The long awaited update is here.
>Type II twice
>type ii twice
YOU
FUCKED
UP
ANON
>>64652480
lol what the fug is dis :DDDDDDD
>>64652493
>>64652504
Oh fuck my ass I'll fix it right away
New Wave should be in type 0.
>>64652601
top kek
What do the tiers actually mean? is music at the top harder to listen to? or is it more obscure, or just listened to by people with more "advanced" taste?
Why would free improvisation be on the same level as serialism? free improv is hack as fuck, and serialism takes serious skill and hard work to create, literally the opposite of free improv.
>>64652601
Neat.
>le black metal is a higher form of art than other forms of metal meme
Disqualified.
>>64652566
Harsh noise in the same type as Modal Jazz makes 0 sense
>>64652996
You're right. I will fix that for the next revision.
>>64652480
>goth rock is in tier 1 while post punk is tier 2
uneducated
>math rock is this low as kpop
Sure a lot of ppl like it w/o much struggle but it does not compare to things listed below.
-deep house can be pushed down to tier 1, its liked in normie crowds, outsider house can take its place
-not sure but nu jazz can go lower as well
-synthpop is questionable bc electropop is mostly easy junk and should be in tier 1 but the classical synth stuff can go in same place as new wave. Same thing with industrial rock, industrial metal is definitely tier 1, but dunno bout rock
Fix it fucker
>>64652480
oh boy
ty for the update
who are the lads in the background picture?
>>64653013
Woops by tier 1 i meant type 0 and by tier 2 i meant type 1, didnt notice
>>64653019
Fucking wrong
>>64653013
Some of these will be taken into consideration.
>>64652566
0: Hardcore Punk, Garage Rock, Singer/Songwriter, Punk Rock, Screamo, Emo, Gothic Rock, Glam Rock
1: Noise Rock, French Chanson, Bebop, Gothic Country, Delta Blues, Sludge Metal, Cool Jazz, West African Traditional Music
2: Martial Industrial, Experimental Big Band, Baroque, Post-Bop, North African Traditional Music, Hard Bop, No Wave, Industrial, Art Punk, Gypsy Jazz, East Asian Classical Music (North Asia refers to Siberia. There is no Northeast Asia region)
3: Free Jazz, Avant-Garde Jazz, Middle Eastern Traditional Musics
>>64652627
Since this got no reply I'm assuming the tiers dont really mean anything?
literally just "how patrician I think x music is" with 0 basis in musicology
>>64652845
It is though
>>64652519
haha hampus you silly cuck
>>64652845
>higher form of art
Why are you assuming this is about quality?
>>64652566
>zeuhl and avant-prog now downgraded to Type II
You're just doing this to spite me aren't you?
>>64653045
okay, I looked it up and apparently the term does get some use. But I STRONGLY urge you to replace it with "East Asian Classical Music", because By using "Northeast Asian" you're talking about a subregion of a subregion - you're including Manchuria, Korea, and I guess Mongolia (weird, since it's directly under North Asia), while excluding most of China. Then you pick things back up with Southeast Asia, which refers to Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Myanmar, and so on. The term East Asia is broad - it is used in reference to China, Korea, Mongolia, and Japan as a whole. You don't need to use "Northeast" to differentiate from "Southeast" - East Asia and Southeast Asia are already known as separate regions.
>>64652566
this would be a pretty cool image/idea if people didn't use it to validate themselves
>>64653154
I'll do this, even though I have always referred to China and everything east of it as north east asia.
>>64653197
But that's the best part!
Where is futurism on here?
>>64653242
nah. and dark ambient below industrial? come on now.
>>64652566
me on the left
>>64653258
Disappeared apparently. Looks like it isn't a genre anymore according to Hampus
>>64653308
no
that's me on the left
>>64652480
what is "elektronische musik" supposed to be? it's just german for "electronic music" and why is it type II??
>>64653313
I believe it refers to the Progressive Electronic parts of Krautrock
>>64653312
>genre
nowhere on the chart it says that
>>64653313
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#Elektronische_Musik
>>64653258
Readded in next revision.
>>64652566
What the fuck is "W"? It's Type-I.
>>64653343
thx, for us germans "elektronische musik" is just everything that is electronic.
