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only twenty hours, lads.
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fuck im so excited
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WEEEEEEEEW
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is the first release since i'm a fan, so I'M SO FUCKING HYPED
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>>64666049
Moral Orel DVD collection drops tomorrow
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Why was he sweating after looking at the model village?
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>>64666102
It was hot out
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>>64666102
Bloberta caught Clay cheating on her
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Speaking of AS
Anyone else have this? literally my prized posseion
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>>64666070

Kinda the same here since I jumped on with the release of TKOL. Wondered what /mu/ was pissing themselves over this time and it turned out alright.
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I just hope Daydreamers doesn't end up being the best track on there.
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>>64666239
Nah. They're saving the best for later. They've been doing this for years, it would be such a bad move on their behalf.
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>>64666160
Great fucking show.
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Leave AOTY to me
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>>64666239

It won't be if Present Tense is on there.....and they don't fuck it up.
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>>64666398
*AOTD
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>>64667074

Yep, it will be the Album of the decade.
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>>64666398
>that neck

it's almost like his head is about to fall off
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>>64665962
>a new DG and a new Radiohead album is being released weeks within eachother

My heart cannot take it
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>>64667274
2016 has been wild, and we're not even halfway.
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i cant wait until after tomorrow when we get to post "Where were you when Radiohead cemented their status as the greatest band of all time?"
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>>64666398
thank you captain birdseye
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This will be my first *NEW* Radiohead release, only started listening a few months ago. P excited
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>>64667349
same

this has been one wild ride
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I'm so fucking ready to love this album. Been listening to BTW and daydreaming non-stop and now I feel sick with excitement to hear the rest.
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>>64667349
>>64667374

I can't imagine what that's like.


Young whippersnappers.

I remember when all this was trees.

>fake plastic trees
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It's gonna be a mix of Kid A and In Rainbows and it's gonna be fucking great
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>>64666094
kek
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This better be on it
https://youtu.be/IqzkehOhZn0
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Guys, what if the album sucks?
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>>64667889
shut up
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>>64667889
it will not. radiohead haven't made a bad album in 23 years
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Guys, what if this album dethrones MBDTF as the best album of the 2010's on RYM?

I think I'd do a little dance in my bedroom.
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>>64667274
The same fucking weekend, actually.

Hype.
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How are you guys gonna listen to it? I might just lay in bed and listen to the whole thing, or maybe go on a bike ride as I really like listening to music while cycling.
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>>64667955
why hasn't GKMC dethroned it yet?
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>>64667979
In my room, on my bed..
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>>64667979

Laying in bed with my headphones on after smoking a pot or two in complete darkness
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>>64667792
it's gonna be a mix of HttT and KoL, and it's gonna be patrician-tier great
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>>64667889
Please stop commenting.
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>>64666102
>go to some town for inspection
>within a minute of arrival they show you a little miniature model they made of you
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>>64667993
Not sure. People seem to hold MBDTF as the masterpiece of the 2010's, which inspired albums like GKMC.
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I am not hype.

Neither of the songs have really grabbed me, or prompted repeat listens. This has been a good year for music for me and I consider myself a pretty big RH fan.

I hope I'm wrong and it's exciting, but judging off these tracks, it'll slip by the wayside in my rotation just as quickly as TKoL did.

I think the new Fog album is what I'd want from the new RH album, and I'm already in love with the new Fog album.
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>>64666160
So good
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>>64667979
I'm gonna put my headphones on, hit play and play Silent Hill tb h. Music seems to resonate more with me when I associate with a favorite game or book.
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>>64668088

>just as quickly as TKoL did.

opinion discarded, TKOL is amazing.
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been relistening to radiohead's discography
kid a is just as GOAT as i remember
OKC is just as GOAT as i remember
IR is worse
TKOL is better
HTTT is seriously underrated, same with Amnesiac
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>>64667539
I'm with you, this thread is making me feel old
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Have any of you fucks actually seen Trumpton?
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This is the first Radiohead release I'm anticipating too. I barely missed TKOL, that was 5 years ago.

