Why is it that "electronic music" (or rather all of it's branches), has hit a stop? I feel like there was more and more progression, then it just stopped in the 2010s.
Can you really say that Garden of Delete is progressive electronic, or could you say it is progressing anything at all other than banal middle of the road bullshit?
my dick is progressing to your moms ass
>>64560145
OPN has falling off
but nah electronic music is still progressing
just checkout anyone on here http://p-a-n.org/releases/
>>64560145
I didn't like garden of delete because it felt like it was a step back from his previous and more daring material (R+7, Replica).
While there is emerging electronic artists pushing the boundaries of the genre, they aren't talked about very much on /mu/. If you're looking for something that will challenge you when you listen to it, try pic related. Just came out this year, and it's really good.
>>64560145
Of all the ''''electronic music''''' in existence, do you think OPN represents ALL of it and this is the most important and crucial album to summize its 80 years history today?
>>64560262
Which genre?
>>64560276
There are many examples, just check rym's charts and you can find the artists heralded by the users aren't doing much (excluding maybe Arca?)
it's still going strong LAD
juke/footwork atm has been progressing at a rapid rate over the past 5 years
>>64560331
>rym's charts
lmao
You really have such a limited scope of what falls under the unfathomably varied umbrella of electronically produced music.
nah electronic music is still well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYzpBoxa-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXRJ3V7kFL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnBhoIb90i0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BegWmx9kc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLxDbyCHRlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIe-WBK-VY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3omOZmbi8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArsUen07n9g
Find a flaw.
>>64560373
Feels too normal, but that's probably just me
>>64560469
Muh IDM
>>64560373
Most of that sounds like borderline EDM. Fuck off.
>>64560440
Luxury Problems isn't flawless. If there's one flawless Andy Stott album it's We Stay Together.
>>64560372
I was using an example, just a little idea of what people think "changes" things.
>>64560485
IDM is too normal as well, I want something that is fucking groundbreaking
>USA can't into electronic music the thread
>>64560515
Hampus Gronvall - Magenta Circuit
>>64560547
>non-pardner unironically saying ''electronic music''
wew
>>64560547
I live in the UK, faggot
>>64560552
It's been in my backlog for a bit, but I'm interested now. What goes on in it?
>>64560492
>borderline EDM.
most of that is dance music but it aint EDM pard
Have you heard this OP?
>>64560145
GoD is his second best after Replica m8
Also is there anything actually good and that isn't just post-vaporwave meme shit that sounds like GoD? I really need some more shit that does the whole post-internet abstracted grunge + electronic thing well.
>>64560440
Tri Rep is far from Autechre's best album m8
>>64560570
how do you call it as a whole (if you mean everything from jungle to gabba)? "electro" ?
>>64560652
not him but if you're talking about dance genres that aren't just edm, dance
for all electronic genres electronic music is actually fine as an umbrella term
>>64560611
Half of GoD is incoherent, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even follow the concept people put on it.
>>64560652
If I really had to lump jungle to gabba together I'd say dance music.
Since ''electronic music'' is everything made with an instrument that has a plug from 40s Schaeffer through Kraftwerk, Faust, Kanye, Taylor to jungle and gabba, I wouldn't lump it altogether as thats retarded.
>>64560652
>>64560678
>for all electronic genres electronic music is actually fine as an umbrella term
Like string music for classical and jazz stringed instrument music, a few centuries of folk and rock, reggae, funk, soul and anything else using stringed instruments in a plethora of genres.
>>64560687
It really doesn't. Daniel had to clear up a lot of the narrative and thematic elements in his press/interview cycle.
>>64560603
It's pretty cool, though it still has melody
>>64560687
>people put on it
Have you tried watching the two music videos? I know a lot of people criticise Lopatin for extrapolating on so much of the meaning of his stuff outside of the albums themselves, but once you see those two videos what he was going for becomes a lot more apparent imo.
>>64560743
Yes, exactly. Both are logical terms for their uses, it just goes to show that using those terms is kinda dumb most of the time.
>>64560797
Why is melody bad?
what are you talking about, Daniel Lopatin, James Ferraro, Dean Blunt etc. are all progressing electronic music a ton and G.O.D. is a fantastic album, can you name anything else that sounds like it??
>>64560843
arca :^)
>>64560843
>Daniel Lopatin, James Ferraro, Dean Blunt
why are they always listed together i really dont get this only thing missing is arca
>>64560861
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>64560714
I live in a german speaking country so calling everything house, techno, trance, dnb and others "tanzmusik" (dance music) would sound wierd af. I just use "electro".
But you are right regarding the term electronic music.
Iglooghost is neat
>>64560838
I dunno, I feel like technical prowess needs to be first and foremost, making sure that any other real concept of music is left out of the process.
>>64560219
>OPN has falling off
GoD was his best album though...
>>64560885
But how often do you find yourself talking about Stockhausen, Kanye and Ben Klock at the same time anyway?
>>64560773
>>64560826
and the concept is...?
>>64560184
savage
>>64560912
I've listen to over and over. and I just can't see how
Ezra and intro is nice
but it really starts to piss me off when I bite through it just ends abruptly and the song after doesn't justify the ending.
I just don't see how anyone familiar with his work or even the current electro scene would consider GoD his best. I'm open to reasoning
>>64560885
Electro is it's own distinct category of dance music though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW6NJ_N3ZWQ
>>64561012
Whats he got to do with electro?
