Has there ever been an influential band leaded by relatively old people?
Every time we look at the age 'big' musicians started, it looks like everyone made it big before turning twenty.
>>64685187
PiL sucks big dick
>>64685187
sun kil moon
>>64685216
You suck big dick. Metal Box, First Issue and The Flowers of Romance are post-punk masterpieces.
Duke Ellington and His Orchestra
>>64685187
Swans?
A lot of rappers seem to be around 30-40 when they reach their prime commercially
lcd soundsystem
>>64685319
What?
>>64685295
Swans.
>>64685187
James Murphy was in his mid 30s when LCD Soundsystem blew up.
Guided By Voices were in their mid-to-late 30s when they finally had their breakthrough in the mid 90s.
>>64685261
lol were bad at playing instruments so its art! gotcha!
>>64685374
lol i don't like unconventional music so its shit! gotcha!
>>64685187
That one guy from Wire was 30 when Pink Flag came out.
The Stranglers were all considerably older than the average early-20s average age of those first-wave UK punk bands. I think the drummer was pushing 40 at the time their first album was released.
>>64685261
listen to more post-punk jesus christ
>>64685374
>implying Jah Wobble and Keith Levene are bad at playing their instruments
This better be bait, Jah Wobble is a fantastic dub bassist and Keith Levene's unique style paved the way for a million post-punk/alternative rock guitarists
>>64685450
Fuck off, faggot. PiL were the best post-punk band.
Tom Waits' most acclaimed and influential albums weren't recorded until he was 30+
Mick Mars was 32 when Shout at the Devil came out. Motley had some influence in the glam scene in the eighties, despite of not releasing anything good after SatD
>>64685374
>sid vicious couldn't play bass very well so that means PiL a band that didn't even exist in Sid's lifetime can't play their instruments
>>64685525
god i fucking hate those cunts
>>64685517
>most acclaimed and influential
Closing Time, at 24
>>64685544
Why people like Sid Vicious anyway?
He did nothing by himself except dying. People only know about him because he was with a well-known band,
As far as I know, Son Lux was over 30 years old before releasing any music.
>>64685506
like I said you need to listen to more if you hold this shitty opinion
she was like 30 something when they made it big
>>64685187
Motorhead
>>64685589
Just because it is your favourite doesn't mean it was his most influential and acclaimed.
>hint: it is rain dogs
>>64685589
>Swordfishtrombones - 32
>Rain Dogs - 35
>Mule Variations - 50
>>64685589
No one gives a shit about that album. Swordfishtrombones is when Tom started getting a ton of acclaim.
>>64685590
Poor kid that looked cool, rebellious and brimming with personality. He wasn't talented or anything but at the time a lot of people could relate to him.
He was practically a counter-culture pop-idol with all the manufactured hype.
>>64685622
post your top 30 post punk right now
I'm not the guy you're talking to but I'm always on the lookout for good post-punk and you probably know some stuff I don't.
>>64685622
Like I said, fuck off.
>>64685565
why?
>>64685628
cameltoe
>>64685674
top 3 sorry, 30 is a bit much to ask for
>>64685602
Really? I always thought he was under 30 even now
>>64685684
key markets fucking irritated the shit out of me
maybe it's just that i'm scottish and i can't stand their fucking godawful midland drawl
nomeansno got big when they were a bit older, especially for a punk band
>public image ltd
>the public has no image of them
>they don't limit themselves in any way
>>64685727
I think he's somewhere around 36 or 37 now.
>>64685187
Greg Ginn was in his late 20s when Black Flag began IIRC. Pretty old for a punk band.
>>64685674
Dog Faced Hermans - Hum of Life
Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
Ensemble Pittoresque - For This Is Past
listen to the stuff on this chart too
https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&vif=3fie&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=post-punk&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=
>>64685947
Oh dang you included Bauhaus. I love bauhaus.
Will listen to the others, thanks man.
>>64685947
>Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
Do you seriously think that Bauhaus are obscure?
>>64686005
I didn't ask him for the most obscure, I asked him for his favorites.
>>64686025
I'm not talking to you. Anyway, my point is he seemed to dismiss PiL for being "entry level" but one of his favorite post-punk albums is "entry level".
>>64686054
he didn't say they were entry-level he said they weren't the best. You're putting words into his mouth mang.
>>64686005
I don't care about obscurity I just don't take anyone seriously when they say PiL is their favourite post-punk band
that's not to even say I have great taste either
>>64686192
what are your opinions on Siouxsie and the banshees? That's my favorite.
>>64685767
ah, nationalism :^)
>>64685216
>>64685261
>>64685450
>>64685506
>>64685622
>>64685674
>>64685947
>>64686005
>>64686025
>>64686054
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>>64686192
Can't you guys just be friends?
>>64686242
We're not NOT friends if that's what you're implying. We're just talking about music we like a lot.
>>64686242
Maybe.
>>64685187
You're a big musician
>>64686219
never been a huge fan but their earlier stuff is alright
>>64686266
it's all banter mate
![Seasick_Steve_913620a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KNCT8Le.jpg "Seasick_Steve_913620a[1].jpg")
This guy was like 50 when he made it big
>>64686384
*60
>>64686384
he also produced long drive
dude's great
Sufjan is 56
>>64686333
I really like this album by Dog Faced Hermans. Thanks for that rec. Do you know Cinema Strange? Kinda reminded me of that, just a lot more energetic
>>64686460
i don't think that's true anon
>>64686460
He gets an extra year added for each state he still has to record a concept album for.
douche
>>64685628
Is that straight vagoo
>>64685684
Cause theyve been calling Slaves shit, they can fuck off
>>64685187
Once you hit 30 your likelihood of becoming famous decreases tremendously according to a study that examined the average age of success.
>>64685187
Can
>>64686468
heard of them but never listened, I will check them out
>>64685670
i like his singing
>>64686714
only 16 year old cunts like slaves
>>64685216
>>64685187
Cheap Trick. Every subsequent generation buries them a little more, but they are probably the most influential rock act for the the entire 90s and early 00s.
>>64685277
When Duke's orchestra became a big deal in Harlem he was about 25.
>>64685628
>yfw you'll never bang prime Debbie
Sturgill Simpson is like pushing 40.
>>64685565
God I love those fucking cunts
Sufjan Stevens was 30 when he released Illinoise, and that was 11 years ago.
the fucking scatman
All of the guys in The National are like middle aged.
Pulp started super young but didn't really get anywhere until Jarvis was in his 30s.