I feel... I feel good. This makes me happy. Hope Radiohead puts out a good album. I'll be happy with whatever it sounds like.
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>>64666239
Daydreaming will probably be track 3 or 4 filler as usual. It's got that Weird Fishes feeling to it, but darker.
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>>64667979
While shitposting on /mu/ about how awful it is.
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>>64667889
DELETE
T
H
I
S
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this is my second release as a fan. I hopped on the train when I was 14 in 2009 and I've never looked back. I was a little let down with tkol but it aint bad at all. If this album is on par with that I will be very pleased; if its on par with the greats I will be ecstatic.
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>>64666398
Oh don't worry, cap'n Thumby, I am!
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>>64668241
Nah. TKoL has several amazing songs and several songs that could have been cut. It's not a bad album, it's just that there were a handful of albums in 2011 that were more exciting to listen to.
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>>64668642
There really weren't. It should be the best album of 2011.
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>>64668348
Nope, I take it it's some britbong kids show, though?
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>>64668660
2011 had many phenomenal albums, including Exmilitary, James Blake, Let England Shake, Plains of the Purple Buffalo, Replica, and We Are Rising.
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>>64668660
Astronautalis, O'Brother, O'Death, Locrian, Maths, Serengeti, The Republic of Wolves, This Will Destroy You, Vessels.

And I'm not even saying TKoL is bad. I'm saying I thought these albums were better, so I listened to them more. The end.
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>>64667979
I'll get up at 6am tomorrow NZ time (Which is when it's released in Britain) and listen to it at my computer, get ready for university, and then listen to it a second time on the commute.

Really excited, it's been so long since a Radiohead full length and I loved both singles.
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Do you guys know when the album will be released in CST? (Essentially Texas time)
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>>64668938
1PM
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>>64668998
Proof?

Also thanks
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>>64669023
It's coming out in the UK at 7pm. Texas is 6 hours behind.
I'm not even good at maths, come on.
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Wow. Why does Texas get it before the UK?

I don't get it
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>>64669058
They don't
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>>64669073
Do we all get it at the same time?

Actually, yes, we do. I just thought about it, holy fuck I'm smart. You just have to wait longer during the day but it's released at the same time
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>>64667074
*AOTL
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>>64669058
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So I always thought Kid A to be underrated until today, when it clicked and became 10/10 AOTM
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>>64669098
Yeah.

Say a Texan and a British person wake up at the same hour of the day: 8.

If we go by Texan time, a Texan would only have to wait five hours for the release since waking up. For someone in the UK, they would have to wait eleven hours for the release since waking up.

It seems deceiving but in the end both get to listen to the album at the same exact time. It just feels like the UK person waits longer for it. There's no delay though.
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>there are people on /mu/ right now for whom this is the first radiohead release

damn i feel old

i remember the in rainbows release like yesterday
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>>64667889

Literally impossible.
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>>64669157
*overrated

silly me :^)
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Sorry but I really don't enjoy Daydreaming

The lyrics are so face-value/simplistic that they border on annoying in that respect and the piano is nothing much interesting despite leading the track. The vocal glitches are kind of cool but its almost like they're ripping off themselves, with how much they're like the glitchy vocals on Kid A.
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>>64669170
I'm in the UK and usually get up at like 6 or 7 anyway so it's all good.
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>>64669172

I remember HTTT like it was yesterday, child.
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>>64668366
>best song on the album
>filler
Ok kid eh
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>>64669253
Yeah well I remember Amnesiac like it was yesterday, P.S. I'm older than you
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>>64669058
Hahahahha holy shit
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>>64669194

The lyrics are about his divorce and they're honest. The fact that they're honest ands straight forward is why the song is good
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>>64669292
Yeah well I remember Kid A like it was yesterday.

