I'll start with the best of the Britpop era (sorry, Radiohead, it beats The Bends pretty squarely in my book)
GOAT pop-punk.
>>64776133
desu yeah
it's a strong 7
It gets so much hate, and yet it's still one of the best pop albums in the best decade for pop music, ever.
>>64776351
This pleases me to no end
>>64776056
Must be a shit book
>>64776279
I love this album
>>64776056
Here in England it's not trendy to hate it. Here on /mu it is and there's a reason; it's utter balls, neither original nor remotely interesting. Modern dad rock (provided your parents were 20/30 in the 90's) with a pseudo-pretentious edge loved by people who think they are different and intellectual when in fact they are just slightly above average
le dad rock
how the fuck is this better than the bends, one good song: slide away
>>64776056
>>64776104
>>64776133
>>64776279
>>64776351
these are all just objectively shit
Arctic Monkeys- What ever people say I am, that's what I'm not
>>64776988
But everything they did after that is fucking shit.
>>64776969
your taste is the only thing that's objectively shit here.
fuck you
>>64777180
>he likes Oasis
>he likes the Offspring
>he likes My Chemical Romance
>he likes post-Gabriel Genesis
wew lad
>>64777286
still bland vanilla 14-year old core
>>64777331
>he doesn't like at least the first two Oasis albums
U wot m8?
>>64777375
Oasis destroyed modern English rock music.
>>64777391
when 5 lads from Manchester can destroy modern English rock music, it really tells everything, doesn't it?
>>64777331
>he doesn't like My Chemical Romance
>>64777443
Yeah. That they were so bland and faceless that they appealed to a generation of dropouts and held everyone dumb enough to listen in a vice grip of bland indie tunes for the next 20 years. This is why the UK is killing it in electronic music.
You are a moron.
>>64777446
rawr XD
>>64777502
underage """patrician""" detected.
you have to be 18 to post here.
>>64777540
>underage meme
>listens to Oasis
>>64777502
>rawr XD
I hope that's sarcasm
>>64777502
>rawr XD
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
>>64777612
>>64777652
holy shit mcr fans are thin-skinned
(yes it was sarcasm)
>>64777502
I don't understand that logic
Even if you don't like Oasis, the 90s had Blur, Radiohead, Pulp..
>>64777502
Bland musically, yes definitely. Faceless, no. They had the face of 'rockstars' fighting, drinking and drugging up. The only reason they were popular was because of that and slagging off other respectable musicians. Don't get me wrong I still hate them and the music
>>64777684
Basically anyone on creation records, bar oasis
>>64777735
>>64777684
Obviously not "absolutely all" English rock music, but if we're talking about the mire of post-Britpop landfill Indie bands that we have today, then correct me if I'm wrong but that is direct consequence of britpop.
>>64777706
>they act funny woo-hoo rocknroll!
>>64777736
>anime image
you are not helping your case
>>64776056
For an album released in 73, it has one of the best productions imho senpai.
It's really a timeless classic. The lyrical themes will still be relevant in the future. Singing is great, great instrumental.
People just hate it because of hipsters
>>64777870
first good answer in the entire thread
>>64776056
>>64777885
Thanks.
I will never get the hate. Sure, many idiots like this album, but that doesn't evaluate the real impact this album had.
For real, it's from 73! Most albums from the 90s and 00s sounded like shit compared to that.
>>64777920
pop-punk masterpiece
>>64777929
really, really good.
>>64777929
Nah, this one just sucked.
Vampire Weekend are seriously the Guns n Roses of modern indie on the "One-album wonder" scale.
>>64777920
STOP BURNING BRIDGES
DRIVE OFF OF THEM
>>64777981
>>64777885
>>64777870
We're talking about music that's just trendy to hate 'on mu' right? Because literally everyone I know IRL loves this album, including people into music and not into music.
>>64778095
Try again
>>64778196
>We're talking about music that's just trendy to hate 'on mu' right?
I think so yeah
>>64778233
no this is just bad
>>64777860
I don't need to help my case, you've already devalued your opinion by ironically shitposting instead of forming a coherent criticism.
>>64778275
yeah, because My Chemical Rawrmance justifies genuine incisive criticism
>>64778340
that's not an argument.
just stop posting, this is embarrassing. you clearly know nothing about them.
>>64776881
How can you be pseudo-pretentious? Does that mean you're just covering for the fact that you're not pretentious really? Or is it something to do with redundant prefixes?
