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jumpdafuckup edition
>>65045097
Crossfaith is unironically the best band for JUMPDAFUCKUP
what's the muscial equivalent to the souls series?
I can't wait for NBBMN, these threads are fucking shit and I've come to realize that the black and death metal posters are literally the only halfway decent /metal/ posters.
Why is NBBMN always so active while any attempts at setting up a black metal general fail?
>>65054482
i get doom metal vibes from it
>>65054483
you couldn't be more wrong during nbbmn we had great threads, things started going to shit in december
>>65054533
4chan started going to shit in December.
>>65054533
funny, that's not how I remember it. Sure, /nbbmn/ started to get bored after two and a half weeks, but every time I visited /metal/ during that time it was full-on turbo shitpost.
new ERRA is comfy as fuck
Anyone's going?
>>65054587
fuck off dmsharecuck
has anyone else listened to this? thoughts?
>>65054533
These threads were even more abysmal than usual during last November, actually. All actual discussion migrated to NBBMN, the main /metal/ was nothing but memes and shitposting.
DUDE CTHULHU LMAO
>>65054597
>tfw someone thinks you're a tripfag
metal for this feel?
>>65054614
that's not true though, the shitposting was largely ignored and we had good discussions about metal of all kinds including black metal
>>65054647
I guess we somehow kept seeing different threads then.
>>65054644
sumeriancore
>>65054628
you called?
my 4chanx shit is blinking for some reason. Metal for this feel?
>>65054482
>>65054505
souls is too fast paced for straight doom but the funeral doom/death doom aesthetic is really good
maybe some more midpaced death doom along the lines of autopsy. growled vocals are a must (half the skellies sound like DM vocals anyways), mostly midtempo slightly downtuned riffs with occasional higher guitar melodies fit the combat i think
Post 10/10 metal clothes you would wear
>>65054699
RIP, thread.
>>65054695
>dark souls
>fast paced
>>65054699
well that doesn't seem very tolerant
>>65054699
I actually own this.
>>65054699
That shirt is so retarded and reeks of buttblast it's unbelievable, also municipal waste is a terrible fucking band
>>65054729
>white shirt
that's honestly the most disgusting thing about it
>>65054729
And this too
>>65054725
who's a bigger trendhopper, cavalera or flynn?
>>65054614
This is true. We were all talking and enjoying black metal while everyone here was shitposting Slipknot lyrics.
>>65054740
Actually white shirts are the most /metal/ you may get. Most of metal shirts which were available during 80s were white.
>>65054769
>everyone
fuck off tripfag it was 1-2 faggots samefagging
/metal/ was really great during /nbbmn/
I made vaporblack out of Varg's youtube tutorials
http://www103.zippyshare.com/v/yYpLUXFd/file.html
Did I do good?
>>65054769
you're retarded, just check the fucking archive you dumb faggot
>>65054721
not fast paced exactly but there's a sense of urgency that comes along with the extremely tight timing thats required for the combat.
even though its not actually fast paced it feels fast paced in the moment if that makes any sense
>>65054831
nice cherrypicking
>>65054831
I get triggered more and more everytime this picture is used, this was literally the first thread after nbbmn started, and there were still atleast half of the blackfags in the thread
thoughts on this?
>>65054862
>first thread after /nbbmn/ started and /metal/ immediately goes to shit
>>65054755
I'd probably say Flynn was the bigger trend-hopper as he was really blatant with his style changes in regards to popularity, you could argue Max was naturally progressing towards to the "tribal" nu shit due to his interest in spirituality and marriage to Gloria, and right now, judging from his last few albums, he's stopped giving a shit to whatever is trendy these days.
I have more respect for Flynn as a performer however, just cause he's aged a lot more gracefully than Cavalera, still plays the guitar well and his band are still a force to be reckoned with when playing live.
Cavalera sadly looks really unwell and hasn't played guitar properly on stage for about 10 or so years now.
>>65054878
Good record. Sad to see them go.
I kinda want this shirt cause I think its funny. I don't even drink or anything.