Pro tip: I'm older than both of you.
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>>64669170
>unironically having to explain time zones

/mu/ really is cancer.
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>>64669308
I remember On A Friday back in my Oxford days

PS I'm older than all your dads
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>>64665962
I have never listened to a song by Radiohead that I liked.
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>>64669330
Thom?
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>>64667349
I know that feel anon, I got into Radiohead before In Rainbows. Prepare to get blown the fuck off.
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>>64669330
I went to the same school as Thom and talked to him in 5th period.

PS I'm older than your grandpa.
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>>64669330
>70 year old man memeing it up on /mu/ on a Saturday day

wew
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>>64668366
i hope this isnt implying that weird fishes is filler
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>>64669308

I'm easily old enough to remember kid A but i didn't start listening to Radiohead until HTTT (i was 19 btw)
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>>64669306
I've no problem with simple lyrics but there's already a common idiom in the first line
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>>64669330
any sort of proof and you'd be the most based person on mu
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>>64669364
It's the early hours of Sunday here, mate
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>>64669362
I was present in the house in Wellingborough when Thom Yorke was born.

PS I'm older than your great grandpa
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>>64669364

>tfw that's gonna be me someday

assuming /mu/ still exists
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>>64669397
I was neighbor to Thom Yorke's parents on the night they conceived him.

PS I'm older than your great great grandpa
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>tfw True Love Waits
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>>64669386

Sorry you don't understand the song I could explain the purpose of him using idioms but you'll struggle to understand without some real life experience kid. So I'll just leave it, you'll understand the nuances of songwriting one day.
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>>64669476
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>>64669417
I was Thom Yorke's grandpa.
PS Fuck you all, newfags
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Ed is my second cousin. He used to babysit me
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I'm ready.
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>>64669512
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Thom Yorke's existence is a speck on the scale of human existence, which is itself a speck to me.
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I'm thom yorke. fuck all you faggots.

t. Thom Yorke

:)
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>>64669562

He was his handsomest during HTTT
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>>64669576
Proof?
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>>64669562
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>>64669585
Hi


t. Thom yorke
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>>64669576
Hello Thom, is /mu/ your favourite board
?
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>>64669606
that's not thom, though?
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>>64669636
Yes it is.
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>>64667274
>comparing a fucking nigger screaming memes over a beat to based thom and his band.
>not being excited about the avalanches.
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>>64669668

ok Thanks for answering, I'm a big fan
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>>64669668
I like you thom.
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>>64669058
.............................................................
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>>64669562
long hair vagrant thom is best thom.
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>>64670094
Are there actually conservatives who like Radiohead? Like how does that happen?
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Could you imagine the shitstorm is Thom endorsed Trump? There would be mass suicides probably
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>new radiohead album
>also my birthday
it doesn't get any better
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>>64670286
You do realize the Thief in Hail to the Thief is Donald Trump, right? He wrote that album against Trump.

Why would he support him, idiot.
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>>64670226

/mu/ ignores the political statements of their favorite artists because by and large they disagree with them
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>>64667274
>Bowie
>Beyonce
>Death Grips
>Radiohead
>Gorillaz
>Drake
>Starbomb
>Possibly Roger Waters
>Possibly but very doubtfully David Gilmour

YASSS.wav
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>>64670094
>traps can share the same bathroom as little girls
what's the issue with this
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>>64670309
Some people have only started being radiohead fans two weeks ago.
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>>64670293

>tomorrow comes
>new album
>it has 5 songs
>everyone says it's not the full album part 2 will come out next week
>it never does

I hate TKoL so much
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whens it being released?
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>>64667979
>Lock self in room
>Lie in bed
>Headphones.jpg
>???
>profit
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>>64670347
people like to be edgy contrarians and keep other people from doing their thing (while jerking themselves off for being so conservative and caring about freedom)
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Objective radiohead ranking

Kid A>In Rainbows=OKC>Amnesiac>HTT>The Bends>TKOL>Pablo Honey
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>>64670342
>Starbomb
Autism.
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>>64667074
Album Of The Day?
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>>64670341
It's impossible to separate Radiohead's artistry from it's political message.

