Anything else worth listening to in electronic music? Just getting into the genre.
Post your favorite albums.
>Anything else worth listening to in electronic music?
No, literally nothing.
Also, Andy Stott (and most other artists who make "electronic" music with a dance bent) are mainly single/EP oriented
>>64291995
So I should delete his 3 albums then?
>>64292047
you should delete your life
>>64291949
Arca - &&&&&
>>64291949
>>64291995
>electronic music should only be listened to in EP/Single format
When will this meme end?
>>64292047
they said "mainly" and it's true
https://www.discogs.com/artist/317019-Andy-Stott
>>64292193
When /bleep/ gets nuked and all of it's posters are massacred.
>>64292193
Except that most of these sorts of producers do primarily release most of their music as 7" or 12" singles mate.
>>64292207
So I should never listen to an album by an electronic artist then? Even if they have produced them purposefully?
Speaking of Andy Stott, We Stay Together was his best release. Tribal, groovy and sinister as fuck.
changed my life
>>64292193
wew lad
https://youtu.be/JegDV3nmPXg
>>64292260
No, but often times an artists best work is not on one of their albums.
>>64292260
where did i or the other anon say that?? """electronic""" music - mainly dance - IS a genre that's built on the single/ep medium and it's where many of the producer's best work lies. that doesn't mean there aren't good dance albums, as there clearly are, but people on /mu/ don't seem interested in exploring alternative formats which are essential.
>>64292261
I'm enjoying Too Many Voices. How about you?
>>64292302
wew lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ey3EQVW3Ms
>>64291995
>>64292207
>>64292246
>>64292302
>>64292331
electronic music != dance music
Singles are literally released in promotion of the album you absolute faggots. There can be 3 to 4 or more singles released from each album. That's why the number of singles vastly outnumbers albums. It's like that for every artist.
>>64292339
Turns out I don't like electronic music.
>>64292339
yo what the fuck, didn't know he had something new out. How does it compare to his previous stuff.
>>64292355
Andy Stott is a DUB TECHNO artist, which is dance music, so >>64291995 was clarifying that for OP.
>>64292355
that's where people's minds generally go (and what people generally mean) when you use the incredibly vague and useless classification of "electronic music"
>>64292365
In dance music singles are more widespread than albums because it's much easier for an artist to release 2 tracks after he's done them instead of hoarding material for an album at the cost of making the the record label and the public wait.
>>64292355
wew pardner
https://youtu.be/XufTiL91Z5g
>>64292391
It came out yesterday. Better than Faith in Strangers imo but not as good as his EPs were.
Listen to it nevertheless.
>>64292422
>chav shit
>>64292426
>It came out yesterday.
Didn't even realize I was listening to a leak the whole time.
>>64292302
>>64292422
can you not
>>64292426
>Better than Faith in Strangers
Glad to hear that, faith in strangers was kinda weak.
>>64292426
>Listen to it nevertheless.
Don't do this. Its objectively pleb to listen to an album by an electronic dance music producer, ONLY listen to singles or EPs.
I fucking love Andy Stott, but man, I wish he knew that writing vocals and lyrics in the foreground is not his strong suit
>>64292365
are you daft lol?
that's not how it works in dance
>>64292419
not to mention the tracks are meant 4 club use and the single format is more convenient for djs
>>64292391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxX_jDW-FLs
>>64292432
>>64292446
>/mu/tants discuss "electronic music"
wew
https://youtu.be/6wOLcIUCT9o
>>64292480
wow i dont like this at all lol sounds pretty generic
>>64292475
Why do you listen to EPs and singles if you aren't a DJ?
Mixes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singles / EPs
>>64292464
But I'll admit Violence is fucking dope
I'm downloading the new album right now, can anybody tells me in advance if there are more melody driven tracks like faith in strangers/ hatch the plan?
>>64292422
wew lad, happycore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V531pRZRZvA
>>64292505
no really mate stop being such a /bleep/ freshman you're not being witty or original by posting "wew" followed by a youtube link
t. /bleep/ poster
>>64292461
this is so autistic
music quality doesn't go up or down depending on the release format
>>64292513
I do generally listen to mixes at home
![Wish_Upon_a_Blackstar_Standard_Edition_Cover_Art[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9EI5e2V.jpg "Wish_Upon_a_Blackstar_Standard_Edition_Cover_Art[1].jpg")
Is this electronic?