>>65054891
It was shit before that you fucking idiot, and with the giant meme that nbbmn is itself, it had a shitposting storm
>>65054850
that was just one day. You really could have made at least 20 of those throughout the month.
>>65054833
this is just blackened drone metal with a heavy dose of digital noise
>>65054906
Kill yourself mongoloid
Let's discuss tragic missteps.
Remember when technical prog/death band Sadist made a misguided leap into nu-metal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwCdLKJLQ1Q
>"Listen if you like the sick image of Coal Chamber or Slipknot."
when are you guys going to suck it up and realise that shitposting and memes are just a part of 4chan. always have been and always will be. if you're looking for musical discussion on a site like this it's not going to happen.
>>65054930
the digital noise is accidental, anything high-qulity results in glitches once uploaded somehow.
>drone
is it because I used one of SUNN's favorite chord progressions?
>>65054965
>Let's discuss tragic missteps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI2dxU6yUI0
>>65054985
nah i mean noise as in the genre
the "wabwabwab" in the background of the first heavy part. unless that was analog in which case that's sick, how did you do it?
>>65054897
fair enough
I would bet money that the next machine head album will have djent influences
>>65054986
Lol yeah this was a serious what the fuck moment in their career but I sorta like this song don't hurt me
The syncopation in 1:32 is rly good
>>65055061
I'd quite like to see that, I think they already had a djenty (well, low-low-tuned) song on the last album
>>65054965
>first there is weebgrind and weebslam
>now there is atmoeshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IM8O54Rj0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWQxi8NSO4
>>65055036
Nah it's just mp3 compression.
Should I add some samples to make it more a e s t h e t i c?
Cause I'm drawing inspo from some old spooky OVAs and if it's not evocative of that atmosphere it's a bummer.
>>65054985
>>65055036
wait is this just various burzum songs slowed down a ton? in that case the wabwabwab might just be varg tremolo picking a low note
still sounds like blackened drone
>>65054982
Nah, there's plenty of musical discussion. There just happens to be plenty of shitposting and memes, too. "Lol it's 4chins, bro" doesn't really excuse it. You're still a shitposter.
>>65055153
No, I just sampled single notes from one of his acoustic tutorials, looped or stretched them depending on the riffs and added beats and effects.
>>65055150
>>65055153
ok i get it now
definitely add samples of varg talking about norse mythology or some shit over the quieter parts
and slow down his voice by like 10-20% so its weird but totally understandable
or you could go full Burial and try to actually make a melody out of the samples idk
>>65055210
I tried making a riff in the last segment. Not too sure about it.
I'll definitely add some voice samples, thanks for the advice.
original or remastered version?
>>65055237
i meant a melody out of the vocal samples
have you ever listened to Untrue? i know its le /mu/core meme but its pretty good and there are some really interesting things that he does with autotuning vocal samples to make a melody over drony synths.
that's more what i was thinking
>>65055269
>trying to have a serious metalcore discussion in /metal/
you new here?
>>65055304
That sounds interesting, I'll check it out.
>Tfw you'll never live in the early 80's to early 90's, traveling all over the globe to see the very best thrash, heavy, power, black, and death metal acts live while they were at their prime
Metal for this feel?
>>65055337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntu-poC2FOI
>>65055352
i really want to hit this man
>>65055373
His solos are too dank for me to hate him
what's the best titanium of all time?
>>65055373
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is probably what most of /metal/ looks like.
What even are these riffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bcuBPyByuc
post annoying shit that metal bands do
>techdeath album longer than 40 minutes
>symphonic black metal
>>65055507
What's wrong with symphonic black metal?
