I just don't understand how people enjoy rap/hip hop music. I've tried to listen to it, and I just can't get into it whatsoever.
Anytime I hear a rap/hip hop song all I can think of while listening to it is "you know what would improve this song? singing"
Why do people like rap? I just get the feeling that it's for less talented people to make their voice heard in some way.
I'm using an anime image because all the pictures I have are anime girls because I don't post on this board.
heh
I think you haven't listened to good rap / hip hop yet
Also I don't understand how can people enjoy metal music
>what is ctrl + f
>what is the catalog
>what is lurking before posting
>>64754505
try looking at the vocals like a different kind of poetry, which they are, in a way.
I don't understand why someone would exclusively have photos of anime girls on their computer.
some rap is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk
>>64754552
metal is a lot more interesting than rap though
>>64754590
those are some hot opinions but I'll have to disagree with them
Plenty of times rap, spoken word, yelling, or grunting can be a better form of expression than singing. What is it about rap that you don't like? The lack of melody? The attitude? The rhythms?
>>64754653
this guy
Threads like this where OP is a lazy fuck who can't just look through the catalog for the exact same question he is asking should be immediately deleted.
>>64754683
Why would I look through the catalogue on a board I don't post on?
>>64754608
ok but rap really isn't nearly as varied of a genre and there is far more experimental and avant-garde metal than rap.
i think most people who don't limit themselves to one genre and have been on this board for longer than 3 months will prefer metal
>>64754670
i meant metal would be preferred. there's far more interesting metal being released weekly than the majority of rap I've heard. i'm not even a metalhead either
>>64754505
I just don't understand how people enjoy anime. I've tried to watch them, and I just can't get into them whatsoever.
Anytime I see an anime all I can think of while watching it is "you know what would improve this? real people "
Why do people like anime? I just get the feeling that it's for dumb weeaboos to fap over.
I'm using an album image because all the pictures I have are albums because I don't post on this board.
>>64754552
Metal is way more varied than hip hop, though.
Hip hop fans always play up the variety of hip hop. I feel like there was a lot more in the past, but now it all rides the same sort of wave.
>>64754694
kys
>>64754505
Can you stop pretending all hip hop is rap.
Thanks.
>>64754705
nice
>>64754730
ahahaha keep trying
>>64754505
lurk more or go back to /a/
>>64754705
this
>>64754590
>le conscious rap is so le cool xd
>metal is way more interesting than most rap, or should i say (c)rap am i rite hahaha
Oh boy I hope this is bait.
>>64754882
Typical hip hop fan with no argument
>>64754565
This guy gets it
What kind of rap have you been exposed to? If all you've ever listened to is like top 40 pop garbage, you're really not getting a good representation of the genre
>tfw you ride the hardcore-exclusive rap wave and actually become repulsed by singing after years of shaping this identity
>>64754929
public enemy are great, not because of their political message, but because they had fantastic production on their side
and anyway I never said I hate rap, but metal is one genre that consistently produces great albums, regardless of what hiphophop kids who found out about /mu/ from r/4chan think
>>64755098
>r/4chan
kek this is real?
god
>>64754505
>I'm using an anime image because all the pictures I have are anime girls because I don't post on this board.
The icing on the cake honestly
>>6475496
You're sort of right, I could imagine how someone who doesn't actively follow rap could get the impression that it's all "Drake/Future/Fetty Wap/Young Thug/Travis Scott rap/R&B/trap" stuff. But, there really is a lot of experimentation going on in rap music still, it just isn't in the popular forms. Just look at Death Grips, they are consistently putting out crazy, genre-expanding music that is always fresh and actually really good, but you'll never hear that shit on the radio.
>>64755115
that's exactly how /mu/ got infested with bland ass rap and half the idiots who browse here
i fucking miss the days where metal wasn't confined to the general and elitism was rampant to stop idiots like you from disregarding other people's posts with a stupid /b/ reaction image
>>64754505
You'd think she'd be happier to have her head up a girls skirt.
>>64755157
Blame Witchy and Climaxia for that, not r3ddit.
Hip hop fans are so easily baited
>>64755157
I browse /mu/ since 2009 and I preferred rap back then just like I prefer it now
There never was this kind of "metal elitism "you're talking about. General elitism yes, but not of any genre in particular.
>>64755206
>I was cucked into the rap is good meme so this must be bait
>>64755157
4chans was always shit, there are plenty of other better places to visit in the digital world. Internet is a lot bigger than plebbittumblrchan.
>>64755245
>implying I think rap is good
>>64754505
how about you go back to your weeb infested shithole
for a board so determined about not letting any recommendation threads pass through, you sure are being hypocritical.
you could listen to acclaimed hip-hop albums
if you don't like it, well, you don't
>>64755157
kek
metalheads are in no way in the position to be elitists
btw, I think hip hop and metal are equally plen
>>64755270
>there are plenty of other better places to visit in the digital world
name some
Rap got a lot of Jewish funding because the majority of rappers were shown an up-front cash payment. They pushed the format into the mainstream with extreme prejudice, harming the industry as a whole. It was a fantastic business decision, but the quality has spiraled out of control.
The reason a lot of people like it is for its shock value and simplistic musical elements, allowing the majority of the population (inherently unmusical) to relate to what is given to them inside of the rap "package".
Nevertheless there were innovators who actually put thought into the process and the product - examples such as A Tribe Called Quest and Pharcyde amongst others.
>>64755419
No thanks.