Conservative Radiohead fans: do you just skip their many political songs, like the Tourist or Idioteque or 2+2=5 or Burn the Witch, or do you pretend they mean something else?
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>>64670420
that seems right
and he supports Trump, who seems to not really care about that issue as a whole, a bit funny
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>>64670454
>The Tourist
>political
You're an idiot.
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people that have waited 5 years for this, how are you feeling?
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>>64669855
I'm dissing you op, fuck these I can never risk it.

>>64670454
I'm not at all conservative but I don't see why you couldn't just listen to it for the nice sounds. Not sure how the tourist is political though.
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so what is the album called? And is that black and white thing the album cover?
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>>64670561
Radiohead (White Album) and yes
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>>64670425
come on.
amnesiac>kidA=HTTT>tkol=IR=OKC>dabenz>>>thelifeofpablo
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>>64670454

Because I don't give a shit about the message of a song or it's underlying theme. I just care if it sounds good or not to my ears.

Thom can sing about titties and ass, and if it sounds beautiful, then that's all that matters to me.
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>>64670503
>>64670472
the Tourist is the thesis statement of OK Computer. It's a criticism of a consumerist, thoughtless society, where we see sights but don't experience. The dog barks at the protagonist, knowing something is off about this way of life, and the lyrics implore you to slow down, idiot.

>>64670625
>mfw all he thinks Radiohead are just a bunch of pretty sounds
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>>64670425
I feel like this is the objective ranking but my personal ranking would be

Kid A > OKC > IR > TKOL > HTTT > Bends > Amnesiac > PH
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>>64670427
Can neither confirm nor deny, but either way it's happening. Just trying to point out artists who are releasing new albums this year.
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>>64670670
I can see that interpretation, but I always just felt that it was about rushing through life perpetually looking towards the future, without slowing down to appreciate the present.
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>>64670574
please dont anon
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>>64670625
>Thom can sing about titties and ass, and if it sounds beautiful, then that's all that matters to me.
You're what's wrong with the music industry and community desu
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>>64670742
fuck off dangy
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>>64665962
Was this video in the same cinematic universe as the There There video?
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>>64666070
fucking same. such a good feel.
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>>64670825
>bemoans thoughtless, consumerist society
>is left-wing/liberal

Conservatives who listen to radiohead just write off the politics as naïve and confused and appreciate and enjoy the otherwise well-crafted musicianship and artistry.
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>>64670961
I dunno but does anyone else find that part where thom turns into a tree weirdly arousing?
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>>64670419
literal headphones.jpg
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>>64670347
Self identifying as a different gender doesn't make you that gender
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>>64671192
>muh social construct
what does, then?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10156851
http://www.strawpoll.me/10156851
http://www.strawpoll.me/10156851
http://www.strawpoll.me/10156851
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>>64671192
Having a brain structure analogous to that of the gender identity you identify as, despite it conflicting with your sex, does :)
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>>64671239
this. surprised to see a comment like this in 4chan, tho

Kids sure have changed since I used to lurk around
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>>64671239
>mental illness
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>>64671239
nice
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>>64671297
Its about as mentally ill as homosexuals really and if we're accepting them we might as well accept trans people and let them dress up as girls if it makes them happier.
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>>64671239
when they say transexuals have a brain structure analogous to their desired sex, they don't mean they've got a full blown female brain, it's just a handful of things out of like thousands are a little more similar. so there goes that line of reasoning.
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>>64671452
pls dont say that anon ;_;
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>>64670454
2 + 2 = 5 is inspired by a book that criticized left wing dictatorship
Burn The Witch is about mob mentality and the end of free speech, something that SJWs are masters of.
As a right-wing libertarian, yes, I can hear Radiohead without accepting their ideology.
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>>64671285
Oh don't worry, most people on 4chan still think trans people are delusional.