>>64653153
shut the fuck up you friendless retard, nobody cares about you or what you think.
Go back to your pedo pictures
>>64653359
A misstype.
>>64653384
Have a (You)
Going to the gym after I shit and brush my teeth, keep bumping this with suggestions and I'll update when I get home.
>>64653432
Broken beat.
>>64653432
No thanks, I don't care about your pretentious, senseless chart.
>>64652480
>art punk is type II
why
>blues rock type 0
it should be type I
>turntable music is type III
holy why, bump it down
Dammit, with that pyramid and that background, I thought that was the cover for a new Enigma album.
And now I'm sad, since there's not one.
>>64653600
turntablism deserves to be high honestly
>>64653600
blues rock is just about the most accessible music ever. it's literally the first "i don't like the radio anymore" genre people get into. i'm not knocking it either but it belongs in tier 0.
>>64653749
>Turntabalism is type I
>"Turntable music" is type III
what does it even mean
>>64652480
Nah this one is better
>>64652480
What tier is djent?
>>64653820
Same tier as prog metal
>>64653791
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Turntable+Music/
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Turntablism/
>>64653820
shit tier
Hampus Hampus va inte sån beta cunt...
>>64653946
är hampus svensk? nämen, ser man på! vilken överraskning? va, så här efter himmelsfärd. de ä inte varje dag.
>>64653881
sorry, definitely didn't know what I was talking about
>>64652480
>north european traditional music type 0
care to explain this?
>>64654026
it's really bad naming desu
>>64653797
Yes.
>>64654069
he's a swede, ofc his cuck ass is going to put any and all types of traditional music over European one for some arbitrary reason.
>>64654615
>racists expect white music to get a pedestal
lmao
>>64655148
*pedal stool
>>64653797
sure my man
Anyone above Type-1 is a fedora faggot
>>64655182
dont be such a damp squid
>post punk and glitch in tier 3
>some of the most plebe music known to man
>>64652480
What does the vertical axis mean precisely ?
>>64652480
Are you implying that you need to Enjoy that genres on the base?
Do you idiots even know how a piramid work??? lmao dumb hampus
>>64655633
Why are you assuming this is a pleb/patrician meme pyramid?
>>64652480
Post Punk should be tier 0
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD make math rock tier 1, wtf
>>64652480
i love Xenharmniscim music.
find it very fun to listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulxw9G5mdM4
>the genre i like its not even there
>Xenharmonicism is level 5
>Microsounds are level 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hMgCLfeJVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnyF9jq-ykY
I guess Björk is a level 4 and Deerhoof is a level 5 then
>>64655908
i agree.
Xenharmonicism is actually pretty accessible
>>64655843
Which would that be?
>>64656222
Bubblegum Pop
Danger Music is still stupid. Any music can be/not be danger music.
>>64656254
>Sorry, sir, Strawberry Switchblade is off the charts.
>>64656254
Added.
>>64656279
>Any music can be/not be danger music.
But it's not.
>>64656300
the danger element isn't music
>inb4 some gay philosophical "deep" comment about how it is
>>64656313
That's like saying the silence isn't music. We're about 80 years past that kind of mindset by now. Try to keep up.
>>64656329
ok
i just composed danger music
go listen to Yeezus but do it while sawing your penis off ©
this is my original composition pls do not steal ©
why am i bothering, people like you are impossible
>>64656377
That's not how it works.
on the subject of avant garde, what is it called when the song is performed live and has a random element thrown into it? Like, the artist isn't sure of what notes will be played by a certain machine or mechanism?
I think there was a name for this.
>>64656396
it’s sound arranged for the purpose of art
>danger music
What?
>>64656549
Okay looked it up, it's just wank.
>>64656465
Aleatoricism?
>>64656668
yes, that must be it.
such an easy name too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleatoricism
>>64652601
wait is that what hampus looks like?
who is that
>>64655633
ugh stop teasing me with that cap...
