014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm8zsLT29tQ
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>>65076570
LOL
>Bass
>Black Metal
GG senpai
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>>65078014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ625uG_gGc
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>>65078014 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ci5tsxUFMQc
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>>65078134
>hey guys check out this new DsO EP
>hey let's name our band after it and copy the style but forget to make actually interesting music

You know when someone does something really embarrassing and you feel uncomfortable for their sake?
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>>65078346

Except it sounds nothing like DsO? DsO riffs aren't like this at all. This is much more closer to something like Aosoth, but even then it's not entirely accurate.
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>>65078134

It's okay.
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>>65078462
>Except it sounds nothing like DsO?
it would if it could
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>>65078479
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>>65078479

The only band to ever actually truly sound like DsO was Devouring Star's 2013 demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCWN2iR-tZc
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>>65078505
yea I remember when you were shilling this copycat too
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>>65077755
>Feat Randy Blythe
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>>65078544
He ruined that one gojira song, his vocals suck so much, they're unbearable
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>>65078529

Copycat or not you'd be stupid to not want more music in the vein of Paracletus or Drought, which the 2013 demo satisfied greatly.

My point is people love to say shit sounds like DsO but they never actually do. People hear a bit of dissonance and suddenly "Oh it sounds like DsO" as if that's the key to actually "sounding like DsO"

Even on Devouring Star's album they drastically changed the sound to something far away from DsO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0A07yJeL3E
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>>65078641
>you'd be stupid to not want more music in the vein of Paracletus or Drought
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What is the most metal approved food?
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>>65078674
hot wings are the metal of cuisine
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>>65077757
I'm all of those except for normie and pleb
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>>65078674
any red meat cooked rare or medium rare
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>>65078674
blood pudding
or liver since its high in iron
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>>65077755
>feat Ihsahn
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>>65078674
Technical bread
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what about atmoshit food? cale? tofu?
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>>65078641
>you'd be stupid to not want more music in the vein of Paracletus or Drought
why?
why would I want to listen to someone's approximation of something they don't understand?
the fact alone that those bands clearly just hop on a wagon after being impressed by DsO is enough for me to not want to listen to them
it's just boring fucking music at the end of it, it has no substance
they don't have the ideology to back it up, it doesn't come from something cerebral, it's just another band playing in a style and this has no reason to exist
if I want copycats I'd rather listen to darkthrone copycats
there is little pretense in that, it's black metal tradition
and funnily enough, the best "darkthrone clones" (I fucking hate this term) often end up having a lot more character than any of those pretentious DsO/BaN imitators that have been popping up
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why do people hate DsO?
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>>65077757
I'd like to see a more serious and bigger chart of this, more like this one
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What the fuck is DsO
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>>65078800
I hate it because it's overrated and at the same time completely mediocre, their best album is paracletus and it's a 5/10
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>>65078761

Why are you caring about things irrelevant to the sound of music?

If a style of music sounds good why would you not want more music in that vein? This makes no sense to me. Just enjoy the music for what it is. Music.
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>>65078810
Diablo swing Orchestra
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>>65078824
So you hate it because other people like it?
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>>65078858
well I hate the fanbase more than the band ofcourse
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>>65078810

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayVS0gnBNc

>>65078858

Welcome to /mu/
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>>65078887
thats pretty gay bro
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>>65078835
This is all right.
>>65078897
This is eh. Pretty generic.
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>>65078134
I want this to be good but it is just okay. I will have to give it a few more listens just on the idea that it may sound better over time which is not completely unlikely with this style of black metal.

>>65078479
>tripfags saying stupid shit in metal general edition

>currently listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm_2YMXs738
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>>65078930
>This is eh. Pretty generic.

