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>>64572595
good production m8. what's your sc?
Stupid question I guess, but if I wanted to add a Radiohead-like drum beat to a song in Logic how would I go about getting good sounds? I know how to program beats well it's just that I wonder how a lot of artists actually get the patches. Stock sounds are too cheesy. Do you just take a random piece of audio and run it through filters and shit to get a desired click or boom?
>>64572758
if you want good drums there are a few good pieces of software
superior drummer is one of them
you need to learn how to eq and process drums properly though if you want to make them sound personal
>>64572885
ah, sorry i meant electronic (idm) drum beat... i have a miced real drumset haha
Fragments & ideas:
https://clyp.it/ne0hsa4n
https://clyp.it/ymgyaco1
https://clyp.it/lklrraec
https://clyp.it/ikqw0bah
The only thing I've ever finished:
https://clyp.it/xr2h3h2d (skip to 1:26 for non-cancerous edition)
t h o t s ?
>>64572929
if you want to learn how to program idm drums, just listen to a song you want to copy and try to replicate the rhythm of each element in your daw
What's the, for lack of a better term, "newest" genre in electronic music that isn't complete poppy shite?
I'm dicking about making stuff from all across the board and I need to find something and stick with it so I can hone my skills properly.
>>64572758
pretty much, or sample clicks and booms from tunes you like or random youtube recordings or recordings from anywhere really
or try making your own using synths
https://clyp.it/jvearndw
is this boring ? what do you feel about it /prod/?
>>64573336
That's a nice little tune, reminds me of a lot of the Moog stuff that was happening in the 70s. That synth at the very beginning is a bit plain though, I'd try to spice up the programming a bit.
>>64573433
thanks, I think the intro pad also has a boring chord progression that isn't really gelling with the melody, so that maybe also makes it seem plain
>>64572758
>get D16 vsts
>run through a few of those, particularly bit crusher
>>64573171
Drone is best
>>64573542
I like me some drone, but I love drums and acid bass too much to delve straight into it. I should say I've been making a lot of acid, idm and dnb. There just doesn't seem to be a natural progression of these genres in today's world, at least one I can find.
>>64573629
Beatport has a lot of future or deep house. They're the most popular. I don't know enough to know the difference.
http://edmprod.com/beatport-analysis/
>>64573655
Oh that article was nearly a year ago
>>64573655
>>64573666
The thing is those genres are old but have are having a resurgence. I want something completely new, if you understand what I'm meaning.
Also nice digits, dude, fuckin checked.
>>64573771
You can invent a new genre, and put house after after the name
>>64573785
kek
I feel like we've hit a dead end. Vaporwave seemed to be the last desperate attempt at something new and it didn't really lead anywhere.
Been obsessed with this niggers voice.
https://clyp.it/flbxalkc
https://clyp.it/0lwyhs54
Thoughts and feedback appreciated <3
>>64573850
this is awful lol
>>64573869
>mfw millions of man hours wasted on composing yet another derivative 12-EDO "tune"
>mfw DAW manufacturers are complacent by not adding _proper_ support for microtonal composition to their pleb software
>mfw the unwashed masses are drowning in a deluge of pleb music
>>64574111
based trips
>tfw the world is full of social media outlets and contests for amateur nature and travel photographers to be featured (nat geo, discovery, etc etc) but none of them accept field recording submissions
I need my big break /praud/
>>64574111
>still being an autistic fag who needs to be different
>still too stupid to code it himself
>>64573942
Kek
>>64573336
Pretty cool, could maybe use some really gentle drums halfway through. Chill track though.
>>64576206
You could put them on the youtube with relaxing in the title and monetise views
>>64573850
The beats work for the genre but please god find a better rapper
>>64576794
actually they're on the ütube, although "relaxing" isn't in the titles but it is one of the search terms. Getting normal youtube traffic really is fine, but it's slower'n horsecocks. an endorsement from one of the big companies would be breddy cool. in the meantime i spose i should keep upping my game
>>64576872
Why do you do field recordings?
>>64573171
Check out whatever is fresh in /bleep/
should i get the aka rhythm wolf or tom cat?
>>64577125
Neither, they're both awful. Save a bit more money.
>>64577140
I'm literally only considering them for convenience of money, I found an MC-909 on criaglist for 480, what do you think of that?
>>64576927
I just love sound and love capturing the sound of places. Sometimes it's obvious if a place sounds interesting but often it isn't. So much more comes to life in a sound recording than you thought was going on when you were there. We're so visually biased and so easily distracted that recording just the sound ends-up being this magical revisiting. I always hear shit later that I was never aware of when I was there. It's a pretty cool activity in that respect. Plus the way it tickles your memorya nd subconscious is very cool as well. It's like capturing the smell of a place where you immediatey recall the place and the feeling. In our brains it works completely differently than photos/visuals do.