>>64292577
/r9k/ here we want to take over your general
>>64292572
tune
>>64292577
wew
https://youtu.be/kdFBByC1BCM
There is literally NO reason to hoard and listen to EP's and singles unless you're a DJ/mixer (or in /mu/'s case, a /bleep/ hipsteroid)
Albums are designed specifically for the average consumer
Mixes are designed specifically for the actual dance music fan
>>64292628
Do it, its a shit general anyway, has been for at least 2 years
>>64292675
wew thx lad
>>64292653
kys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCy45qFkbX8
>>64292626
Probably.
This is the album i use when i want to get lost in a competitive game and pretend i dont suck.
>>64291949
ODESZA is pretty cool.
https://youtu.be/PZvFFezMTOU
>not listening to albums
''''''''wew''''''''' /bleep/tards
>>64292666
eh, i dunno mate. i agree that mixes are more functional, but a lot of the times the b-sides on eps or singles aren't as dj friendly and don't tend to get put into mixes as much. i think you'd be missing out on a lot of good tunes if you just ignored all the eps. though i agree that people here go overboard with the hoarding.
imo, more modern dance producers need to take advantage of comps for this very reason.
>>64292666
Look at Digital Mystikz, mate. Released seminal dubstep single after seminal dubstep single, but their album? Decent at best.
>>64292426
Goddamn, the FLAC version is 520 MB.
>>64292711
mate at least post a chune
>>64292767
>>64292767
wew
https://youtu.be/tKts4HE53kI
>>64292711
>>64292422
>>64292505
>>64292572
>>64292653
>>64292711
this is all generic jungle shite
does /bleep/ really have taste this bad?
>>64292815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshX3_MgIZw
(it's shit but you can't stop me from liking it)
>>64292845
yes, never go there, it's a horrible place and you wouldn't like it at all
>>64292832
>>64292868
this is at least better than all of the other crap posted before it
>>64292870
>>64292845
>this is all generic jungle shite
Name some "proper" jungle then mate
anything other than hardbass is not as good as hardbass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frv3nEQcG4Q
also do drugs
>>64292937
mate it's hardcore
>>64292979
ignore the pard
Is /bleep/ the worst general on /mu/?
>muh shitty EDM is so superior
>much shitty DJs who press play are better than THOSE shitty DJs who press play because they're more obscure
>only listen to singles like a fucking normie pleb and always shit on the idea of albums
>actually dare to shit on people who listen to albums
>home to some of the most cancerous memes and shitposting on /mu/
Fuck these goddamn nerds. They're worse than most EDM "bros" because they've actually deluded themselves into thinking that their shitty music is any different from other EDM and try to act pretentious about it.
>>64293002
m8 you are not fooling anyone except maybe /mu/
>>64292779
>dubstep
fucking faggot music
>>64293002
howdy
>>64293002
listen to what you like mate, why would you let some memes dictate your taste
>>64292868
>>64292937
that is a tune though
>>64293033
>>64292870
>>64292832
>>64293033
>>64292767
i really don't know what you're trying to prove here mate. most people in /bleep/ would tell you these are great albums lol. the issue is all these producers put out some of their most seminal work on eps and singles (especially ur) and most people on /mu/ can't be bothered to dig into them due to some weird prejudice against those formats. they listen to the albums and then they're done.
most of the "there are no good dance albums!!' replies from /bleep/ are over-exaggerated and reactionary against the people on /mu/ who just want a chart of the essential albums without any intention of digging further.
>>64292815
>that
>not a tune
jerkoff jinglizt in charge of taste lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtSJHrpMA5g
>>64292979
I don't really listen to jungle that much, so I honestly couldn't give you a greater example
when it comes to electronic music I'm an ambient house kind of guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUljae56Mpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhaP-uMd0Kw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSuET6sjE6I&list=PLK5_UnXAc9t_H1CsgcRLHZ9kRqjQ0xB8C
>>64291995
>>64292331
>>64292461
>>64292513
>>64292666
oh my god lmao
if this isn't a late april fools' joke you should consider drinking bleach
>>64293104
You should tell them to fuck off asking for charts instead of saying there are no good albums because there obviously are.