>>64755270
>>64755419
very interested as well. been looking for the late 2000s 4chan but in 2016
>>64755157
Feelio when I still remember 2005 4chan. What used to be thought of as tantamount to shitposting was gold in comparison
>>64754505
I used to be like you OP. but then I got really into Drake. He's the jack of all trades in a way, and he can really show you why rap is a legitimate genre all on its own.
>>64755419
>>64755511
There really is only a small selection of anonymous, general music boards.
Musikchan was a spin off of here which is basically the same just with less traffic.
8 and infinity chans are just fucking awful.
7chan is dead.
420chan is really shitty.
Thats about it other than forums.
>>64754694
why would you post your opinion on music on a music board that you don't go on
>>64755565
Pop music with rapping is just pop.
>>64755565
Too bad Drake has only one good album, and it's not that one.
>>64755635
i like views too mayne but i dont got it on this computer man
>>64755657
No dawg it's IYRTITL
>>64754505
you don't like hip hop because you are autistic, hence the anime picture
>>64754765
Legitimate question, how do you differentiate?
>>64755795
rap is a verb, hip hop is a noun and sometimes has rapping
>>64755795
Spot the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L9204LZDUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPZDdHzSZ4
>>64754705
>"you know what would improve this? real people "
But real people are ugly and gross.
Seconding Drake. The boy can sing
Personally, I prefer instrumental hip hop to rap and hip hop with vocals, but there are good exceptions to this as well. To me it's like 2/3 dependent on the producer and the rest comes from the rapper (assuming the rapper (not Viper) exists). You should probably start with stuff like Onra's Chinoiseries or something similar. It's instrumental and I dig it.
>>64755996
too mainstream
>>64756083
for me it's 80% beat 20% lyrics
only prerequisite is bearable voice (no autotune, singing, or whining (unless danny brown))
>>64754705
>>64754505
I agree with both of these 5's. Likewise, I can enjoy SOME anime and SOME rap, but overall, nah.
>>64755875
Is there no grey area? Would you consider rap with high production and sampling to fall under hip hop, or is it turntable DJs exclusively?
>>64756254
The bearability of autotune depends on the song (if I may call it that) as a whole, and occasioinally I find it a good thing to hear it used. Lately I've listened BONES and Gvcci Hvcci a lot. They seem to hit me in the spot at the moment.
Nah hip-hop can be pretty good. You might not like current pop rap (I think some is decent) but it's a genre with interesting roots and lots of influence and importance to modern pop
Hip-hop as a genre doesn't really have "great" masterworks but there's a lot out there that's still pretty good.
Your issue is probably that you're used to other kinds of music where the focus is on conveying the emotion directly through the notes. Generally but not as a rule, hip-hop consciously emphasizes creating its mood or "vibe" through its production choices, which may include things like samples that create an abstract context (so for an example, a sample of someone playing the piano may be more about the mood the scene with the pianist conveys or the mood the quality of the sample conveys than the note choice). While in other genres, clarity of performance is often the goal with it, in hip-hop the goal is to create a mood ala impressionism and then modulate it.
While obviously these rules are not rigid (note choice is obviously a part of vibe and production and timbre affects how notes are perceived), generally the emphasis is what distinguishes hip-hop from other popular genres.
>>64755953
pls tell me this is b8
>>64756875
Why else would people like anime? There's a reason it attracts the people it does
>>64756099
hipster trash
>>64756764
>Meme Grips
>Shameme Palaces
>Divine Memer
>El-Meme
>Dr. Octameme
Pathetic b8.
From what I've heard, doing drugs makes repetitive, static music seem really amazing. Try doing drugs.
>>64757102
Yeah not everything on the chart is "patrish" or whatever but it should suffice for wannabe special-snowflakes like OP
>>64754882
he's right though, the dumb fans are what's holding hip hop back
if it doesn't sound a certain way, they won't listen to it
>>64754929
>liking good rap is a bad thing
>labeling it conscious somehow makes it worse
This meme needs to stop.
>>64754505
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong board, the ecchi club's two blocks down.
>>64757639
and you need to stop being bothered by others opinion you fucking pussy
>>64754505
What do you have to say about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7I152Dik2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZixLBSqIlnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLg2I9zgCi4
>>64754505
Listen to Kanye's MBDTF
I personally disliked the album, but it mixes singing with rap/hip hop.
>>64754505
Ever hear of Nujabes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCmT8QMyUwU
>>64754730
>B-but M-m-metal
just stop
>>64754505
U sound like a drake fan
>>64754505
sauce on that image?
>>64754505
just keep jerking off to animated 11 year olds and listening to queen
>>64759874
>the year of our lord 2016
>not jerking off to animated 11 year olds while listening to rap
fucking pleb
>>64754505
I can't stand rap or hip hop too, mainly because of the vibes it brings.
Listen to Cosmogramma by Flying Lotus. That's some good hip hop.
>>64756300
well at least yr not a weeb and that's all that matters
>>64758756
hes the only one I liked but I didn't want to mention him cause people would criticize me for it
>>64754705
>"you know what would improve this? real people "
i cant tell if this is actually funny or if im just so fucked up
>>64754505
What does it smell under a skirt?
>>64763338
?????????????
You have to think of it as poetry, but with a beat. My favourite rappers, like Watsky, Hop Sun, and Harry Baker were all slam poets, and a lot of good rap music is about the message and deep words and not vapid lyrics and trashy guitar solos.
However, having said that, I understand why you don't like it, because not all music has to be for everyone.
>>64763520
bretty good b8
Herd mentality. End of story.
>>64754565
>Most memed album is TPAB
>lol dude im a nigger and im oppressed
>lol dude all these white people hate me cause im a nigger
>>64765262
its a boring album but its not about being oppressed, stop acting like youre some victim or shit of black oppression