I've found that even just in my hometown recording the wildlife or weather really surprises people. You take for granted all the things going on around you because it's pretty much regular and daily, but when you extract just an audio recording it becomes suddenly interesting, and beautiful, and weirdly exotic.
https://clyp.it/ikoovoa0
>mfw /pol/ is so autistic they can't not talk about politics in places where nobody cares about them
>>64577473
wat
>>64577521
The op pic/edition
They're incapable of staying in their containment board
Hey mates,
I was thinking abut buying my first synth, i was between Minibrute and the Microbrute, but recently a friend told me he was selling a Korg MS-20 Mini for the same price of the MicroBrute. Cop or not?
>>64577706
I'd go for it, seems more capable
engineering question
How do you guys choose to do your submix?
can't decide if i should keep drums as one channel, or split the kick and snare off...
>>64578774
split them and then bus them :^)
>>64573810
Well,
Since you're looking for something new, we don't know it yet.
As a rule of a thumb "new" genres are always something that evolved from something, or genre X with an Y twist,
>>64573810
>vaporwave
>something new
What DAW's the easiest to learn? I've used FL studio before but I only like it for using VSTs and making drum loops.
>>64580194
I've worked with cubase, logic, reason, FL studio and ableton live
ableton live is the easiest and most intuitive for me
>>64580559
I'll try ableton then, is it easy to find cracks for it? I feel kinda bad but I'm also pretty broke and don't wanna spend like $300 if I like it
>>64580641
obsly...its a daw
>>64580641
yeah you can find it right on tpb
https://clyp.it/qnxyraud
How'd I do /prod/?
>>64580662
>>64580689
doyyyy
>>64580736
groovy man
I'm still pretty new to producing so I can't give the best advice, maybe smooth out the transitions/add a little compression to the synths, and for the drums either make them feel heavier or look up the haas effect and try doing that. The song itself is pretty good tho, it has an aphex twin/boards of canada vibe to it
what is the best drum machine/sequencer/looping plugin that works with logic or ableton? i want something like a software version of the elektron machinedrum. i want to loop things easily to play along to/
>>64581285
what's wrong with ableton's drum rack?
do you not have samples?
if you're looking for organic sounding kits that are reasonably versatile get addictive drums
>>64580873
https://clyp.it/jixyums2
do you think this smooths the transition a bit?
>>64580736
Pretty nice, I would say bring that synth back about 1 or 2db in the mid-highmids.
>>64581400
Not the same person, but I don't have many... can you recommend some?
>>64581948
If you're tight for cash and still want some good quality stuff check out splice.com, they have some cool sounds and it runs off a per month fee thats relatively cheap and you can cancel anytime.
>>64581948
just use torrents..you can get anything you want
are you looking for something more organic or electronic sounding?
>>64581917
which synth?
the on that fades in in the beginning?
I've never made a dance/groove track before where the song doesn't sound as important as the kick+snare.
Is there anything wrong with sending all my song tracks to a bus and then just compressing+sidechaining that bus to some drum tracks? Is that how it's usually done in vaporwave?
https://clyp.it/wzcec3gr Is what I came up with. kick is not EQ'd, did this in a rush to see if it works.
Also if anyone has any REAL vaporwave tutorials that'd be helpful, they're usually all just joke videos.
Is it a bit more interesting senpai-sama?
I just want you to notice me.
https://clyp.it/msh3cmb0
>tfw you have 9 followers on soundcloud and all your followers have more followers than you
>>64581771
>https://clyp.it/jixyums2
fosho fosho foe-show
>>64582600
I wouldn't say that is wrong, but you might lose some clarity in some aspects of the song you wouldn't want to.
>>64582656
I know them feels
I only make shitty music tho so I guess it makes sense, but if your shit's actually alright just post it more on social media so your friends might be like "dawww hes a musician I'll give him a follow"
>tfw beats kids who dont even make music and just repost other peoples songs have more followers than me because soundcloud is turning into another form of social media
>>64582600
Isn't Vaporwave just Muzak pitched down.
>>64582215
The main one that comes in about a quarter of the way through. You can hear it cuts through just slightly too much, not 100% on the exact frequency but something is a bit too forward with it. Just sweep for it, shouldn't take long.