As for /mu/ not delving further, they do that with even rock and memerap. Most won't even listen to Pablo Honey because they were told its pleb, its not exclusive to dance music, its just the /mu/ drone mentality.
jungle is literally overglorified vaporwave
>>64293186
vaporwave is literally memeified jungle
>>64292365
your pleb is showing
its clear you dont actually listen to dance music
>>64293138
okay but you posted an actual tune
>>64293186
wew
>>64293227
Looks like you didn't get the memo friend
Dance music is inherently pleb music, 'muh singles' are not going to make any difference
>>64293186
>>64293207
vaporjungle best jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-NIRMu4Bxg
>want to listen to non-danceable electronic music
>these plebs come out of nowhere to tell me this is not how you are supposed to listen to dance music, even though I'm not listening to dance music
WEW
E
W
>>64293276
all music is dance music
>>64293304
this x1000
delete /bleep/ and disembowel all /bleep/ posters
didn't take long for long this thread TO LIGHT THE FUCK UP
>>64293161
i disagree
>>64293185
/bleep/ isn't one person. a lot or people there don't even leave the general and believe me, many people get told to fuck off for asking for charts. i agree that /mu/ is shit about exploration with most genres, but they are at least open-minded about the medium, as most of the genres /mu/ are interested in are album-oriented.
charts were an okay idea in theory as they provide an entry-point, but they ultimately are detrimental as people become complacent and don't bother to dig any deeper.
>>64293304
maybe be more specific then? "electronic" is a super broad term and not an actual genre
>>64293276
well then you can fuck off right back to /mu/
>>64293338
>>64293304
The only people who shit up threads like this are /bleep/ newfags like Jerkoff Junglist and others who've lurked /bleep/ for less than a month and now consider themselves electronic music connoisseurs. Actual /bleep/men couldn't care less what /mu/ talks about or thinks of them.
>>64293390
I'm here already tho sorry I don't get you
>>64293304
>Andy Stott
>dub techno
>non-danceable music
Are ye daft?
>>64293427
>all dub techno is dance music
Did I miss on a new dank meme?
>>64293418
>The only people who shit up threads like this are /bleep/ newfags like Jerkoff Junglist and others who've lurked /bleep/ for less than a month and now consider themselves electronic music connoisseurs.
Sounds like the average /mu/tant who thinks they are a patrician and shit on r3ddit etc when all they did was swap Billboard for Pitchfork/Fantano.
Is this electronic music or dance music and what is electronic music?
>>64293513
who cares
>>64292285
this and pic related
Legend B - Strinx of Life
DJ Catzy - Atmosphere
Veracocha - Carte Blanche (Original Mix)
Tenth Planet - Ghosts
paul oakenfold - southern sun
Super8 & Tab - Suru
Alex MORPH & Rank 1 - Life Less Ordinary
Pervading Call - Destiny (Ace's Delight Mix)
Nadia Ali - Fine Print (tydi remix)
Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy
astrix - sex style
Excision - Bass Cannon
Bulletproof - place you never forget
1200 Micrograms - Salvia Divinorum
dj shadow - fixed income
John b - freedom failure
goldie - sea of tears
>>64291949
Man i've heard this album for the first time a few days ago and it's one of the best things I ever heard. So original and beautiful and creative. The way he uses samples is simply genius. To me it's like listening to what someone like beethoven or miles davis, people that always pushed forward will make today. It's really of that caliber. And it's really new. There's nothing like it. If there is though i'd love to get that rec.
>>64292339
>accelerator is similar to lifeforms
what
>>64293729
*amen break intensifies*
>>64293729
*strokes neckbeard*
>>64293729
It is one of those albums that seems really fun the first few times you hear it, but sounds less interesting when you start to dig deeper into the genre.
Space Is Only Noise
>>64293826
help me dig deeper. where do I go from here? consider I liked every aspect of the albums. The string samples, the beats, and the dark theme that goes throughout.
>>64293729
>>64293765
>>64293779
i dont know why people meme on the album this hard lol
its just classical samples layered with typical aaron programming, but it's still nice to listen to imo
>>64294089
It's not *just* classical samples. It's the way he uses them and fuses them along with the absolutely insane syncopated beats. This guy's understanding of rhythm is just genius. It's almost Charlie Parker level.