>>64560262
It sounds good but it's seriously nothing impressive dude. Just because it's "experimental" doesn't mean it's pushing boundaries.
>>64560262
OP here, will listen soon
The Knife was the best electronic duo out and now that they're gone everything else just feels boring.
>>64561005
It's basically a deconstruction of the popular rock and generic electronic sounds of the 90s and a deconstruction of 'coming of age' albums that conceptually exists in an odd cyberpunk world that the nerdy young teen who just got a computer and internet in the late 90s would fantasize about.
>>64560262
What is this like?
Probably because just about any shitstained autists can make electronic music regardless of their talents.
>>64561127
Like geetah music
>>64560879
>>64560861
>Arca
no, no, just no
he wants to be OPN so bad but he sucks
>>64561095
are you saying that without them your life is boring?
>>64560984
I meant the "dance music" genres that I listed. For example when I ask an acquaintance if they would want to go to a club with me without going all specific.
Maybe it's an evening where theres house first and then it goes all mad techno.
>>64561152
I was just completing their list anon
I think he has potential to be great but hasn't done much good stuff honestly. Also he doesn't sound like Lopatin (or Autechre) at all imo.
>>64561168
;-) yes
>>64561171
Well here in England, it would be dance music, not electro as thats a genre in its own right >>64561061 >>64561059
how does one get as good as OPN or ferraro etc... they seem to know their equipment so well is that just time and experience?
>>64561247
10,000 hours of practice
>>64561247
Yes. 0PN is like 30 years old. Just keep learning and making stuff and having fun and eventually you'll be good. And if you're creative enough you'll be highly regarded
>>64561247
just the right amout of high
>>64561247
also both of them had minimal equipment starting out. that helps also
IMO too many artist mess up and get a bunch of shit they don't need
>>64560908
Go away iglooghost
>>64561066
why do you want boundary pushing music so bad? is it so you can copy it and say you invented it?
>>64561616
See
>>64561089
I'm not him
>>64560908
hi iglooghost
>>64560908
hey, man. i pray you get in a car crash every time i remember to, which is just about every night, dude. enjoy life while you can, mate. i'm gonna hunt you down one day. count on it!
>>64561097
Just listen to it man
>>64561930
Just sampled it and it sounds like Iglooghost or somebody similar trying to recreate Arca's last album (and not in a good way)
I liked GoD musically, but the conceptual part really is all over the place and convoluted. I "got" it because I had watched the music videos before listening to the whole album. When you need the musician to clear out things in interviews or resort to a visual piece to get a better translation of its meaning that means the actual album didn't made it very clear. It's still very enjoyable, though.
not sure whats convoluted about GOD. seems like its his least philosophical. its all over the place in a fun way. what is this need for coherency all about mates?
ps everyone talks about Replica being the best one, the second half of that record is miscellaneous as fuck. get a grip bros
>>64560145
>it's a "/mu/ doesn't know shit about electronic music" thread
it's sad, really
Also OP, try Moderat III. It is basically a pop album with great and quite fresh production. I can see everyone ripping it off for the next 5 years.
>>64560373
great recs cheers
>>64562358
I don't want pop, read the thread.
I want something groundbreaking.
>>64562391
it is groundbreaking tho. it seems that you want new shit for the sake of new shit. you can always try making music yourself, it doesn't get more satisfying than that.
>>64560262
this is just a shitty version of m.e.s.h.
>>64562391
why?
Try this album OP. Really sold me on modern electronic music
>>64562423
I do make music, I don't want to post it in this thread though.
>>64562465
I hate the fact that lots of artists conform to the rhythms and the general style of normal electronic music when there is so much to do. I feel like people are so close to it yet they push it into the side rather than making it the full thing
>>64562698
You don't understand the cultural context within which electronic music exists.
Guitar music has infinite variations as well, but how many rock bands do you see that are breaking the walls of rhythm and style?
How many contemporary classical composers will tinker with melodies not directly influenced by the greats?
How many jazz artists are avant-garde, blowing apart prior expectations of what the genre can bring us?
What I'm seeing here is that you are totally new to electronic music as a phenomenon, and with no understanding of the cultural aspect of it expect every piece to be off the chain, unique, existing within its own bubble.
Like with every single genre out there, that's not how electronic music works.
>>64563343
I don't want all of it to be that, it would be great for it to be but i know it's not going to be.
Also, why should I care about the culture of it? Is it really that unfeasible to do something different?
>>64562698
>when there is so much to do
such as?
if you knew, you'd be making it, stupid faggot. you're literally no better than these conformists you're talking about except that you hate yourself.
>>64564186
>such as?
Are you fucking stupid? The coding for vsts is almost limitless at this point, if you know what you're doing.
I have made music yes, read the thread.
>>64560910
>making sure that any other real concept of music is left out of the process
>>64564400
you pathetic worm,
if you know, then why are you asking us? if you had any vision, you wouldn't be begging others to give you something to copy, you bottomfeeding, less than worthless filth.
>>64564458
What's wrong with that?
>>64564472
>you pathetic worm
lol
I'm at a place where I feel proud of what I do, but I'm just confused as to why people aren't doing different things. Just makes me wonder, calm down
>>64562248
wait what
the second half is superior to the first half
>>64564513
>what's wrong with that
I guess I don't even understand it?
>>64564513
>he thinks he's "different"
>>64564712
I'm not saying "I" am different.
I'm not sure how you can even interpret that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__QDYwQ-Vg8
RIP OP