>>64582621
Sounds groovy
>>64582700
maybe i could allocate different tracks to different busses and have two+ separate sidechains.. that sounds really messy though
>>64582750
yeah, i think i meant to say future funk? stuff like this where it's post processed and a poweful 4on the flour track added
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fDiGdc8ZqE
How'd I do guys?
https://clyp.it/e2pjdn4u
>>64583110
Sounds really nice!
Not really feeling the off notes.
And it's a little too long.
But not bad at all.
>>64582770
I'm sorry I don't mean to be so difficult but do you mean the fluttery one or the slow wavey one?
>>64583454
Listen and figure it out. The one that stands out when you listen with a critical ear is the one you change. Try on different monitors/headphones. Mixing is a process that takes a long time to get right.
>>64582885
That is the most logical solution I guess, You might want different ducking for different frequencies
>>64583319
It's generated in max so I don't get to choose the notes. I wrote a 3 part MIDI arpeggiator then just feed it to 3 synths and hit record on the tape.
am happy to share the patch is anyone has max runtime.
>>64577597
>implying /mu/ isn't a containment board for reddit/tumblr transplants
You people are literally no better than /tv/ or /soc/
>>64584397
>no better than /tv/ or /soc/
this is true but that's still a lot better than /pawl/
>>64583609
ducking? Is that basically hi/lo passing whatever busses I set my tracks to? or is that a sidechaining option?
>>64577597
>>64577473
quit fucking crying already
>>64584784
Ducking in simplest terms is when a certain piece of audio reduces the level of another piece of audio. This can take many different forms. Most sidechaining methods could be considered ducking.
>>64582600
>Is there anything wrong with sending all my song tracks to a bus and then just compressing+sidechaining that bus to some drum tracks? Is that how it's usually done in vaporwave?
Vaporwave especially, and mostly any other electronic genre, is pretty unconventional with the way the mixing is done. Take the approach that sounds the best to you because no one really fucking cares. If it sounds good, it is good.
>>64577597
>>64577473
>>64584397
>>64584495
>>64584843
>>>/trash/
anybody here used the Korg TAKTILE25 midi controller?
how is it? how are the pads?
looking to cop it used at $120
>>64585246
go to reddit if you want a safespace
>>64585150
>no one really fucking cares. If it sounds good, it is good.
good advice, thank you
https://clyp.it/t4nilrun
mixing issues aside, what do you think of this weird dark hip hop beat
>>64585246
>>64585311
There are safespaces then there are dedicated generals that are usually free from this sort of relentless shitposting. Fuck off. Some of us are trying to talk about production.
>>64585570
haha sure thing
we were talking about production but then you came in and started crying because a picture hurts your feelings
kill yourself
>>64577473
>>64577597
>>64585311
>>64585273
This is my current controller since I'm fairly low on cash currently. Picked it up new for $250. The keys have a nice response, the pads could be slightly more sensitive but they get the job done. Arpeggiator has an excellent number of presets and the ability to use it as a control surface CAN be useful (although honestly if you have it set up near your keyboard/mouse you'll never need to). Would definitely recommend.
You will never ever use the touchpad, don't even try.
>>64585618
Except I'm not even that guy. I'm trying to help people out with production and audio and you're bringing issues which aren't relevant to the thread for no reason. Just drop it and leave.
>>64585722
i hate touchscreen gear this peice of shit came with cubase and it is so bad i dont even use it
>>64585761
muh safe space
l-leave
no fuck you
>>64585722
>You will never ever use the touchpad, don't even try.
could you elaborate a bit? because it's shit or because you think touchpads are shit?
>>64585767
can you send that to me for free tho?
i would find good use for it anon.
>>64585767
lmfao that looks so cancerous
>>64585792
Not once have I said its a safespace. I want to talk about production and you're just going on and on about non-relevant issues. I'm telling you to leave because /pol/ and /b/ have no place ruining perfectly good threads with the need to jam their views down everyone's throats.
>>64585812
no it would cost me to send it lol
>>64585823
it seriously sucks though and it isnt that responsive like you wil lose touch on it
they actually discontonied this whole line of cotnrollers
>>64585848
BOO-HOO
>>64585848
This whole thing started because you brought up the OP and started being a whiny little bitch about shit you made up in your head. Stop being a fag, get the fuck over it, and talk about /prod/ or leave.
>>64585875
i'll cover that cost if you actually send it tho. i'm not an asshole, just pretty broke aye.
>>64585848
>>64585794
Because its shit (not very responsive, feels almost grainy in movement) and if you have a mouse on your desk its not much effort to move your hand and actually be able to manipulate your DAW.