You may not know what you are talking about. I would get that checked out.
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>>65078932
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm_2YMXs738
hipster trash
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>>65078932

Yea, it's just a debut EP but this could definitely go places. They are on Avantgarde after all.
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>>65078897
Deathspell goes to shit every single time they start blastbeating
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>>65078930
>Generic
lol ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEmWpbciu9A

Their early stuff was generic though-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M6MPLpoaOM
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>>65079000
Doomfag detected
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>>65079030
nope, when the stuff they play during the blast beats is the most bland noisy dissonant shit ever with no purpose or direction, when they do stop it's usually pretty cool, unfortunately these blastbeats make up atleast 70% of the album, I couldn't give it more than a 4/10
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>>65078641
>you'd be stupid to not want more music in the vein of Paracletus or Drought
Wow yeah god forbid people don't want to hear the ame things you want
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>>65079078
>bland noisy dissonant shit ever with no purpose or direction

lol is this why dumb idiots hate DsO? They can't sit down and actually listen to the music closely?
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>>65079078
ah, a power metal fag
where's the singing am i right?
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>>65079136
are you retarded?
>>65079134
I know it's complex and shit, but it's pointless
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Well /metal/

>>65078211
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>>65079214
epic thread
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>>65078930
>DsO
>generic
M8 that's like objectively incorrect, even if you think they're shite.
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post vaporthrash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es0AZZorPlg
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Welp

RIP
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>>65079168
Post some shit you think is good boi
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>>65079427
Why?
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>>65079427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKdbz5HJAUI
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>>65079427
>>65079482
was not me
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>>65079446
Because you'll judge other's taste all day but give no suggestions yourself.
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>>65079000

All Metal goes to shit every single time it starts blastbeating and/or galloping.
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>>65079528
No
>>65079517
I recced some stuff in this thread if that's what you mean
>>65076599
was me
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>>65079528
all metal goes to shit every time someone touches a guitar string
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rip
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Rust in Peace
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>>65077757

What a complete hodgepodge of a chart. Not even meme-worthy. Just bands haphazardly chucked into random categories with no rhyme or reason.
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>>65079546
You are afraid to post stuff you like lol
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>>65079637
I already did
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>>65079494
was him
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wait, did Malign actually release something last year or is it some reissue or something like that?
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>>65079646
Which posts?
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>>65079668
>>65076599
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>>65079625
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Is Painted Wives metal?
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>>65076759
what the fuck is even that intro
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>tfw Vildhjarta are the only nu-djent band that actually sounds like Meshuggah
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>>65079735
so they sound like shit
ok
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>>65079735
THALL WHEN?
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>>65079776
"thall" is a really cancerous meme and I Like vildhjarta
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>>65076570

"Technical" Black Metal usually consists of the same quantity of pointless BZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZzzzzz except it's randomly interrupted by grabastic bells and whistles here and there - so it's arguably even more boring and pointless than traditional Black Metal.

This is part of the larger problem of Metalheads being autistic fucks with no sense of melody or motivic cohesion.
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>>65077755
>feat
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>>65079802
It's like djent verzion of bazinga

Random bullshit that makes no sense and reddit children keep spouting
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>>65079835
that dog knows whats up, what a fuckinc cuck
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Wow this general really has gone to shit if I'm siding with FIFH in an argument
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>>65079805
Have you ever listened to black metal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbyhDLLY2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78Teqr2T6E
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>>65079805
ditto for tech deth

Also
>listen to a band purported as "melodic" dm or bm
>it's actually just more diatonic and tends towards consonance, rather than having more focus on melodic development than regular dm/bm
Finding good shit like AtG is such a chore why do I bother
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>>65079879
djent it self is already the metal version of bazinga: meaningless and unamusing.
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>>65079927
Dissection is melodeath
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>>65079937
so with the tag "Melodic" You expected dissonant?
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>>65079950
lol nice meme
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What is everyone listening to right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsmlKk5CE3I