>>64671405
Isn't that still evidence that there's something unusual about transgender brains that causes a dissonance between the brain and the body? Anyway when someone feel terribly out of place in their body, and feel more comfortable in one that resembles the opposite sex, then who the fuck cares?
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>>64668304
The most accurate description, I pretty much feel the same
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>>64671383
they can play dress up and take all the pills that they want but they don't get the same rights as their prefered gender
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>>64671514
Been years since I read 1984, but I remember it being more of a critique of right wing facism - surveillance, pro-war, staunch nationalism etc. Animal farm was more of the far left/communism cautionary tale.

Burn the Witch is to me a commentary on fearmongering, and scare tactics, allowing our emotions and fear to divide us rather than promoting tolerance for different people.

But I guess that just proves the point that different people can extract different meanings from the same song.
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Just seeing Thom face i know he'll die soon. Mark my words, one month, maybe two months, he's ready to die and he knows it. Mark my words, screencap this, i know what i am saying.
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Digits for P4K score
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>>64671765
We should have equal rights anyway
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>>64671559
it isn't evidence of anything other than sickness.

the reason why it's a concern in that case is because if we have the attitude of 'who cares' that makes it out to be something other than a sickness.

did we say 'who cares' to cancer? or have we spent trillions and trillions of dollars over the history of mankind attempting to cure it?
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>>64671771
he'll be fine
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>>64671785
How is dressing up like a girl and using the girls bathroom a right?
And Daydreamers is a great song
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>>64671791
Cancer kills people. So does being trans, except that transitioning is to being trans what chemo is to having cancer. It's more viable to change the body to match the brain, than to mess with the brain, which is a terribly complex system - look how attempting to manipulate parts of the brain turned out in the past.
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>>64671777
How many points above 9 will LP9 get, guys?

Predictions below
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>>64671239
Well put

>inb4 cuck xD
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>>64671559

Yeah. Think if too much focus is put on "born this way" it doesn't really help. The evidence is mixed at best and if anything seems to point to culture/experience being the bigger factor. Not saying that people *aren't* born that or any way. But that recognition shouldn't be contingent on it.

At the end of the day culture/nurture/experience whatever causes physical changes in the brain (as does all learning). So disentangling the biological from the social seems nearly impossible.
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>>64670094
you know thom would be disgusted with you, right?
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>>64671514
typical trump fan not realizing orwell was a hardcore leftist
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>>64672034
yeah... but claiming to actually be a female and then bullying anyone who sees you as a male and won't refer to you as a "woman" makes you a piece of shit whatever gender you may or may not actually be. end of discussion.
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>>64671770
>>64671514

Exactly. Probably more accurate to say 1984 is a critique of authoritarianism more generally, left or right. But Orwell did fight for socialists in Spain/praised anarchist Catalonia.

Think Burn The Witch is about fear, scare tactics used by the press and governments. Some parts make me think of anti immigrant rhetoric. Some of Thom's slight conspiracy theorist tendencies.

What's so great about this song to me is the simple lyrics/instrumentation being used to make something bigger than the sum of their parts. Isn't what is played/sang but how it combines to creates a bigger effect.

Think Burn the Witch is
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>>64672173
Compared to how people think and behave today he was a fucking Nazi racist fascist

That's all good though, I know those things go beyond your perception
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Is Identikit gonna be on there?
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>>64672069
What social factors do you think would lead someone to feel like their body is wrong? David Reimer is a compelling case - he was surgically altered to have female parts at birth, and was raised as a girl, and still ended up identifying as male later in life.