>>64585390
tfw everyone is argung and not listening to my track
I still only have one bus to send all non-drum instruments but all the fx busses go straight into the main stereo out so they're not side chained.
Anyone have any suggestions on diversifying it a little? I'm thinking of adding a picky guitar chord to add to the parts with no melody. might fit well with the slap bass
https://clyp.it/ur3glbsb
>>64586542
Sounds more like some sort of dark ambience than hiphop honestly. The drums are far too far back and filtered for the listener/vocalist to lock onto; rhythm is a huge part of rap. I honestly don't very much like this type of music and so don't listen to it but in my objective opinion it lacks drive or something pushing the song forward. Experiment with being more gentle with the FX, bring the drums forward.
>>64586590
Not sure it needs it, the mix sounds pretty full already. Maybe play with some more automation on your synths.
>>64586590
why do you only have one bus for non-drum sounds?
Try changing up the entire melody during that final break down before it ends and let that be the bridge and come back in with the original chorus.
mix is fresh af
what type of mastering/comp plugins are you using?
>>64587038
If anything I'd put one other instrument track during a breakdown to mix it up a little bit.. we'll see what happens.
>>64587126
i don't normally make music this way so i'm just being a noob. Also it's gonna be meant to loop and yeah, i'll probably change up melodies a good bit until they sound right.
only plugins i'm using on my instrument bus is Logic's in house compressor. I haven't even compressed the drums yet lmao, just a little EQ
does anyone have an ableton crack that actually works? all the ones I've found make you take surveys and shit, which only lead to more surveys
and dont tell me to just buy it cus im a broke ass college kid and i'll probably pay for it anyway when i actually have money
>>64582077
both.... i make hip hop but also like stuff like techno so i would want to have a versatile collection
>>64587490
Try FL if you're broke and really set on it, easier to find cracks for it and more beginner friendly in my opinion.
>>64587612
I've used it, not really my thing. I only really use it for VSTs anymore
sup /prod/.
I'm new to this game, but kind of have to get into it since I'm making a game and will need to produce some music at some point. probably hitting for something similar to DJ Deckstream.
Friend recommended me this. Is this decent?
http://www.amazon.com/Akai-Professional-LPK25-Ultra-Portable-Controller/dp/B002M8GBDI
>>64587498
well i like vengeance minimal house a lot
it's not as wacky and distorted as a lot of the vengeance packs tend to be
dr lukes sample pack has a nice variety of organic and electronic
the vst addictive drums is great for organic drums
samplephonics boom bap beats is one of my go to packs for hip hop
or you could also just search for drum breaks
>>64587874
It's ok, honestly if you've never really done this sort of thing before and are doing it simply to improve something else you're better off paying someone else or approaching small soundcloud profiles to use their stuff. Anything that sounds amateur will stand out.
>>64587988
True. I have people that are already up to helping for literally nothing. This is a long project anyways, but I think I would still probably end up providing them the tools anyways so it'll probably be a fine purchase either way. Just want to make sure it's not too bad, or if there's a better alternatives. Thanks.
>>64588066
One quick piece of advice. Most people in the production/music line of work that are going to produce anything of quality already have their own software/gear they're comfortable using. If you're tight on money hold onto it and use it to actually pay the people you get to help you.
>>64587874
Jesus fuck please don't buy that overpriced china made toy.
http://www.amazon.com/Akai-Professional-MPK-MKII-Ultra-Portable/dp/B00IJ6QAO2/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1462404775&sr=1-1&keywords=akai+midi+controller
If you're going to waste money on a shitty controller, might as well get one that's actually functional.
>>64588400
this is still pretty shitty though and probably not worth it i would wait and get something better honestly
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but saw this in a bandcamp thread and liked it. Does anyone know how to get bass to sound like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6blMskl-Dg&feature=youtu.be
>>64588504
>>64588400
Any other suggestions then? I'de rather not scrunge for one over 100$s right now, which it why the 64$ one wasn't too much o a bust for me atm. But if it's a matter of that thenI can just not bother with one for now.
Do I need piano or guitar lessons to make good melodies? I feel like my rhythm and sound design is coming along but I can't bust out a banger melody. What has helped you guys with making melodies, or is it really just "plug in notes until it sounds good"?
>>64589461
the only thing i see wrong with it are the keys are synth action so they are alot lighter
i really prefer semiweighted because its easier for me to control the velocities how i want
that keyboard would work honestly though i just dont prefer it
>>64589918
i would learn scales and chords and circle of fifths it would help you out alot
Hello /prod/. I want to make music. I have a nice guitar, a nice amp, some pedals, a decent mic, monitoring headphones, Ableton Live 9 (which I haven't any idea how to use properly), and a powerful computer. What should I do?