>>65055507
tin can snare
>>65055507
>atmoblack
>postblack
>grind album longer than 20 mins
>>65055507
>digital production
>>65055543
pleb
>>65055395
they're pretty wonderfully wanky
>>65055523
very rarely is it done well, most of the time it sounds garish and corny as fuck
>>65055507
Shitty production
>>65054482
Oranssi Pazuzu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4brqp2Y0Fc
>>65055487
they all look like David Bowie's evil twin
>>65055569
Eat a dick fag
>>65055507
>giving the metal horns at any oppurtunity they get
>>65055487
>1989
>those hairstyles
>that intro riff
what the fuck
80s japan was dank as fuck
>>65055544
>grind songs longer than a minute
>>65055569
how does it feel to be the most annoying trip even compared to cuckshareguy
>>65055601
false fuck off
>>65055601
actually kill yourself, dumb frogposter
>>65055507
tin can kick drum
>>65055543
tin can snare is great though fuck off
>>65055543
stfu
>>65055625
>>65055627
so you're saying you don't find it insufferable?
>>65055610
>forgetting that the best grind song ever is 3 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Db6LBlrZmM
>>65055487
>star spangled banner lick in the outro solo
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>65055569
Ah yes I see you're a true connoisseur like me, such primitive vulgarity in metal is so obsolete and antiquated, I can only enjoy my metal clean, refined, and elegant.
>>65055601
instead of doing metal horns at shows me and my friends have been doing the hang loose hand thingy.
>>65055608
if this is new to you you must be new here lad
riffy thrash/power groups from japan in the 80s and 90s with weird costumes get circlejerked here a lot for no reason
have some after image
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GhzQffMz7g
>those ultra kvlt obscure tech-thrash demos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJUW-D8nTE
>>65055727
nah i just never bothered to check that shit out for some reason
>>65055727
they should have gotten famous
>>65055667
I'm saying I'd rather have a neckbeard shove his horns under my nose for the whole duration of the concert than seeing that shitty memefrog even once more.
>>65055761
>metal released after 1993
>>65055822
>memes after chink's inauguration
>>65055786
>they should have gotten famous
the only one that got truly famous outside of japan was X Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmLamvzHhM
but most j-power bands were already pretty big in gookland, even though they're incredibly tiny and unknown in the west.
>>65055822
you're missing out dad
post blazing infernal thrash right now
>>65055703
I bring this up a lot, but there's a difference between shitty production, and good production.
Good production fits the music, and you can tell effort was put into it to achieve the clearly desired sound.
Great example of "good" production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnqD7jUAW90
It isn't for everyone, but you can clearly tell it is well produced and a lot of effort was made to have it sound the way it does.
Contrast this with a number of your obscure 80s and 90s metal demos that just sound bad due to poor technology.
On the other side, super sterile clean production is often absolutely shit. It may well be "good" production, and fit the music etc, but it doesn't change that it really strangles the music.
>>65055870
>the only one that got truly famous outside of japan was X Japan
Loudness sold more albums in the US during the 80s than X Japan did.
>>65055870
yeah I know, but I was talking about afterimage, it seems like they had everything to make it big too, AION was a little more kvlt
>>65055919
yeah, too bad the music is shit and no matter how good the production is it won't make up for that garbage
>>65055919
Thoughts on Bone Awl's production?
>>65054684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBczswMpelY
post good production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ZMQoRHkas
JUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJUg89vugw
>>65055923
loudness was pumping out albums since the early 80s though whereas x japan only started being recognized in the west in 89.
aion's ironically the second biggest power metal band to come out of 80s japan, though their popularity is a lot more contained to japan, not the west.
loudness was also just a glam metal band, and their popularity took a nosedive when glam died. x japan's still going large, their albums are considered classics and sold more albums in general.
>>65055938
after image broke up and formed amadeus that's pretty big, but they're goth rock, not metal.
>>65055991
St. Anger really does have good, fitting production though.
The "le garbage can drums xD" meme is Redditor faggot shit.
>>65056042
>aion's ironically the second biggest power metal band to come out of 80s japan, though their popularity is a lot more contained to japan, not the west.
that was meant to be a response to >>65055938
post best outro riffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCVygZxAeRo 5:06 to the end gives me fucking major shivers every time. something about it man.