>>64672178
I think when you won't respect such a harmless wish that's clearly important to them, you become the bully.
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What will they name it?
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i can't with the hype, i'm gonna be dissapointed because of that
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>Thinking it's bullying to intellectually and rationally consider the possibility out loud of whether gender misidentification can't be reasonably thought of as a form of damaging mental illness


>consider

>out loud
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>>64666070
same here lad. gonna be great
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>>64667929
I disagree, thought not as bad as Pablo Honey, TKOL was pretty mediocre and underwhelming.
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>>64672243
Dead Air Space

Who here listening to their entire discography?
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>>64672219
i hope not. i never really liked that song..
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>>64672222
>I think when you won't respect such a harmless wish that's clearly important to them, you become the bully.

this. it matters a lot to them but is utterly trivial to me and 99.9% of us, so let them identify however the fuck they want and relax.
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I'm terrible with American time, how many hours from now?
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very hopeful. daydreaming was wonderful
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After re-listening all their discography, it remembered me how amazing and underrated their EP's and B-Sides are.
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>>64672333
2pm est
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>>64671971
If all the songs on it are as good as Burn The Witch and Daydreaming i wouldn't be surprised if it got 9.4+
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>>64672222

It's more the lack of evidence for meaningful differences between males and female brains. Or at least, that these differences are intrinsic and not generated by experience. There are general differences but theirs more difference within men and woman than there are between them. And again it's hard to prove these differences are from birth and not developed.

Added to that there's lots of other cultures who have more than two genders, indicating that the general western conception of gender and sex are most likely culturally constructed.

But like i said. None of that should erase trans people's right to exist. Cis is just as constructed as trans is in this scenario. And not saying this is definitely right.
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Lp9 is gonna be named "we hate our fans lol" and its gonna be a 6songs album
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>>64672365
Sorry but how do you guys know the abum will leak at that time??
>tfw sleepy
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>>64672425
haha!
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>>64672433
http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace
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>>64672353
I reckon they could put together an album based solely of their B-Sides and it could be quite a bit better than any of their actual LPs, and I don't really even think it would be really that difficult. They've got B-Sides that are legit better than plenty of acclaimed band's best material.
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>>64672433
that when they announced it will be released
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>>64671514
Orwell is among the most cogent socialist writers of his time. 1984 and Animal House were not criticisms of leftism inasmuch as of Sovietism.

>>64672184
Interesting. To me, Burn the Witch seems to be explicitly about fear-mongering as it relates to the response to the refugee crisis and American right-wing nativism.
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>>64672425
lp9 is gonna be s/t with this tracklist:
1. Burn the Witch
2. untitled (electroacoustic improvisation with 20 minutes)
3. untitled (solo thom doing random bleeps for 30 minutes)
4. Daydreaming
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anyone have the mega link for daydreaming? couldnt find it in the archives
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>>64672476
baha
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>>64672407
>lots of cultures with more than two genders
Any examples? Really curious about this
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>>64666160
dude i love xaiver so much!
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>>64670309
holy shit
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>>64672476
>9.8 BNM
>1.57 on rym
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>>64670454
You don't have to ignore political messages that aren't congruent with your own to enjoy music, or art. I'm quite far left and Burzum is one of my favorite metal artists, I'm aware of his social views and how he communicates that through his music but I can still listen to his records and love them and also like him as an artist. Are you really so sensitive that if you listen to music made by somebody with different political beliefs you have to literally ignore the lyrics?
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>>64665962
Any news about the album's name?
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AIDS OF THE YEAR THREAD
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>>64670670
>the Tourist is the thesis statement of OK Computer. It's a criticism of a consumerist, thoughtless society, where we see sights but don't experience. The dog barks at the protagonist, knowing something is off about this way of life, and the lyrics implore you to slow down, idiot.
>implying a conservative couldn't agree and appreciate this
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>>64671108
Just how deluded are you?
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>>64667274