>>64590429
send it all to my house
>>64590532
this
its the only way
>>64590532
>>64590644
ur2 cheeky m88
>>64590897
you should read the manual and learn how to set up all your gear honestly
the ableton manual is pretty good and it also has built in lessons from the menu bar its called help view
Hey guys,i'm looking for help.
I'm trying to record an acoustic guitar trough my samson c03u using my focusrite 2i2 as my output and the latency is freaking me out,it's there any other plugin besides asio4all that can help me with this?
i'm using cubase btw
>>64590992
>focusrite 2i2
have you tried the focusrite asio drivers or adjusting the latency in asio4all
Ok I just got ableton live.. What are some essential free vst's for it? Also what would be the best first purchase for a complete newbie? (not including headphones)
>>64590429
>What should I do?
Well you're going to have to plug in your guitar to something. You could go direct into an interface or you could mic your amp.
After this you'll have to open Abelton and create an audio track, and enable monitoring. Make sure everything is hooked up properly.
The next step I'd suggest, is to use some type of method to strum the guitar's strings. You could you a number of different things but I've seen razorblades get the best results.
After that's all set up, you may want to use those headphones to hear what you're playing. But then I think you're all set! Have fun!
>>64591061
yes,but i can't select the usb mic as an input when using the focusrite asio drivers and i didn't have any luck with adjusting the latency either
>>64591135
Everything is free
>>64591280
yeah I know but I dont even know what to look for...
>>64586992
okay man, i agree, thanks
>>64591459
I like it anon
>>64591235
you need to use a regular microphone in the interface to use the asio driver
>>64591300
there are some good actual free ware synths too
>>64591300
i like uhe tyrell n6 its a pretty good subtractive synth
you can go on places like kvr audio and there are searchable freeware synths/effects listed there
>>64591576
you mean like a xlr mic?
>>64591608
yea the one that fits into the ports on the interface
>>64591135
i have been producing on ableton for 2 years and havent purchased a damn thing except a midi cable for a midi keyboard i found at the dump. i personally dont use VSTs but have a mixtape coming out with a rapper signed on an indie label. hope this helps
>>64591737
do you have the suite version ?
>>64591561
thanks are you the guy who responded to me with advice about bringing down FX and bringing out the rhythm? if so thanks again cuz its solid advice
>>64591756
yes
i produce all my shit on shitty headphones and mix it at a friends studio
welcome to {current year}
>>64591737
mkay so yeah I was thinking a midi keyboard should be the first thing to get.. any /prod/ recommendations?
>>64591766
nah, it was me
>>64591803
i have suite version also and i think its got great instruments
i think analog is a kind of weak synth but everything else is great
>>64591812
it was u or it wasnt u? whaat?
it doesnt really matter dude like if it has keys it will be fine. you dont even really need one. what do you want to make
>>64591832
instruments are gay just download samples from youtube.com my nigga
Currently looking to do some story readings, but am unsure on what aspects of the raw audio I should focus on tweaking to make my nasally as fuck voice less harsh and more appealing. Here's a small clip of raw audio.
https://clyp.it/bq43g4wv
I use Audacity to do my audio editing if that helps. Also apologies if I posted this in the wrong board, just thought that this would be the best place to come for feedback.
>>64591896
>instruments are gay
i dont think so really
you can synthesize alot of the sounds you download samples of if you learn
>>64591949
this doesn't sound bad to me anon. one thing you can do is use an EQ to cut some mids, in your case i'd say a slight decrease (1-2dB) from 450Hz to like 1200Hz.
OR if you wanna be a real fantsy pance find the exact frequencies within that range that resonate a bit much and notch them out with a narrow parametric EQ
>>64591965
im being facetious
>>64592242
to be fair learning synthesis WAS gay i hated it for the longest time
>>64592044
Gave that a try, definitely not as harsh, thanks for the tip!
>>64592373
if you don't mind me acksin what mic you using?
what is the Y vector measuring in a vector scope?
guys how do I get better at EQ? everything i make sounds like it's playing through a tube. maybe i'm being too extreme with my filters. example (turn speakers all the way up):
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0NKPg3e9vp6
>>64592532
Whatever is attached to a Turtle Beach Earforce X11. However, I also borrow a CAD u37 usb Mic from a friend at times.
>>64593494
i think this actually sounds decent as an intro into something with more bass
it has a creepy tripped out vibe imo
>>64593494
>guys how do I get better at EQ?
Same way you get better at anything
Practice, practice, practice, practice.