>>64294120
wew
>>64294120
*adjusts monocle*
>>64293071
this
>>64294120
>almost charlie parker level
>>64293218
>>64293345
I love these records
>>64294120
why do you gotta meme so hard on aaron
![liumin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WJXpwyR.jpg "liumin[1].jpg")
>>64293886
Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy is a classic using the same breakcore rhythms but for a jazzier overall album
I have deep feelings towards this album.
>>64294215
Thanks a lot i'll give it a try. Finally someone who's not just memeing.
![Ricardo-Villalobos-Achso[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KLP5lKR.jpg "Ricardo-Villalobos-Achso[1].jpg")
This is the record that got me hooked into bleeps and shit, Achso by Ricardo Villalobos
>>64294120
Not even his best album.
>>64291949
>>64292285
10/10
This is really over looked but I think anyone that's interested in electronic music should listen to it. It's from their period where they switched from industrial to Techno/Acid House which is a period of their music that gets completely overlooked but I think it's just as good as their industrial stuff, if not better in some spots.
>>64291949
Electronic music is a genre, just like guitar music or trumpet music aren't genres. Techno, house, ambient etc are genres.
>>64294276
yeah it's especially difficult to get /bleep/ to talk about music you'll find. I typically love the electronic music Scaruffi rates highly, like >>64293345 >>64293280
>>64294435
Don't get all butthurt about umbrella terms
>>64293513
it's both
>>64294456
I'm actually pretty excited that I discovered it. It's been awhile since a new genre excited me this much. I really wish to make some electronic music because the only way to really make something new today is through computers. But that'll take some time I guess. No pressure though.
>>64294276
>memeing
This is what you get when you yourself sound like a fucking meme retard.
>>64294435
god, I haven't seen this bait in a while.
>>64294582
but they thing is he wasn't simply stating an opinion, he was starting a strawman argument in order to get people to angrily respond to him, that is actual bait.
>>64293729
>>64294215
This weirdy-beardy has done a few genuinely startling tracks, and is generally quite amusing. What galls is the sheer arrogance and temerity of Squarepusher and other similar "drill and bass" dilettantes --they actually believe they are improving on jungle!!! All that Squarepusher has brought to drum & bass is some Jaco Pastorius bass-frills, a dys-funk-tional rhythmic convolution, and a quirked-out daftness that recalls nobody so much as Primus. On a purely technical level, nothing that Squarepusher does with breakbeats surpasses engineer-poets like Hype, Aphrodite, Dillinja, 4 Hero or Danny Breaks, to mention only the most obvious leaders-in-the-field. It is only Squarepusher/Plug etc's distance from the scene that allows them to convolute the breakbeats beyond any use-value to DJ or dancer; the wilful incongruity of the samples is all well and good, but if junglists use the same old gangsta/cyberpunk soundbites and apocalyptic textures, it's because they're trying to create and sustain a vibe, a feeling-full and meaningful mood that crystallises a certain kind of worldview and life-stance. By comparison, drill and bass is vibe-less non-sense. The drill and bass/"fungle" concept seems to exist to make a certain sort of "margin-walker" feel okay about not really having engaged with jungle as a subculture. And of course, as with most soi disant progressive iniatives, drill and bass is utterly parasitic on its populist counterpart--do you really think the idea of chopping up breakbeats would have independently occurred to the weirdy-beardy technoids in a million years?
>>64294642
>>64294120
When drill & bass first reared its head, I was admittedly quite enamored--I really liked the first two Plug EP's and Aphex Twin's "Hangable Auto Bulb" efforts, and was generally enthused by the notion that these artists were freer because they didn't belong to the drum & bass community, didn't have to service DJ's and dancefloor. But Squarepusher was a turning point. Partly because so much of his stuff sounds irritatingly daft to my ears (that said, there were three tracks on Hard Normal Daddy that sounded engagingly strange), but mainly because of the attitude of his supporters--the sheer arrogance of these folks who just assume that Tom Jenkinson's programming is so much more radical than "formula-ridden" junglists. This assumption, I strongly suspect, stems from the fact that they've never actually heard mad-sounding mash-ups like DJ Hype's remix of Remarc's "RIP" or Dillinja's "Warrior". These records are "avant-garde" and fucked-up but still manage to make you dance--to me, a much greater achievement than just freaking out all over the shop. In a lot of Squarepusher-related discourse, the underlying assumption is that if something has no funktional aspect, it's somehow more radical; that this makes it food-for-thought rather than mere dance fodder. Which would seem to replicate the old Cartesian mind/body split, a la prog rock, no?