Also new Inquisition song is killer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdbsGFrvbY
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>>65079968
melody and dissonance are not mutually exclusive you retarded piece of shit
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>>65079988
>Also new Inquisition song is killer.
It's really shit though
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>>65080008
you're buttmad as fuck, like 99% of melodic music tends toward consonance, why were you surprised that melodic metal did it too?
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>>65080071
>you're buttmad as fuck, like 99% of melodic music tends toward consonance
Wrong.
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>>65080027
k.
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Tell me /metal/, is there a more perfect album?
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>>65079735
they sound like meshuggah if meshuggah thought it was a good idea to stick pointless gay post-rock and other atmoshit ambience in their music where it doesn't belong.

can't believe i fell for the "vildhjarta is good" meme
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>>65080156
yes
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>>65080156
>less famous slipknot
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>>65080156
nice meme
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>>65080156
Hektor - Vaginal Reflux
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>>65079968
How the heck did you garner that from my post friendo?
Metalheads define "melodic" as anything that features diatonic melody/harmony, typically resulting in songwriting that more closely resembles traditional heavy metal (and thereby standard rock music) than it does extreme metal. Basically the Iron Maiden With Harsh Vocals cliche of metal songwriting.

When I look for good melodic dm/bm I'm trying to find something that does feature more than the usual amount of consonance, but departs completely from conventional rock phrasing. For instance, I really don't want to hear another riff with a i VI chord progression in Aeolian mode. Most of the time I give up after checking out a dozen bands and just spin Sacramentum again.
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>>65079988
>that "anu anu anu" at the end
PFFFFAHAHAHAH
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>>65079988
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>>65078973
Please commit suicide
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>>65080215
why are you gay?
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>>65079988
>that "CHEEKI BREEKI" at the starta tat vebu GOOK GOOK GOOK GOOK GOOK
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>>65080234
It is Inquisition, the vocals are always going to be comedic gold.
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>>65078974
BOOM SHAKALA KYS BOOM ABU SHAKALA KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS BOOM SHAKALA ABUBU
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>>65080260
This is good.
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>>65080352

>GOOK GOOK GOOK

What about BOOK BOOK BOOK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEDz_Y_6MaE

>2:28

These are adults demanding to be taken seriously.
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>>65080483
"No"
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What are some bands that peaked on their demos?
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>>65080545

All of them!

>blast tips fedora
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>>65080572
Nah, SBG is a bit better than the demos which preceded it bud.
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>>65080572
>blast tips fedora
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>>65080545
timeghoul
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>>65080545
Mayhem
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>>65080545
meshuggah
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>>65079988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJVBtaiN6M
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ayy how's everyone doing today lads
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>>65080545
Arghoslent, Absurd.
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>>65079988
About what I expected. Dez is still a terrible lyricist, but I like his voice. The title track has a neat riff and I liked Daybreak and This Deception, but beyond that it's just another Devildriver album. Much better than Winter Kills and Beast, though.
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>>65080829
Was doing pretty good before I heard Nick Menza died
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>>65080545
cynic
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>>65080885

>that album cover

/r/ForwardsFromGrandma-tier.
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>>65079988
Arghoslent
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>>65080885
I thought it was brety gud not gonna lie
It definitely has the distinct Devildriver sound but they added some neat shit too
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>>65080919

F
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>>65079988
L'VIA
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great vocals, weak ass guitar tone, I'd rather take crystal clean production over this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAZnHJ9-0EA
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I thought war metal was some kind of a meme before I started vising this thread, it looks like it's an actual genre
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>>65081292
It's still a meme tho
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post top tier tech death
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>>65081341
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>>65081341
You first
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>>65081341

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2HZQ70hpbU
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>>65081395
>doesn't share something he thinks is better

opinion discarded
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>>65081341
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>>65081481
>insert pasta here
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>>65076570

https://youtu.be/RJrBPEXJEOY?t=55


rest of the video is shit but that is pretty accurate
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>>65081481
I used to think that was a slam album

The guy who designed that cover did a lot of slam covers
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Why