>>65055543
I now want to hear metal made with a child's toy drum kit
>>65056108
https://youtu.be/lCeRWaIh5Hw?t=74
>>65056108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh8CfWEnSJ8
>>65056103
50:00-55:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZJiE7OUDQ
>>65055965
I like Bone Awl but their production is quite shitty. Imagine if they had more of a production like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMnG_pT0f4I
Would sound so much better.
>>65056108
I want to punch that ugly man in the face
>>65056187
shut the fuck up you cocksucker
>>65056143
Fucking Finland
>>65055543
There are some albums that pull off that sound rather well
>>65056227
You're one retarded human being
>>65056239
Sure thing, honey
>>65056286
>I'm not a fan of metal but sunbather is pretty good
>I'm not a fan of tin can snare but drudkh is pretty good
![lastdaysofhumanity-putrefactioninprogress-front[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aNgAj5m.jpg "lastdaysofhumanity-putrefactioninprogress-front[1].jpg")
>>65056227
sorry wrong image
>>65056333
>Implying I ever said any of that.
At least most retards can read and write coherently.
>>65056379
It was evident from your post you fucking /mu/drone, kill yourself
>>65056364
lel, granted.
>>65056227
The only Drudkh do right is serve as an alternative to sleeping medication
>>65055487
What is with /metal/'s obssession with visual kei influenced Japanese thrash bands from the 80s
So many weebshits here imo
Fastkill is far superior
>>65055570
man this is pretty good so far
>>65056364
who here actually like this album? I really do
What is this snare though? It's like an alarm going off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOCo-encnA
>>65056404
This >>65056227 was my first post in this thread. Are you on dope, son?
>>65056429
nah, no way
>>65056364
>>65056416
>>65056444
that album is legit 8/10
logical conclusion of goregrind desu
>>65056444 is simply crazy. must be digitally filtered or something, it just doesn't sound like anything real and the two different tones are too perfectly tuned
>>65056429
it's the /a/ crossposters, most of us don't like it
>>65056611
>most of us
literally you alone lmao
>>65054908
Where can one obtain this?
>>65054433
i want to get into black metal some more. the only bands i've really gotten into are Leviathan, Burzum, Mayhem, and Saor. what are some black metal essentials?
Terminal Redux is Savage. Can't get enough.
Looking forward to a new Lich King album as well.
>>65056770
Check out Ildjarn, Volahn, Katharsis and S.V.E.S.T.
>>65056770
emperor is some of the best entry-level black
>>65056788
Now this is advanced shitposting
You can tell by the youtube image with heavy black borders and the
>Looking forward to a new Lich King album as well.
If you're going to shitpost, make sure you put as much thought into it as this guy.
>>65056142
>even when it's a parody, metal music videos are still cringy as fuck
why do they even try? I don't think I've ever seen a non-cringy music video by a modern band.
>>65056872
most music videos in general suck
Which bands do you guys think have a superbly consistent discography but also consists of different enough styles per release?
So more like the difference between Bolt Thrower's first and consecutive albums and Gorguts' discography and less late Opeth or Metallica gimmick shit.
>>65056884
yes, but metal artists are masters at making them be cringe-inducing.
>>65056893
high on fire
>>65056893
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrr
>>65056893
Fates Warning
>>65056770
>>65056893
Manilla Road desu
>>65056429
>>65056464
Cocobat trumps them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ROAlyjILuc
>>65056770
darkthrone's 'unholy trinity' is how i got into black metal properly and i think it's a great entry point (although obviously i know no better). start with a blaze in the northern sky.
>>65056961
kill yourself
>tfw saw Amon Amarth last night and had tons of fun
Why does /meal/ hates them again?
This meme is getting out of hand >>65056996
>>65054433
This might be an odd request, but is there anything that's like black metal, crust punk and grindcore had a fucked up kid?
>>65057046
>tfw saw Amon Amarth last night and had tons of fun
>fun
>>65057046
Just cause it's comical overblown and popular reddit meme metal
Still fun to watch though
>>65057088
They put on a fun show
>>65057046
they'd probably be fun in a live setting, not gonna sit down and listen to their albums though
>>65057094
Which bands would you go see on this lineup, /metal/?
http://clashfinder.com/s/donington2016/ Use this for help
>>65057046
Their albums aren't fun to listen to due to how ubiquitous they all are. That being said, they are easily one of the most fun live acts in all of metal period.