deaf grapes is dog shit, but this new radiohead should be fine
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>>64672529
Well, you think about them, don't you? It depends to some extent on how necessary the politics is to the work; something like Hail to the Thief is explicitly political through and through, while In Rainbows could very easily be enjoyed by someone from any ideology.
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>>64670309
>>64670348
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP YOU FUCKING NEWFAGS
UNDERAGE B&S OFF MY BOARD
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>>64672173
Holy retard, I don't even support Trump.
Someone being a leftist doesn't mean he won't criticize the left, asshole.
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>>64672446
Well, Amnesiac is sort of a Kid A's B-Sides, but even with that it stands as a very solid album and it's better than other bands' best works.
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>>64672595
When I listen to Varg's music I am aware of what he believes and I am strongly against what he stands for, but this just doesn't factor into my appreciation of his music at all. I relate to his feelings, I don't just hear people singing about things and see how they solely fit into my own world view, I feel what they feel and I empathize with them. I don't agree with him at all, but I still love his music. I'm just shocked that somebody would actually believe that you CANNOT BE a conservative if you like Radiohead because they happen to be leftist.
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>>64672517
Please do explain why you posted that image
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HOLY SHIT CHECK THEIR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW
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>>64672692
>I am strongly against what he stands for
fag
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>>64672723
Don't bother guys, saving you time
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>>64672510
Just google it. Lots. not only extra genders but what has constituted "manliness" etc has changed a lot throughout history and in different civilisations. In Greece for example it was fine to be gay as long as you were giving not receiving TO receive was seen as submissive and therefore being more female like.

Add to all this that the nature/culture distinction seems to be a pretty rare distinction outside of western europe historically then our ideas of nature and culture seem to be culturally constructed as well. Like i said just google it. Lots of interesting stuff to read.

I study social anthropology so that's why i'm interested in this stuff myself.
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>>64672219
Please yes for the love of god.
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>>64669855
OP lives in cuckland of the joker tits and probably fucks bottles of syrup, can't risk that /mu/ magic.
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>>64672747
Except science already works with the idea that gender is innate. Those cultures only have a misconception of what gender actually is. See

https://youtu.be/cVaTc15plVs

and after this

http://youtu.be/41ryusHlrgw


Trans people have a gender dysphoria
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>>64672407
Mm I see what you're saying, and I definitely agree that gender is mostly a product of social roles, but my experiences have led me to believe that trans people specifically experience discomfort with their actual biology moreso than their gender role. Anyway it's not particularly relevant to me so I'm no expert, I'll stop before I start talking shit.
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>>64672747
lol anthropology is a fucking joke. it's built off faulty axioms and tends to make far-reaching conclusions with minimal evidence
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>>64672717
not him, but hail to the thief isnt about trump lol
its about george bush
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>>64671514
2 +2 = 5 comes from Hail to the Thief which was literally an album criticizing right-wing politics. Even the phrase "Hail to the Thief" was originally a slogan used to criticize George W. Bush.
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>>64672824
>go to thread about Radiohead
>jump to bottom
>see this
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>>64672243
I read "Within Arms Reach" somewhere
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>>64672834
>2 +2 = 5 comes from Hail to the Thief
thats not what hes talking about you fucking retard
that phrase is most often seen as coming from the book 1984, about an authoritarian leftist state
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>>64672861
lmao yeah
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>>64672861
fucking /mu/
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>>64672747
Also, search for Simon Baron-Cohen's work on the mental differences between men and women. Gender is less of social construct than you might think.
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>>64672879
I understand that dude, I was referring to the song named 2 + 2 = 5 which, yes, refers to that book. I was talking specifically about the song in the context of the album though
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>>64672692
Yeah, there's some value in that. Stepping out of one's shoes for a while to experience the rich emotion someone on the other side of the wall is conveying
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>>64666398
why does he look 63
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>>64672879
Orwell: "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it".
The ruling party in 1984 is never aligned with any particular ideology, it's just authoritarian.
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>>64672793
damn...
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>>64669058
>American education
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>>64670347
>worried about sharing bathrooms
>what are porta pottys
>what are unisex toilets
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I'm ready
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>>64672973
>so butthurt his thread flopped that he has to post it in the popular thread
embarrassing
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>>64669058
cause texas kicks ass nigga
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