>>64652480
>>64652566
Oh damn you actually delivered
Nice one OP
where is big-step
>>64652566
>Honestly listening to anything above Type 1
>>64656465
sporkcore
>>64652566
>carnatic music under hindustani classical music
why
>Sonorism, Aleatoricism, Indeterminancy still in Type-V
I'll never understand how people justify this.
the top 2 and bottom two types are equally bad.
type 2 and 3 have the good stuff
>>64658292
because this ranking isn't about quality
>>64658470
but like they aren't more inaccessible at all
>>64658792
Bottom row is ''normies''
Next row is ''babbies first interest in music''
Next row is ''I am sooooo into music xD''
Etc
>>64652566
nobody listens to type-v
>>64658830
are you going to tell me the people who are "actually" interested in music listen to aleatoric music
because that's fucking stupid.
do you know what those ism's mean? Serialism should replace one or more of them
>>64658870
>nobody listens to Ferneyhough, John Cage, Morton Feldman, or Giacinto Scelsi
All of them are pleb save Ferneyhough, but you're an idiot.
>>64652480
>turntable music
>avant-garde jazz
>type III
hahaha
I remember back when I thought serialism and aleatoric music were cool. Now I just listen to The Beatles.
>>64658889
pshhhh... Ferneyhough isn't better than Cage. I like him though. But his work is definitely less memorable and important than the best things Cage made.
Thinking "xenharmonicism" is a higher tier than the Beethoven Piano Sonatas, Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, Mozart's last symphonies, Beethoven symphonies, Stravinsky.... etc...
is pure stupidity!
Hampus explain Fucking danger music.
>>64659034
>copying from youtube comments
creative bait/10
>>64658949
The point is that Cage's music is incredibly accessible, Ferneyhough and Holliger's is not.
>>64659047
music that is inherently dangerous to perform
which is like, regular music, except i guess you're also shooting yourself with a gun during the bridge
>>64659055
actually I'm just being a faggot
my B!
I'm digging xenharmonicism... I wonder how to write this kind of music
what in the ever-loving fuck is "sacred minimalism"
>>64652566
What countries do you include in East European music?
>>64659187
you are such a fucking pleb
>>64659187
Holy minimalism, mystic minimalism, spiritual minimalism, or sacred minimalism are terms used to describe the musical works of a number of late-twentieth-century composers of Western classical music. The compositions are distinguished by a minimalist compositional aesthetic and a distinctly religious or mystical subject focus.
Examples:
Arvo Pärt
John Tavener
Henryk Górecki
Pēteris Vasks
>>64658910
I bet you think turntable music is the hip hop kind
>>64659203
no, im just not pretentious. apparently not even the composers grouped in with "sacred minimalism" like the term
>>64659271
What's so pretentious about the term?
>>64659271
>no, im just not pretentious
Read: I don't know basic ism's from the 20th century.
Sure kid, go back to pleddit.
>>64659047
Hanatarash
>>64652480
hampus is not a real person
>>64659361
how do you know?
>>64659281
look i will admit i didnt think it was a concretely defined term. it sounded retarded before i learned what it was. i just hate when people get so anal about music genres. ive been playing music for 14 years and a knowledge of what makes breakbeat different from drum and bass has never been particularly useful
>>64659290
>basic
its fairly niche anon. theres not many examples of composers in the style
>>64659400
>its fairly niche anon.
>Arvo Part is fairly niche
Kill yourself.
>>64659467
i said the style is. ive got a couple of cds of arvos work, and i dont listen to them anymore. not my thing at all
>>64659596
that was the wrong picture... oh well
>>64659596
Are you actually classically educated, yet don't know sacred/holy minimalism?
>>64659659
self educated, so no, but ive got a decent amount of experience. i listen to the jazz more nowadays
>>64659786
Fair enough. Now I'm just interested in your story haha.
Are you a successful musician or something?
>>64659862
no story. i played in some bands back in the early 2000s and we had localized success but i am a kitchen manager at a local (fancy) restaurant and that commands my full attention. i also own the single worst dvd collection ever. i think its funny that shrek 1-3 shares a shelf with verdi's messa da requiem
i also type with on screen keyboard cause im in bed
holy shit i'm getting the fuck out of here, what the fuck /mu/ is the worst board
>>64652493
>>64652504
you misunderstand the secret level
pleb
Why would it even matter what "Type" you are? It is fucking ridiculous and elitist to assume because you listen to avant-garde jazz that a guy who is a die-hard metal fan is inferior to you. It just means you like different genres of music. That's it. You aren't superior or better, you just know different stuff.
>>64659224
beat kondukta series sounding?