>>64776881
>pseudo-pretentious edge
Really? I always thought the lack of pretension was a good point of Oasis. Maybe the lyrics of something like Champagne Supernova could be seen as pretentious, but even then the result is so dumb that you just have to smile.
>>64778632
far more important: Oasis are many things, but I wouldn't say they are pretentious really
>>64778653
You're right in most of the music but they themselves frequently claimed that they were the best band in the world
>>64778632
Yeah, pseudo-pretentious as in they were hiding the fact that they were so full of themselves in their over the top use of common dialect and crudeness. A sort of hyperlocalism
>>64779148
Damon?
>>64779209
You caught me. I just want my music to be even half as good as this album. Deep down I want to appeal to the masses like them but I'm too middle class. Why couldn't we just have be friends? Buy my next album please. I'm releasing it next month
>>64779390
well, you're friends now at least:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X9GFDVYIWw
it's a better album than it is a meme
>>64776056
Be careful people will call you me.
But I agree
I can't handle a nonlinear album structure. What the crap, this song's all different and shit! I want my albums to have a nice linear structure like those Marvel movies and Ziggy Stardust. Also I hate it because this because he's updating the album, that's breaking the rules of music! I use this criteria to bash TLOP because it makes me sound smart.
>>64776056
Hahaha, what?… Classic rock ripoffs. Seriously, at least Morning Glory had the singles. Definitely maybe was Oasis still warming up.
>>64776104
Because it's shit. Nirvana minus melodies, progressive elements, wildness… basically everything that made it good. Without the production, it's just irrelevant mediocre hardcore punk which was 15 years too late to the scene.
>>64776133
Piece of shit album. That's coming from a guy who likes American Idiot (the album produced by the same guy).
>>64777929
Because people are tired of p4k rating system.
Band is from New York: +3.0
Band fits all "indie" criteria: +3.0
That's how you get p4k core. The tried recipe for force feeding people shitty indie rock from Brooklyn.
>>64776056
It really is trendy to hate on great music like Britpop. Why can't /mu/ appreciate fine melodies such as the ones crafted by bands like Oasis and Blur?
>>64779871
Who hates on revolver?
>>64779816
>Piece of shit album. That's coming from a guy who likes American Idiot (the album produced by the same guy).
Hey there anon, my name actually is Brandon Smith and I live in Plainville, Connecticut, United States of America, and I just wanted to say that you are an absolute cock-inhaling faggot of a human being who should go and shitfuck himself up the dickhole for having such genuinely retarded opinions. It literally seems to me that you may actually legitimately be a mentally handicapped person whose handler has accidentally allowed to access a computer. My recommendation is that you go out to your nearest freeway at your earliest convenience and insert yourself into the traffic such that motorists are forced to either swerve or splatter your being upon the hoods and windshields of their cars, traumatizing all those within them as you do, so that these sorts of inane and stupid shit thoughts that seem to just spew out of your anus of a mouth will never be seen on this board again. Alternatively, go to your resident barbecue and turn the grill on to its highest heat, then place your hands into the flames until they are roasted into unrecognizable stumpy, blackened appendages that will require years of treatment and therapy to heal into scarred lumps which will require a lifetime of medication to relieve the constant and permanent pain from nerve damage, in order to prevent yourself from ever typing such a dumb sentence ever again.
Thanks,
Brandon
>>64777331
Post-Gabriel Genesis is only a small dip in quality. We need to end this meme
>>64779918
>>64779948
Why. Blur was great. What's The Story… was also great, although a bit too pop. Definitely Maybe is another story though, it's obviously an inferior album, not bad but still poor.
>>64779390
yo damon, did you get the laptop back?
>>64776056
>messy production
>all songs follow the same formula
>nothing remotely original about it
Nah The Bends is better than DM and it's not even britpop. In fact, DM abd WTSMG get way too much praise. Pulp and Suede were the objectively superior britpop bands.
>>64777736
what the fuck is a moot
>>64779581
If you think this album is groundbreaking in any of those ways then you're a fucking plene. I like it but it's pretty much his first two albums with an updated aesthetic
What does GOAT mean i see it all the time round here
>>64776056
>>64780295
This. Easily top 3 modern djent albums.
>>64780197
are you joking
>>64780060
At least 2 of your opinions are correct.