>>64294666
>>64294678
Another turning point was going to various freestyle/"eclectro"/illbient type clubs in London and New York, where I was struck by the absence of "vibe" compared with more "blinkered", tunnel-vision clubs that cater to very specific tastes (jump up jungle, 'aving it house, gabba, and so forth). Partly the vibe-less thing is down to the absence of drug energy, partly the absence of class-based energy/antagonism. But I also think it stems from the very rhetoric of border-crossing, style-hopping, "united mutations"--which tends to attract a rather uncommitted consumer: the proverbial chin-scratcher/head-nodder/trainspotter. Having been that sort of margin-walker myself for so long, I've kind of gone to the opposite extreme: the belief that the apparent "samey"-ness of jump up jungle or gabba or hard house actually produces something very strong and undeniable: a consistent mood, a highly charged affective atmosphere that truly pulsates with "meaning" (for want of a better word).
>>64294693
>>64294678
Where you fall in terms of allegiances depends a lot on how much you value the concept of "being an individual". Squarepusher's stance depends on maintaining a disdainful distance from the jungle scene while parasitically pirating and caricaturing its ideas (I've read Jenkinson actually talk of his relationship with jungle as similar to the difference between "those who lead and those who follow"--ARSEHOLE!!!). This attitude is reflected in many Pusher-fans reluctance to get involved in club culture, seemingly based on the rather adolescent notion that being an individual means refusing to lose yourself in the crowd. Where you fall in terms of allegiance also depends on what you are fundamentally looking for pop music. If you just want weird noises to play on your stereo at home on your lonesome ownsome, then the margin-walkers artists are the ones you'll go for. But if your fix is that whole subculture-matrix where music is part of "a way of life" (e.g. jungle with the MCing and the pirate radio and the crowd rituals etc.), then ostensibly more formulaic scenes and sounds just seem "stronger".
>>64293729
>>64293886
>>64294120
>>64294215
>>64294276
>>64294528
>>64294642
>>64294666
>>64294678
>>64294693
>>64294721
My ultimate beef with the Squarepusher-type drill & bassologists is that they've decontextualised the music, stripped away all the aspects that give it resonance and affect and subcultural meaning. They've responded to jungle's complexity rather than the feelings it induces and the struggles it embodies. In true prog-rock fashion, they've taken that complexity (the breakbeat science) and turned into a baroque form of virtuosity. It's a typical white bohoprogressivist syndrome, from freeform jazz to prog rock to avant-funk---turning a popular dance music into an unpopular head music. And so those super-accelerated, pitch-shifted, scratchy-rustly-scrapy breakbeats that Squarepusher over-uses work as a trebly timbre element that you listen to, rather than funktional, kinaesthetic beats that work your body. But the real give-away about Squarepusher is what he does with the bass (possibly even more crucial to jungle than breakbeats), i.e. replace the low-end seismology with noodly Jaco Pastorius slap-bass. How anybody who'd ever viscerally experienced jungle sub-bass in its true context (at massive volume through a huge low-end intensive sound-system) could prefer Squarepusher's frilly filigrees of bass-twiddle to the "real thing".... Well, it beats me.
>>64294721
why is simon reynolds such an autist about some things
Gossamer - Automation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKro8txptg
>>64294750
damn this guy is as exclusivist as some of the /bleep/ autists
it's like a pride in bad music or something
>>64294751
Simon Reynolds is also an absolute legend
>>64294751
he's right tho
>>64294825
>>64294808
>>64294751
>>64294838
fuck off and stop responding to the spam, dear christ.
>>64294825
that's why i clarified "about some things"
he's insightful about a lot of things and i respect him, but then he just goes off on these tangents. i find his gripes about fsol to be especially odd and ott.
>>64294854
the "spam" is relevant and interesting, this thread has a lot of worse shit in it
>>64294854
>spam
did you read it you retard?
>>64294873
fuck off with your stupid gripe against squarepusher, it's not worth spamming the oldest copypasta shitpost on the entire board, fuck off
Cabela - Dark Blue (Original Mix)
Sash - Adelante
Solarstone - Seven Cities (Solarstone Pure Mix)
Safri Duo - Played Alive [Original Club Mix]
Ralphie B - Massive
The Morrighan - Remember (Original Mix)
plummet - damaged
zedd - addicted to a memory (nightcore remix)
chemical brothers - star guitar
chemical brothers - under the influence (mix 2)
incubus - calgone (hidden track)
ozric tentacles - aramanu
>>64294911
I love squarepusher and didn't post the "spam"
>>64294884
it's ancient copypasta spam you dumb fuck.