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Eximperituserqethhzebib%C5%A1iptugakkath%C5%A1ulweliarzaxu%C5%82um/Prajecyruju%C4%8Dy_sinhuliarnaje_wypramie%C5%84wa%C5%84nie_Daktryny_Absaliutnaha_j_Usiopah%C5%82yna%C4%BAnaha_Z%C5%82a_skro%C5%BA_%C5%A1a%C5%9Bcihrannuju_pryzmu_S%C3%AEn-Ahh%C4%AB-Er%C4%ABba_na_hipierpawierchniu_zadyjaka%C4%BAnaha_ka%C5%AD%C4%8D%C4%99ha_zasnawa%C4%BAnika%C5%AD.../570638
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rec me stoner metal pls
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>>65081545
LE WACKY FACES XDDDDDDD
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>>65081615
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>>65081610
Can anyone name a band more tryhard than this?
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>>65081341

based band but I never see people shilling them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEU4Dffmak
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>>65081632
Bongripper is overrated hipster-tier doom.
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>>65081625

i did say the rest was shit
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>>65081615
this is the logical conclusion to the genre
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>>65081615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Nuun_P1ZQ

Actual non-memetic song.
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>>65081693
more like the logical conclusion to drone doom. 1 chord, lads.

enjoyed this album more than i probably should tb.h
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>>65081637

holy shit is this TDM that doesnt sound like blip blops?
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>>65081615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jct3HKRYU2A
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>>65080545
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>>65080936
It's definitely their best album in a while. The drums have more of a punch (I think it's the snare) but the trade-off is that I don't think their new drummer is as talented as Boecklin.
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What's some bands like this
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>>65081757
>a 40 year old man wrote this
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>>65081341
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So this thread basically confirms that people who say DsO is shit have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
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>>65081766
It's definitely the snare. It has a really great tone.
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>>65081750

that album and the one after are GOAT techdeath and the earlier ones are better than 99% of melodeath, just quality
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>>65081802
the artwork reminds me of super mario galaxy for some reason
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>>65081834
fuck off already
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>>65081945
>he mad that I'm right
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>>65081615
High on Fire
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>>65081834
DsO's earlier shit is pretty legit. Don't understand the hate for being "unoriginal"
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>>65081610
what kind of metal is it? looks like a deathcore album cover
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>>65082081
tech death
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>>65081728
i think it was an unintentional btfo of the genre of stoner rock though. this is what you should be listening to when getting high, not cheesy ass classic rock bands playing in c standard with a lack of personal hygiene throughout
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>>65081750
are you completely new to the genre? anata is still pretty wanky compared to other tech-death bands
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>>65081610
>putting Bal-Sagoth and Nile to shame
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>>65078169
>LOL
>>Bass
>>Black Metal
>GG senpai

LOL
>Gnaw Their Tongues
GG fampai
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Is there a better band name?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RK5d9rR7E
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Vektor
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>>65082231
CHI
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This is the longest metal band name I think
"Intracerebrally Consuming Cephalalgia Through the Cranium Macerating Debrisfucked Manure Ingested Remains of the Mindfucked Cataplexic Wicked Mankind Whom Fistfucked the Progenies from the Deepest Depths of the Analmaggot Raped Human Pieces of Erotic Shitmasses Which Gave Birth to Worthless Eunuchs as Travesty for Cumstained Whorefaced Sluts Enslaved by This Stupid Society Full of Fetal Garbages."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8L4luIFyCM
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Does industrial metal count?
Coptic Rain is my favourite. I really like Eleven Eleven, it has my favourite tracks, Sane and Unseen Untold. It makes me really sad that they don't make music anymore. I don't know any artists that have a similar sound or that make me feel the same way. Die Krupps and Pitchshifter are recommended by lastfm but they just don't sound the same.
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>>65082311
Yeah this one comes to mind
But I always forget it and can't find it when I need it
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