>>64780336
sorry I don't follow self important attention starved /mu/ tripfags
>>64780405
>>64780472
>>64780197
It's a meme to pretend to forget moot because he left this place to work for Google Plus.
>>64779942
THE
>>64778095
Contra was their peak. I'll accept your statement of you were in fact referring to that record.
>>64780405
Moot created this website at age 15.
>>64779148
Ah, right, I thought you meant they claimed to be arty/clever/sophisticated. I guess it makes sense that claiming to be the greatest when you're clearly not is a form of pretension too.
>>64776279
It's a fine album, but not their best pop effort.
Is it trendy to hate on AFD?
Either way, you won't find a better straight up rock album.
>>64780675
plagiarized*
>>64780866
*localized
>>64780833
The Strokes - Is This It
that was easy
>>64780833
What? Who hates on it? It's even in p4k's list of top 100 albums of the '80s. It's so fucking good that at first I simply didn't believe it: there was no way hair metal band could be this talented.
I guess it's the "ew dadrock/ ew cockrock" meme popular with nu-males and tumblrsexuals that is to blame.
best metal album ever
>>64781016
>there was no way hair metal band could be this talented.
that's because they weren't hair metal
>>64781005
indie rock is boring shit
>>64781187
Ah right. What elements classifies "Indie Rock" exactly?
>>64781224
it is hipster shit
>>64781128
Well I agree, but I mean their image. G'N'R were actually more hard rock than anything. No tapping solos, no neo-classical wankery, no who-plays-faster bullshit. Just straight rock goodness with double guitars. At least that's how it was on AFD until they fell into writing ballads. That's when I lost my interest.
>>64781277
>At least that's how it was on AFD until they fell into writing ballads. That's when I lost my interest.
That was all Axl. The rest of the guys just wanted to play blues rock, while Axl wanted the band to be Queen Mk.II
I'm glad he did though, because the Illusions albums have a lot of songs i love. I didn't need another AFD, it was already the perfect album, no need to make it again and become like AC/DC.
>>64781255
Grow up dude.
>>64781224
Indie is just a less interesting version of Grunge which dominated the rock scene in the early-mid 2000s. Bands like Kasabian, Libertines, Kaiser Chiefs etc.
>>64781005
It's actually ok. It lacks good single material, it's still the sound of band in development, but it's good for what it is.
The problem is, it was WAY too overhyped by NME and p4k. It was heavily forced to be an "iconic" rock album of the 2000s. But The Strokes were just dull as fuck. All that 2000s NME-core aged horribly.
>>64779723
Good album, not their best.
>>64780646
Contra might be objectively stronger, but their debut will always give me the nostalgic feels because of where I was personally and mentally when it came out.
It's like comparing In Rainbows to Kid A
>>64781029
it's not even the best metallica album
>>64782050
Ride the Lightning or ...And Justice For All?
For me, it's like trying to decide whether I'd rather fuck Tegan or Sara
>>64781029
Ride the Lightning > Master of Puppets
>>64782199
And the title track is the best song on the album on the strength of the bridge, that fucking bridge alone...
Relatively unpopular opinion
>Oasis' first two albums are better than Radiohead's first two (Pablo Honey and The Bends)
>However every individual album put out by Radiohead from OK Computer onwards is better than all Oasis albums put together
Not saying The Bends is bad though, 7/10
>>64782437
I am in 100% agreeance with you, but then again, I'm OP
>>64782199
>>64782186
Kill Em All > any other Metallica
>>64781998
I have nothing to do with you so don't throw that shit into the mix when discussing records with strangers.
>>64781554
Yo, take the record for what it is. Don't throw the hype cycle into it. Also, it had Someday and Last Night. How's that for single power?
>>64781544
>em sickadat indeh music, d'yunowhatuhmeen?
>>64780833
numales will be triggered
>>64782437
The Bends is the tied for best Radiohead album though
>>64781247
why would anyone hate on cardiacs?
>>64782437
I'm an Oasis fan and no Radiohead expert, but you're probably right. Later Oasis albums had 3-4 killer songs and the rest was pretty mediocre. Some later b-sides are great though.
However, DM, WTSMG and The Masterplan are 10/10 for me.
>>64776133
objectively good album
>>64779816
>Piece of shit album. That's coming from a guy who likes American Idiot (the album produced by the same guy).