>>64294808
He's shitting on spork-core jungle artists like Squarepusher and Venetian Snares for taking jungle and turning it from a choonz genre into a soulless >muh complexity wankfest genre a-la prog-rock. And frankly he's right.
>>64294932
then why the fuck are you praising it, you fucking shitheaded retard
>>64294911
>>64294933
It's a guy expressing his opinion and stance on a certain maitter. Something which is too much to ask from your usual /mu/tant whose sole justification for his opinion is >muh subjective.
>>64294999
he is just copy and pasting an old article, he isn't stating his own opinion at all, this used to get spammed into everythread mentioning squarpusher to force it into a meme spewing shitfest.
>>64295069
>this used to get spammed into everythread mentioning squarpusher
Wrong, just threads containing the pseudo-intellectual kind of jungle fans like >>64293729 >>64294528.
>>64294968
because it's interesting, relevant and valuable you fucking shitheaded retard
>>64294951
I mean I love prog rock so any argument which uses that as an example is probably not going to resound with me
>>64295109
>pseudo-intellectual kind of jungle fans
jesus christ fuck off and listen to shitty simplistic dance music
electronic music culture is complete utter garbage
>>64294951
The majority of his rant has to do with the attitude of SP/drill n bass's fans as opposed to actual music, which makes it read as weirdly bitter. I agree with some of his criticism's about the overly technical qualities (not a big SP fan myself and I despise breakcore) but he mainly seems to take umbrage with others attitudes regarding Drill n Bass vs Jungle.
He's a smart guy, but it could his opinion could have been expressed better imo.
>>64292301
this gave me cancer
>>64294999
>omething which is too much to ask from your usual /mu/tant whose sole justification for his opinion is >muh subjective.
Ironic, since the very base of his arguments is subjective. Jaco Pastorius' "bass twiddle" has way more impact on me than anything that ever could be summoned from a jungle tune through a huge sound-system. Reynolds' prose and erudition doesn't make his argument more relevant than retards on /mu/ and their "it's good because I like it".
/bleep/ need to fuck off
>>64295245
k enjoy your spork-core
>>64295282
k enjoy your meme-y and shallow criticisms
>>64292508
listen to the title track lad
one of his best tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3WdNAbVU44
>>64295245
>Jaco Pastorius' "bass twiddle" has way more impact on me than anything
Yes, and he explains why the "bass twiddle" is bad (or rather, wrong) for jungle music in the same passage of text. Can you yourself explain why you prefer this instead of that?
If you prefer bastardized spork-core jungle to the real thing then hey be my guest, I'm not going to kill you or anything of that kind of sort. Just don't come close near me or my friends, nor even think of citing actual geniuses like Davis or Beethoven in a comparison to Venetian fucking Snares.
>>64295350
Top irony, wew.
>>64295494
Not that anon but why do they even have to be measured against each other if they are meant for certain and different contexts? I mean, he's right in that one of the best things about jungle is the teeth rattling sub-bass that you feel throughout your body - that raw physicality. However you mostly get that feeling by hearing it on a big system, generally in clubs. That's why it makes wonderful club music. But it's harder to get that impact on your headphones or in a home listening setting. So you could argue that the "bass twiddle" works more in that setting (again, I'm personally not a fan of breakcore/drill n bass myself - just playing devil's advocate).
Reynold's main gripe seems to be the decontextualization of jungle - taking the gritty club music attitude out of it and that's a perfectly valid viewpoint, but others might find that decontextualization to be a positive - allowing certain attributes of jungle shine but moving it to a different setting.
>>64295687
stuff like goldie, late 4hero etc is pretty friendly for home listening
>>64295750
Yeah, I agree. Especially the more melodic dnb/jungle like you'd find on Lucky Spin. I guess I was just mostly trying to approach it from a different angle, even if I find stuff like VSnares totally naff lol.
this album is pretty good
>>64293070
muh nigguh, dope album
singles and EPs make more sense imo
i wish more artists would release 2-5 track records once or twice a year.
