Why THE HELL were Gen-X musicians so whiny in the NINETIES of all decades? "Oh no; my stocks went up too much! There's too much prosperity!" Good God. Some people have REAL problems.
>>64336887
>Some people have REAL problems.
Exactly. Actual struggle means that people make uplifting music to cope. Likewise, when the emotional imbalance goes the other way, they have to tell themselves that they're lives suck in order to not feel guilty about their opulence.
>>64336887
>Some people have REAL problems.
Why, I couldn't agree more!
>>64336902
There's definitely something to that.
The one time I visited Haiti, the local music all seemed quite cheery. Even though the country itself looked pretty dismal.
>>64336902
This point makes more sense than it has the right to be
>>64336887
But in the nineties wasn't it the case that all the rich got richer and a load of working class got laid off? Or is that just what hippy lefties would have me believe - genuine question
>>64337212
Wage growth was a bit sluggish in the US, but people certainly weren't getting laid off - labor force participation hit its all-time high in the late-90's.
But it is kind of interesting how music from the great depression era had lots of upbeat jazz/swing/big-band kind of stuff.
>>64336887
yeah and all this money with nothing to spend it on
weed? illegal
whore? illegal
pellet gun to kill fucking pigeons and grackles shitting up my entire porch and dive bombing me everytime I go outside during the day?
illegal
>>64337326
pigeons remember faces
there's a good chance that they hate you
>>64336902
Yes and no. A lot of poor and suffering people make positive art and vice-versa, true, but bluesmen, for example, were mostly impoverished as fuck and made depressing music about how impoverished as fuck they were. Likewise, when an angsty artist makes it big they frequently can't summon the same darkness of their early work and either phone it in or go lighter. And then there's Layne Staley in OP's pic, whose addiction turned his life to shit even when his band was succesful. Really I think some people are just happy/miserable regardless of how well they're doing.
>>64337330
no grackles do and yes they do but they attacked me first
and even if pigeons do who cares they're just shitting everywhere
>>64337351
i like pigeons
never seen a grackle but i would probably like them too
i think maybe i'm biased, disregard me i suck bird cocks
>>64337383
>>64337383
and from my experience I insist that pigeons do not remember faces but they can still vaguely identify from memory. some other dick sucking retarded faggot that fucking feeds this things without any regard for how its affecting others like where these literal rats with wigs fucking roost and nest i.e. my fucking balcony
literally 30 pigeons swarm me everytime I walk by where he feeds them at a certain time of day if I'm just wearing a white button down shirt and look absolutely nothing like this paki cunt. Its kinda funny/cool when they do it but not really since I know what other affect their infestation is having.
Whiney is a stupid pejorative popularised by the right wing noise machine, to discredit people, like 'hippie.' You're a tard if you use it.
There are lots of reasons. Gen X didn't grow up as fast with no internet because there was still a mystery about people and everything, so they were still teens in their early twenties. Drugs and drinking also give you mood swings.
>>64337426
>rats with wigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWpX9RwrVU
that's life in the big city
there was a huge downturn in the early 90s following the 87 crash
that's when the uk was pumping out bands like happy mondays
it's not as clear cut as 'good music for bad times'
>>64337212
life is not just economics
there are more dimensions and more reasons to rebel
I'm tired of economists being perceived as some mumba-jumba know-all shamans
The first half of the 90s was a kind of droopy period when a recession was happening and Americans were also kind of lost and directionless with the Cold War over. Everyone was all like "Cool, we won! What now?" Also during Clinton's first term, people were really /x/-tier and didn't like or trust the government. It became cool to believe in conspiracy theories.
During Clinton's second term with the Dot Com Bubble happening, whiny music disappeared and got replaced by good-time fun stuff like Blink 182 and Britney Spears.
>>64337282
>But it is kind of interesting how music from the great depression era had lots of upbeat jazz/swing/big-band kind of stuff
It did and then it didn't. The Stock Market Crash caused the 20s jazz scene to go belly-up. Nobody wanted to party to hot jazz music when people were standing in soup lines so 1930-34 were a dark age when popular music in America was almost dead.
By mid-decade, the worst of the Depression was over and people began wanting to have fun again; this is when big band swing arrived.
>>64337503
>that's when the uk was pumping out bands like happy mondays
Europe on the whole was in a sunny, happy-days-are-here-again mood in the 90s because the Cold War was over and there was just this great feeling of relief that the terror of Soviet invasion was gone. While Americans were being all sullen and whiny, Yuropoors were having huge EDM warehouse raves and listening to Britpop.
>>64337998
This.
>>64337998
And some of it was just a deliberate "Do the opposite of what Americans are doing just because." attitude.
It is more than just economics because for example, the US and Britain both struggled with a shit, broken economy in the 70s yet our music was still basically fun-oriented stuff like Kiss and disco. One reason punk exploded is because British kids got tired of rich rock stars like the Rolling Stones showing off their limousines and mansions while the unions were striking every 2 seconds and trash was piling up in the streets.
When Kiss toured over in Britain, they were just seen as a joke. Brits weren't really in a party mood at that time.
>>64338258
Brits haven't been in a party mood since about 1997. Next party mood time when?
Gen Xer angst was kind of this thing...it was the crippling realization that they were never going to beat the boomers. In fact to this day they still hate boomers far far more than any Millenial could.
>>64338347
Ah, we're not doing that bad. The 21st century so far has been good to us all things considered. We've gradually gotten back some of the geopolitical and financial independence we lost in 1945 and the depression over the loss of the empire is gradually fading out with the older generation.
>>64338393
You can't be serious, have you been there lately? Everyone is angry and depressed, they're coming into a double-dip recession, music is worse than ever there, place is falling to bits...
>>64338366
It's the opposite here actually. We have few boomers (>implying people were having kids in 1945-55 when they were cleaning rubble and there was rationing) but many Gen Xers. The 60s were good times and babies were being squeezed out like bread.
>>64338426
A U S T E R I T Y
>>64338461
Considering how small the British postwar generation was compared to ours, they really poured forth the musical talent like rain.
>>64338426
Ignore the posh cunt.
>>64338515
We had talented blokes of course but of course we also had a giant American market to sell music to. Our own domestic music market was very much smaller than the US one and we couldn't rely on that alone.