That's because you like american idiot which is absolutely pure trash by even the lowest of standards
>>64783645
hey, not the same anon
American Idiot has 3-4 GOAT pop songs!
>>64782780
The circus music meme.
>>64783499
Im 100% sure this only gets hate because it blew up among Coachella and tumblr/instagram normies. Its full of interesting sounds and fantastic songwriting. Really catchy and consistent.
>>64776056
>>64785661
There's definitely something to that. But I still think they really lack taste/ are general cheeseballs who secretly just want to "jam bro".
Alt-J are one of those signifier bands. If you meet a girl and she likes several decent artists but then throws in either Alt-J, Mumford & Sons, the Lumineers etc, it's time to run because she's an idiot trying to be cool.
seriously best pop punk album
>>64776988
This
>>64777020
Their other albums aren't as good but still have some great tracks
Brianstorm
Teddy Picker
Crying Lightning
Don't Sit Down Cos I've Moved Your Chair
R U Mine
Knee Socks
>>64786862
It's good but it's not as good as this
I still remember buying this album in Tescos. It would spend a lot of time in my CD player for the next like 5 years on and off
>>64779480
this
>>64787031
holy shit you better be being ironic. That album is literally worse than fucking neighborhoods somehow. Also this is the best album they've made.
>>64787031
>>64786862
Don't even fucking try, these albums were so cringe-worthy.
For example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4G9sidyG9E
>>64787081
They aren't good, but this along with Dude Ranch are their best
>>64776881
you literally just described blur
>>64787081
You've literally just insulted my entire childhood, I listened to TOYPAJ so much it's insane
>>64787228
>that song
Fucking awesome. Although I will admit the first of the album is stronger than the second half
But yeah whole album was great. I was 10 years old at the time so I absolutely loved it
>>64787270
Nah, if you had said Enema of the State you might have a case but nah
>>64779680
people hate on bankrupt!?
why
>>64779480
and that says a lot because it's a great meme
>>64779816
>at least Morning Glory had the singles
Supersonic is a good song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Or8QahwlC4
>>64789020
Live Forever is a great song
Cigarettes & Alcohol is a great (T-Rex) song
Rock'n'Roll Star may be the greatest opener on a debut album ever
>>64776104
>>64779581
So-so
>>64776133
>>64777870
>>64777920
>>64779480
>>64781029
Actually pretty good
>>64777929
>>64778233
>>64786862
>>64787031
Genuinely shit
>>64786646
It's been 4 years and Settle still gets better with every listen. It's easily the equal of any of the great iconic pop-dance LP's from the 90's like
>Dig Your Own Hole
>You've Come A Long Way, Baby
>Homework
>Rooty
or
>Play
And I'd almost put Settle on a tier above even those albums.
White Noise and Voices are fucking phenomenal tracks. Those K-hole outros, man...
>>64779816
>at least Morning Glory had the singles
>He's too young to remember just how fucking big of a deal Live Forever was when it came out.
>he's too young to realize that it alone was one of the biggest, most influential singles of the 90s, the British equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit.
The gargantuan transformative effect that Live Forever alone had on the course of alternative music in the UK is why critics in the mid 90's were able to so frequently compare the Gallagher's to John and Paul with completely straight faces.
I'm inclined to agree with them. 22 years later, it still gets better with each listen.
Sorry
But I really like this album
>>64791415
I do too, anon
>>64789226
Cigs and Alcohol is better than any TRex song.
Supersonic.
Slide Away is amazing.
Seeing Oasis on totp in 1994 with 20 year old Liam in adidas trackies right off the council estate, singing, not miming Live Forever was punk.
Oasis are a true punk band.
You get it or you don't.
I love Pulp and Suede, but Oasis are the best band of the 90's after Nirvana.
>>64782437
Honestly I was dissapointed when Radiohead came out with kid A. I was 15, seeing them do National Anthem and Idioteque on SNL is one of the worst moments of my muscial youth.
They're not that bad now, but critics dont know shit.
I wanted more Jonny Greenwood Paranoid Android guitar..instead "what the fuck is this techno shit??? what is he playing? don't worry this is the experimental track..the rest of the album won't be like this."
Get kid A ...oh fuck it's all like this!! I saw them on tour that summer though and it was one of the best concerts I've been to.
>>64780833
>Either way, you won't find a better straight up rock album.
you won't find a bigger rockist than me on /mu/
AFD is not even close to the best rock album
>>64791480
me three