>>65057082
The Secret?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqK2np_-cuk
>>65056770
Peste Noire, start with La Sanie Des Siecles followed by L'Ordure A L'Etat Pur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0
>>65057203
PEARL
>>65057172
Thanks bruh, I forgot about these.
>>65057046
>>65057165
But the first Amon Amarth album and EP are actually fucking amazing, wish they would go back to that style
>>65057127
Rammstein because I'm an edgy faggot
Black Sabbath
Megadeth
NOFX
Pennywise, Anti-Flag because I remember being 14
Iron Maiden, Amon Amarth, Grand Magus, Saxon, Ghost, Gojira, Electric Wizard, and Napalm Death m9
>>65055507
>drum machines
>intros
>outros
>random paintings as album covers that have more depth than the music
>"""intelligent""" song titles
just the most obnoxious things
>mfw power and folk metal aren't considered metal
>>65057344
haven't heard anyone say that
>>65057331
>first track has a 50 second long fade-in intro
fuck Voivod
>>65056770
>>65056055
the repetition is overkill though
>>65057331
>album has two intros
>combined length is nearly 6 minutes
great album but i skip those tracks literally every time unless i need a hearty kek from the engrish
>>65057286
very /metal/ choices
dont forget Havok
>>65055487
damn this does sound cool, definitely some chords removed from the typical 80s metal zeitgeist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhvFLHIlBs
>>65055507
band doesnt put a slow song on a powerviolence album
>>65057331
I remember some first wave black metal band having a fucking 7 minute intro, I forgot the name of it, but it was unbelievable, that long intro and it only leads up to generic punky power chord riffs
Who /glam metal/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIpRdbi9pYw
>>65057368
does anyone here listens to folk metal though
all posted here is black metal
I finally 'get' Tesseract now
Fantastic band. Much better than any other djent imo
>>65055507
interludes with dialogue
djent is supposed to be a progression of progressive metal. But it is just lof fi bass and guitars.
Where is the complex writing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgRLLqYQh1Q
>>65057484
hello
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho5IF2yX5l8
that fucking solo holy shit
>2:28
>>65057509
djent is a trojan horse for metalcore acceptance
do not entry
Who's the trendiest bm band right now, Mgla?
>>65057127
Deftones
Glassjaw
Gojira
Graveyard
>>65057509
I don't think you've ever listened to an actual djent band, I don't even like djent, but bands like periphery, monuments, vildhjarta, contortionist, etc... almost literally every single djent band makes very complex music apart from the ocasional ebin polyrhythms
>>65054699
I love metal but the genre rarely produces clothes that don't make you look like a dick/retard/autist. This shirt (depsite liking the front illustration) is no exception.
Also, as a non American can anyone tell me how likely they think it would be that someone wearing this would get abuse when out in public? Just curious.
>>65057499
haven't been metal since their first album, they're like new-age atmo alt-djent now or something. Also Polaris was pretty disappointing, only 3 or 4 standout tracks
>>65057503
>stoner doom band has an alan watts sample
>>65057492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjN2djw9Bw
>>65057512
Concealing Fates(all parts) is probably the best stuff in the genre
>>65054729
Christ. You'd get your head kicked in wearing that round my way, and you'd deserve it too.
>>65056103
2:00-4:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGyAu71b72c
>>65057539
Vektor.
>>65057509
nah its a progression of deathcore. take the chugs and make them a bit more complex (muh polyrhythms), replace the metalcore riffs with wank, and market it to nerdy kids instead of edgy kids and there's djent
>>65057570
you'd be more likely to get assaulted wearing a pro-trump shirt
>>65057590
fuck this was going to
>>65057499
>>65057596
ebin
>>65057576
Still great though regardless if not metal. I'm revisiting the first album now to be fair. Can't remember what Polaris was like again but will be interesting finding out.
>>65057625
you say that like it's not true
>>65057597
>progression of deathcore
>>65057512
bretty good, fellow glambro
posting more stuff too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHP6U5vQ3mU
>>65057576
i was thinking more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBae6ZZy1SI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJntWWnhtsk
I can't wait for NBBMN. I have a feeling things are going to be better than ever this year.
>>65057499
Good, but best djent band is clearly Monuments
>>65057756
Reminder to report jesseposter any chance you get, literally the only bad thing about this general
>>65057758
word
>>65057756
BM is pretty much all /meal/ posted about anyway
thoughts on pic related? personally i don't think it's that bad tbqh
>>65057758
vildhjarta is much better
>>65057773
What? Why?
>>65057758
hahaha not at all
Lads, I'm starting to get into black metal and I'm looking for whole discographies to download. What black metal groups are consistently good? If you don't know what to send me, I've listened to these bands this far, and like them.
>Mayham
>Burzum
>Bathory
>Dissection (not sure if black metal)
>Blut aus Nord
>Agalloch
>Inquisition
>Mgla
>>65057815
simply epic
>>65057810
fucking kill yourself
>>65057815
No you got it that's the best
>>65057773
thanks but i don't need a reminder
>>65057484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2e_82DxfRs
>>65057758
It's vildhjarta
>>65057810
avatar fagging is against the rules you know
>>65056851
This is why we can't have nice things.
I come here for music discussion and you idiots just shit talk.
Lich King Rules
>>65057758
remember me?
>>65057833
What did I do to get you this butthurt?
What monster has hurt you to cause such crippling autism?
>>65055507
Having an album over 50 minutes long unless you're fuckin' Dream Theater or some shit. All the classic albums were around the 45 - 50 minute mark back in the day. Admittedly this was for practical reasons but it stopped the bloat and filler that a lot of todays metal suffers from.
>>65057815
Deathspell Omega
>>65057805
>y i don't think it's that bad tbqh
It's not bad, it's fucking good.
If you see this post while scrolling, you have been visited by
ROB HALFORD the LEATHERMAN of JUDAS PRIEST
STUDDED BIKER GEAR and TIMELESS RIFFS will come to you, but ONLY if you post "THANK YOU, LEATHERMAN" in this thread
>>65057883
>shitposts on a mongolian funeral home reservation forum every single day of his life for the sake of shitposting
>accuses others of autism
>>65057805
It's really good, different but good. It just suffers from Jon trying his hardest to try to make it different from the earlier stuff to stay trve and nonconformist to avoid making something for the dissection copy pastes he managed to spawn. Tries too hard to be different and just doesn't pull it off well enough.
>>65057833
>>65057834
Only these bands are somewhat good?
That's kind of disappointing, was looking forward for more...
>>65054681
So I'm trying to listen to this album on spotify right now, but the volume and quality of the recording is just balls. It sounds like the sound is traveling through an entire room before it even hits my ear.
idk if spotify or just the general shitness of metal recordings. Will try and find something that doesn't sound like I have my ear up to the auditorium doors.
>>65057927
burzum, aggaloch, mgla are complete fucking garbage, don't fall for the memes, the others you've got are great, check out immortal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFXof5MXYY
>>65057911
>every day of his life
>shitposting
Lol wut neither of those is true
>>65057907
sit well metal man
>>65057881
I'VE BEEN HOLDING BACK THE NIGHT
NOW I'M HOLDING BACK THE DAYYYYY
>tfw no qt Danish shielmaiden gf
>>65057975
>ENDLESS DESIRE WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE >RUINED feat. 周平 / situation report
>>65057927
burzum, aggaloch, mgla are great, don't fall for the memes, the others you've got are shit, check out bosse de nage
>>65057881
Decent stuff, but they have only one album, and it's not better than either of Monuments' two.
>>65057857
>>65057809
Vildhjarta is probably the 2nd best, but let's be honest.
Noone else can combine grooves, sharp riffs and catchiness like Monuments can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2K4O4JmqpE
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME
GOOOOOOOOOOLLLD
